I just completed my first round of testing with Gemini 4 Argon in Antigravity. The amount of usage one gets Gemini 4 Argon on the Gemini AI PRO plan is very limited. Here is how it compares to Claude and ChatGPT plans on similar level.

Preliminary number show you get about 17x the usage with Opus 5.5 and about 7x the usage with GPT-6 Astra if you have Claude Pro plan or ChatGPT Plus plan. This was tested with coding tasks.

I really hope Google increases this soon. It seems to be a great model.

I've been using it over API via OMP since release. Hoping it gets added to Antigravity with API soon so I can use the native harness.

The model is absolutely fascinating. I'm getting similar vibes to what I felt when OpenAI released GPT-5.2 and when Moonshot AI released Kimi K3, where it's so far ahead of the competition yet benchmarks don't correctly showcase it. It's so damn thorough. Relatively fast. It's finally usable in agentic scenarios unlike the Gemini 2.5/3 series (except for 3.8 Flash of course).

I was basically using infinite GPT-6 Astra/GPT-6.1 Sol and Claude Opus 5.5 through work. Argon's default output can be a bit annoying (still league better than Opus and GPT-6/6.1), but with poteto's unslop skill, I get extremely satisfying results. It also writes good code. It's not a zero-shot beast, but if you have verifiable work, this thing is nuts.

I've let GPT-6.1 and Opus 5.5 (through CVP) attempt a cybersecurity, RE-related task I've given them. 2 days of /goal on both with very little progress and straight up burning money. Argon figured it out so quickly. This model reeks of "big model smell", it just knows all the niche shit I throw at it so extremely well. The classifiers only bother me if I do vulnerability research, which is expected; but I don't do that often so it's fine for my use.

Absolute beast. Hope to see some improvements in token efficiency with Carbon or whatever the next iteration of this model is.

Well done, Google DeepMind. Please keep it up.

It's about time!

they've also added a separate quota JUST for Argon, so I hope this goes well. has anyone tried it out yet? what're your experiences so far?

Like all discounted or sponsored pro users have so many limitations then why release that at all.
Should have created a custom category between plus and pro for these why name it PRO and give nothing as pro subscriptions
No collab usage as pro
No models
No cloud credits
Then better off not give any lol

Is Gemini 4 the magic genie or something? I get like 10 questions max at any given time. God forbid I ask it to code something. And not only is access to Argon cut off, access to 3.8 Flash and 3.1 Pro is also gone. Like what?? 😂 I did not expect this penny-pinching shit from Google, the multi-trillion-dollar business. Their model is nowhere near as good to be doing this crap

I recently developed a project that took about 700k tokens, with lots of files and constant use of context window. Flash 3.8 was able to keep the reasoning, accuracy and task connection much better than Pro 3.1 did.

I used AI Studio for this and sadly, as PRO users, google denied us Argon 4.0 which sucks, but Flash 3.8 seems pretty competent.

Using Argon 4.0 in the gemini client for long projects is terrible. Argon is a very powerful model but you just can't make the most out of it in web. Long and complex answers for projects with multiple files make it almost useless in web client.

Yesterday and today every message complicated more than "hello" eat about 33% of 5h usage limit. Wtf? Only 3-4 prompts for 5h. Why not one, Google?

Even astra on high or opus 5.5 (high) gave me about 50+ prompts for 5 hours.

Disclaimer: I'm diamond tier in Google Play, so I'm not sure if there's a minimum tier you need to claim this or not.

This is becoming a yearly thing with Google Play. Pro tier on Google to try for three months around the 4th quarter of the year until Jan.

I can confirm if you've renewed your Pro subscription within the last 5 days (my experience personally I'm not sure if there's a minimum or maximum time) it will replace your current subscription and refund you - Interested to see how far out from renewal and then claim this to get refunded still.

Just have to go to Play Store -> Play Points -> Perks and scroll down to see if it's there.

