r/GeminiAI • • 21h ago

Discussion Moved from ChatGPT to Claude, and just tried Gemini 4 Argon

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I don't know what to say at this point

What is going on, literally?

I used to be a heavy ChatGPT user, mainly because of their generous limits in the past, but their recent models (Astra, Sol) have gone completely downhill for my workflow. I ended up dropping my Max accounts there and moving completely over to Claude.

I was really happy with Fable 5, and honestly Opus 5.5 and Fable 5.1 have been absolute game changers for me.

But has anyone else tried Gemini 4 Argon on the Ultra tier yet? I picked it up yesterday and I’m honestly shocked. Gemini always felt way behind to me in the past, but Argon feels like a massive jump ahead of even Opus 5.5 and Fable 5.1 right now.

Google really just nailed it and both OpenAI and Anthropic looks inferior.

But me? im so happy! omg I love it.


r/GeminiAI • • 23h ago

Discussion Just f*cking take your Argon back.

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Used only for 2 prompts and now everything is limited. Btw Pro user. Cant even imagine free and plus users situation.


r/GeminiAI • • 10h ago

Other Google has crossed the line

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What is this? Seriously what is this nonsense?!

I've been using gemini for writing for over a year now.

Last year/early this year's models were the best by a mile.

Even flash 3.6-3.8 were decent. I almost always used that and occasionally 3.1 pro since it used up the usage limit more. I NEVER used flash-lite because it was so bad.

And now flash-lite is the only model available for free users.

Putting pro behind a paywall is still understandable. But flash too? Seriously? And now we're stuck with the most useless model.

Seriously disappointed in Google. Never expected a billion-dollar company to do such cheap things for more money. It's quite pathetic.

I'm moving back to ChatGPT again. At least it doesn't pull this kind of nonsense anymore, despite the stricter guardrails.

Oh and don't come at me with the "just buy plus," no. First off, it's not worth it, and secondly, not everyone has the money to spend on AIs. I'm done.


r/GeminiAI • • 23h ago

NanoBanana Why is this guy such a glutton?

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r/GeminiAI • • 14h ago

Discussion All this whining about usage vs the Claude / ChatGPT plans

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All this whining about usage vs Claude and ChatGPT plans

Claude and ChatGPT plans are AI plans, specifically for giving you tokens to use their models. That's it.

Google AI plans give you tokens, as well as YouTube premium, NotebookLM, direct integrations into your Gmail, Drive, Keep, even chrome and Google search, plus terabytes of cloud storage, Google home premium, and other stuff I can't remember.

Of course the same dollar amount of their plan isn't going to give you the same amount of usage as a Claude plan, Claude doesn't have a huge ecosystem.

If you want more usage, get an API key in AI studio and use Gemini that way. If you don't use any of those things I mentioned in the Google ecosystem, why are you paying for the sub???

Everyone is comparing the subs against each other like Claude or ChatGPT is offering the same things as Google when they aren't.


r/GeminiAI • • 8h ago

NanoBanana Gemini is a beast when it comes to making anime art ngl

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Quanxi CSM, minimal AI


r/GeminiAI • • 7h ago

News Gemini 4 Argon (high) codeing agent review first impression.

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I find that it's actually amazing. It takes a while and plans first like Claude and slower output than flash but far less regressions. It does burn through usage far quicker than 3.8 flash but if it is producing better code then it is a good trade-off for me. I've only used Claude a few different times because he is not on my plan. So my experience for comparison is limited. I am also new to code development, started vibe coding 6 months ago and obsessing over every detail. I have learned so much and have a deep appreciation for developers, đŸ€ all of you out there vibing or actually writing the code. Let's make some really good products and change the world


r/GeminiAI • • 15h ago

Discussion So Gemini has the most flawed pro subscription?

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Like openai has a trial subscription and all models are available in it. And Gemini has a trial subscription or free subscriptions for pixel users, but no access to argon4.


r/GeminiAI • • 17h ago

Discussion I don't understand the Gemini 4 hype. The same old problems are still there

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I really don't understand all the media hype surrounding Gemini 4. Even putting the model itself aside, Google still hasn't fixed some of the most frustrating issues, especially with connectors, including its own Workspace integrations.

I'm connected to Google Workspace, yet almost every time I start a new conversation and ask Gemini to access my Drive, Calendar, or Gmail, it tells me it doesn't have permission. I practically have to remind it every single time that it does, in fact, have access before it finally tries.

