So, I have watched this show since I was in elementary school, and my hot take on this whole situation is that Jenna's choreography is the problem here not Carrie Ann. I was so excited for Harry to be on the show, I was a huge Glee fan. Experienced dancers being on the show isn't a new thing, I have no issue with it, it makes the show more fun to watch. But, Harry was a professional commercial dancer, so Jenna should really be challenging him to learn more ballroom technique. His dances aside from the jive have had a lot of what Len would call "nonsense" in them, he doesn't need all those tricks and bells and whistles, teach him ballroom and make the ballroom content the vast majority of the choreography. It feels like Jenna is just relying on what he is experienced with rather than truly challenging him and making him a bona fide ballroom dancer. Instead of whining and complaining she and her husband should stop whining and being disrespectful, take the commentary and use it to improve. She essentially ignored their feedback after the Waltz where they also felt like she was doing too much to make it different.

To the dropkick Murphys!? With Mark's music knowledge and choreography?!

Can't. Wait.

Am i the only one who feels like dancing with the stars has lost its meaning. Like i see professional and non-professional dancers critiquing and tearing down each dance like their life depends on it. You go on tiktok and see a professional dancer expecting the star, who has never danced before, to be a phenomenal dancer. Like excuse me did you learn a new dance style every week and by the end of it could outcompete Shirley Ballas? I don’t think so i think you were as bad as them and it took you years to master each style.
The show is about stars learning how to dance, some for the first time and some already have a background in dance. It should be lighthearted and fun, not professional. If you want to see good dancing, go to a ballroom competition..
ugh i’m so frustrated, everybody expects the stars to be at a level they could win the blackpool.
It’s absolutely fine to say your opinion, but it should stay at the level of “I don’t think it was their best dance” or “i feel like if they let loose, they could really nail this style” etc.
Thank you and have nice evening/day :)

Question: Why is Rylee not allowed to be criticized? It’s so strange…anytime the judges give her anything that is not glowing praise, social media freaks out. Same thing happened on the Next Pro, with AJ. I just don’t quite understand it. If you are constantly getting criticism, I think it’s important to reflect on why. If everyone constantly attacks the people who are trying to help, she’s never going to see a reason to change. There are things she can work on…there are things EVERYONE can work on. That is genuinely a part of life: growing, changing, getting better. Right? Anyway…what does everyone else think? Is there something I’m just not seeing?

EDIT: I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADD THAT I THINK IT’S UNFAIR THAT AJ GOT ATTACKED WHEN HIS FIANCÉE DEFENDED HIM, BUT RYLEE’S BOYFRIEND IS DOING THAT SAME THING WITH ABSOLUTELY NO CRITICISM. BOTH ARE WRONG.

In an IG Stories post on Wednesday, Oct. 14, Witney shared a snap of herself backstage at Jimmy Kimmel Live!, where she was bidding a final goodbye to Guillermo.

The DWTS pro’s mirror selfie featured a small baby blue quilted purse by Dior. “Gift from Guillermo and fam why is he the sweetest!” she wrote over the photo.

Both feet are off the ground! If you look at their dance around the 1:11-1:14 mark on this video…you can see both of her feet come off the floor!

https://youtu.be/PZvoHMSbhPc?is=SqsagHwMEKPtOcKl

Maybe it had nothing to do with lifting Harry.

This will be the Megathread to discuss Carrie Ann, Val and Jenna Johnson discussion, opinions, share screenshots, your hot take, additional social media, new information, old information and anythings related to what happened this week. New posts will not be accepted regarding this subject.

Here are some side by sides of Jackson/Tyler/Connor. You can see the difference.

Is anyone else shocked Guillermo was eliminated this week?

How did he get over scored this week and was the one to go home when last week he was underscored and still safe?

I know there are some people who posted when Cierra got out that the voting is super protected and strict but to my knowledge that’s only the case with shows with cash prizes. Since all that is won is a trophy (the mirrorball), I wonder if it might be more like the VMAs where fans vote but the producers can still have final say.

