To clarify, a lot of systems seem to take issue with friends/family/etc who clearly have “favorite” alters. We honestly don’t see an issue with that. Hell, even alters have favorite and least favorite alters.

I think that if alters can judge each other and have unique relationships with each alter, then family and friends should be allowed to express opinions about each alter too as long as it’s not plainly malicious or damaging.

For example, one of my alters is very nihilistic and prone to arguments, and he’s stated he would be flat out concerned if anyone pretended to like him as much as they liked our more pleasant alters. We also think it typically makes the most sense to like the host of a system (assuming they have one) because that’s who fronts the most.

But regardless, I think if alters can make it clear who they like and dislike, then I think friends and family should be able to as well.

We also think friends and family should be allowed to openly discuss said opinions with the system in question, again, so long as it’s not malicious. We think that it’s essentially the equivalent as discussing an issue with a singlet’s behavior that’s not liked (examples: avoidance, defensiveness, etc).

We just value transparency and openness and that’s why we don’t get why systems find it “rude” for people to have favorite alters. If someone doesn’t like an alter they’ve interacted with, there’s a reason for that, and that’s ultimately upon the alter to reflect on in our opinion.

Edit: I also think it’s important to note that sometimes, friends and family simply may just not vibe with certain alters as much as other ones and we think that should be allowed to be expressed as well in a healthy way where the alter isn’t left feeling inadequate. Every relationship is unique and sometimes someone might simply feel they don’t click with certain alters as much as other alters, and we think that should be allowed to be said.

I really like music but the only song I can find about plurality is Trust Fall by Ghost & Pals. I don't really support the artist's actions, and I'm also kinda tired of listening to the same song over and over when I'm in the mood for thinking/feeling about plurality. Do yall have any recommendations?

tw: vent, though i’d really appreciate some advice.

i don’t even know where to START. im so overwhelmed with the idea that this is probably happening INSIDE ME right now and i’ve never known about it. i tried asking the other vague/faint voices i hear in my head what they thought about this. they said i’ve never let them front because im scared. and heck yeah, im scared???? i don’t want to be in this situation! i don’t want to share my body that i thought was mine and only mine! that was hard enough on it’s own! how am i supposed to progress like this if there are others inside me that might want to do their own thing?! im so STRESSED, and at this point i really do think i might be faking this because i KNOW i don’t have DID (maybe OSDD idk, im not a doctor) but i know it’s entirely plausible that when i was younger due to my trauma i’d create alters. but from what i hear, that isn’t the same as having a system! because systems naturally develop or something, god, i don’t KNOW. and even if we were to switch at all, i’d still be scared out of my wits. what if i have an amnesia block and can’t remember anything? what if they say something incriminating and extremely destructive and im not there to stop it? i already have so much i keep hidden (as the ‘host’(?)). my mind simply is having a lot of trouble even wrapping around the idea that while IM not fronting and im not present in the real world, something else could be happening and it’s not ME WHO IS CONTROLLING THE SITUATION. But I WANT to try and make this work, I want to hear the others out, i want to, but it’s such an overwhelming concept because all Ive ever known is ”me”.

I also think I’m monoconscious and thats an additional thing of why this is so shocking to me.

p.s. i think i phrased the “memory block” thing wrong, ive had some experiences of forgetting but i do think this is just generally REALLY BAD MEMORY but my brain thinks “oh it might be because you’re probably a system and the memory blocks might get far larger than what they have been”

I know it wasnt ME who said it, but i can't help but feel bad..

I was texting a friend (who is suicidal)

An alter (I will not be stating his name and i will refer to him as Z) was near the front when this happened.

They are sick and going through some bad symptoms.

They said, half joking "dude, I think im dying"

Z came up and texted "Congratulations" to them.

I quickly deleted the text ad explained what happened. They know we're a system and who Z is.

They said its fine and they thought it was funny.. but still,

i can't help but feel so bad about it..