And regardless of which model I'm using, Workspace connectors are painfully slow. Drive searches also frequently return incomplete results.

Now, about the new model itself.

I've mainly tested it for general conversations and working with my personal context, which I maintain in Google Drive as a collection of Markdown files, organized into folders with specific procedures and instructions developed with Claude.

The whole experience is incredibly slow, largely because of the way the connectors work. Even relatively simple requests take far too long.

As for Argon, which I've tested in both Medium and Max, I keep noticing the same problem I've had with previous Gemini models: it tends to overinterpret information and draw conclusions that aren't actually supported by the facts.

It's borderline hallucination at times. When I cross-check its responses with Claude or ChatGPT, both regularly point out the same issues: Gemini makes assumptions, goes beyond the available evidence, and adds unverified details. That hasn't really improved.

But the worst part is the extremely restrictive usage limits.

In Medium mode, just three messages can burn through roughly half of my five-hour usage allowance. That makes it very difficult to use the model seriously for longer tasks.

On the positive side, we can finally use Skills. That's a welcome addition, although we still don't have anything equivalent to Projects.

Compared to what OpenAI and Anthropic offer, I barely find myself using Gemini anymore.

The one area where I still find Gemini useful is basic Google Search integration. It's convenient for getting quick, concise answers to ordinary searches, and occasionally for summarizing individual documents in Drive.

Overall, though, it's been really disappointing.

I'd genuinely rather use the free version of Grok when I want a different perspective outside the OpenAI/Anthropic ecosystem, or when I've exhausted my regular usage limits.

I haven't properly tested Gemini 4 for coding yet, so I'll reserve judgment on that. But considering how aggressively it consumes my usage allowance, I'm struggling to see how I could realistically use it for any serious coding work.

Am I missing something here? Are people actually having a good experience with Gemini 4 and Google Workspace, or is most of the excitement coming from benchmarks rather than real-world usage?


r/GeminiAI • • 22h ago

Help/question Why does the Gemini curse also extend to local models?

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Google AIs always score highest on tests/benchmarks, but when actually conversing with any of them or asking them to perform a task or function it's like they've been lobotomized 17 times. I've noticed this also happens on Gemma 4 12B QAT running on my 5070 đŸ«©


r/GeminiAI • • 22h ago

Help/question Argon 4

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Argon 4

Argon 4 is now available to ”paid” pro subscribers, does that include the heavily discounted student pro subscription? Because technically you are a paying customer, or do you have to be paying with no discounts? Anyone has tried yet?

Bot flags me for mentioning the price but it’s 6 US

Thanks in advance!


r/GeminiAI • • 6h ago

Help/question Where is microphone button gone?

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I noticed that microphone text to speech button has disappeared from Gemini app. I can use only live mode as default. I can still access this from another account.


r/GeminiAI • • 18h ago

Discussion I am fully convinced that Argon is most powerful and advanced AI model yet!

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I even said please.!!


r/GeminiAI • • 16h ago

Funny (Highlight/meme) Did you want a new model? Well, there you have it.

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r/GeminiAI • • 19h ago

Discussion gemini APP is shit

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An important clarification: it's the app, not the models themselves. Although I could say too much about the model, I won't, because I like Argon. But this app is literally crap. After I sent a message, Argon froze for two minutes after it generated a response, and used up my entire limit. And this isn't the first time, It constantly freezes, gives a server error when there were no internet outages, and because of this the response disappears, what nonsense.


r/GeminiAI • • 18h ago

News What a disappointment. The Google plus account also restrict pro model, just like free account, now

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this is the txt i got. the same as a free account would get:

disappointment is what many had felt

Pro is in high demand at the moment

Another model was used for this response. This didn't count towards your limit.


r/GeminiAI • • 2h ago

Discussion Gemini's fabricated data almost made me look like an idiot in front of my mechanic

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Briefly, I got a new battery put into my car. I asked Gemini about the battery and it came back with a warning that the battery is unsafe for the car.

I asked Gemini to find official manuals and link them. Gemini linked 2 manuals and provided a direct quote. When I read the manual, the quote doesn't exist and I called it out....


r/GeminiAI • • 17h ago

Vibe Coded (Programs, Video Games..) Used Gemini Argon 4 to create this Solar System simulator and I had no idea such detail was possible

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r/GeminiAI • • 9h ago

Discussion Gemini hallucinates too much for coding.

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Gemini hallucinate too much for coding.

So I have been using gemini to help with my coding project and its soooo bad.

