So I'm having a hard time reaching legend this month. I usually get there in the first 10 days or so, but I hit a wall around D2. I really feel like I can do it, but a few matchups are killing me, and I can't decide which version to run. Struggling with Pirate warrior, mage, DH, and both shaman flavors. Easy matchups are any priest, rafaam lock, drake lock, any egg deck, any DH deck.

Core Cards: 24 cards

2x Cursed Catacombs

2x Cursed Chains

2x Drain Soul

2x Shadowsworn Disciple

2x Caged Cranium

1x Godfather Kazakus

2x Imp Gang Stooge

1x Godfrey

2x Shrine of Twilight

2x Spire of Solitude

1x Ultraxion

2x Annihiulation

1x Deathwing

2x Unseen Atlas

Tech/Disruption:

1x Rustrot Viper - warrior, shaman, paladan, quest mage, attack druid. Auto-include 1 I think

2x Ancient Augur - auto wins vs. most combo decks (especially rafaam). I'd have a hard time getting rid of this, but it is too slow for pirate warrior and zee shaman.

1x Cho'gall - Really good in longer matchups, but maybe it's a win more card? Definitely too slow against any aggro deck, but it seals the deal against almost every slower matchup

1x Gnomeferatu - Better tempo than Augur, but no control over what gets burned

1/2x Glacial Shard - attack druid, DH, warrior. Decent a lot of the time, but not gamechanging imo

Removal/Fringe/Can't Decide:

Mortal Coil - kills pirates, draws a card, but feels useless a lot of the time. IDK if this deck needs more draw

Shadow Rounds - really good against aggro, but feels like a dead card in any other matchup

Tachyon Barrage - been experimenting with this as a finisher. It can kind of save you against wide boards, but I've also had it kill me a few times

Hellfire - obviously great against wide boards, but often times you can't afford the 3 damage

I know there's also the Animancer version with either Ultrigasaur or Asphyxiodon, but that takes up a lot of valuable room with the suffle card as well.

Mulligan: usually looking for Disciple + cursed chains, especially against priest/warlock. Always keeping catacombs and atlas, keeping viper against attack druid, DH, and warrior. Will keep Caged Cranium against faster decks if I already have some draw, will keep Img Gang Stooge except for warlock and priest. Against slower matchups I will keep/look for spire, especially if I have coin and card draw already. Sometimes I will keep Kazakus against warrior and pray for +12hp or card steal vs. combo decks. Any advice? I haven't really struggled like this to reach legend in quite a while, feel like I'm playing well, and don't really want to switch. I'd say pirate/dragon warrior is by far my most common matchup even though it should be priest according to HSGuru

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I got tired of guessing what to disenchant, so I made a free HDT plugin that plans it for me

Every time I wanted to build a new deck I ended up staring at the collection screen doing mental math. Do I need this golden? Is this rotating out? Am I going to regret dusting this epic next expansion? Half the time I dusted something I needed two weeks later.

So I built DustPlanner, a plugin for Hearthstone Deck Tracker. Pick one of your decks (or paste a deck code) and it tells you:

• What you're missing and how much dust that is, compared to what you have
• What to disenchant to get there, least painful copies first, with a reason for each one ("golden copy not used in any of your decks", "Wild-only card and you play Standard"...)
• It never suggests cards from your saved decks, cards that show up in meta decks you paste in, or stuff the game won't let you dust (rewards, Core, event cards)
• Alternatives if you don't like the first plan (no goldens, regular copies only...)
• What's leaving Standard at the next rotation

When you actually dust the cards in game, it notices on the next sync and ticks the plan off.

Since I was already there, I also added:

• Win rate by class, mode and format, read from your own game logs
• A small OBS overlay (rank, session record, dust) if you stream

The important part: it never touches the game. No clicks, no memory reading, nothing automated. It only reads what HDT already knows and the log files Hearthstone writes on its own. You still do the disenchanting yourself. Everything runs locally on your PC and nothing gets uploaded.

Free and open source (MIT). Windows only, needs HDT. The exe isn't code-signed, so Windows might warn you the first time you run it.

