Gotta be honest, joseph isn't a very good song. It has good moments and ideas within it like the main riff and the back and forth between corey and ronnie. The song is just too bloated, they tried to fit too many different sounds and styles in without making sure they had solid transitions between them. It's also very overproduced, especially in the 2 breakdowns and the intro. Serj's part definitely could've been done a lot better in the songs mix because he sounds a little out of place. Joseph also suffers from not having a very cohesive structure, which is 1 of the same problems this song shares with Ronald. Ronnie's operatic section wasn't that good either, naturally so because he's a metal vocalist and not a trained/experienced opera singer like Serj is. He really needs to work on not only how he sings operatically before he does it in his music, but also has to work on his voices power for it. Speaking of his voice, that glam metal sorta scream he did in the beginning also needs work. His screams are okay but he can't get low and distorted enough to hold down a breakdown like the one at the end of the song. You can actually hear that on Ronald too, since he pitched his screams down a bit to be able to keep up with Alex Terrible. It really sounds like he only knows how to do basic false chord screams and not any fry screams or tunnel throat screams or hybrid screams. The lyrics are also pretty generic for a song about war and whatnot. Joseph is a 3/10. I think it'd be so much better if it were longer and was less overproduced that way they could try to actually fit decent transitions between each sound/style.

I've been around for a bit ..born in the 80's so was my wife. She was more into the genre than I was. I feel like this dude is Mandela or a plant. I've seen all the good Charlotte and Hollywood undead been a fan but never heard of this nonsense until a month ago. Is there a reason real artists like Tech and Serj worked with him or is he really the second coming of Fred Durst?

Imposible no hacer el chiste con estos tres grandes.. epic moment. Aguante FiR ♥
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXb2PWx63f0

What would you guys think of this?

Am I the only one that thinks it’s hilarious it’s from the overexaggeration thats doing it 😂😂😂 especially Alex Terribles voice as Balrog 😂😂😂

Im a new fan any song recommendations?

Having tested many different EQ settings, monitors (in-ear and speaker), and platforms, I have found a possible intentional (or accidental) sound production anomaly - or what I'm hoping for - character methods. Let me indulge. Hahaha.

When Serj comes in, the mix sounds fine but gradually a defect shows in the sound. It is most noticeable the first time Serj sings "enough for them" especially on the "enough". I'm unsure if it is due to a clash between the acoustic guitar Hz, strings, and Serj's voice, but it distorts to a very noticeable degree.

My fanfiction is that Serj recorded at home on a modest home microphone (since it is present the entire time he sings, but especially during the aforementioned moment hitting the most sound dense part of his vocal crescendo) leading to not only different voice clarity, but possible digital track clarity by the medium in which he recorded and sent the track.

It wouldn't surprise me if it is both, but it sure would make me happy since Serj is a very humble and practical man. It would also show deep respect Ronnie has for Serj to not make him record his part again and leave the imperfection in. It makes the track and Serj's part more raw and real to me.

Anyways, I digress.

Much love. Phenomenal track.

reddit is so strange lol had to redo the post

Look it might not happen, likely, not likely, possible, probable, or doesn't have a chance in hell of happening. I don't know. It would be cool to see Eminem jump on the next FIR track without warning and blow people's minds.

I've been messing around again.

Founds these in the song stems

mine's is popular monster

I’ve seen a lot of people say Serj saved the song or was the highlight, but I honestly feel the opposite.

His vocals suddenly coming in feel really forced to me, and it never gives me that “wow, his voice sounds incredible here” feeling that I assume this section was supposed to create. If I heard this without knowing Serj or SOAD, I don’t think I’d hear his part and think, “damn, this guy sounds amazing.”

Ronnie and Corey are both vocal powerhouses with much fuller, more powerful voices, so I can’t help thinking this section could have hit much harder with either of them. I can only imagine Corey belting out the “for them” part with his signature voice while Ronnie’s harmonies rise behind him. That could’ve been a huge goosebumps moment, and I feel like it was a missed opportunity.

The final “Repeat the cycle / Bless the martyr / Love thy neighbor / Kill your father...” section especially doesn’t work for me. That’s probably the part where I feel the mismatch between Serj’s voice and the song the most.

Just my opinion. I haven’t seen many people talk about Serj’s part this way, so I’m curious if anyone else felt the same.

I've been listening to ice for a a few years now but had a break due to not being into music of that heaviness for a while and I just heard there new songs recently I admit they are maybe better with jacoby and Hollywood undead but fir and ink are so similar, ink is better less ego more music but this collaboration would be epic if Ronnie could keep up, thoughts? Also what a mad split, ink, jacoby, Hollywood undead/ fir, Corey, jelly roll