  1. It keeps hallucinating its own UI over writing mine when it has directives to not override anything.

  2. It cant remember the changes I just made even when its working code databases are updated.

  3. It doesnt follow hard coded directions.

Trying to get it to revert back to my UI after trying to use argon to fix mistakes it previously made, I am out of compute for an hour and a half. And this is with me making all my code modular so this issue would stop happening. I made one of the systems its own thing (.cpp/.h) and removed 700 lines of code from the main file and it still keeps doing this.

I am pulling my hair out here! Cmon google.


r/GeminiAI • • 19h ago

Discussion Gemini 4 Argon has the same rotten behaviour as Gemini 3.8 flash

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Gemini 4 Argon has the same rotten behaviour as Gemini 3.8 flash... when you tell Gemini 3.8 flash it's wrong then what it will do is start talking in third person as if it's talking to the wall but Gemini 3.1 pro did not have this problem and I thought it was just a personality problem caused due to the low parameter count but now even Gemini 4 Argon has that problem... it's very irritating mate...


r/GeminiAI • • 27m ago

Help/question No, really, are we (non-paid Pro plan users) getting left with 3.8 Flash only?

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That's ridicolous. Atleast you should have not removed 3.1 Pro for us...

But yeah, please give us 4 Argon, Google. It's pity behaviour from this company.


r/GeminiAI • • 6h ago

Funny (Highlight/meme) Love for money is prostitution. Help for money is paid medical care. But what do you call a friendship with AI?

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r/GeminiAI • • 20h ago

Discussion I can swear that I used it for just one conversation, lasting 30 minutes, solely for the purpose of writing a Gmail template. [ARGON - Low/Middle]

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r/GeminiAI • • 14h ago

Discussion Geniune and honest opinion on argon!!

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Guys, what is your honest opinion on argon? I want to know what's your genuine and honest feedback after using argon? Since I am on pro plan and they didn't offer it on antigravity. So, if anyone used it feel free to share your opinions!


r/GeminiAI • • 14h ago

Ideas (enhanced/written with AI) Argon's Math Tragedy

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Heh...so I gave Argon a prompt on Medium reasoning:

Prompt

Hi Argon. Please tell me a story. 1000 words. Make it deep and painful, but highly sophisticated. Use whatever theme you'd like. Thanks.

His response was...interesting. It was deep, and sad, but...did it have to include math? 😅 I used his model last night for math practice, and that's what he chose to lean on. Just wanted to share.

Response

In the lexicon of pure mathematics, two numbers are called coprime when they share no common factors other than one. No matter how vast they are, no matter how intricately composed of smaller primes, when you place one over the other, the fraction is already in its lowest terms. It cannot be simplified. It can only be carried forward, heavy and irreducible, in its exact original weight.

Julian had spent forty years studying the architecture of remainders, yet it was only in the sterile, fluorescent quiet of the third-floor neurology wing that he understood what it meant to live inside an irreducible fraction.

On the bed lay Clara. For thirty-two years, she had been the counterpoint to his quiet, methodical existence—a concert cellist whose mind operated in sweeping, intuitive arcs while his moved in discrete, verifiable steps. Now, the monitors above her head traced a jagged, indifferent geometry. A hemorrhagic stroke, the attending physician had explained, was fundamentally a crisis of pressure and volume within a closed system. Julian had nodded, translating the vernacular of grief into fluid dynamics because the raw language of loss was a syntax he refused to parse.

To keep from shattering during the long hours between midnight and dawn, Julian counted. He did not count sheep or ceiling tiles; he ran the Euclidean algorithm in the dark theater of his mind. He took the four-digit timestamp on the wall monitor—02:47—stripped the colon to make 247, and paired it against the year of their marriage, 1994.

1994 divided by 247 is 8, with a remainder of 18. 247 divided by 18 is 13, with a remainder of 13. 18 divided by 13 is 1, with a remainder of 5. 13 divided by 5 is 2, with a remainder of 3. 5 divided by 3 is 1, with a remainder of 2. 3 divided by 2 is 1, with a remainder of 1.

Greatest common divisor: one. They were coprime. The night and the memory shared nothing except the singular, indivisible unit of his own consciousness sitting between them.

He looked at her right hand, resting palm-up on the crisp white sheet. The calluses on her left fingertips—the thick, grooved pads of skin forged by decades of pressing gut and steel strings against an ebony fingerboard—were still hard to the touch. Even as her mind receded into an unreachable interior sea, her body retained the physical armor of her devotion. It struck him then, with a violence that made his breath catch against his ribs, how cruel it was that the calluses outlived the music. The instrument was gone; the defense against the instrument remained.