(VMAs always say they pick within the top 2-3 of votes, I wonder if DWTS can pick who goes home between who ends up in the bottom 2-3 of votes + judges scores.)

Also because I remember an interview Miley Cyrus did while on The Voice and she wanted to buy one of her contestants a hat or a vest because she thought it was perfect for them but producers said no because she’d have to either buy that same thing for all her contestants or something of equal cash value or else it would break the rules because everyone had to be equal.

Compare that to DWTS where some people’s dances use the troupe but not everyone’s does, and other things like Amber Riley getting to sing the Mariah song for Harry. That would be seen as advantages for specific people which wouldn’t fly with the stricter rules of shows where money is won.

Anyway I was just wondering how Guillermo was eliminated this week. Did he just not have as big of a fan base voting as everyone was assuming?
Because the assumption was he would be like Andy (and had a bigger fan base with the Jimmy Kimmel). But Andy got a lot farther in the competition.
Or do you think it’s rigged and the producers figured it was finally his time to go?

(Please note I do like Connor and I’m happy he’s staying but I am shocked he stayed over Guillermo considering their scoring was very similar.)

okay im not the biggest fan over Carrie Ann but some of yall are unhinged. no one deserves this amount of back lash or even death threats in my opinion over this. yes she can be extremely harsh and have a way with her words, but this is her job to criticize the stars. without criticism this show will be bland and boring since no one will be improving. social media has seriously ruined dwts. everyone wants to attack and threaten someone over the smallest issue. she is like this every year, she isnt going to change, yall need to stop bullying her.

another thing is, ive heen a val girl since I was younger, but this season he has lowkey disappointed me. especially with his comment towards Carrie Ann on Tuesday. again I say, no one deserves to be threatened. I really hope he apologizes and takes some sort of accountability. yes he was mad and defending his wife, but he took it to far. for all the val/jenna fans defending his behavior, I understand whyd you wanna support him on this hes one of my favs, but you dont go threatening someone especially if your on some sort of platform. honestly wont be surprised if Jenna or Harry go home these next two weeks because of this situation.

I honestly preferred val alot more last season. when val was with Alix and especially Xochitl he was a completely different person. now his ego is through the roof and hes very cocky.

The recent exchange between C.A.I. and Jenna J. made me wish for more of that push back and also the conflicts with partners. I wondered what you all think?

-I wanted to add that I have only been posting random things for a short time, and I really appreciate the engagement of the community. I don't always agree with everything (obviously) but I like to get the temperature of what people are thinking and I wanted to thank everyone that has responded to any of my postings (even the snark). Hope you all enjoy your day or night.

I saw all the drama before I watched and I was getting nervous to watch 😬 However, now that I have, I think the CAI and Jenna stuff is overblown. It's nothing new. CAI always has been the lift police, to the point of boos and people disagreeing for years. She docks a point, whatever, move on. Talk smack privately, but the way Jenna and Val, and people online are charging with this is crazy.

Second thought when watching is, I still haven't found myself enjoy Harry's dances. Anyone else? I can't quite figure out exactly what it is, but it just never connects, or is distinct in my memory, and I feel nothing nor do I ever thing 'ooo I gotta watch that again!' I had felt the same way with Jenna D's early performances, but shes doing better and this weeks was amazing and he last two were good too.

My last thought, Jackson, Tyler and Connor should have all had 6's sprinkled with some 7s for the judges that really enjoyed it. I have a really hard time watching Jackson, again don't know why exactly. Tyler in the middle, but Connor, even with mistakes, I can enjoy as entertainment even.

Jenna and Val, Ezra and Dani, Amber and Pasha- all 9s. Choreo was stellar, felt like all of them connected with their partners, highlighted strengths, and showcased the dance style while managing to celebrate the theme of Super Bowl night.

