r/languagelearning • • 15h ago

Discussion What’s the point of learning grammar well if you can be understood?

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Sorry for the baity title. This isn’t my point but rather a point that someone else raised in a conversation I was having. My acquaintance asked about what’s the point of learning grammar well in another language if you can be understood. That is to say, what is the point of fixing tense errors, structure errors etc, or knowing grammar well in general if the other person can understand you. I disagree personally but I didn’t have any good way to articulate my thoughts, so I was curious what you guys think? Is there a point to knowing grammar well in another language?


r/languagelearning • • 5h ago

Studying Notes After Doing a B2 Exam

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- B2 is way harder than most people think. I know countless people (my past self included) who thought they were B2 because they were comfortable having conversations in their TL. In reality they are B1 or even A2.

From now on I will forever be sceptical on someone's ability if they claim a certain level without having had formal classes or having taken an exam.

- Common language learning advice such as heavy CI, Anki, and regular speaking practice is misleading at worse and limited at best. I spent years using these methods and was at a total plateau without understanding why.

'Passive' CI is one tool, but it must be supplemented with more intensive listening. Understanding ~90% - or the gist- of a conversation almost certainly means you miss important details. Intensive listening works your ability to extract these details.

With Anki, it's one thing forcing yourself to recognise and recall words using SRS, and i think this is good for learning basic vocab (animals, seasons, bodyparts) but once you get to B2, you must be able to understand complex vocab and phrases inside out - including the nuances between them. This is done by researching the word itself and prompting yourself to make useful sentences out of them.

For speaking, unless you're very lucky or have a professional teacher, you will very rarely be corrected when you make mistakes, and much less be shown better alternatives if your speech is understandable but unnatural. In addition, many of your daily conversations won't be at a high enough level to be challenging. Try recording yourself presenting arguments on a complex topic and you will realise how much you still have to learn, not just in more complicated vocab but also in your use of connectors. Show the recording to a professional teacher or even an AI for feedback.


r/languagelearning • • 1h ago

Discussion Have you ever considered vlogging about your learning?

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I’ve been learning Greek since last year and in May got a distinction in A2. I have considered at various points whether I should start a TikTok but have always put it off.

I like the idea of documenting my journey but ethically I wouldn’t be able to do the usual thing where you film random interactions with people, even if the camera was pointed at just my face.

I’m sure there are other ways to run an account, eg to just talk about what I’ve been learning.

Then the other thing I’ve noticed is a lot of language bloggers (generally - not just for Greek) have quite a low level of their TL, I would say most never go above A1. This is partially why I think I’d like to have an account as a more serious learner.

The last thing stopping me is I’d be afraid of it causing me problems at work (eg if I fell behind work and meanwhile they could see me running a TikTok)

Would love to get people’s thoughts on if you’ve ever thought of starting a TikTok and if not, why not.


r/languagelearning • • 5h ago

Egyptian Arabic Sentence Mining Resources / Languages with few videos in general

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Note - I am aware that this subreddit is not for specific languages, but Arabic as a language tree is quite large and I think might be applicable to people studying more than the dialect that I am asking about, as well as those studying languages with few resources in general.

Hello! I was wondering if anyone has found any luck mining for Arabic, with appreciation for Egyptian specific details, but any advice regarding less common languages in general would also be helpful.

There are a few videos on youtube that have egyptian arabic and English subtitles, however these are the minority. What do you all suggest for languages that have extremely limited options?

At best I'll find Arabic videos that have subtitles in English, but no Arabic. Sometimes the other way around. Sometimes they're burned in the video, and sometimes they're not. Either way, incredibly inconsistent. I am about 2 years into Arabic study, so I have a good amount of vocabulary down. Listening is definitely my weakness and I attribute to a lack of enjoyable listening practice experiences.

Any suggestions? Thanks! (TL)

edit - Any suggestions for how to use anki in this progress would be amazing. None of the tools have Arabic options that I know about, and if they do, it's kind of moot without the youtube subs anyways.