With the announcement that Arc is being permanently discontinued, it’s time people woke up to the massive wave of Arc clones flooding the market. Who hasn’t come across countless Arc alternatives by now? I’m not going to talk about Dia, because in my opinion, it’s nowhere near being a worthy replacement for Arc. I’m talking about all the others. There are so many I couldn’t even name them all, but just to give you a few examples: Aside, Crest, Flow, Firn, Yab and so on.

Most of these aren’t built by experienced developers, but by people who’ve put these projects together using Claude. That’s hardly reassuring. But the real issue here is security. Are you seriously willing to trust amateurs with your browsing data? Your browser is the first line of defense for your personal information, whether it’s your banking details, work accounts, social media, or private data. Don’t hand all of that over to browsers that can’t guarantee your security.

On top of that, some of these people are just doing it as a hobby, and others don’t even seem to know why they’re building a browser in the first place. The risk is that they abandon their projects, leaving you with the same frustration Arc users are now experiencing. Just look at Firn, which has announced that it will no longer receive Windows updates. It’s a perfect example of why you shouldn’t blindly trust these projects to deliver the expertise, commitment, and security you need.

There are plenty of solid alternatives to Arc. You’ve got the excellent Zen Browser, Vivaldi, and even Brave. With a few visual tweaks, you can get some great results without compromising on reliability.

I hope this makes people think twice before choosing their next browser instead of getting carried away by these Arc Clowns—oops, sorry, Arc Clones!

Feel free to share your thoughts and suggest other serious alternatives. Let’s keep the discussion respectful!

Top contenders

Ardia: closest to Arc in feel, looks and features

uBlock Origin built in (MV2 extension support)

Built on Chromium

Fast and simple

Tangent Browser (alpha): most promising for looks, feel and Arc’s main features

Built on Chromium

Supports MV2 extensions, including uBlock Origin

Helium Browser (beta): most mature of all of them

Open source

Built on Chromium

Supports MV2 uBlock Origin

Other Arc-style options

Yab Browser (beta)

Built on WebKit

Has all the main Arc features

Crest Browser (beta)

Built on Chromium and WebKit

Developer-focused

Yelqen Browser (beta, very new)

Built on Chromium

Open source, aimed at developers

Lightweight

Search by Office Common

Built on WebKit

Extremely lightweight, built for macOS

Supports Chrome extensions

Agentic (Dia-style)

Polar Browser (beta): agentic, same idea as Dia

Aside AI (beta): agentic, same idea as Dia

Possibly discontinued

Ora Browser: seems to be discontinued already

Most promising overall

Helium and Search by Office Common have the most promise out of all of them.

Helium: open source, built on Chromium, supports MV2 uBlock Origin, and the most mature of the bunch

Search: lightweight, built on WebKit, supports Chrome extensions, open source

Thanks for everything 🙏

https://www.diabrowser.com/

https://zen-browser.app/

https://crestbrowser.com/

https://yetanotherbrowser.com/

https://aside.com/

https://officecommun.com/search

https://firnbrowser.com/

https://github.com/dr-baker/Arcium-browser

https://clickbrowser.app/

https://systembionic.com/ortix

https://flow-browser.com/

https://argusbrowser.io/

https://browsewithnook.com/

Any others missing from the list?

(I posted this earlier in ArcBrowser subreddit, but moderators there removed it 🤷)

just kinda wanna try different things out for the sake of it. browser hopping like im distro hopping on linux.

I like everything that Helium offers in terms of battery, RAM efficiency and general performance (CPU and graphics) - (base M4 13" MacBook Air - 16GB RAM). I also use it on my Windows PC but that's less important and primarily for gaming anyways.

HOWEVER, I especially adore the Frameless Mode. It's my favourite feature and I wish it were present in more browsers, even mainstream ones like Chrome and Safari.

(you can skip this para im just complaining about Safari) Yes, I'm aware that the most ideal browser for a Mac and macOS is Safari. I was hooked to it for a bit, but was ultimately tired of the classic Apple limitations - extensions and customisability wise. There was also things that broke down a bit, like my screen timing out on streaming sites despite actively playing a video (this does not happen on Chromium or Fox-based browsers), and cmd + Q not having a warning. I could go on about Safari, but ultimately I just don't want to use it.

In terms of extensions, I keep it pretty minimal. Obviously uBlock Origin (FULL) but if the browser has a built in blocker that is just as robust and equal to uBO, I'm totally fine with that.

I do not like accounts. I don't know what the general consensus is on this sub about them. I know in most browsers they can be ignored but I generally dislike their presence. Basic profiles like the one present in Helium are acceptable :)

I like heavier customisability, especially in something like the toolbar. I don't really like how the "Install x" is built into every tab in Chromium (when you're using something like YouTube or even reddit), same with the little Chromium media player that I hate since macOS Sequoia also already phas one built in, which I also don't need.

