https://www.reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/1x83xe1/hardcore_servers_are_basically_deleting_our/

Came across this post trying to make fun of our reaction to Reignited

Say what you want but that community has been egging rs3 on for fucking years how we deserve what we get because we don't push back on Jagex's bullshit and we should just quit if we don't like it and vote with our wallet

But now its a "no not like that" situation when we actually do that and it happens to be something they want but we don't. And I guarantee if they tried to "reignite" OSRS they would also push back on it like we did

First off, The new crossbows look incredible. I had not expected a design at par with Ascensions or shadow/blood blights, yet these are able to hit that same level if not better. The Cruor outfit looks incredible with it.

Bug/Oversight: The message of Bak Bolts doing less damage is still there even though I have clearly upgraded it to t100 and bolts are t99. I do not like doing less damage, Pls fix.

I’m not sure if it’s a problem in more places I’ve really only tried one but I like to cut eternal magic trees in dusk mode, and often okay in dusk generally anyway, but when I go out and into the eternal magic area near pisc the skybox reverts to the default area one.

Hopefully that’s clear, if you have more info on this topic please do add it.

Now that reignited is cancelled (thank you!), I was wondering if radiant stars were still going to be removed from the store. It’s one of the last MTX things that do not benefit the game IMO. Is there any news on that?

As a osrs player my biggest gripe with rs3 is I have to stop my grind on one to play the other and we all hate to waste XP. If you want your game to grow don’t continue to penalize your potential player base. 4 years ago membership was $80 USD and a second or 3rd account with members was manageable, now it’s $132 a year, its time for a change. At this current hour 90,062 players are online RuneScape 76,2329 of which are on Old School. Maybe it’s time you looked into allowing us to play both games as advertised but at the same time. With the migration of all legacy accounts moving to a Jagex account why not implement a membership for the Jagex account itself at the current yearly rate and then a separate premium price for each additional “character slot” per year at an additional $20-$30 per year per character. This would bring in additional revenue for the company while satisfying the need for multiple accounts to play both games, additional game modes, and seasonal events. I’d love to play both games but unfortunately for myself and many others rs3 is an XP waste and we shouldn’t have to sacrifice our enjoyment of old school to play rs3.

Cant find a duo partner to help me learn. I need to get 1 KC at least for the reaper crew again. Anyone can help? I'm not great at PVM, but I watched some video guides.

I'm not able to try it alone and learn it either.

A lot of people are talking about MTX achievements blah blah blah but as a 20 year+ on and off veteran my only concern is consolidating the player base. There was absolutely no need to introduce a useless new game mode that would further fragment the playerbase. The new game mode no sense to me, it's the same main game mode but just a fresh start?

Why? Totally unnecessary and stupid. After a couple of years the economy in the new game mode would become the same as the older one and then you would have 2 copies of the same game mode running. If people are so concerned about MTX, why not just wipe out all MTX pets titles etc. from main accounts, clean out the bloated content and everyone's as good to go.

Who the hell cares about achieving something first? The average RuneScaper certainly does not. Most of the skills were 99'ed way back in the 2000s. I see most veterans debating over the most useless stuff, MTX boosted first achievments or what not. The fact is simple, no veteran is going to love a fresh start because RuneScape is a very time consuming and time demanding game.

If Jagex wants to fix something, they MUST fix it in the existing paradigm or if introducing a new game mode, it should at least have a gimmick, like how ironman is a solo-experience game mode.

I've always been someone who enjoyed pest control, it's been dead content for quite a while...but what if we revived or made something similar? Fight kiln, fight pit, and zuk are all horde mode type game modes..but theyre either tied to gear (like the capes) or only hard mode (in zuks case) gives some best in slot loot. But the enemy types of PC were really cool. And I feel like we could tie them into something like a abyss invasion, where you get better loot the higher levels you take down (similar to how sophanems dungeon works) and you can tie skill checks into it (both combat and gathering skills could be) i know its screaming into the void but i remember when EVERY one was doing that mini game

I submitted a report but with the new xbows coming into the game this knife would have been great to build up the bolt stack to use the xbows. Currently it never activates on any step relating to creating bak bolts.