Maura and Mark- 3 8s, 1 9 works for me. It was solid, they have a great connection without a doubt. I look forward to them each week. I don’t think it quite packed the wow factor as the others’ did this week, but I’ll give them the 9 for staying true to the style within the theme.

Tatyana and Jan - think they all deserve all 8s. They were all entertaining. Tatyana and Jan had a great salsa with a shit song working against them, but still a clear salsa. They delivered where others cut corners and still gave us great content in the theme.

Jenna and Harry, Ezra and Julia- 3 8s, 1 7-. DONT COME FOR ME. They both had fantastic dances with cool content that catered to the strengths of the celeb and the theme. HOWEVER, both Ezra and Jenna cut corners with their respective dance type imo and I found that irritating when others were out here working with the music they were given. At least Ezra admitted it. I know Jenna had some Samba in there, but between the music and other choreo choices it really didn’t come off like it to me (and clearly wasn’t to the judges).

Tyler and Sharna- 1 8, 3 7s. This was fun! It had jazz! It played to his strengths! He still looked awkward but less than previous weeks. It wasn’t that memorable though. He’s still kind of keeping his head above water.

Jackson and Emma- All 7s- Similar to Tyler, Jackson is improving here, but it wasn’t that memorable to me. Like, even less than Tyler’s dance (or honestly Connor because they shaded him so badly). He’s just kind of there for me and it shows.

Connor and Rylee- 3 7s, 1 6. Whatever, it was awkward, but he’s trying! I do find him more entertaining than Jackson and find myself rooting for him more, I wanted to give him all 7s but I think Jackson had slightly more rhythm this week. I think they’re interchangeable though, minus the judges harping on him way more than Jackson.

Witney and Guillermo - all 6s, entertainment ALONE!! Did you’ll see those splits??? Idc if it’s not about her! I found Guillermo way more endearing and fun to watch than Andy, and I’m honestly so sad he’s gone way earlier then Andy. He was trying and Witney truly is genius in how she can work with anyone and play to strengths + likability.

Overall: while Guillermo is clearly the worst dancer, I personally think Jackson is the most boring to watch, with Tyler quickly behind. Connor’s redeeming quality right now is his charisma, but I’m not sure that will get him votes much longer now that Guillermo is out. I do think those 3 will be easily the next to go, unless some of the others have a scandal or something to lose a chunk of fans to blow numbers.

CAI commented this on a video she posted last week because her comments have been consistently filled with hate. i think it’s even more relevant to the discussion now because she is being torn to shreds by every fanbase and i can’t imagine how much that sucks.

i don’t agree with a lot of her judgements, and i also make jokes about having beef with her, but going into her comment section and being straight up mean is wild work when i KNOW 99% of yall don’t actually know what you’re talking about when it comes to dance.

i just feel the need to defend her, especially after the comment val made, because i know that is going to enable a lot more people to make even worse comments. at the very least, leave your hateful comments within the subreddits and fan spaces, not directly in her comment section where she will be forced to see them. my goodness some of you are so hateful and mean it sucks all of the fun out of this show.

I avoid looking at upcoming dances, but saw her dedication is to Ireland. I just wanted to explain some significance to her dance next week and what it means to me.

Mods, this is going to be a frequently talked about subject within the next week. I’m aware of the politics rule, but this is different.

Maura’s a raging republican. This has completely different context in Ireland. Republicans there are fighting for a united country without English controlling the north. It has nothing to do with the US definition. If you’ve ever seen Derry Girls, she hates the orange order.

The british occupation significantly changed the Irish population. The potato famine was actually a strategic starvation. It’s changed the DNA of following generations. Maura’s been ridiculed on Tiktok for being scored high for her skinny frame. That’s a common trait among Irish people because of being starved.

That generational trauma has also resulted in addiction and illnesses. Irish people are like 75% of hemochromatosis deaths. This happens when you have too much iron. During starvation, this genetic mutation helped people survive. Now it’s killing predecessors generations later. Also, Irish people significantly struggle with alcoholism and addictions.

