r/HonestHotTakes • • 18h ago

serious hot take women arent dressing for you and assuming so is crazy

356 Upvotes

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the constant assumption men seem to have that women are dressing for THEIR attention or interest is so bonkers insane to me.

I attend pilates, which are classes of all women. almost every woman wears the exact same thing there as she would in any other gym, some even dress slightly lighter/in tighter clothes than typical because they feel MORE comfortable in a closed area with only women. if women were dressing for mens attention, why would they be wearing the exact same outfits to workout with other women?

On top of that, why would women go to womens only gyms if they were apparently dressing for an excuse to be stared at? please think with your head and not your duck for 2 seconds, thank you


r/HonestHotTakes • • 8h ago

casual hot take The phrase “not all men but always a man” is sexist

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If u were to say this about any other group it would be considered derogatory.

Eg. Not all blacks but always a black person


r/HonestHotTakes • • 21h ago

casual hot take Vegan food doesn’t taste as good as regular food

6 Upvotes

I tried vegan meat and other vegan stuff once and it’s honestly not that good . Sure some people might say animals are being treated badly . But I think it would be better if we just improved their living conditions instead of completely getting rid of our natural nutrition. What do you think ?


r/HonestHotTakes • • 15h ago

casual hot take I think that dating is very clearly harder for men than it is for women and women use the worst case scenario to argue that it's harder for them, when it's also the least likely case.

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I'm not a misogynist or a red pill bro. I'm pretty pro-feminism. I think that life as a woman tends to be a bit more difficult. Like I as a man don't have to be careful walking home at night, I don't get catcalled, I don't have people assume incompetence because of my gender, there aren't laws being passed to prevent me from getting medical procedures or being drafted to stop access to contraceptives. But I do think the one part of life that they have that is easier is dating and pursuing romantic relationships.

In heterosexual dating dynamics, it is very much a feast v. famine when it comes to men who are widely appealing to women and men who are not. Most men tend fall into the famine category, so chances for romantic connections are sparse. I know that attraction is "subjective" but subjective doesn't mean randomized, and there are men who are widely appealing to most women. Genetically, men are built to be attracted to a much larger portion of women so there's a lot less women who experience the lack of attention that the typical man experiences.

Also with men having the typically take the role of initiator, you also have to make yourself the vulnerable one and make yourself open to rejection much more often. Men kind of just have to harden themselves to rejection whereas women don't really have to do that. It sucks, but it just is. As men, there's also a large amount of societal expectations, for men to invest a lot more emotionally and financially early on. Men usually don't have a roster of women, we have to devote our efforts to the one woman giving us a chance and impress her. Otherwise, we get pushed to the side for the next guy. It's like where job applicants and women are the hiring manager.

And don't get me wrong, when women say "men are worried about being embarrassed, women are worried about violence". That's not an untrue statement and it's a serious worry. But when it comes to dating, violence is the worst case scenario, it's not the typical or even a very likely scenario. It's not unrealistic, but it is also uncommon for a date to end in violence towards women. It's a lot more likely to happen in a committed long term relationship or by a friend/acquaintance than it is by a random guy you go on a date with, and when it is, again it is very rare. So I thinking using that as the sole justification on how it's harder for women is just not exactly very fair.


r/HonestHotTakes • • 7h ago

serious hot take The mods of this subreddit is biased against women

20 Upvotes

Any posts criticizing men is quickly removed. Meanwhile there’s at least 5 women hating vent posts on the front page. They allow politics when it’s shitting on women.


r/HonestHotTakes • • 19h ago

gender Expecting men to constantly look down in public places is unreasonably controlling

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To be clear: staring, leering, ogling, catcalling, whistling, etc at women are absolutely wrong. But expecting men to constantly keep their heads down, be glued to books, newspapers, screens on phones, or look at the ground in public to avoid glancing or normally coming across other people while looking around is unreasonably restrictive.

Especially in crowded public transportations, cities, places, areas, cafés, hotels, restaurants, stations, tourist attractions, and other public locations, it's practically impossible to avoid looking around when people of all genders are constantly moving, walking, sitting, driving and interacting around you.

Men shouldn't have to always be straining their necks, backs and eyes with their heads always down or glued to a screen on phones or reading books/newspapers or looking continuously on the ground pavement out of fear that normally looking around might be interpreted as harassment.


r/HonestHotTakes • • 6h ago

casual hot take You are largely responsibility for your dating pool

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First, the last thing I want this to devolve into is gender war slop. This applies equally to men and women.