Used a very minimal browser list in my life, as I've usually been RAM fortunate enough to afford something like Chrome. I was sort of un-appealed by Vilvaldi tbh, and Thorium too.

I've used LibreWolf as well, exclusively on Windows. I've found there's a point where security goes over the line and sometimes the lack of cookies is annoying when I'm constantly having to sign in or redo site preferences. I'm not really for built-in password storage or anything, but just general intuitiveness is what I deem important. Graphical acceleration is also quite important for me, which thankfully works quite well on Helium.

Open to look into maybe more Fox-based and Apple WebKit browsers? On the WebKit side I have my eyes on Orion.

Open to any suggestiosn based on these preferences! TL;DR
a frameless mode
uBlock Origin compatibility
graphical acceleration
no accounts!
a level of customisability

open to any base (Chroium, WebKit, Fox)

To be clear I have looked at a LOT and have dismissed many. Open to any questions also!

Hi guys! I just moved to another country that I unfortunately do not know the language very well, so I am in need of a broswer with very good translation. I have used chrome and safari before as I was not into browsers on IOS that much. I do not really care about syncing to windows, as I am using Helium. I am currently using Google itself because the translation option that pops up on top of the screen is really easy to use, good and fast imo, and it doesn't corrupt some pages like chrome; but Google itself is unfortunately not considered a browser.

TLDR; I am looking for a browser that has preferably auto translation or a simple and very fast click to translate style.

I know this subreddit is mainly for desktop browsers, but with the Arc browser coming to an end on mobile, specifically iOS, I really enjoyed that browser because it’s simple and has just one easy plus button in the middle of the screen. The way you switch between tabs is almost like the iOS app switcher, instead of just a screen of rectangles with all your tabs in a grid.

I’ve tried so many other browsers, but I really don’t like the Safari or Chromes. I don’t like a bar with a bunch of buttons and then a two by three grid of tabs. I want a nicely designed browser for iOS.

(I know that it has AI stuff, but I do not care for it.)

Not only is it MKBHD's favorite mobile browser, but it's mine too.

Is it also dead, is Dia Mobile coming?

I hate this company as much as y'all do, but I love the Arc Mobile app way too fucking much, and I really don't want to have to vibe code a replacement and figure out how to get it onto iOS.

So I'm peacefully going about my day and saw something about "xyz ad blocker has stopped working" thought nothing of it till the ads came flowing.

Literally NO ad blocker works anymore for Samsung Internet and I've literally tried every single one and they all basically have the same format.

At this point I'm starting to think they are just copys of each other with a new logo slapped on it.

Which is funny because how are you going to be a browser, have recommended ad blockers and nothing works.

I use firefox but I want to know these other one
original post:

https://www.reddit.com/r/browsers/comments/1xckt4s/how_i_see_the_browsers_world_right_now/

I used Chrome years ago, then switched to Brave about 5 years ago. After using Brave daily for 5 years, I’ve completely lost interest in it. The constant UI/UX bugs, the bloat, and their relentless "Web3-first" push—instead of focusing on actual user experience—finally drove me away. Honestly, everything good about Brave comes from Chromium itself, not Brave’s own additions.

Speaking of bugs, a recent update on macOS left the window corners completely squared off instead of rounded. That’s just one example—I won’t even bother listing the rest because I'm just done with it. That’s why I moved to Helium.

Meanwhile, Firefox is seriously underrated. Even though its Speedometer 3.1 score is on the lower side, it’s not slow at all. In fact, in my daily use, it actually feels faster than Brave. Its main issue is battery drain on media-heavy sites. For instance, playing videos with danmaku (bullet comments) on Bilibili spikes CPU usage way higher than Chromium. I see similar issues with Steam and even the Helium homepage. If Firefox could optimize its GPU performance and manage CPU core usage more efficiently (avoiding unnecessary P-core spikes), it would be perfect for me.

As for Helium, it’s basically Brave without the bloat or brave should be—simple, clean, and no annoying UI bugs. I’m keeping an eye on it. Right now, I use it as a backup whenever Firefox eats too much battery, but once they add iOS sync, I’ll definitely be using it much more.

I used to be sick of all the Firefox preaching. But after actually daily-driving it, I can get it—it’s the GOAT, genuinely built for humans, and essential for the open web.

What I love most is the total freedom: full UI customization, best-in-class uBlock Origin support, and buttery-smooth horizontal tab scrolling.

...is that the majority of them end up sounding like a proxy attack against the majority of Chromium forks. Manifest V2 deprecation? Yeah, that's a proxy-attack against security-focused forks like Trivalent that turned off the MV3 workarounds before Google Chrome did. It tells other teams that if they don't try to fight tooth and nail to keep MV2 despite the issues with the API, then they're "a bad browser" equally to Chrome in these people's eyes. Even the few that kept it past Chrome are admitting they can't keep it forever and building a post-MV2 roadmap that works for their model. Except...Ungoogled Chromium and Helium. UGC, plain and simple, are delusional to think they can retain MV2 support forever.

