This is all coming from a theatre kid. I love musicals. But I don't love this one. It's not cute to make a comedy/parody musical of a show that was very real for the children involved, that left them traumatized and a majority of the cast in therapy.

I don't think it's hypocritical to consume a show and still find it weird and kind of gross to make a comedy stage production about real people that are still dealing with the repercussions of being on the show.

Maybe I'm just a buzzkill, but making a parody out of an experience that left people with lifelong trauma that they are still sorting out isn't funny to me. It's just kind of weird.

I understand it's not putting money into the hands of the production company of dance moms, but neither am I. I do not support the show monetarily whatsoever. I just feel like there is a massive difference between enjoying a show and making a comedy out of it.

I haven't seen any of the cast discuss it, but I am honestly extremely curious to know their thoughts.

It seems like there’s been beef can someone explain

I feel like Cathy’s dances shouldn’t have even really counted. I don’t know how it works with these dance competitions but Abby feeling threatened over dances that were choreographed by other choreographer’s and weren’t her own dances doesn’t really seem like an even playing field. I get not wanting to lose to them because Cathy was annoying but I’d be like you didn’t win, the guest choreographer of the week did lol Abby’s dances, while seeming repetitive at times were created by her so I think that’s more noble regardless of who wins.

i might’ve missed this somewhere, but Christi and Kelly mentioned the other cities they’re going to on the tour (St. Louis, Atlanta I think?, and others) but I cannot find the tickets for those? Is that correct?
i feel like they’d have them on sale since they’re sooner than the NOLA date, but maybe i missed them somewhere? I don’t see them on instagram or their website. Anyone know when they might go on sale? Or if Christi or Kelly said something about it? Or if they’re cancelled LOL. TIA!!!

I’ve been plowing through, and I’m on season 4. I don’t disagree at all that ALM is a terrible person. I wince every time I hear her raised voice. I also understand there are not only contracts with the show but also between her and the parents about remaining on the team if they win a title.

However, how many of you feel like the mothers are also not without fault for their daughters’ abuse? Those girls are terrified.

"Kalani regressed the longer she was with ALDC," "Chloe regressed during her break," "Brooke regressed once the show started" etc.

First of all...ANY of the extremely elite, nationally ranked dancers who showed up on Dance Moms—Kalani, Brynn, Sophia, Elliana etc.—were going to "regress" if they reduced their training hours at all to pursue professional work (and I consider being on a Lifetime reality TV show to be professional work). They knew that, their moms knew that, their coaches knew that. Training at an elite enough level to be winning TDA is not sustainable for any child for more than a few years. It's necessary that they eventually step down from that level of training to pursue the next step in their career or just become a more well rounded teenager.

I'm not glazing Abby or saying that leaving elite studios to come to ALDC was the right move. I'm just saying that "regression" should be the least of your concern because it's literally inevitable for anyone who is one of the best dancers in the world. Nobody expected in a million years that Brynn would go on Dance Moms and improve her technique. That wasn't the intent. She did it because she was at the top of her dance game and her mom's next goal was to expand her professional opportunities, knowing that dancers who work professionally are all going to "regress" from the technique that won them elite national titles.

Every single person on Dance Moms after the OGs was there because they were seeking professional work, not because they wanted to be a great technical dancer. There's a level of technique that's simply not required or even helpful to work professionally. Brynn and Kalani were undeniably better dancers than Maddie or Chloe. They'd beat them in any fair competition. But all of them had good enough technique to work professionally, and if Brynn and Kalani were hard at work in the studio improving their releve while Maddie and Chloe were at auditions or filming music videos, then it's Maddie and Chloe who were becoming successful professionals despite "regressing." It was intentional.

Again, I'm not trying to glaze Maddie and Chloe in particular, I'm just saying that Kalani and Brynn knew they were going to regress, because at their level, regressing in technique is basically a mandatory trade off for advancing their careers.

End rant.

Stacey dead ass made me laugh lmfao

i noticed that maddie liked almost every single post on her make up artist's instagram except for post that shows maddie dancing for sia, i do think zieglers have always been PR trained, especially maddie, and i think she noticed people talking about her relationship with sia and hopefully, she realized how toxic it was, she always had a lot of weirdos in her life obssesed with her...

Knowing that Abby’s breakdown in early Season 6 was about Center Stage changes these episodes entirely. We all feel like it’s because of her Legal issues and this makes it so much worse. Now granted, I think her legal troubles looming probably did impact it but it was a contributing factor not the main concern.

I could be wrong but I’m guessing that Abby was terrified of Chloe becoming truly famous. Thinking that she was going to go to prison and fade away into obscurity. We’ve always known that she was evil and vindictive but this is horrific. Trying to leverage her spot with Lifetime to STILL screw Chloe over is next level batshit crazy. And the fact that the moms knew what was going on probably made them really question their place more than before. On one hand, they wouldn’t have wanted to get on her bad side, knowing the lengths she would go to mess with a kid. But on the other hand, Chloe was thriving and Abby even with the full weight of her evilness, wasn’t able to stop it.

But Payton in the dance moms universe went and audition for candy apple in early part of the series but later on I vividly remember Leslie asking about Cathy and Jill chiming and saying that Leslie will be the goon and fight for them? Did anyone else catch that?

I’m thinking Natalie Wood. Or Rita Hayworth since Kenzie tended to play redheads a lot.
By the way, why wasn’t she in it?

- As a kid I saw a few episodes on YouTube for dance moms and actually enjoyed it a bit

- Never knew Kathy was a mom & always saw her as the “antagonist” or whatever of the show.

i'm watching AUDC for the first time and MY GOD....these moms are so insane and toxic TO THEIR OWN KIDS.

it's genuinely insane to watch these mothers be so horrible to not just other children and mothers, but to their own child. i can see why the show didn't get renewed. wow and yikes.