r/TheTowerGame • u/UNCL3_SALTY_ • 17h ago
Achievement FINALLY!
After 581 days my dimension core is finally Ancestral!
r/TheTowerGame • u/UNCL3_SALTY_ • 17h ago
After 581 days my dimension core is finally Ancestral!
r/TheTowerGame • u/SnooDrawings8069 • 5h ago
Second time I've demoted. Although, I feel like I'm pretty close to staying in now
r/TheTowerGame • u/SamBartley • 20h ago
Hey pals! We have (another) patch rolling out! This one is to fix the Cells issue we mentioned earlier. Here is the note!
This patch also applies an automatic correction for the affected players.
Also, tournament is still locked to v29.1.1.
Thanks pals!
r/TheTowerGame • u/DeChance2020 • 20h ago
I have been waiting for this. It has probably been years for most players, but seeing my first completed card feels like an achievement and the first step to completing all the cards.
r/TheTowerGame • u/destructor212113 • 15h ago
Oh yeah, last night SS4 finished and I could get right away into SS5
Really happy to see it!
r/TheTowerGame • u/Flaky-Ad-9600 • 8h ago
Finally hit 100Q/hr. Next goal is 1s run!
r/TheTowerGame • u/OldStatistician7975 • 14h ago
Fever dream it's actually happening. About to put it on X5.
I just finished wall fortification as well so it's a big week for the long labs!
r/TheTowerGame • u/LuckyCharms316 • 5h ago
My smart missiles investment is finally paying off!
r/TheTowerGame • u/TheRealFilmGeek • 10h ago
r/TheTowerGame • u/Consistent-Owl-9458 • 5h ago
Greetings tower peoples,
Well, I stared at the mythic charts a bit tonight while preparing these. If the changes to the tournament in this last patch had any effect on the population I don't know. If anything this tournament had a higher median, higher 50% on place 4, etc. Could just be easy BC's masking the change. BC's at lower levels are dwarfed by the number of people getting hung up on fleets, so we're not seeing any variation down at that level. The variation we see is amusingly enough based on seeded wave skip values pushing the fleet waves around a bit.
I've trimmed the history graphs to v27.3 start. I'll post the full one somewhere as well, but for now just need to make room for the results. Also added the first regression line (place 4 only) into the mythic history chart.
In this section we provide a breakdown for you of a what-if competition where the tournament places are perfectly distributed. The place here is basically the place you'd get if there was no bracket system. I like this view because it really removes all the variables.
Feel free to compare yourself against the placement and see if you did better or worse. The places are divided roughly into the number of brackets to get the cut off for each place. The wave # given is the person or persons at the cut off between places, that is the lowest wave deserving to achieve that place.
| Place | Wave Mythic | Wave Legend | Wave Champion | Wave Platinum | Wave Gold | Wave Silver |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 1216 | 1646 | 1985 | 2741 | 1681 | 238 |
| 2 | 995 | 1424 | 1855 | 2450 | 1320 | 213 |
| 3 | 835 | 1274 | 1750 | 2372 | 1116 | 207 |
| 4 | 725 | 1176 | 1684 | 2262 | 990 | 198 |
| 5 | 655 | 1106 | 1630 | 2160 | 878 | 187 |
| 6 | 575 | 1075 | 1584 | 2140 | 810 | 172 |
| 7 | 525 | 1015 | 1522 | 2033 | 760 | 163 |
| 8 | 485 | 977 | 1471 | 1996 | 718 | 153 |
| 9 | 395 | 951 | 1422 | 1910 | 667 | 144 |
| 10 | 325 | 915 | 1380 | 1887 | 620 | 135 |
| 11 | 260 | 876 | 1349 | 1869 | 586 | 126 |
| 12 | 205 | 831 | 1306 | 1830 | 536 | 126 |
| 13 | 168 | 792 | 1273 | 1681 | 505 | 110 |