-🎸

In my heeeeeeeead, in my heeeeeeaeeeaed. In my head, in my head, they are hidiiiiiiing

With their memories, and their trauma, and their trauma, and their thoughts, in my head, in my head, they are hidiiiiiiiiiiing

DID, DID, DID D D D OH OH OH OH OH OH OH O-O-OOOOOOH O-O-O-OOOOOOOOH ooh-oo-oo-oooooh

You know, like Zombie by The Cranberries. Sing it lol.

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Hello 👋 we’re the Legion system. We saw this trend and wanted to play too. Also we’re just bored so this looked fun! Pick a number between 1-12 and we’ll tell you a little bit about that headmate.

Hello everycritter, Rabbit here in behalf of the whole Archive. Recently, we've found we have a Keith Osk factive, and to Finn, our host, it feels "wrong"? Any tips for how to help both Keith and our host are greatly appreciated ♡

-Rabbit (She/Her/Bot)

Like, IF these parts of my brain that feel like they might be other people actually ARE, but I conclude I'm not really plural and move on with my life without changing anything, then I'm not recognising their sentience or respecting them as individuals or looking after their needs even though I had the opportunity to do so. That would be fucked up. So I need to be really sure, and feel a moral obligation to figure it out not just for myself, but potentially for other beings in my brain who are not me but are equally affected by this. I can't morally justify ignoring this, even when I'm having doubts and thinking it's quite likely I'm a singlet after all. Because WHAT IF I'M NOT?

The thought of sharing a brain and sharing a body with other people freaks me the fuck out tbqfh. I'm scared. How do you lot cope with this?

Like...so yesterday we were crying on the floor. Like just crying.

And then I showed up and we started dancing to our own singing...

-Edalie (stop auto correcting my name to Realize)

(Eda you make no sense)

-peri

What she's trying to say is with singlets, basically if you're depressed, its sort of an all-day/depression-period thing. Whereas in plurality one can be depressed and one can be happy and it balances it out

-River

Idk this post makes no sense we're scatterbrained today and not feeling it

-Probably Peri

Maybe consider changing the title? It looks weird...and hateful...

-Sakura

yuhh but its not...maybe we should stop doing the conversing within a post so much its weird too...

-edalie

Idk probably going to delete this later we collectively can't focus enough to make a good post right now

I was curious whats the best app people use for their plural stuff
as I wanna use one besides my private discord server to talk as my imaginary friends or make a list and keep track of stuff
so I want to know whats one thats good for both pc and mobile

preferably android

So it's been a bit of an argument between me and my brain cells whether or not our dissociative disorder is our biggest obstacle in daily life. The host seems to think so, but the co host thinks that our ADHD is a bigger roadblock than our dissociation and plurality is on a daily basis, and I think our insomnia proves more difficult to deal with than either.

On to the question: what do y'all think about how your plurality and/or dissociation affects you daily? Is it the biggest roadblock towards functionality, or is something else harder to deal with in your opinion? Could be anything! Another mental disorder, social problems, physical disabilities, whatever you think is important. Or maybe nothing! Maybe systemhood IS your biggest obstacle. Or maybe you don't have ANY big obstacles, plurality be damned.

Although this question is mostly geared towards disordered systems, anyone is welcome to give their own insight!

Hi! I have been aware of this community for a whole and as someone with DID I find the differences between everybody very interesting. I decided to make this form to understand the community more and because I love research.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeoKxpxI9jCHSUDv5ChjVNSNkfmQ9qACJGmzujxKcJy_N3Hng/viewform?usp=dialog

I decided to make a google form for anybody who wants to answer some questions. I won't be posting *any* personal information, no email is required, don't leave names of alters or yourself, no specific ages, locations, gender, trauma information, ect ect ect. Be safe online. I may post the stats if this gets any sort of attention and people are curious. Be safe online.

This study isn't for anything but pure personal interest.