If you find there are no hot, smart, ambitious, etc. people where you are... you have to ask why you are there. No Columbia law student is at a loss for brilliant, ambitious potential partners. No dedicated gym rat is struggling to meet physically attractive peers. Your city isn't lacking hot people. You just don't know them.

Now, I understand up until 18 you don't have a control over this. Fair. But after that... it is up to you to get out. You can't complain about the lazy townies if you are also a townie.


r/HonestHotTakes • • 5h ago

Being a successful man means respecting women and also not overly caring what they think

50 Upvotes

I'm fairly traditional. Not everyone will see things my way and that's fine. For myself I live by a pretty important set of rules regarding women.

Be gentle. Be respectful. Listen to what they say. Let what they say give me pause and think. Don't restructure my entire life around bending over backwards for them.

Yes, if it's within my power to not make a woman uncomfortable with a small gesture that doesn't inconvenience me too much? Why not be a good person and do it.

No, if the inconvenience is too high, I won't. My life does not revolve around making women (or men) comfortable.

Women should have a reasonable expectation of safety in our society. Not attacked, harassed, and the like. No, society does not owe them the absolute feeling of safety in public spaces.

Example. I'm walking down a road. It's evening. A woman is walking in front of me. Do I go to the other side of the street? Maybe I do. Maybe I don't. My life does not revolve around making this woman comfortable. I weigh my inconvenience against discomfort. Maybe I do sometimes if I have energy left at the end of the day to care. Maybe I don't if I don't. Will she go and talk about 'the creepy guy who stalked her'? Maybe. I will never see her again. What do I care.

I listen to women. In person and online. If there's small adjustments I can make, I make them. If there's demands for big adjustments, I consider and don't always make them. That's life.

Same for dating (for you unmarried dudes that are afraid to approach). Some women online say 'don't approach, she's trying to have a good time'. Some women say 'a respectful approach is fine'. I fall in the latter camp. Approach. If she gives a no, back the fuck off. If she goes home and tells a story about 'the creepy guy who approached' what do you care? You're not going to see her again. Any women who say 'don't approach' ignore. You're looking for a partner and your entire life does not revolve around making women the most comfortable they can possibly be. A respectful approach with a 'back the fuck off' on a rejection is acceptable.

Life is discomfort.


r/HonestHotTakes • • 15h ago

serious hot take if you watch the “teen” porn category you are a disgusting pedo and you would go younger than 18 if you were legally allowed to

64 Upvotes

i mean im not gonna type multiple paragraphs i said what i said but the older men who enjoy this type of porn are disgusting creeps and i think they would go for underage girls if it was allowed. i dont think any teen should be making porn content even 18 and 19 year olds and i feel like any teen who does that is being groomed. i searched “girls” on reddit trying to find a womens community and all the first things that popped up were porn subs, which is misogynistic on its own but the first one was “teen girls” lewd subreddit. do so many people seek that content that its the first thing to pop up? disgusting


r/HonestHotTakes • • 13h ago

Women aren’t better listeners

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Women aren’t actually better listeners. We tend to believe women are better listeners because of 2 things

1) They are better at actively showing they are listening, where men tend to be more quiet when listening
2) Men assume if you’re complaining it’s because you need solutions to your problem. This isn’t actually poor listening, just missing the cues a little bit.

Both men and women suck at listening equally.


r/HonestHotTakes • • 16h ago

Slight catfishing is normalized in women's dating profiles

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Let be real women are very good with phone cameras, filters, angles , etc...

They use all these tools and more I probably have never heard of to make there profiles as good as possible mostly to the point of completely representing a different person.

The amount of times a women looks so drastically different from their profiles are are numerous.

Versus men, who suck at all of these and will just take a selfie with the default settings of a phone camera, or a gym pic, or a pic with a fish in it.

Men will rarely play with these factors and just represent themselves normally, women will build an alternate self on these profiles and everyone just sorta accepts it.


r/HonestHotTakes • • 21h ago

casual hot take therapy is a waste of money

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First of all to say SOME people find therapy helpful but the dept of it is questionable. Most therapists nowdays have absolutely no understanding of human mind and im genuinely shocked how some of them can work. It makes sense tho from the people i knew the ones who went to college for psychology were the most shallow people i ever met. Their life was absolutely sunshine and rainbows, they r ignorant to other peoples problems, they were the ones who bullied kids who struggled w depression. After i saw that i finally got conscious that holy shi these people whatever profession they choose to work w other humans doesnt automatically make them a good person ( you tend to think that subconsciously ). If a person never felt on their own skin the same thing you’ve struggled w they will NEVER be able to understand you no matter how many schools they went through only if they got the brains which is like 0,00001% of people. Only thing you will get is some cliche quotes that you heard when u were 12, just them staring at you, and “its okay to feel that way” . Also mostly depends on iq level of a patient, if your therapist has lower iq than you yea it wont work. Some people have good therapist for themselves this post doesnt mean good therapist dont exist im mostly talking about this mass production of absolute useless ones who lack the brain for it . Also some people just wanna talk about their day and daily lives which is also chill.