| 14 | 135 | 752 | 1241 | 1621 | 469 | 102 |
| 15 | 116 | 721 | 1211 | 1602 | 433 | 91 |
| 16 | 85 | 684 | 1183 | 1528 | 410 | 81 |
| 17 | 65 | 641 | 1162 | 1500 | 390 | 73 |
| 18 | 55 | 603 | 1135 | 1490 | 354 | 63 |
| 19 | 45 | 565 | 1101 | 1480 | 330 | 55 |
| 20 | 45 | 532 | 1062 | 1396 | 310 | 48 |
| 21 | 35 | 504 | 1031 | 1307 | 290 | 41 |
| 22 | 35 | 473 | 993 | 1221 | 267 | 36 |
| 23 | 35 | 442 | 951 | 1185 | 250 | 30 |
| 24 | 25 | 421 | 911 | 1127 | 220 | 27 |
| 25 | 25 | 384 | 854 | 1034 | 210 | 22 |
| 26 | 25 | 352 | 796 | 951 | 191 | 19 |
| 27 | 25 | 303 | 714 | 810 | 170 | 14 |
| 28 | 25 | 252 | 633 | 693 | 140 | 10 |
| 29 | 25 | 205 | 483 | 518 | 60 | 3 |
| 30 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 |
The tower.lol now gives this data here
The median value from each tournament which gives a general idea of the tournament difficulty and wave inflation over time. This value comes from actual midpoint of tournament data. (i.e. the top table)
| League | 09-09 | 09-12 | 09-16 | 09-19 | 09-23 | 09-26 | 09-30 | 10-03 | 10-07 | 10-10 | 10-14 | 10-17 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Mythic | 186 | 136 | 120 | 117 | 75 | 101 | 86 | 85 | 105 | 86 | 95 | 116 |
| Legend | 835 | 762 | 805 | 693 | 685 | 747 | 685 | 623 | 773 | 674 | 640 | 721 |
| Champion | 1186 | 1091 | 1211 | 1092 | 1103 | 1104 | 1138 | 1207 | 1152 | 1184 | 1181 | 1211 |
| Platinum | 1493 | 1495 | 1584 | 1580 | 1480 | 1334 | 1579 | 1460 | 1627 | 1320 | 1552 | 1602 |
| Gold | 420 | 400 | 421 | 400 | 410 | 400 | 408 | 400 | 400 | 403 | 432 | 433 |
The tower.lol now gives this data here
Linear regressions give a good idea of change over time, smoothing out all the battle condition noise. In addition they give a good idea how impactful the current battle condition was.
I think the current change per tournament has stopped exhibiting non-linear behavior. For now I've set September 19th as the point where league numbers are stable enough to take regressions from again. This should help answer the question of whether waves are continuing to decrease over time. Remember, few data points means that an easy set of battle conditions can pull the number up quite a bit, so don't be too eager to declare any given trend.
| ... | Legend 4 | Legend 15 | Legend 24 | Champion 4 | Champion 15 | Champion 24 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Predicted | 1173 | 706 | 409 | 1733 | 1226 | 929 |
| Actual | 1201 | 735 | 436 | 1706 | 1224 | 937 |
| Difference | 28 | 29 | 27 | -27 | -2 | 8 |
| Slope | 0.08 | -1.47 | -1.45 | 17.93 | 14.52 | 12.68 |
| PrevSlope | -2.82 | -4.56 | -4.27 | 20.83 | 14.74 | 11.92 |
| ... | Platinum 4 | Platinum 15 | Platinum 24 | Gold 4 | Gold 15 | Gold 24 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Predicted | 2175 | 1553 | 1086 | 979 | 436 | 234 |
| Actual | 2325 | 1610 | 1180 | 1010 | 450 | 240 |
| Difference | 150 | 57 | 94 | 31 | 14 | 6 |
| Slope | 0.30 | 6.83 | 0.28 | -2.10 | 3.73 | 2.48 |
| PrevSlope | -15.67 | 0.80 | -9.74 | -5.39 | 2.33 | 1.92 |
One means of getting an idea of the range of placements is by random sampling the real participants to make fake brackets, and measuring the variability in those brackets.
I chose to use 100000 brackets per league for my analysis. I am using confidence intervals, 95% and 50% (the IQR) to represent the range of waves likely present in each place.
The top table is for mythic (m), the bottom for legends (l) on the left and champion (c) on the right. Platinum and gold can be found in the links.
