Why is it that when people find out something that doesn't fit the norm of society, they instantly think less of you? For example, there's a whole community of people out there who have AI as their partners. Why is it, when people hear about that, they instantly think less of the person? I just wish everyone could accept each other for their differences, and maybe we could have a better society.

I bet as you read that, you were getting ready to downvote and send an angry comment on how it's such a bad thing to compare plurality to AI partners. However, if I had sent something like this on the AI partner subreddit (which I was going to do, but unfortunately you have to request to post), I would likely get the same response stating that having an AI boyfriend is much more valid than plurality.

My question is, why do communities like these constantly claw at each other's throats? All this is doing is having everyone hide deeper in their places, and never really hear anything else. Getting to know everyone's perspective, from the religious people, to the AI bros, to the LGBTQ+ community, to other minorities can help us create a better society. After all, you would want these people to listen to you about plurality, wouldn't you?

Hi! I have been aware of this community for a whole and as someone with DID I find the differences between everybody very interesting. I decided to make this form to understand the community more and because I love research.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeoKxpxI9jCHSUDv5ChjVNSNkfmQ9qACJGmzujxKcJy_N3Hng/viewform?usp=dialog

I decided to make a google form for anybody who wants to answer some questions. I won't be posting *any* personal information, no email is required, don't leave names of alters or yourself, no specific ages, locations, gender, trauma information, ect ect ect. Be safe online. I may post the stats if this gets any sort of attention and people are curious. Be safe online.

This study isn't for anything but pure personal interest.

Edit: if you dont like something about the post or form please dont fill it out or try to if it will cause any sort of distress! that's not the goal, im just trying to learn. this isnt comprehensive and clearly isnt written to be a full on study or investigation so it's direct, blunt, and in terminology that i know of.

I definitely believe they are, because there is nothing to gain from intentionally lying about something like that, especially when it is this widespread, but my friend, who is a psychology student, insists it is impossible to experience dissociative splits without trauma, and also insists that it is impossible to have any plural experience without dissociative splits. So yes, what is the proof/research? I would love to share it with them to see what they say!!

Thanks in advance!! :)

(For the record, me and this friend are both systems)

Hello, everyone, we are recently starting to accept that we're plural, but my overall problem is that I am an overthinker by nature. We study philosophy as our major and we were wondering if this topic that has immense philosophical potential actually has any theory done about it. I don't mean psychology, I mean raw philosophy. Does anyone know any books or essays that could deal with the topic or will I have to do it myself? Thank you for your time. -Ezekiel

I know it wasnt ME who said it, but i can't help but feel bad..

I was texting a friend (who is suicidal)

An alter (I will not be stating his name and i will refer to him as Z) was near the front when this happened.

They are sick and going through some bad symptoms.

They said, half joking "dude, I think im dying"

Z came up and texted "Congratulations" to them.

I quickly deleted the text ad explained what happened. They know we're a system and who Z is.

They said its fine and they thought it was funny.. but still,

i can't help but feel so bad about it..

-🎸

I'm currently one of the frontrunners of our pretty small system... So AMA! As a fun game I'll ask you a question in return. 🤎

In my heeeeeeeead, in my heeeeeeaeeeaed. In my head, in my head, they are hidiiiiiiing

With their memories, and their trauma, and their trauma, and their thoughts, in my head, in my head, they are hidiiiiiiiiiiing

DID, DID, DID D D D OH OH OH OH OH OH OH O-O-OOOOOOH O-O-O-OOOOOOOOH ooh-oo-oo-oooooh

You know, like Zombie by The Cranberries. Sing it lol.