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I've been messing around in the Brawl most of the day and there are quite a few cards that I didn't think much of that I'm almost sure will see play in Standard decks when the expansion launches. Here's a few:

1. Scorchfist Scholar - This card feels absolutely insane to play. Not only do you get old Flamestrike on a 5 mana 3/3, but it also hits face. There is no way Shaman isn't playing this card in some sort of deck.

2. Ritual of Summoning - I know this card is divisive on 2 in the Brawl, but I also think it can slot into constructed decks as well. Aggro decks will hate to see this played on 2 against them, and I'd be somewhat surprised if a dedicated Ritual deck doesn't emerge.

3. Power Tiger - In some sort of buff deck this thing will be insane. Standard will definitely have more removal for it at least, but I felt like this card was powerful in pretty much every scenario.

4. Titanic Thrasher - I feel like this one is a popular pick in the Brawl and rightfully so, but I could see it being played in standard somewhere. Could even be insane if you could evolve it, similar to the old Mogu Fleshshaper.

Anyone else have any picks?

I've been legend before in the Blackrock Mountain Set and the Goblin and Gnomes (sneaky custom face warrior aggro-deck during the grim patron combo meta), but I haven't played really in years. Returned, picked the hunter starter deck and got lucky with some card packs.

I mostly played some home brew Face Hunter and was surprised at how quickly I ranked up in standard (approx 2 weeks playing casually).

Deck List:

1X Concealing Confection
2X Dreambound Raptor
2x Quel'dorei Fletcher
2x Raptor-Nest Nurse
1x Sizzling Cinder
1x Tracking
1x Bursting Shot
2x Guard Dog
1x Quick Shot*\*
2x Sylvanas's Triumph
2x Underbelly Network
1x Watfin
1x Arcane Tripwire
1x Niri of the Crater
1x R4T-C4TCH3R
1x Ranger General Sylvanas
-1x Ranger Captain Alleria
-1x Ranger Initiate Vereesa
1x Shepherd's Crook
1x Beast Tripwire
1x Dragonbane
1x Halazzi, the Lynx
1x Black Knight
1x Arachnathid

**for a lot of games, I ran Primordial Lord or Vanessa, the Ringleader instead to be a bit better vs priests. I think Magmaw would have been much, much better though; however, I did not have it (and didn't want to dust to craft it).

Seemed to work against all the common decks on ladder, but it was weak to Unholy Death Knight and those 40-card-deck priests deck variants. If you think pure rush down isn't going to work vs the opponent, you can mulligan differently & trade a bit to play mid-range.

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It was only after that I started googling around about the meta and seeing so many people say hunter was very weak. So, I'm curious about it -- as it seemed quite strong to me.

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No one seems to be talking about this but Grove Shaper text has now been changed too "After you cast a Nature spell, summon a 2/2 treant with "Deathrattle: Get a random Nature spell"". Whilst this may not matter to most people, it is now not possible to play combos such as the armor Druid deck in Standard and the card is now unplayable in Wild because the effect is pretty bad.

N.B. The changed text is in bold font

EDIT: corrected bad grammar from writing the initial post when a bit tired

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I love cards that disrupt. All sorts of tech, loving the new warlock cards that steal and discard opponent cards. Basically I enjoy punishing combo decks or gaining tempo through tech. Steamcleaner vs azalina is so satisfying.

Aee there any archetypea you see in the coming expansion that would be particularly good at this or any that look particularly succeptible?

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Many cards seem to be both more explosive and more fun than the past two years, which leads one to believe that Team 5 have finally listened to the general audience and/or have seen playing numbers decline to the point that they realized a change needed to be made. The abilities and support cards of the Old Gods not only hearken to TITANS but even moreso, since they seem to be more woven into the general gameplay and not just included in every deck of any given class because of how powerful they are.

The caveat on that is that C'Thun seems to be the only genuinely competitive one that I've seen so far, so that's where most of my positive reaction has been arising. The difficulties around Yogg's turn ending and the Deathrattle requirement of N'Zoth make them much more limited in use than C'Thun. I haven't seen any effective plays of Y'Shaarj (I think I only saw him played twice?) but, again, his requirement to actually get Immune makes his use much more narrow than C'Thun and beneficial for fewer classes (the ones that can attack.)