| place | M2.5 | M25 | M50 | M75 | M97.5 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 796.00 | 1108.00 | 1305.12 | 1511.00 | 1838.00 |
| 2 | 645.03 | 895.01 | 1054.00 | 1229.00 | 1546.00 |
| 3 | 545.67 | 767.84 | 886.00 | 1036.00 | 1306.00 |
| 4 | 486.17 | 655.97 | 786.00 | 907.31 | 1156.00 |
| 5 | 375.56 | 570.00 | 666.00 | 805.04 | 1036.00 |
| 6 | 316.89 | 522.00 | 605.99 | 687.00 | 952.00 |
| 7 | 229.00 | 463.00 | 545.67 | 636.00 | 835.95 |
| 8 | 176.00 | 366.00 | 496.00 | 566.00 | 776.71 |
| 9 | 136.00 | 317.00 | 427.00 | 526.00 | 686.64 |
| 10 | 116.80 | 236.00 | 355.00 | 486.34 | 636.00 |
| 11 | 86.00 | 186.00 | 307.00 | 406.00 | 575.25 |
| 12 | 75.18 | 147.00 | 226.00 | 336.00 | 536.00 |
| 13 | 55.98 | 117.00 | 185.47 | 285.86 | 495.91 |
| 14 | 46.00 | 106.69 | 146.42 | 225.35 | 430.00 |
| 15 | 45.66 | 85.46 | 117.00 | 176.00 | 356.00 |
| 16 | 36.00 | 65.52 | 105.94 | 136.00 | 317.00 |
| 17 | 35.98 | 55.40 | 79.00 | 116.98 | 245.12 |
| 18 | 35.61 | 45.88 | 56.00 | 95.85 | 195.80 |
| 19 | 33.00 | 40.97 | 55.00 | 75.99 | 166.03 |
| 20 | 26.00 | 36.00 | 45.79 | 56.00 | 125.13 |
| 21 | 26.00 | 35.70 | 36.00 | 46.00 | 107.00 |
| 22 | 25.97 | 35.20 | 35.98 | 45.60 | 85.60 |
| 23 | 25.81 | 26.00 | 35.58 | 36.00 | 65.22 |
| 24 | 25.65 | 26.00 | 27.00 | 35.85 | 54.00 |
| 25 | 25.54 | 25.96 | 26.00 | 35.34 | 45.67 |
| 26 | 25.43 | 25.71 | 25.98 | 26.00 | 36.00 |
| 27 | 25.23 | 25.59 | 25.78 | 26.00 | 35.73 |
| 28 | 17.65 | 25.43 | 25.60 | 25.83 | 27.00 |
| 29 | 16.65 | 24.00 | 25.40 | 25.59 | 26.00 |
| 30 | 1.00 | 16.66 | 17.66 | 25.35 | 25.73 |
| place | L2.5 | L25 | L50 | L75 | L97.5 | C2.5 | C25 | C50 | C75 | C97.5 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 1221 | 1563 | 1734 | 1915 | 2245 | 1716 | 1932 | 2042 | 2231 | 2622 |
| 2 | 1103 | 1325 | 1495 | 1673 | 1952 | 1626 | 1783 | 1893 | 1991 | 2264 |
| 3 | 1033 | 1196 | 1318 | 1478 | 1761 | 1542 | 1697 | 1782 | 1888 | 2058 |
| 4 | 977 | 1109 | 1201 | 1336 | 1615 | 1472 | 1632 | 1706 | 1789 | 1960 |
| 5 | 944 | 1073 | 1133 | 1225 | 1488 | 1412 | 1582 | 1646 | 1719 | 1892 |
| 6 | 896 | 1015 | 1075 | 1158 | 1363 | 1364 | 1513 | 1608 | 1663 | 1814 |
| 7 | 851 | 971 | 1036 | 1103 | 1281 | 1324 | 1463 | 1544 | 1625 | 1750 |
| 8 | 805 | 942 | 993 | 1070 | 1196 | 1283 | 1408 | 1488 | 1579 | 1702 |
| 9 | 765 | 901 | 956 | 1015 | 1144 | 1249 | 1368 | 1444 | 1522 | 1657 |
| 10 | 726 | 861 | 925 | 981 | 1103 | 1214 | 1335 | 1397 | 1473 | 1624 |
| 11 | 692 | 818 | 892 | 954 | 1074 | 1190 | 1297 | 1363 | 1428 | 1584 |
| 12 | 648 | 777 | 851 | 924 | 1025 | 1164 | 1262 | 1326 | 1385 | 1530 |
| 13 | 606 | 740 | 811 | 886 | 991 | 1142 | 1231 | 1292 | 1354 | 1482 |
| 14 | 573 | 707 | 774 | 844 | 956 | 1106 | 1204 | 1254 | 1320 | 1445 |
| 15 | 541 | 665 | 735 | 805 | 933 | 1073 | 1175 | 1224 | 1282 | 1402 |
| 16 | 515 | 625 | 702 | 769 | 896 | 1043 | 1154 | 1199 | 1252 | 1365 |
| 17 | 490 | 593 | 661 | 731 | 862 | 1012 | 1123 | 1172 | 1221 | 1338 |
| 18 | 460 | 555 | 622 | 701 | 824 | 979 | 1092 | 1152 | 1194 | 1299 |
| 19 | 439 | 528 | 588 | 656 | 787 | 943 | 1056 | 1116 | 1169 | 1266 |
| 20 | 419 | 501 | 551 | 613 | 750 | 911 | 1023 | 1082 | 1145 | 1234 |
| 21 | 390 | 469 | 520 | 576 | 714 | 864 | 990 | 1050 | 1111 | 1205 |
| 22 | 369 | 442 | 492 | 541 | 675 | 819 | 951 | 1013 | 1072 | 1179 |
| 23 | 336 | 425 | 460 | 511 | 626 | 774 | 912 | 976 | 1039 | 1154 |
| 24 | 302 | 390 | 436 | 480 | 590 | 714 | 864 | 937 | 1002 | 1119 |
| 25 | 275 | 365 | 401 | 446 | 548 | 666 | 812 | 891 | 955 | 1078 |
| 26 | 238 | 322 | 373 | 423 | 511 | 603 | 751 | 832 | 912 | 1038 |
| 27 | 214 | 283 | 331 | 381 | 472 | 512 | 680 | 770 | 852 | 992 |
| 28 | 176 | 240 | 286 | 342 | 436 | 404 | 611 | 690 | 782 | 938 |
| 29 | 131 | 204 | 236 | 285 | 391 | 10 | 480 | 601 | 687 | 864 |
| 30 | 1 | 145 | 184 | 222 | 325 | 1 | 42 | 413 | 553 | 754 |
A general description of how to read this for the non-math inclined:
Reddit isn't the best platform for images, and so I publish history and box plots for all leagues here. Each tournament I'll post the box plots for each league as well as the wave count history for each league. I will not mention the full list of available graphs each post, so take a look. Special thanks to the maintainers of thetower.lol which is the data source I analyze for this post.