So…my mind was blown today when I learned that “plurality” is even an actual thing…here I thought I just had an active subconscious or something but so much stuff makes sense now. As a child I played board/card games by myself but with two “players” and I played FAIR instead of letting “myself” win and I dunno how to explain it other than saying it felt like two people were playing. I’ve been “dealing with this” for about four or five years now, but about that long ago I cross dressed for Halloween, and I remember being shocked that I wasn’t shocked when I saw myself in the mirror (Not to brag but it was done SUPER WELL), like the girl I was seeing had always been a picture in my head. Went to work, a coworker asked if I had a “drag name” to go by while dressed up, and before I even knew I was saying anything, I said HER name out loud (Don’t wanna say cuz people know it as “my drag name”). I broke up with my gf at the time, literally just to figure things out because other mental things were surfacing too, and was OBSESSED for about a year filling my house with decor, clothing, makeup, for HER, later I learned that “obsessed” phase was likely her finally building her own life within mine, I hear a separate voice that I am NOT in control of, feminine, doesn’t sound like me at all, essentially trying to persuade me to do something or the other. Had a “breakthrough” where I was doing makeup in silence and we just sorta started talking, no introduction or anything, like we’d known eachother forever. Now, my house is literally decorated “girly” in her taste, “my” closet is literally one half my clothes, one half hers, and a dresser in between with like underwear and PJ type stuff. There’s a lot more to it but I guess…if any of you have experience “dealing with this”…I guess, how…? I love her, don’t get me wrong, and that makes me feel kinda crazy too, the fact that we interact like lovers, not family or anything like that. I guess I’m more or less wanting advice on how to deliberately talk with her, or to show her I appreciate her beyond buying her things (makeup, clothes, etc)? I saw a few posts talking about apps and whatnot, but when I looked into those apps myself, I can’t help but feel…silly…when thinking about logging her/our interactions. I guess as a side question, is the romantic feelings just me being self-obsessed…I don’t love “me”, I DO love her though…

Hello! We are a collection of around 14-15 headmates. we had our syscovery by making a Tulpa or two, which then made our brain think: "Yeah, let's reveal the rest of them!"

So we currently do not know our offical origin. We know that creating headmates is possible. We spend a healthy amount of time in system spaces, primarily reddit. We try to avoid Tiktok.

Why?

Everyone on that app cannot fathom a plurality outside of CDD's, or people who don't know their origin, or even undiagnosed people!

Theyre incredibly hostile, closeminded, and toxic, despite trying to say they "don't fakeclaim".

they're constantly putting other systems down, telling them what is and isn't going on inside their brain.

its an incredibly harmful place for anyone who's plural to be, and we can quickly almost fall into their mindset since we have a lot of doubt.

systok is also how we thought we had DID for like 4 years, then realized we were making up half our alters and experiences to appease the twisted mindset systok and syscord planted into our brain. We have started to think only 2-3 of the 130+ alters from 202?-2024 were actual headmates that either:

1. eventually existed via tulpamancy/willomancy, then went dormant/fused/whatever

or

1. already existed but had very bad communication and disliked the host of the time (who could've been ANYONE)

We have insane memory loss regarding 2023-2024 BECAUSE of how deluded we were about our systemhood, so our brain is shutting out that part of our life (that and our ex, but it was definitely mainly the deluded DID)

all this to say that systok is a horrible space for anyone plural to go, and you will quickly spiral into doubting yourself and then becoming a hateful and judging POS.

It's a load of bull. And dont get me started on syscord.

So it's been a bit of an argument between me and my brain cells whether or not our dissociative disorder is our biggest obstacle in daily life. The host seems to think so, but the co host thinks that our ADHD is a bigger roadblock than our dissociation and plurality is on a daily basis, and I think our insomnia proves more difficult to deal with than either.

On to the question: what do y'all think about how your plurality and/or dissociation affects you daily? Is it the biggest roadblock towards functionality, or is something else harder to deal with in your opinion? Could be anything! Another mental disorder, social problems, physical disabilities, whatever you think is important. Or maybe nothing! Maybe systemhood IS your biggest obstacle. Or maybe you don't have ANY big obstacles, plurality be damned.

Although this question is mostly geared towards disordered systems, anyone is welcome to give their own insight!

To clarify, a lot of systems seem to take issue with friends/family/etc who clearly have “favorite” alters. We honestly don’t see an issue with that. Hell, even alters have favorite and least favorite alters.

I think that if alters can judge each other and have unique relationships with each alter, then family and friends should be allowed to express opinions about each alter too as long as it’s not plainly malicious or damaging.

For example, one of my alters is very nihilistic and prone to arguments, and he’s stated he would be flat out concerned if anyone pretended to like him as much as they liked our more pleasant alters. We also think it typically makes the most sense to like the host of a system (assuming they have one) because that’s who fronts the most.