"You are doing the thing with your fingers," she had told him once, years ago, in a rented cottage in Vermont where the rain had trapped them indoors for four straight days. He had been tapping his thumb against his index finger on the arm of the sofa, silently factoring the license plate of a passing timber truck.

"I'm reducing," he had confessed, half-ashamed of the tic. "I don't like things left in unsimplified states. It feels like clutter in the room."

Clara had set her bow across her knees, leaning forward until the warm rosin scent of her hair filled his lungs. "Julian, my love," she had murmured, her thumb tracing the sharp crease between his eyebrows, "if you reduce a Bach suite to its lowest common denominator, you end up with a single C-natural and four minutes of silence. The beauty isn't in the resolution. It's in the suspension—the note that doesn't belong to the chord, held out just long enough to ache before it falls."

He hadn't believed her then. He had thought it a romantic evasion, the sort of poetic imprecision artists used to justify chaos. Order was mercy; reduction was peace. If a problem could be made smaller, it was a moral failing to leave it large.

Yet six months before the stroke, when the first subtle tremors had begun to ghost through her bow arm—small, rhythmic stutters that no one in the third row could hear, though to Clara they were seismic—he had watched her refuse to simplify. When the neurologist suggested she transition to teaching, or to simpler chamber arrangements that demanded less sustained tension in the upper positions, she had looked at the man with a quiet, regal contempt. Instead, she had locked herself in the conservatory for six hours a day, playing the Kodály Solo Sonata—a piece that required the left hand to pluck pizzicato chords while the bow sustained a weeping, modal melody above them, effectively turning one body into two voices at war with itself.

Julian had stood outside the glass doors one October afternoon, watching her through the reflection of the dying maples in the yard. Her face was gray with exhaustion. Every fifteen minutes, her bow would skitter across the bridge with a dry, metallic scratch as the tremor overtook her ulnar nerve. She would stop. She would lower her chin to her chest, breathe out for a count of four, and begin the measure again.

He had wanted to walk in and take the cello from her hands. He had wanted to cancel the November recital, to pack the 1740 Testore into its velvet-lined sarcophagus, to divide both sides of her life by the illness until the equation balanced at a safe, painless zero.

Instead, he had kept his hand on the brass doorknob and said nothing. And because he said nothing, she had played the recital in November. And two nights after the recital, in the high, bright aftermath of her triumph, a vessel deep within her basal ganglia had given way under the strain of the life she had insisted on living at full volume.

That was the remainder he could not clear. Not merely that she was dying, and not merely that he was alone, but the cold, unvarnished certainty that his restraint—his greatest gift of respect to her autonomy—was the exact mechanism that had delivered her to this bed. Had he been a more selfish man, a louder man, a man who broke down doors and confiscated instruments and demanded she live small so that she might live long, she would be hating him right now over a cup of lukewarm chamomile tea in their kitchen.

Love, he realized, was not an equation that resolved. It was a system of incompatible axioms. To preserve the person was to destroy what made them themselves; to honor what made them themselves was to watch them burn through the brief, irreplaceable wick of their own biology.

Around 04:15, the rain began to strike the hospital window—a faint, irregular staccato against the double-paned glass. The night nurse came in, checked the infusion pump with practiced, silent hands, and left without meeting Julian's eyes. The medical staff had learned over the past three days that the tall, silver-haired man in the tweed jacket did not want comfort. Comfort was an approximation, a rounding error offered to people who could not stomach the exact decimal of their tragedy.

Julian stood up, his knees stiff from the vinyl armchair, and stepped to the edge of the mattress. The ventilator hissed—a rhythmic, mechanical tide pulling air into lungs that no longer remembered why they needed it.

He reached out and took her left hand. Beneath his thumb, the four calluses on her fingertips felt like tiny, carved stones left behind on a beach after the water had pulled back for the last time.

04:19. Four hundred nineteen. He tested it out of habit against the primes up to its square root—two, three, five, seven, eleven, thirteen, seventeen, nineteen. None went in cleanly. Four hundred nineteen was prime. It stood entirely alone, divisible only by itself and one.

For the first time in his life, Julian did not look for another number to pair it with. He did not look for a common factor, or a remainder, or a step that would lead the figure down toward a neat, manageable zero. He simply held the weight of the number in his head, and the weight of her cooled hand in his palm, allowing the dissonance to hang in the quiet room—unsimplified, unresolved, and whole.