Some context, I primarily played OSRS for the past like 8 years and truth be told a huge fan of Leagues. I tried RS3 a few times in the past with my old account but always felt lost and aimless. Anyways, Leagues 1 was neat and had me starting to lurk RS3 content. Especially with that Road to Restoration project that was announced. Leagues 2 came around and I found myself having more fun but falling into those same pitfalls of just not really knowing what I was doing. But the game was fun, and then I saw the plugin API change. Which as a Runelite user was like “Oh awesome this is a great chance to give the game a try again!”.

Anyways I waited for the official release for the plugins and of course a certain game mode was announced and suddenly I was torn. It sounds like it was something made to really dig into the game, but we know how that story came and gone. That’s beside the point, I still want to give the game a try and the idea of making a new character still sounds like a perfect way to genuinely try to play and learn the game.

So, I convinced a friend with a max account to start fresh with me and we were thinking a group Ironman. Makes sense that it’ll force me to learn the game and not rely too much on the GE. This is where my title comes into play. Plugins come out Monday and that is honestly such a huge positive that I was thinking of starting F2P and just using that to build an account foundation. But would that disqualify me from the December free mem? Or should I wait for Dec 2nd and jump in when Jagex implements all the huge changes they have set to help players like me get into the game?

What do you guys think? Appreciate the answers.

To start with im a former player who quit after the introduction of EOC but has made a few unsuccessful attempts to get back into the game over the years since and for transparencies sake ive played a fair amount of OSRS since its release.

I was pro reignited, not because the game had MTX and the hiscores are somehow tainted because of this. Not because i think the game needs a fresh economy, my main reason for wanting reignited was that i want to be able to play in a world that feels alive. The game sadly doesnt offer this currently. The world just feels empty and for lack of a better word dead, i want to be out in the world seeing other people working on the same things im working on.

Now i dont think reignited would be a permanent solution for the world feeling dead as people would gradually progress out of these areas but, its ultimately up to Jagex to take advantage of having the world looking and feeling alive and continuing to draw fresh players into the game so it doesnt revert back to how it is now.

It seems there was quite a bit of genuine interest in people actually giving the game a chance again and with the cancellation of reignited theres now a lack of hype or draw to bring those new or returning players in. A lot of these potential returning players now have a sour taste in their mouth over the treatment they've received over that past couple week just for sharing a differing view in being excited for reignited. All the put your money where your mouth is and try the game if you were interested in reignited posts just come across as gloaty and condescending.

I think now would be a good time to start talking compromise instead of gloating that you won one over on OSRS players somehow. Veteran player got what they wanted in reignited being cancelled but why couldnt Jagex pivot and do fresh start worlds that merge with the main game in lets say 1 year? This obviously wouldnt be as popular as reignited with the fresh economy etc but i do think it would fix what i think is the biggest issue in the world feeling empty.

I also think the addition of say sub 1k total level world and 1.5k total level world would help to keep players in similar parts of the game around eachother. There seems to be plenty of worlds that even 1 of each of these can be put aside for each region.

It wouldnt take all that many people sticking around to make a noticeable difference in the numbers the game is pulling its at what 20-25k concurrent currently, yes i know concurrent isnt total players but it is what you see when you're in game so its important cause thats whats going to make the game feel alive while playing it.

Anyway thanks for reading i would just like some friendly discussion about what you think the next move should be.

(grammar is a mess i was rambling)

Fits the tone of burthorpe imo

Basically anything that wouldn't have given you an immediate head start. Only things such as increased bank space, pets, wardrobe items, (holiday) event items, etc.

No doubt a large factor behind people being opposed to Reignite is that if they did want to start and main a Reignite account, they'd have to ditch potentially hundreds of dollars worth of runecoin purchases, a bunch of historical event items they can no longer get, or pets that took them a long time to obtain (or money to buy).

I think if these things were made Jagex-account-wide or at least sharable with their Reignite account people would've been a lot more receptive to the idea. They'd have still had to give up their levels and items, but you can get those levels back. You can not get the runecoins back, or the holiday event items back, or any other discontinued item, etc. back

I used to play on a WoW server that had cross-realm cosmetic and QoL unlocks. It also ran on a seasonal cycle and starting over on those seasonal realms didn't feel bad because you knew that anything non-power related you unlocked in that season you kept forever, even in the new seasons. The overarching rewards you got still carried over.

So if you were against Reignite, imagine a scenario where you got to copy your account as a Reignite account but with only the things relating to power (levels, weapons, gear, resources, quests, etc) being reset. All cosmetics kept. All account unlocks kept. Would you still have been as fearful of Reignite?