Nothing seems particularly "broken" but the omnipresence of Crystalline Golem isn't encouraging. Rune Wraith was a staple in control decks in a far more aggressive environment and it didn't heal its controller. When Golem is even showing up in aggro-y midrange decks like Mech Hunter, I think it's a problem.

DK: Still only two ways to play the class: all-out Unholy aggro with zero new cards or Blood control of some type. It was Herald or Egg. Now it's full triple Blood with Bloodfiend and G'huun. I realize that's because the class is getting two class sets and that's where new, more interesting Unholy cards and any Frost cards whatsoever are presumably appearing, but it's still disappointing.

DH: Seems too complicated for its own good. Wormridden Wriggler is great for aggro but the payoff card in Broodqueen still seems to require too many elements to pull off in time to actually win the game. Nothing else seems that exciting.

Druid: Most of the Beasts seem to match right up with Attack Druid. I've seen multiple instances of double-digit attack thanks to buffed Primordial Bears. Not a whole lot of help for other decks, though and I think the continued flow of direct damage (Aetherial Kindling) is veering away from its traditional (ahem) roots.

Hunter: Mech Hunter has seemed both solid and fun, especially Mechacycle and Tank Regiment. I've been unimpressed by Mimiron so far and have yet to see anyone play Kronn. I'm still not sure that even the amount of DR in this deck makes N'Zoth genuinely competitive, though.

Mage: Discs of Norgannon and Cosmic Springs have seen a lot of play and effective play, too. Icebelt Magi follows into that but still seems kind of limited. The rest that I've seen has been pretty meh, including Isiset (as predicted.)

Paladin: Control Paladin is back and is, like DK, clearly the only competitive way to play the class. Rajh can be broken with the right hits and Amitot, likewise, is usually amazing. Halls of Origination and Sun's Reckoning are both as good as expected but, again, only in control. Midrange and Dude decks basically got nothing workable from this set.

Priest: Likewise, Shadow Priest is for real. The Blade alone makes the deck viable but will probably increase the presence of Vipers so much that its impact will be less than predicted. Zer'Ontu is as bad as Tras'tath, if not worse.

Rogue: All of the Rogue stuff kinda fell flat in the streams I watched. All of it just requires too much combination with other cards for too little effect. This was most obvious with the two Hero Power cards, Tunneler and Swarmer. Sure, it's cool if you can drop three 6/6s on the board thanks to Unknowable One, but if they just produce a 1/1, a Healing Totem and ping something for 1 damage at that point of the game, your opponent just kills you next turn, anyway, which is exactly what I saw happen, more than once.

Shaman: C'Thun Shaman could be absolutely dominant. I watched more than one stream where it was easy to get all of C'Thun's abilities played by turn 6 or 7 with simply Earthmother and one cast of Watch Over. Then you have to draw C'Thun, of course, but you can do a lot of work even without him. Scorchfist Scholar may be the best card in the whole set. I still don't think Elemental decks will be a thing, even though Crystalline Golem is one, but C'Thun Shaman will make waves.

Warlock: is the class that least needed assistance and, like DK and Paladin, is still in a single mode of operation: control. The Rituals and Kith'ix are great and are, again, slanted toward C'Thun. I didn't see anyone even attempting the nominally Zoo cards like Mawman, Zakajz, Mindrot Subjugator and Floating Lessons, which is disappointing, as Zoo used to be one of my favorite decks.

Warrior: The armor stuff all seemed intimidating, not least because of the insane card draw of Animator of Iron, but just as often I saw players either burning cards or putting themselves in fatigue, if not both, because of Animator. Likewise, Setesh seems impressive but he's basically a War Golem and two turns is a long time for your opponent to eliminate that 20 armor and make him just a War Golem. Also, it might've been a bug, but every time I saw Archaedas played, the spell was Anvil of Reshaping, so they gained +4 attack after they'd already attacked.

Anyway, looks more encouraging than recent sets. We'll see.

