Seriously more drama than you could shake a stick at. Glamour, opulence, royalty, a mad monk and murder. This would be devoured as a high stakes TV drama series

Just finished season 2 of The Gentlemen and honestly, I really enjoyed it. One of the best series I’ve watched recently, and that last episode stayed with me.

In that final scene, I was convinced Eddie was going to kill Freddy. When he forced him to kill Gospel John instead, I had to sit with that for a bit. He lets his brother live, but makes him face what he’s helped bring about. I found that much more impactful than the ending I was expecting.

Thinking back to Eddie at the beginning of season 1, trying to protect his family and sort out the situation he’d inherited, it’s quite something to see who he becomes. By the end of this season, he’s capable of things I wouldn’t have expected from him when the series started.

Something that came to mind during those scenes was the Mahabharata. Arjuna struggles with going into battle against his own relatives, and Krishna guides him towards fulfilling his duty despite those attachments. Eddie’s situation is very different, but it reminded me of that conflict when family is involved and someone has to decide what they believe needs to be done. That was the connection I personally felt while watching.

The biblical references to Jacob and Esau also made the brothers’ story more interesting to me, especially around inheritance and resentment. I wasn’t expecting to be thinking about all this while watching The Gentlemen, but it made me appreciate the series even more.

How did everyone else feel about The Gentlemen Season2?

I Am Not Okay with This deserves a second season on Netflix. The show had so much potential, with its unique story, dark atmosphere, amazing characters, and unresolved cliffhanger. It ended just when things were getting interesting, leaving fans without the answers they deserve. We need to make our voices heard and show Netflix that people still care about this series. If you miss Sydney, Stanley, and the world of this show, rewatch it, talk about it, and spread the word. Let's bring this series back! Use #RenewIamNotOkayWithThis and make some noise! 🌹😩

It was the moment she arrived back at the manor without blonde hair, and her boyfriend does not say a word about it. That was the peak reveal of her insanity, because it meant she had believed her hair to be blonde, she had made it up in her head and we all went along with it because we were seeing things through the eyes of a mad Marcella.

SPOILER

I stopped watching immediately after the scientist didn’t show the video evidence at the town hall meeting.

Is there a good reason for this that is explained later on? Please avoid additional spoilers.

I can’t think of one and will not continue watching unless someone convinces me otherwise. One of the more frustrating TV moments in recent memory for me.

So, I know there's a DRM on Netflix's screen when you try to SS and it all turns black.

I actually found a quite simple way without any plugins and turning off browser functions and such.

Go to Google chrome and play the movie/TV show you want to take SS of on Netflix. Pause it on the frame you want to save. Right click -> search with Google lens. So now you should be able to select the screen you want to search with Google lens (a.k.a. the scene). And when you select it, just choose "AI mode" and there should be the picture of the frame/scene, and you can download it.

I'm only mentioning Chrome because it worked for me there.

Cheers.

Edit: DRM protection

Rich old man producing a television show for nearly 50 years didn’t seem like it would be that interesting but I really liked it!

One quote had struck me that made the whole doc for me.

He said “It occurs to me that when you get older you yearn for the landscape of your childhood”. It really struck me in so many ways as I regularly look for the landscape of my childhood. It doesn’t always me me feel better but it is grounding in a way that only i can feel.
I’ve noticed so many people doing this or going back to there hometown and the landscape has changed so much it’s unrecognizable but still wanting to stay.

I doubt this was the documentary’s goal as he really did seem unhappy when he was in Maine. I also really like how he seemed to bring the people together in a unsterile way during the writing process.

Something that I’m sure we are in the last days of with AI and censorship among leaders or influencers of the future.

After the layoffs and the departure of Bela Bajaria (Which was a big surprise to me), do you think there will be a change of direction in terms of the content they content?

Honestly, I totally understand why there is a drop in engagement for returning shows. There are just way too many shows for us to follow these days. Currently, I am watching SCTV, Cobra Kai, 30 Rock and 3 anime series and I am not even halfway through them.

Netflix means a great deal to me. Most of my daily movie watching comes from it and Prime Video. Netflix introduced all the Studio Ghibli films to me and I will always be grateful for them for that.

So, I am rooting for Netflix to do better for us in the days ahead. With Peter Rice coming aboard, do you think we'll get more Netflix theatrical releases and more innovative shows?

Just like to get your thoughts.

It's funny. This is a dark series hiding behind American banality. A brain surgeon flees from memories of his wife to open a free clinic and proves to be incompetent. The local head case latches onto the doctor's son, screws with his emotions, and toodles off when her abusive boyfriend comes out of a coma. Elementary students run a sex club, the teens have STDs, and a husband cheats on his wife with another man. It's full of dark Easter eggs

I’m sorry but how does someone kill 4 people and there’s no dna in the car ??