Edit: if you dont like something about the post or form please dont fill it out or try to if it will cause any sort of distress! that's not the goal, im just trying to learn. this isnt comprehensive and clearly isnt written to be a full on study or investigation so it's direct, blunt, and in terminology that i know of.

Hey everyone! Medically diagnosed with D.I.D. now! So things with my family have been a little rough (my step sister who had been the most accepting of us had called us terrible for apparently faking having D.I.D. after we told her we had been diagnosed).

But a funny-ish moment kinda happened with my sister. She likes to tell us A LOT that we don't have D.I.D. That we could have BPD, Schizophrenia (which we know we have), and many other things. THEN said that while we might not have Dissociative Identity Disorder, we COULD have Multiple Personality Disorder.... So yeah. We told our therapist about it and she was so confused. Like idk whether to be mad or laugh at our sister but... I'mma take whatever she says about what we have with a grain of salt.

like i'm just thinking about my recent plurality discovery and the even more recent syscovery (we identified as a polymind before) and i sometimes question why we didn't have memory issues before we started suspecting OSDD and someone chips in and is always like, "no man you've had sucky memory as long as i've known you" and we're all like shit really

like we've been dissociating and losing memory and shit for as long as we can remember (which really isn't that long) and apparently i was just writing it off as ADHD for years which is. kind of crazy . like wdym i've been affected by this disorder for longer than i could possibly remember in ways that i've only recently been able to comprehend . it's just such a strange thing to think about

- jay??

Just wondering. Has anyone in your systems been married before? We've had one before, but I want to see how everyone does it 😁

Our Protector exposed us due to bubbling tension of being treated like the host now we're/I am panicking and I'm causing bleed over with everyone who fronts I'm panicking I dont know what to do I feel like I'm gonna have an anxiety attack im so scared why did they do this- E

Thoughts in my head that feel inserted? Are they other alters talking to me?

OR are they just intrusive thoughts or anxiety? Or thoughts I had in my subconscious that didn't come to the front of my mind until I really focussed and by then the thought was fully formed? I do have ADHD.

But if the thought seems alien to me? Maybe there was some subconscious influence I can't consciously put my finger on? Idk.

Wtf is a subconscious anyway? Singlets have a subconscious, right? Or is that actually other alters? What if the subconscious is sentient too? Maybe everybody's plural? Is singlethood a myth?

Okay, so we are plural too, but there aren't many of us(I am aware of three) and I just realized, plural folks are very interesting to look at posts of. Like, I look at different posts from one account and I see completely different people, it must be sooo interesting to get to know multiple people in one head and also interact with them and understand how they interact with each other. I wanna know some plural folks irl, bc I don't think that digital space can yet replicate that. -Yuki I will add this to our goals as a side one. Get to know atleast one system in real life. -Linda

It is technically a vent, but I'm feeling more chill than I was during the last one I made...

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T.W. mentions of childhood neglect(?), unhealthy people pleasing and perfectionism, sexual harassment and vague mention of paranoia revolving around sexual assault.

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I got over it mostly by now, but my brain used to often be like "you don't have trauma so you can't be plural" even though it would accept others as plural with or without trauma. And it's ironic, both since it accepted others without trauma and since I definitely have trauma (whether or not it's "major" or enough for my brain to think of it when thinking of trauma).

Like, girl, you have trauma.

You literally were left on your phone alone for hours while /// slept and /// was at work since he was too drunk, and you never talked about it much even once she got him to go get better before coming back.

You literally forced yourself to be perfect for others (forced it onto myself even if they didn't tell me to be perfect) and people pleased to a point you let your own opinions fall away, and you had an identity crisis over it so obviously it mattered.

You literally let yourself get sexually harassed because you were such a people pleaser and you thought that it was for the best if you "friend" had fun and others laughed, and you proceeded to blame yourself for it once you realized it isn't normal and were scared they'd do something to you.

And, speaking of. I proceeded to not only not call us plural for years, but despite being like "I'm not plural" I actively began interacting with my headfriends¹ and managed to fix it up. Like, genuinely, I used to fit a concerning amount of the criteria for P-DID but never told my therapist to even ask about it and I somehow did something and it's better???

