Can someone explain to me why so many watchers of breaking bad hate Skyler with a burning passion? Every time I see a video on tiktok or youtube I always see someone despising skyler.

What I don’t understand is, Walt is clearly the villain, he has dozens of negative qualities. He is manipulative and greedy, he poisoned Brock (a child) and he literally mass manufactured meth, he was terrible to skyler more and more as the seasons went by and despite walt definitely being the bad guy, most of the hate is projected onto skyler because she cheated with Ted or gave money to him.

This doesnt make a whole lot of sense to me because her cheating was clearly a desperate attempt to force walt out of the house by emotionally wounding him enough and letting herself regain some sort of control when walt refused to accept a divorce and would not leave the house (despite skyler being 100% entitled to these conditions, he is literally running a drug empire?) most people will run up this argument with “but walt made meth for the sake of his family she should be grateful.” if it wasnt implied enough throughout the show, walt literally admits he didnt even make meth for any loving or caring reason, but out of greed. He made meth because he liked it .

Skyler was an emotional wreck by the time she cheated and gave money to Ted, which to me is so easily understandable, (again, her husband is running a drug empire) and her decisions to do the things she did were clearly irrational as a result of Walts abuse. To those who see Skyler as a villain, what did you expect her to do? Sit quietly while her husband commits hundreds of life sentences worth of crimes? I don’t use this term a lot, but it’s clearly just misogyny When all of Walts clear violations are forgotten about and the blame is placed on Skyler.

Does anyone else hate Walter the entire way through? Right from the start, he's a despicable, manipulative narcissist.

And​ people still hate on Skyler more.

I first watched it at 16 and he's a very unlikable character, at 22 I still think that.

I remember seeing children’s toys in Gus Fring’s house. From what I recall it’s the first time we see his home. What up wit dat?

Just part of the ruse? A storyline that was to have him be a father or grandfather but changed? Production oversight?

And I never understood the hate towards her either.

I thought she was a brilliant character - starting out as a total stereotype and gradually progressing over the series to become more nuanced, complex, powerful, sharp, etc overtime.

More people seem to be coming around to team Skylar these days and I just wonder what the hate for her was to start with.

Am I missing something or was it literally just misogyny?

This contains the main characters, and side characters that I remembered. It's based on how much I like them, how I would interact with them, and I also make sure if they're a bad influence, or dangerous.

I watched it when it was ending because it was super hyped up, but never fully grasped the fools hue and deep themes.

Differences I noticed:

How big of an operation they were running (Gus and Cartel) and how serious it was . How much planning goes into it (I manage a business now) so I can see the pressures

How depressing it is. The cancer , the deaths, the addiction (which I’ve been through) and how much pressure it would be to have that much money that’s not clean. Hiding it from your family and just wanting to be alone . I could go more in depth but this show is super heavy and depressing when you watch as an adult because you can feel for everyone .

I used to hate Skylar , but I realized she was in the right. If I did what Walter did , my wife would kill me for dissapearing . Then throwing the meth money on her to launder , if I was her I would be pissed of bringing this toxicity into the family .

How much I appreciate Saul Goodman. He’s genuinly a good guy even if it’s for money he sticks up for his clients.

How successful Gus was at operations. I am an operations manager here and I can compare and contrast even though it’s drugs and revenue in the millions per day

Tedbeneke and the taxes , never understood but I do now.

And lastly , how I absolutely hate Walter white . When they brought Jesse into Gus inner circle and brought him in top level emissions , Walter was so jealous and throwing temper tantrums like a kid. Be a man bro , stop manipulating Jesse for your own benefit. Figure it out yourself . You messed up and you have to make up for it .

It broke my heart to the point it was unbearable when Jesse would go on a mission and get praised , then come back to Walt degrading him for not killing Gus. Like Bro, do it yourself. Not only that it’s not easy. I truly hate Walter and think he’s such a p*ssy idc how tough he is he acts like a girl. Definitely worst character.

If he would’ve just stuck with gale and made a bunch of money and been peaceful but would’ve worked together to take care of the cartel business when they wanted a chemist . All those things . Walter ruined everything like a loser .