How does a friend hear her friend scream, hear a man speak, see a man pass her door but go back to sleep and ring cops 8 hours later and also

Who was the girl in the bathroom ? Crying if she locked herself in how was Xana and her bf found in the bedroom and the 2 girls found upstairs.. so who was in the bathroom

But at the beginning of episode 3, that scene at the meeting, where the expert and the protagonist want to convince everyone that there's a monster in the water, there's a television in that place AND THEY DON'T SHOW THE VIDEO! I was like, "WHY DON'T THEY SHOW IT?"

Found this on a local Facebook page

Idk what happened to Netflix. At one point its quality of movies so so top S tier. Now, it’s as if they don’t care and it’s all about quantity and money. This movie sucked so bad. Acting was bad, plot was very meh, and so was ending smh.

I want my two hrs back

Member since 2017 with my own plan. For many years Netflix was the most watched streaming service for me (of course early days it pretty much won by default), but I noticed that I rarely turn to it anymore. There's the occasional Netflix movie I watch but a lot of the new content is just mediocre or downright bad. I've mostly kept it around out of habit but watching something once a month (if even that) doesn't justify the monthly cost. At first I thought that I've probably watched all the best stuff over the years and now there's not much in it for me anymore. However, I've found other streaming services to be pushing a lot of quality content out that I like so I think the service has definitely gotten worse. Perhaps others are finding it okay still but for me it isn't even in my top 3 anymore. I don't know if there was a point to all this but I just thought that after all these years I'd stop by and say thanks and farewell. Where does Netflix rank for you nowadays?

Ich bin noch nicht lange bei Netflix Kunde. The Spy und mindHunter war super. Aber ich suche seit Tagen neue Optionen - es gefällt mir nichts. Scheins kriegen die nichts spannendes mehr hin, stimmt ihr zu?

Did anyone else finish Below wondering what the hell they just watched? 🤣

It started with a genuinely creepy mystery and somehow ended with everyone saving a misunderstood mother squid and her babies from greedy rich people.

It's like the writers combined THREE completely different shows.

ACT 1: Psychological Thriller

People are getting sick, experiencing extreme thirst, behaving bizarrely, and walking into the ocean to die. Mysterious creature. Unexplained deaths. I'm HOOKED!

ACT 2: WTF Island Cult?!

Suddenly there's Wade, Maggie, the Sea Hag, creepy islanders worshipping Mudder, drugs labelled "Mother," and mysterious fish offerings.

WHY?! Is Mudder controlling them? Communicating with them? Are the drugs connected to her mucus?

We're clearly building toward some huge revelation, right?

NOPE. Absolutely nothing. 🤦‍♀️

You could eliminate this ENTIRE subplot and the story would probably make MORE sense.

ACT 3: Free Willy: Arctic Edition

SURPRISE! The murderous sea monster is actually a misunderstood mother protecting her eggs, and the REAL villains are wealthy industrialists!

Wait... WHAT?!

And the plot holes?!

1. Mudder's mucus apparently contaminated the water, compelling people into the ocean to be eaten. So she was ACTIVELY HUNTING humans, not just protecting her nest?

2. If she only attacked to defend her eggs, why was she attacking people on shore and nowhere near the iceberg?

3. WHAT WAS THE POINT OF THE CULT?! The fish, drugs, worshipping, Maggie, Wade, Sea Hag?! An entire storyline that seemingly went NOWHERE.

4. This creature is supposedly so rare and undocumented that the doctor SHOOTS the Sir Franklin captain to save it. Yet the ending reveals MORE icebergs, presumably containing more nests with THOUSANDS of eggs?! How has nobody discovered these creatures?!

5. The sudden moral shift. Mudder spends the series killing people, then suddenly we're supposed to cheer for her rescue because she's a mother? Why not explore the genuinely interesting question: Does an endangered species deserve protection even when it's dangerous to humans?

My verdict:

I love a good mystery and don't need everything explained. But there's a difference between intentional ambiguity and abandoning half your plot.

The writers started with a fantastic horror premise, took an unnecessary detour into cult horror, and finished with an environmental rescue movie.

Instead of a compelling, morally complicated thriller, we got Midsommar meets The Thing meets Free Willy. 🤣

PLEASE tell me I'm not the only one with approximately 47 unanswered questions?!

I think the Sea Witch was designed with Samara from "The Ring" in mind. I mean Josh Hartnett, The Ring girl...straight to our lil millenial nostalgia hearts. Some parts are corny, but the nostalgia core is worth it to me! 😁

Please recommend any good gripping limited series in Netflix. As most of the series have a good start and as they progress they get deviation. How is the Burroughs is it good to watch?

My partner and I just finished watching Animals and we honestly liked it. Then I came to Reddit because I wanted to read everyone's theories and interpretations and apparently everyone HATES it LOL.

I felt like there were so many overlapping themes: morality, greed, politics, immigration, race, class, marriage, the value of human life, self-preservation, etc. I wanted to share some thoughts because I'm curious what other people took away from it.

First, I was suspicious of Sam from the very beginning.

When he immediately tried to brush off the kidnapping as a prank while the photographer was STILL taking pictures, I thought that was so weird? I spent most of the movie wondering if Sam was somehow behind everything to get Mark elected.