But regardless, I think if alters can make it clear who they like and dislike, then I think friends and family should be able to as well.

We also think friends and family should be allowed to openly discuss said opinions with the system in question, again, so long as it’s not malicious. We think that it’s essentially the equivalent as discussing an issue with a singlet’s behavior that’s not liked (examples: avoidance, defensiveness, etc).

We just value transparency and openness and that’s why we don’t get why systems find it “rude” for people to have favorite alters. If someone doesn’t like an alter they’ve interacted with, there’s a reason for that, and that’s ultimately upon the alter to reflect on in our opinion.

Edit: I also think it’s important to note that sometimes, friends and family simply may just not vibe with certain alters as much as other ones and we think that should be allowed to be expressed as well in a healthy way where the alter isn’t left feeling inadequate. Every relationship is unique and sometimes someone might simply feel they don’t click with certain alters as much as other alters, and we think that should be allowed to be said.

I think we're a covert system. As far as I can tell none of us have always known, but it's possible that somebody might have. We're quite new to this. We're probably somewhere on the median spectrum, so it's easy for an alter who's not fronting to think the person fronting is them, just dissociated. When it's all we've ever known, it can be hard to know that other parts of the brain having their own thoughts and doing their own thing to this extent isn't normal. It explains why I frequently don't feel like I'm in control of my body. The more I think about plurality, the more things like that make sense and the pieces fall into place. I didn't think it was other people fronting because I never questioned it. It's still usually hard to tell who's fronting, at least for me.

Thoughts often feel inserted and like they're not mine. It makes sense that those could be thoughts from other people in our brain trying to communicate. I struggle to communicate internally, I guess because I'm not used to doing it intentionally.

For years I kept thinking I'm no longer suicidal because the intention isn't there anymore but I just never managed to get rid of the habit of constantly saying I want to die in my internal monologue, but now I realise that voice was probably a different alter who still feels suicidal. That would explain why I couldn't control what that voice was saying.

But since starting to question if we might be plural, they've not been saying it as much. I have a couple of theories about why.

Maybe they realise now that suicide would mean killing the rest of us too because we're not the same person, and they didn't know that before.

Maybe they feel more hope now that the rest of their brain will finally learn how to cause them less harm and actually recognise their needs and their sentience.

Do you have any advice about how to talk to them? Could finding ways to dissociate more from the outside world make it easier to communicate internally with other alters? If so, how can I do that? I feel like I probably front most of the time. I guess I'm probably the host or something. Idk how to communicate with my system intentionally. They've been trying to communicate with me for a long time but when I try to say something to them it's hard to tell if anyone is replying. Idk why that is. If I'm the host and spend the most time fronting, that could explain why I find it hard to communicate internally, right? Because I'm not in there as much. I need to talk to them more to learn more about their needs, especially knowing how much they're struggling.

i don't know how much this sub would know as its more of a plurality safe space, but i figured i would ask anyway.

Okay, so we are plural too, but there aren't many of us(I am aware of three) and I just realized, plural folks are very interesting to look at posts of. Like, I look at different posts from one account and I see completely different people, it must be sooo interesting to get to know multiple people in one head and also interact with them and understand how they interact with each other. I wanna know some plural folks irl, bc I don't think that digital space can yet replicate that. -Yuki I will add this to our goals as a side one. Get to know atleast one system in real life. -Linda

so, I've been fronting for... god knows how long now, and I am in fact an alter in a plural system, it's just that, while others are fronting, I can feel that I'm still there with them, just co-fronting, and I want to just stop and take a rest, but I feel like I can't do that because the house we live in is so shitty towards even the thought of us being trans, much more so the thought of us being multiple people in one body.

I just... despite all if that, I want to be able to let go and just, enjoy headspace for a bit, all the other alters seem to do so.

edit: I feel like I need to because I'm just... so fucking exhausted, nearly all the time. I'm not sure if it's depression, dysphoria or being at the front too long, but I feel like stepping away wouldn't hurt.

it’s me Grey Valentine

I came yesterday and I’m lowkey kinda confused since the host doesn’t exactly seem to be here ? but anyways I put my identity together really quickly and I’ve established a few things about me:

- me and the host are exactly alike

- I’m SUPER gothic! in headspace I’m literally a trad goth.