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I remember back in the old old days when control war and zoo lock were big that sometimes a person would indeed withold a certain card/bait removals ect. This was before the acquasition.

After hitting top 800 this season the only thing i feel changed is.. well.. the thought of playing cards with any reasoning at all.

With my unholy dk deck i just sat there any played whatever used all my mana, won some, lost some. No real oppertunity to misplay, no decision making.

I mean whats the difference between me and anyone else in this regard? Is someone considered worse if they forget to attack with a minion? Something basic? I couldve trained a monkey to get legend with this deck.

Im just confused as to why this could be regarded as a competitive card game in any way. Unless to competition is simply.. having the cards.

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The Combo

You can get around Yogg's new Battlecry by summoning him without playing him from hand. In Priest, you can do that with Caelia Menethil, who resurrects your highest-cost minion that died this game. When you rez Yogg, he doesn't end your turn, so you can immediately activate two of his abilities.

We can do this multiple times by summoning a copy of him. Priest can easily do this with Schism. We don't even need to un-shatter it—we just need the copy half.

But it gets better! One of Yogg's abilities makes your next spell cast twice, and we can activate two Yogg abilities per turn. So, we can play Caelia for 6 mana, activate Yogg's double-cast, then play Schism for 4 mana. Now, we've got three Yoggs that can each immediately throw a Pyroblast at our opponent's face, for a 10 mana 30 damage OTK.

Potential Problems

This combo has a few potential problems.

First, Our Lord and Savior Yogg has to actually die in order to be resurrected. Our opponents can prevent his glorious return with Hex or Cursed Chains. And we can't just play him then kill him ourselves, because when you play Yogg, Yesus takes the wheel.

Or can we? Yogg's Battlecry also gives you another turn. If we have 11 mana from Ysera, we can play Doomsayer, then play Yogg. At the start of the bonus turn, Yogg will immediately die—along with the opponent's entire board. His prophet foretells his return: the end is coming!

The other problem is that, even with Doomsayer, Yogg might use our combo pieces on the bonus turn. He could play Caelia or transform our Schisms into random spells that cost 3 more.

I don't actually have a solution for this. But hey, what's a Yogg deck without a little risk?

Variations

Against Thief Priest or an opponent with some armor, we can do a 40 damage OTK for 14 mana by casting an additional copy of Schism. Just make sure the first one isn't recombined, so Yogg doesn't become Elusive and therefore untargetable by the second copy.

In theory, we can get yet more copies of Yogg by giving him Reborn with Haunt and copying him with Specter Specialist. We could even blow up our own Yogg with Slime 'Em, then on a future turn, resurrect him with the Ectoplasm for only 3 mana. Maybe you put both versions in your deck for redundancy. These are good cards, anyways, considering we'll probably run Soothsayer.

I'm not sure if this is actually competitive. Control Priest looked solid in the theorycraft stream. And copying/resurrecting Old Gods will probably be powerful, because that was powerful with Titans. But putting Doomsayer in your deck does sound like a meme.

The better version of this deck might just play C'Thun instead. You don't get the double cast, but Caeliea + Schism makes two C'Thuns that can both deal 21 to all enemies. They can each deal 15 to a minion first to potentially clear the path for an OTK.

But the advantage of the Yogg version is that you get to Praise Yogg.

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Just hit legend yesterday doing this same technique.

You need an aggro deck, dont do highroll, look for something consistent (like unholy dk)

I did this last season with quest hunter as its actually consistent if you just focus on the quest, so it doesnt have to be aggro but aggro is faster.

Whats important is, does the deck accomplish its goal with every card draw?

Next, get to diamond 2, this is the hardest part, its just a grind really.

Then leave 10 games after you play the first card, regardless of your hand.

The games arithmitic will try to balance your outcomes to ensure your winrate isnt too heavily decided by bad luck, and youll get a winstreak.

If you can hit diamond 1 before you do the 10 leaves you can get top 100 legend this way but its unlikely to get diamond 1 in the first place.

The Reign of the Black Empire theorycrafting streams are happening this week, starting today for NA/LATAM/EMEA streamers. What are your initial impressions of the expansion? What decks/archetypes look good, and which ones don’t?

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