Tips too kill these effectively going for raptor key have high level magic and necro gear revo bar suggestions anything would be great and appreciated!

There seems to be a misunderstanding about what achievement means within RuneScape 3, as developed by Jagex over the last decade.

There is no doubt that MXT has ruined the concept of high scores; this has been known within the community for a long time, both by players and Jagex.

I can understand why a fresh high score would appeal to people coming from OSRS, since high scores are a BIG part of that game; for example, OSRS has dozens of high-score lists for almost everything. RS3 doesn't, and that is because Jagex has moved away from as a benchmark of "Achievement"

The title system was introduced in 2009; this simple system has become one of the main ways Jagex rewards people with a sense of achievement.

Almost every piece of content released comes with a list of new titles: did you green-log Corp well? Now you have a way to show that off; did you push a boss to 4,000% enrage? There's a way to show that off.

Some of these titles have fewer than 1,000 confirmed users.

When RS3 players say high score doesn't matter, it's because Jagex has moved the game away from them as a sense of pride.

Clearly Jagex have been trying to push new game modes the last few years to increase the amount of membership revenue in leu of the MTX removal on Runescape. My proposal, now that osrs is adding new skills and reworking old ones, I think it's a good time to release 2007 era servers. I would genuinely be happy to pay another membership fee on top of my main to play the OG servers as they were before the last 13+ years of bloat. Currently there's no way to truly experience the game as it was back then without playing on illegal private servers.

I mainly play Runescape rather than osrs, but if a TRUE osrs experience was available I would absolutely love to play it.

Thinking surely I'm not the only one haha? Would love to hear others thoughts!

Probably the most annoying bug I’ve seen, and it’s persisted for months (at least now). If you hold over an ability on mobile, you can’t actually read all the text. Submitted a bug report, but I hope someone can see it here and patch it quick, it’s been driving me crazy

I'm not sure if this is the right place or how to ask, but here goes.

I don't know the first thing about making an integrated plugin with a game, but I do know Python and using APIs.

I built this little tool for myself doing archaeology on my GIM as a pet project. Everything here was pulled using the RSwiki API resources for python. That said, all of this is client-side and as such cannot access the player's material storage and do checks in that way.

With the right help is this something I can make into a plugin, and would people even find it useful? I imagine there are way better skilled hands at making something else for tracking arch, but I think this was interesting to build and has been useful to me personally.

EDIT: It has full functionality for every current digsite. Arma 1 is the demo case.

Aside from the furniture plans, which don't appear to be new designs at all. Just want to make sure I'm not missing something. Always loved a new halloween outfit.

At the end of the day, the game has been and will forever be tainted by egregious MTX. That is why it struggles to attract new players. Nobody wants to legitimise the “achievements” of players who may have bought their way to the end game.

Even if Reignited was a bad idea, RS3 will struggle to acquire new players. The whole “just try it and see if you like it” mindset is a desperate attempt and giving people 10 days of a trial will do nothing.

I searched Runescape and all I find are videos so proud that reignition is gone. It's all the drama and no content. This game strives on content. Can we move forward?

As an MMO player with multiple decades of MMO experience and thousands of hours spent I have never seen a group of people more hellbent on dissuading people from trying their game. The reaction to the announcement of reignited was extremely overblown by the vocal community and content creators that represent this game that a Jmod felt the need to speak out about it and the communities response has been to shift blame to the OSRS community or to Jagex themselves.

I played RuneScape when I was a kid, I stopped at EOC and microtransactions. I wanted to try reignited but honestly I do not have any interest in this game regardless because this community is toxic and uninviting. You all talk about how you want more players because your game is fun and then shit on anyone who wants to try it in a glorified group iron man.

For what it’s worth, I do play OSRS and honestly I know the communities don’t mix often but this is just dumb. I’m not a bad person because I like a different game than you and i never thought anything wrong of you.

I'm currently experiencing a bug with Luminous Snagglers where their special attack projectiles don't show up at all, leaving only the AoE shockwaves when they finally land. I understand this is an old bug, so I'd like to know if there's a way to fix/get around it.

EDIT: To head off some expected questions, I've tried swapping from default renderer to vulkan beta, and also to Compatibility Mode, with no change happening. My drivers are up to date, as well

That way the player can have better control over their health bar, allowing higher skill ceiling plays. Just a shower thought btw.