The Irish language is nearly dead because of the British occupation. They’re a very patriotic country trying to regain their culture and independence.

Joe Buck’s comment about being proud to be Irish. Yes! Irish Americans are Irish. Fleeing Ireland was the only option for many. I can’t stand judgement towards not being fully from Ireland. Embracing your heritage is important, especially in the US which is a melting pot. Half the pros left USSR countries.

Anyways, up the ra & tiocfaidh ár lá

I feel like i never see him in any of the other stars TikTok’s or instagram posts. I know he has been traveling with bananaball, but these pictures were all taken on show day and he is no where to be found. Weird bc the other guys all seem so close and doesn’t seem to fit in…

I just started watching last season, so just discovered Pasha and Daniella are married, and that Alan and Emma are together. Is there any other ones that are a real couple?

I’m not a huge fan of CAI my biggest issue is her biased critiques and scoring with men vs women. She’s a lot harder on the women especially if they’re mothers. I absolutely hated the way she talked to Jen and Danielle last season. However people take things too far especially Val with his recent comment. I also think fans have taken things too far with some of the comments they’ve made about her online. What Val is doing is bullying and threatening CAI which nobody deserves to be bullied or threatened.

There’s a fine line between sharing a disagreement and just straight up bullying and attacking someone. I think Val should be pulled this season for his behavior. But I also think it’s unfair to Jenna D who isn’t involved and doesn’t seem like the type of person that supports this sort of behavior. I have always liked Jenna D and I hope fans don’t come after her for Val’s recent comment. It’s out of her control and I have a feeling she is embarrassed by her pro’s behavior.

I’m a newer fan to the show so to the older fans please fill me in on this has Val always been cocky and arrogant? Because he’s definitely shown that he is this season so far. Everyone is entitled to their opinions but again there’s a fine line between sharing a disagreement and just straight up bullying and attacking someone. I think Val thinks he can get away with it because he’s one of the more popular pros. That he tends to get paired with more famous and some that are more advanced than other contestants. What do you guys think????

1) when Joe buck said ambers split and nail bite was hot😭and then “sorry babe” to his wife 😭

It was hot he isn’t wrong but I’m another girl in her mid 20s so it feels more appropriate for me to say. At least he said sorry to his wife before? They also kind of look alike in my opinion.

2) why does no one like tyler someone please explain it to me. I also thought I saw sharna say good job babe to him so I looked up her relationship status and saw all the recent things about her husband😭 who is 57🫣

3) Jenna (Val’s partner) reminds me so much of Hilaria ugh I can’t explain it. She’s technically a good dancer but it looks so off in dwts type dances and her facial expressions last night ugh I couldn’t.
ALSO- did anyone see the pic of them together at her work? It literally looked like they were together which I get sometimes but it just didn’t seem right at all in that context

Kim Kardashian is opening up about her DWTS journey, and how she's still traumatized by the show, nearly two decades later.

Kim opened up about dancing during an appearance on Jimmy Kimmel Live! on October 15 in LA, where she talked about Guillermo Rodriguez lasting longer than her. 😂 "I was so shy to do it, I couldn't get over myself. I couldn't get into it because I was just so shy. I've never danced again.” Jimmy played a clip of Kim dancing with her pro partner Mark Ballas, which she didn't want to see. "I can't even watch," she said.

Nevertheless, Kim pitched the idea of doing a full Kardashian-Jenner season of the show.

"I told my sisters… I was like, 'Could you imagine if we did a Kardashian-Jenner whole season of all of us competing against each other on Dancing With the Stars?' We all loved [the idea] and we were all like, 'Yes, let's do it.' I don't know if they would ever do that," she said. 😊

I don’t think that DWTS could afford to have the whole Kardashian’s clan on the show, but it would be cool to have Khloe, or Kris! While Kim had a poor run on the show, don't forget how good was Rob (paired with Cheryl, runner up, season 13).

Im biased but as a nurse I would have loved to see this dance!! (If this is true)