He was constantly focused on the campaign. Your candidate's child has been kidnapped and you're still trying to get him to give speeches?? Then, when it turns out to be Hector, Sam calls it an "interesting turning point," which Mark repeats at the end.

Sam also suggests Ramon could be responsible, Dayle pushes Mark and Abby to consider who might want to hurt them, and you could even start suspecting Ron. It felt like the movie kept inviting us to assign blame and find a motive.

I almost wanted a reveal that Sam orchestrated everything, but I also think the ambiguity is part of what I liked. We WANT explanations for people's actions. It's easier to make sense of something terrible when we can assign a motive to it.

Then there's Dayle and the whole morality thing.

She spends so much time interrogating Mark and Abigail about their secrets, finances, and marriage, even though those things initially seem irrelevant to the kidnapping. But I thought that was the point. She's forcing them to confront who they actually are underneath their public image.

And when they realize it's Hector instead of their own son, suddenly everything changes. Would they still make the same sacrifices for the child of an undocumented family they "barely know"? Why does his life seem to have a different value?

Mark says something along the lines of, "They are treating my son like currency, Abby. They aren't people anymore. They're animals."

That is what everyone ends up doing.

The kidnappers put a price on a child's life, Mark and Abby negotiate what they're willing to sacrifice, Sam treats the crisis as a political problem or opportunity, Mark's heroism becomes political currency, Ramon gets money, Mark gets his reputation and election, and even Mark and Abby's marriage feels transactional..

Everyone was acting out of some form of self-preservation, whether they were protecting their family, money, marriage, reputation, or literally their life. And everyone had a way of justifying their choices.

Which reminded me of the scene where Mark asks Abigail, who's a psychologist, what people do in situations like these. Her answer was essentially that people either accept what they've done or convince themselves they had no other choice.

This kind of ties into the kidnapper's story...

The rabbit-masked kidnapper is shown with debt notices, divorce paperwork, and information about the lawsuit and legislation that apparently contributed to his business collapsing. He blames Mark for losing everything and wants Mark to experience that same humiliation.

Meanwhile, Mark is desperately trying to avoid losing his money, marriage, and political career. And the kidnapper's attempt to destroy him ultimately helps Mark become a hero.

The immigration/political commentary was interesting too.

Ramon talks about how selfish people in America are, and at the end Mark says Mexico is safer than LA. Meanwhile, Mark is now this celebrated hero who's supposedly going to save LA, while the undocumented family whose child was kidnapped ends up leaving the country.

It almost felt like, "See? LA is so dangerous that sending them back to Mexico was actually a good thing and we are such good people!" Even though the public doesn't know what happened.

And the money?? We're talking about MILLIONS throughout the movie, but the public story is about $100,000? Is that the value we assign them?

Mark comes out of everything with his life, marriage, reputation, and career intact, and actually benefits politically. The outcome would've been very different if he'd had to tell the truth.

And the marriage!!

Mark seems convinced that losing the election and his money will make Abigail leave him. But she already seems halfway out the door? I got the impression she cared more about not feeling seen, heard, or loved than about his money or becoming the mayor's wife. She didn't even seem happy about him running.

Then there's the scene where Abby forcefully hugs Mark for the cameras, he says he didn't do it on purpose, and then acknowledges they needed more happy pictures. YUCK. Even their affection becomes something to manufacture for the campaign.

I never really believed Mark when he said he loved her either. It felt more like "please don't ruin my election" than genuine affection. Although maybe that was intentional? Or maybe the acting just wasn't convincing LOL.

And Abigail's affair damages Ron's family, but she and Mark ultimately preserve their own. Neither of them is innocent, yet they choose to stay together. Was that love? Self-preservation? Convenience? Another transaction?

Do I think it was perfectly executed? No.

The acting was... okay. Mark's crying scene was honestly pretty bad. Some parts felt awkward, and the wagon scene was odd. I didn't even realize people thought it might be AI until I read about it afterward.

I also understand wanting more explanation about the kidnappers. James' connection to the opening scenes is easy to miss, but I didn't feel like their identities were necessarily the focus. To me, the kidnapping was what exposed everyone else's morality and survival instincts.

And I've seen people confused about how Ramon showed up at the location, but weren't he and Cici listening on speakerphone when the instructions were given?

The movie actually reminded me a little of The Drama with Zendaya and Robert Pattinson, in the sense of questioning morality and human behavior. What's right and wrong? How much do circumstances matter? Why do we judge some decisions differently than others? Where do we draw the line between understanding someone's choices and excusing them?

I just felt like there was a LOT going on beneath the kidnapping plot, even if some of it wasn't executed particularly well.

Did anyone else kinda like it or interpret some stuff similarly? Or interpret anything completely differently?? :)

TL;DR: I thought Animals was less about the kidnapping itself and more about morality, greed, self-preservation, and how people justify their decisions. Almost everyone ends up treating something (or someone) like currency, even while condemning others for doing the same. I liked the ambiguity and all the overlapping themes, even if the execution wasn't perfect. Curious if anyone else saw it that way!