r/HonestHotTakes • • 2h ago

hot take, harshly criticise me for it! If you only have well done steak, you should just not eat steak

1 Upvotes

Cow meat is one of the worst foods one can eat. Its absolutely terrible for the environment, way worse than basically everything else. It is also one of the worst for your health also. Therefore, I think it only makes sense to eat it if someone really loves it, is passionate about it.

People who asks their steak well done, do not like steak. Otherwise they wouldnt ask it well done. It matches with experience, people I know who have well done steak, normally dont care much for steak.

I believe people should be more thoughtful about their consumer habits. I dont think its reasonable to ask everyone to stop eating beef, as good as it might be for the environment, I know it wont happen. But, if you really dont care for steak that much, to the point of having it well done, its better to just accept how nonsensical it is and stop eating it.

I for example, dont care much for fashion, so Im not gonna use fur clothings and etc. There are a lot of foods that I dont eat, not purely because they are unhealthy, but because I dont care enough for them to justify it. People who dont care much for steak, should do the same. Its actually even more important, as it has a high carbon footprint

edit: The environment shouldn’t have to suffer just because you’re pretending to enjoy steak.


r/HonestHotTakes • • 18h ago

Guys seem to be more generous with bus seating than women.

11 Upvotes

The last few times I’ve been on a bus, there have been sets of 3 seats that are together (two sets of 3 seats). Each time, one set of 3 had a woman sitting on one of the seats and the other set of 3 a man. Each time, the man sat at a corner enabling other people to sit there while the woman sat at the center.


r/HonestHotTakes • • 11h ago

casual hot take When people say "real communism hasn't been tried" they mean hypothetical utopia

70 Upvotes

My last post that had generated a lot of good discussions was taken down because my title just said I didn't like something, which I'm told is not a hot take. So I'm rephrasing it to be the controversial opinion that the mods said it needed to be to stay up.

It seems like any time communism is brought up someone says "that wasn't real communism" or "real communism hasn't been tried."

Real is what happens in the real world. There has never been a communist country that lived up to to the hypothesis put forward by Marx of what communism would become. But a hypothetical communist country is by definition not a real one. Real is what happens in the real world, after the test to prove or disprove the hypothesis. You don't get to look at the real outcome and say "it doesn't match my hypothesis therefore it's fake." And we've had a lot of "experiments" in the 20th century.

It would be like someone saying "well we've never seen a country where zero government regulation led to free markets self regulating away all anti consumer practices, therefore real capitalism has never been tried." (yes, this is me also saying that "reap capitalism hasn't been tried" folks are wrong as well, by pointing out the absurdity of claiming capitalism is only when there is economic anarchy)

I mean, heck there's literally a fallacy called "no true Scotsman" about this. And yet I'm regularly told that communism is the most scientific, rational system ever.


r/HonestHotTakes • • 13h ago

hot take, harshly criticise me for it! As someone who is tall, these hot takes about high are genuinely annoying. Being tall isn’t some type of key to success.

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I’m 6’2 in case you wanted to know.

I’m not gonna lie and tell you to embrace your height or some shit. I’m just saying there are little benefits outside of dating for being tall, and maybe being intimidating if you have the body for it.

Being tall isn’t gonna fix yourself problems or get you chicks if you have the personality of incel and the body order of an orangutan.

stuffing your shoe isn’t gonna make you look cooler it looks goofy.

The main part I actually hate is two specific things outside of my whining:

Men with little man syndrome who get aggressive with tall men due to being insecure, they are way harder to calm down if you are tall.

And

Women who go around saying “If you’re under X height, don’t talk to me”. You can have a preference but you don’t have to be a jerk about it.

I legitimately don’t see the appeal of being tall at all, all i see if foreheads. Veiny fucking foreheads all day. I don’t see how it’s any more attractive or any more appealing.

EDIT: Knowing my height to the number makes it funnier when someone is lying about theirs irl.


r/HonestHotTakes • • 3h ago

This sub needs better mods.

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These mods are pissy. A great convo with nearly 50 comments about punching down removed. Who runs this sub? Hot take. They suck.


r/HonestHotTakes • • 10h ago

I find it weird when people whore themselves out and then say they want to end up marrying a virgin

2 Upvotes

If you end up marrying a virgin by chance, cool. But it’s super weird to decline a potential husband/wife because they’re not a virgin when you aren’t


r/HonestHotTakes • • 10h ago

casual hot take You shouldn’t judge people based on their ability to get laid.