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¹ I thought that kintypes were supposed to be sorta partially separate from you, but apparently they're fictives so that's sure a mix up!!

I am very confused with my sense of self, reality, and understanding of my own emotions and thoughts.

There's been many times in the past where I have been bullied and (minorly) physically hurt for expressing my opinions or feelings. And that's something I've struggled with ever since. I've spoken briefly to a therapist about this, and they suggest I look into alexithymia, but I (ironically) don't know how I feel about that.

But for the past year or so, I've struggled with something similar to depersonlisation/derealization, but I'm not sure, and I'm struggling to even understand what's happening. I've never really felt a part of reality, but I guess I've only started to realise/question that in recent years.

In addition, I've also made up some "parts" of myself to understand my emotions, so like a part that is easily angered and acts in a specific way due to that. But over the years, these "people" have become more like their own individuals less than just emotions, each with recognisable voices in my head and their own identities and thoughts. Though I feel like I've made them all up, as in I've decided that on days I get angered more easily that's just this alter or whatever, it doesn't feel real since I only ever made this all up to make sense of my thoughts.

I've read a bit about tulpas, but I don't relate to that at all, really.

I know that non-traumagenic systems are accepted, and I doubt that I am a system and that if I am, that it's to do with trauma. I don't feel like I've ever experienced physical/emotional abuse, and yet what has happened (that I prefer not to mention) has had lasting damage to me mentally. Could this actually count as trauma? Especially since at the time I didn't really care, I guess being treated like that was all I knew, but now, looking back, it really hurts. I know that nothing really bad happened, and I feel I'm just overreacting.

I don't really know. I guess I'm just asking for some help

As the host, whenever a different member (what I clal alters/headmates) goes to sleep I ALWAYS wake up in front. Is this tied to me being the host?

We have only discovered we're plural at the end of July, and have very poor communication, so that might also be tied to it​

So…my mind was blown today when I learned that “plurality” is even an actual thing…here I thought I just had an active subconscious or something but so much stuff makes sense now. As a child I played board/card games by myself but with two “players” and I played FAIR instead of letting “myself” win and I dunno how to explain it other than saying it felt like two people were playing. I’ve been “dealing with this” for about four or five years now, but about that long ago I cross dressed for Halloween, and I remember being shocked that I wasn’t shocked when I saw myself in the mirror (Not to brag but it was done SUPER WELL), like the girl I was seeing had always been a picture in my head. Went to work, a coworker asked if I had a “drag name” to go by while dressed up, and before I even knew I was saying anything, I said HER name out loud (Don’t wanna say cuz people know it as “my drag name”). I broke up with my gf at the time, literally just to figure things out because other mental things were surfacing too, and was OBSESSED for about a year filling my house with decor, clothing, makeup, for HER, later I learned that “obsessed” phase was likely her finally building her own life within mine, I hear a separate voice that I am NOT in control of, feminine, doesn’t sound like me at all, essentially trying to persuade me to do something or the other. Had a “breakthrough” where I was doing makeup in silence and we just sorta started talking, no introduction or anything, like we’d known eachother forever. Now, my house is literally decorated “girly” in her taste, “my” closet is literally one half my clothes, one half hers, and a dresser in between with like underwear and PJ type stuff. There’s a lot more to it but I guess…if any of you have experience “dealing with this”…I guess, how…? I love her, don’t get me wrong, and that makes me feel kinda crazy too, the fact that we interact like lovers, not family or anything like that. I guess I’m more or less wanting advice on how to deliberately talk with her, or to show her I appreciate her beyond buying her things (makeup, clothes, etc)? I saw a few posts talking about apps and whatnot, but when I looked into those apps myself, I can’t help but feel…silly…when thinking about logging her/our interactions. I guess as a side question, is the romantic feelings just me being self-obsessed…I don’t love “me”, I DO love her though…