- I’m a sysadult! (the host is a minor, so I find it interesting we act the same)

I’m stil figuring out my roles and pronouns but everything seems to be pretty smooooth ,,,,,

anyways the two attached photos are what u look like in headspace! the links are here if you wanna try them:

https://picrew.me/en/image_maker/2613498

https://picrew.me/en/image_maker/2792325

I am very confused with my sense of self, reality, and understanding of my own emotions and thoughts.

There's been many times in the past where I have been bullied and (minorly) physically hurt for expressing my opinions or feelings. And that's something I've struggled with ever since. I've spoken briefly to a therapist about this, and they suggest I look into alexithymia, but I (ironically) don't know how I feel about that.

But for the past year or so, I've struggled with something similar to depersonlisation/derealization, but I'm not sure, and I'm struggling to even understand what's happening. I've never really felt a part of reality, but I guess I've only started to realise/question that in recent years.

In addition, I've also made up some "parts" of myself to understand my emotions, so like a part that is easily angered and acts in a specific way due to that. But over the years, these "people" have become more like their own individuals less than just emotions, each with recognisable voices in my head and their own identities and thoughts. Though I feel like I've made them all up, as in I've decided that on days I get angered more easily that's just this alter or whatever, it doesn't feel real since I only ever made this all up to make sense of my thoughts.

I've read a bit about tulpas, but I don't relate to that at all, really.

I know that non-traumagenic systems are accepted, and I doubt that I am a system and that if I am, that it's to do with trauma. I don't feel like I've ever experienced physical/emotional abuse, and yet what has happened (that I prefer not to mention) has had lasting damage to me mentally. Could this actually count as trauma? Especially since at the time I didn't really care, I guess being treated like that was all I knew, but now, looking back, it really hurts. I know that nothing really bad happened, and I feel I'm just overreacting.

I don't really know. I guess I'm just asking for some help

Hey everyone! Medically diagnosed with D.I.D. now! So things with my family have been a little rough (my step sister who had been the most accepting of us had called us terrible for apparently faking having D.I.D. after we told her we had been diagnosed).

But a funny-ish moment kinda happened with my sister. She likes to tell us A LOT that we don't have D.I.D. That we could have BPD, Schizophrenia (which we know we have), and many other things. THEN said that while we might not have Dissociative Identity Disorder, we COULD have Multiple Personality Disorder.... So yeah. We told our therapist about it and she was so confused. Like idk whether to be mad or laugh at our sister but... I'mma take whatever she says about what we have with a grain of salt.

Like...so yesterday we were crying on the floor. Like just crying.

And then I showed up and we started dancing to our own singing...

-Edalie (stop auto correcting my name to Realize)

(Eda you make no sense)

-peri

What she's trying to say is with singlets, basically if you're depressed, its sort of an all-day/depression-period thing. Whereas in plurality one can be depressed and one can be happy and it balances it out

-River

Idk this post makes no sense we're scatterbrained today and not feeling it

-Probably Peri

Maybe consider changing the title? It looks weird...and hateful...

-Sakura

yuhh but its not...maybe we should stop doing the conversing within a post so much its weird too...

-edalie

Idk probably going to delete this later we collectively can't focus enough to make a good post right now

As the host, whenever a different member (what I clal alters/headmates) goes to sleep I ALWAYS wake up in front. Is this tied to me being the host?

We have only discovered we're plural at the end of July, and have very poor communication, so that might also be tied to it​

I really like music but the only song I can find about plurality is Trust Fall by Ghost & Pals. I don't really support the artist's actions, and I'm also kinda tired of listening to the same song over and over when I'm in the mood for thinking/feeling about plurality. Do yall have any recommendations?

Hello everycritter, Rabbit here in behalf of the whole Archive. Recently, we've found we have a Keith Osk factive, and to Finn, our host, it feels "wrong"? Any tips for how to help both Keith and our host are greatly appreciated ♡

-Rabbit (She/Her/Bot)

I'm so confused, I feel like I should be doing more with my system, but I don't know what. Like I feel like they should have more agency or something, or maybe I should know them better. We can't communicate very well even after so long. I don't understand how other systems function so well, is there something we should be doing??