2 Upvotes

As title says. I see so many people nowadays commenting and shaming people for their sexual history and it’s usually “progressive” people saying this. It’s more directed towards men and I find it very weird how you’d judge a guys worth based on how many women they were able to fuck. Never sat right with me…


r/HonestHotTakes • • 13h ago

People who complain about culture/gender war posts lack empathy

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I often hear people saying that if you engage in any of that type of discourse is miserable and they need to go outside or get laid and then they'll realize it's all internet slop, and it's like I'm glad everything is going good for you and you've never had to think seriously about it but not everyone can be as perfectly literate and immune to any type of propaganda as you, and this stuff is a fairly important issue to a lot of people, and I think it's easier to act like it's a distraction and you're above it all then actually think about the uncomfortable topics. I'm aware that a lot of the recent rise in gender/culture war posts is somewhat artificial and brought on by bots to create commotion before the midterms, but that wouldn't work if these topics didn't have power over people that they could leverage. I'm not saying everyone is secretly personally invested or affected by it, but I think it should be clear to anyone paying attention that things are rough out there, and I think the majority of people disregarding these posts as "culture war slop" are trying to pass their conflict avoidance off as enlightenment and not really helping anything.


r/HonestHotTakes • • 8h ago

casual hot take Truck drivers are the worst drivers on the road.

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Almost every person who drives a pickup truck on the road seems to be the worst kind of driver. They are either too slow, too fast, or aggressive as hell like they are top dog. Alot of them also don't use their damn turn signals either.

Next to them would be jeep drivers, but I come across more trucks than I do jeeps so they are the top example when it comes to shitty drivers

Edit: to clarify I'm talking about Pickup trucks not tractor trailers/18 wheeler


r/HonestHotTakes • • 1h ago

serious hot take I think tipping culture is linked to racism and a lack of history being taught won’t make a genuine difference in America

• Upvotes

In my opinion I think tipping culture and tipping in general is linked to how Jim Crow and racism used to keep people of color down and economically poor , in no other country is tipping required or expected within; the culture or society and I think tipping culture in America especially in places in the south like Waffle House or Cracker Barrel lets companies get away with paying workers as little as $2 per hour and a lack of this being a example of the many things in America still unchanged due to racism and a system is a direct result of the lack of commonly available education when it comes to our history as a country

EDIT TO ADD : I’m not saying all tipping culture to this date is racist I am saying it’s rooted in racism especially in America and the lack of history being taught allows the cycle to keep repeating

My goal isn’t to abolish or stop tipping in general my goal is to bring into light my argument of where these systems in America come from and why they are still effect today a lot of people are okay with accepting things as they are without asking questions and it’s getting worse with ai and technology coming into play


r/HonestHotTakes • • 8h ago

Abstinence is underrated

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  1. 100% protection against unplanned pregnancy, STI/STDs and other health complications from sex
  2. Zero financial cost because you don't need to buy contraception
  3. Can focus on academics and career without the distractions of romance issues from sex
  4. Avoidance of emotional baggage and regret (because women develop emotional connections to their partners more than men they're more likely to get their heart broken after sex)
  5. No worrying that he or she will dump you after getting what they wanted (sex)
  6. Nobody will think you're a whore/slut
  7. More likely to find a partner who respects you, your values, and morals and doesn't use you

r/HonestHotTakes • • 16h ago

casual hot take The flying car isn’t revolutionary or cool

0 Upvotes

Everybody is glazing elons flying car and I don’t see why. There is nothing in it that makes it revolutionary or the future of cars. It’s literally just boosters taped on a car.

Like if it was antigravity or something then it would be extremely revolutionary. But Elons car cannot even fly, it can just jump. It has limited range too, like how many of those cold gas thrusters can you fit? And how much room do you have to hold all that gas?

It’s a feat of engineering, I definitely couldn’t design something like that. I’m just saying it’s not all that advanced.


r/HonestHotTakes • • 3h ago

hot take, harshly criticise me for it! People always weaponise “white privilege” and “male privilege” while ignoring their own privileges

212 Upvotes

There’s a billion different privileges they could have access to.

-Pretty privilege
-Height privelage
-Weight privilege
-Age privilege
-Wealth privilege
-etc

This is all to say that reducing the value of people’s opinions because of their skin colour or sex is pretty stupid (some would call it racist/sexist).

Because ultimately you can be white, or a male and still be less privileged than someone else.