When Helium's team was asked what they were going to do after MV2 goes away, Wukko handwaved it away by linking an Ungoogled Chromium patch, and dumbmoron said "i would not consider one use case of MV2 as a replacement for MV2" to someone suggesting a native adblock engine. NO POST-MV2 ROADMAP. This indicates that UGC/Helium has no plan, and therefore will go the way of Cromite in becoming abandonware and a security risk to run, even beyond the Trivalent/SecureBlue lens of extreme privsec purism.

If your argument against Chrome is the Manifest V2 thing, as if MV3 adblock doesn't work fine, that is a proxy-attack against *EVERY** Chromium fork that isn't UGC/Helium, because even Brave admits they can't maintain MV2 forever.* If you can use uBlock Origin Lite fine on another browser, you can on Chrome. What on earth is the difference? I see people on this sub get downvoted for admitting they use an ad blocker on chrome...they work just fine, wtf do you mean -5 votes for that comment?

Then there's the argument of RAM usage. Sadly, the entire web is RAM heavy and poorly optimized. The GTA 6 website in particular takes 3 gigabytes of RAM to load on its own. But Chromium's memory management is markedly superior to Gecko's, especially with its in built "Memory Saver". If you want that functionality in Gecko? Yippee, EXTENSIONS! More and more useful stuff is being relegated to a third party on the Mozilla side while Chromium has a lot of it built in.

You want to block websites on the browser-level? Firefox has extensions. Chromium has a URLBlocklist policy. Policies are cleaner and require no extra code.

Zen or Dia or something else?

The Issue

I've noticed that Cromite has fallen several major versions behind the stable Chromium release base. This started a couple of months ago when regular updates stopped. To make matters worse, the last time I checked, their F-Droid repo was down.

This is by far my favorite browser on Android, and I have tried quite a number, including:

Brave

Firefox Nightly

DuckDuckGo Browser

Fennec

Samsung Internet

My Next Move?

I have been thinking about moving to Samsung Internet as my everyday browser purely out of convenience, seeing as I have a Samsung phone and the browser is now available on Windows.

Questions for the Community:

1. Is anyone else noticing this with Cromite, or is there a new repository I missed?

2. If you left Cromite recently, what did you switch to?

3. For those using Samsung Internet across Android and Windows, how has the syncing and performance been?

With the recent news about Arc being sunset, why don’t we just reverse engineer it?

I’m serious. With AI agents and recent reverse-engineering tools, I think we can literally reverse engineer Arc and continue building it as an open-source browser.

Not another alternative that sort of looks like Arc. Arc itself, reverse engineered and maintained by the community instead of depending on a company that’s moved on.

I’m not saying it would be a weekend project, but I think people underestimate what’s possible with the tools we have now.

i have been using Opera for years now, and i dont know why people hate it so much.

Anyway im going to fully clean my pc and want to maybe try a new browser. What do you recommend? Brave as been on the list for some time since everybody is crazy about it.

I just installed YAB because I'm trying to switch from Arc, and I've noticed that the tabs and sidebar look a lot more pleasing on the website than they do in the actual app.

Is this a glitch, or is there a way to fix this through settings or an extension? Or do I just have to live with it?

Every time I clicked a product on AliExpress, I’d land on a “Bundle deals” page pushing me to add more stuff to my cart instead of just showing me the thing I clicked on. So I built Bundle Buster.

Click a product as usual and, if AliExpress sends you to a bundle deal page, the extension skips it and opens the regular product page. That’s it. Nothing to configure, no account.

If you have suggestions or find a page where it doesn’t work, let me know. And if it saves you some clicks, a rating on the store helps a lot!

Chrome Web Store → https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/bundle-buster-skip-aliexp/eibjfjbonpngbmgnlcnpnanlgcnfgomb

Firefox → https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/bundle-buster-for-aliexpress/

Which one is best ? with their latest updates Bare seems really good so far, Vivaldi is a little bit laggy and buggy compared to the other 3, Aerium is like Titanium but with better UI and an Amoled theme. Titanium is the most stable.

Ok, so Arc is getting shutdown in december, and I'm now looking for a new browser. I have set my sight on Firefox for a long time, but always pushed the transition back due to my laziness, and Arc's shutdown is a good opportunity. And since Zen has a similar layout to Arc, I hasitate.

So here I am, asking you, what are the pros and cons ?

Wanted something lighter than Chrome that I actually control, so I built my own on Tauri and Rust using the system WebKit. Ad blocking is done in the engine with Brave's adblock-rust rather than an extension, there's Tor tabs built in, a password vault, and no telemetry at all. It's keyboard first, most things are a shortcut or the command bar

It also has an MCP server so coding agents like Claude Code can use it in their own background tabs, which is why I started it, but day to day it's just my browser

Mac only. It's paid, $19 one off with a 14 day trial: https://ibraryunus.com/apps/kinaya/

Would like to hear what you'd miss coming from Safari or Firefox