Como é interessante assistir breaking bad depois de mais velha, assisti essa série quando era pré adolescente e era o maior hype, eu gostei, a qualidade e escrita sempre foram impecáveis mas eu nunca fui muito fã obcecada. Agora com praticamente 25 anos estou reassistindo e realmente nunca vi uma série tão bem produzida, com detalhes e diálogos tão bem pensados. Hoje reassistindo tenho opiniões muito diferentes sobre tudo e todos, e eu não me lembrava de muita coisa.
Principalmente o fato de odiar praticamente todas as mulheres na época que eu assistia, e olha eu sou mulher, acho que quando eu era adolescente eu deveria ser meio idiota mesmo hahaha skyler e marie foram super esposas, eu detestava a marie mas agora vendo o quão paciente ela foi com o hank me admira, e hoje em dia eu realmente gosto da skyler e o hate em cima dela é absurdamente injustificável. Hoje em dia também realmente não sinto pena do jesse, ele fez viciados recaírem diversas vezes (a namorada dele de franjinha e os amigos depois) o que para mim é desprezível, quando a jane morreu eu fiquei com muita dó do pai dela e todo o enredo depois é de partir o coração. Estou começando a quarta temporada agr e to bem animada.

Supongamos que walt le hubiese dicho a gretchen "yo me aparte de la empresa y me equivoque y la verdad esa decision me pesa teniendo en cuenta lo que nuestra investigacion iba a rendir en el futuro, solo les pido a ustedes que teniendo en cuenta el valor de la empresa me den un reconocimiento y 3 millones de dolares que para ustedes no es mucho y para mi me cambia la vida y la de mi familia. Creen que Gretchen y Elliot hubieran aceptado a esto?

Reached this episode on my rewatch...don't know how other people feel but this I thought was the first true 10/10 episode of S2.

We get so much insight into the psyche of Walt, and most importantly into Walt and Jesse as a duo. Their dynamic here was fleshed out more than in any other episode prior (for obvious reasons). And we also get to see things we already knew, but this time by bringing them completely onto the surface. The fact we see Walt facing the last leg of his existentialism - he's at the end of the road - really helps us take an actual peek into how he really feels after everything that's happened. In words, not just in his mind or in expressions.

And the ending being our very first outright confrontation with the fact that this wasn't all just for family, and more importantly - Walt WANTED to die. Because he wanted to go out on a high. Cook, set everything up for his loved ones, and go out on his own terms doing what he felt at home with, living dangerously and excitingly (as Hank once told him to), and being on top of the world.

But the concept of him surviving at the end is haunting for Walt. Its what really kills him. He cannot dare face going back to the "normal" life he once had NOW...after everything he's been through since then. That regular breakfast - school - dinner - sleep? That feeling of mediocrity? A sense of inadequacy? No. Thats what really kills him. And so the ending was him realizing: if he's faced with the prospect of survival...the only way for him to feel alive is he must go back to make a killing.

Just finished the show, obviously incredible, is it the consensus that Walt himself arguably had a happy ending. I know that obviously almost everything went south, but especially in his last conversation with Skyler, when he says I did it for myself. Is that not a kind of moment of freedom. Like no longer is it all for nothing(as he says to Walt jr in last phone call with him) but he done it and he loved the feeling it gave him, and the final look at the meth lab was proud, like reminiscing on all he had done. I mean baby blue is perfect. And he was destined to die regardless(probably but obviously didn't get proper chemo), and he avenges hank(to an extent) gets Lydia in the coldest way possible, sets junior and the family up for life(obviously maybe not Skyler due to dea), and dies with an almost smirk(or was I seeing things?)

Sorry if post is a little scruffy I just finished the show and am desperate to talk about it (please no spoilers for el camino or bcs)

He was supposed to be there for meet and greets + autographs. Was really excited to meet him actually.

Then well you know. Giancarlo was there, he was really nice and supportive but he kept glancing at the booth and the memorial display put up and you could tell it was affecting him.

Reach out and check on your friends people. You never know.