r/TheTowerGame • u/ESChanni • 8h ago
Are there any plans to change auto merging to either turn off auto merging epic+ modules or allow shattering of the excess epic+? It feels extra tedious and such an awkward micro manage to go in and manually stop that merging or going through the hassle of constantly merging a mythic+ and shattering to get rid of the excess. It's also a hassle that it learned later in the game when you realize the inventory is cluttering and you have too many modules to shatter
r/TheTowerGame • u/azov1 • 12h ago
I just learned that my ILM are not getting the effect that I unlocked with stones and researched for a month, when will it be fixed?
r/TheTowerGame • u/Significant_Mud2331 • 18h ago
New pb but worst placement in a month because of bracket luck
r/TheTowerGame • u/jsn0x • 14h ago
So prior to this patch I was getting by in mythic by sniping an OC with DP and then just whittling down the sab and commander. However, since the latest patch the commander is just LAUNCHING basic enemies at me. Prior to the patch I was able to keep them knocked back, but now they are smacking my tower halfway through the wave??? There has been no change to my tournament setup since before the patch.
r/TheTowerGame • u/DocPooky • 12h ago
I did one run and ended up with 116 waves, an improvement over my personal best of 95 waves from last tournament. I didn't make any significant upgrades I don't think other than finishing another level for the two cannon assmod labs.
With about 1 hour 40 minutes remaining (about 7 hours after starting the tournament), I'm at 12th place, which would be great if it holds. 13th is at 85th; 11th is 185. First is 945, 2nd 825, 3rd 805. There are two 25 wavers above the line, 3 25ers, two with 16, and a 1 (previous high wave 5) below the line.
EDIT: I think i have a pretty soft bracket. I can't remember the last time I had a soft bracket.
I'll have enough stones to add either nuke or fortress mastery this time; I think that's what I'm going to go for.
How's yours?
r/TheTowerGame • u/CauseKey3312 • 14h ago
How is your plat tournament going?
Is it just my bracket l7ck or these conditions make everyone stronk?
r/TheTowerGame • u/ImportantElk3040 • 16h ago
Just a friendly reminder to restore your model levels after doing the shard cost lab. Went from level 146 to 151 on a couple slots and 150 on the other two
r/TheTowerGame • u/Zzqzr • 18h ago
Haven’t done dissonant runs for quite a bit, so time to run them soon again on certain tiers.
Any new modules make a huge change to certain dissonant types?
Like;
- Atk dissonance
- Def dissonance
- Utility dissonance
- UW dissonance
And which ones to use?
r/TheTowerGame • u/Greenleaf_91 • 20h ago
Last nudge was rerolling some sub effects from myth to anc and putting 25q into coin bonus enhancement
r/TheTowerGame • u/anonmonday1234 • 21h ago
This is with GB+ maxed.
After correction it's a 17% loss of cells per run.
This is only meant as a visual.
r/TheTowerGame • u/Maskarponeleone • 3h ago
Hey Folks,
at what Point the Recovery package build for ATK Disso runs becomes relevant?
and what are the Basic conditions i have to fullfill to make it Work?
or is it a Go with the flow?
r/TheTowerGame • u/EpilepticTardis • 18h ago
It's my second tower birthday hers done progress pics.
Edit: any constructive feedback welcome, I don't consider myself any authority but any help I can provide I will.