Obviously if you pay for Ultra already, this doesn't matter much, unless you plan to downgrade for a few months. I already pay for Pro and Max with GPT and Claude, so I haven't been able to justify paying for Google Ultra since before Fable/Astra, and just using Pro for all of the Google One suites it gives. With Gemini 4 Argon available on Pro now, though, definitely going to take advantage and enjoy the free months!

In case I need to say it, Google has always shipped more than just Gemini in their Google One subs, which I think always made it worth it to have at least a minimum tier

I've tested ChatGPT Sol 6.1 Medium, Argon4 Medium and Claude Opus 5.5 in Claude desktop app.

If I would make a tierlist in regards how those feels when working with them with code, I would say Claude will be 1st, and on the 2nd both Argon4 and ChatGPT.

However, If i'll make a tier list regarding the overall experience in long term, I would say Antigravity Pro subscription its not something I would recommend.

The first will be Claude, the second being Codex. If it was something besides Antigravity, I would put that on the 3rd place.

The overall tokens pool you have its so so small. I've made some comparisons, and Indeed are so small. The Claude opus 5.5 Medium model on Antigravity consumed its 5hourly limit and 49% of weekly limit from 1 prompt. For Argon4 I was able to work with it for at least 1 hour before consuming the weekly limit. And Flash 3.8... its.. idk, i just simply dont like it, it is not feeling capable of the task I usually running.

On Claude desktop, opus 5.5 I usually work for like 4-5 hours straight. Rarely hitting the 5hour limit. Same with Codex Sol 6.1

I just brought the Pro plan from Gemini being hyped about Argon4 and being curious how is it. Overall the model is capable of many things, but the overall Antigravity experience its not. Like for ~20euros Pro plan subscription to have such a small pool to work with comparative with the other alternatives, I would say, claude or Codex will be a better choice. I'll not renew the plan on Google.

This is the worst thing i have ever seen from a frontier model

I just send him like very basic normal task which is test and verify a small fauture , but he take like 15m? and eat 21% usage in the weekly argon usage

Argon is waste of time!

attention google ai pro subscribers: you can now build with gemini 4 argon in ai studio build / playground 🛠️

https://x.com/GoogleAIStudio/status/2111240722426802258

Yes believe it or not I wrote this and use the command+B to bold the names lol.

Install Serena - comes from Claude Code. Just tell Antigravity 2.0 to install it.
-Generally saves between 40% to 70% for coding and 80% when bug hunting.

Tell it to add the Surgical Reading rule. Instructs the AI to never read 500+ line files repeatedly—search for the exact line number first and only read a 40–100 line slice.

xcodemake builds 60% to 90% faster plus saves about 15% to 25% of your quota.

Install Playwrite and xcodebuild MCP - Lets the AI take its own screenshots and inspect the live app so you don't waste 5–10 turns going back and forth describing UI/layout bugs.

Prompt: "Remove the leash across his body. Try to create him a more festive Halloween background than the car backseat. Keep his orange Halloween bandana. Keep the same face, markings and expression."

Quanxi CSM, minimal AI

Hey everyone. I've been using Gemini since April, and I saw the rollout of the sliding windows and weekly usage limits back in May (at least in France, not sure about other countries). These limits have since been visible as gauges that fill up as you use Gemini.

I remember that back in May, the gauges were filling up extremely fast, and I feel like we're seeing the exact same thing since early October, right around the pricing announcements for models above Flash-Lite. Am I imagining things?

I personally only use Flash-Lite since it's enough for my use case, and up until now, my meter always stayed at 0%, probably thanks to a tweak Google made. I'd like to believe the same pattern will repeat, because honestly, watching the gauge fill up this fast for no good reason just isn't normal. I'm hoping quotas will get loosened up again like they did around June/July. What do you guys think?

It's unusable, and I honestly don't know if I will renew my subscription with them if they don't fix this. ChatGPT is way more generous with their Astra model.

Edit: I just got my argon limit reset in antigravity. Until an hour ago it was saying the limit would have reset in a week, while now is showing again 100%.