r/AlternateHistory • • 3d ago

What-If Wednesdays

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Welcome to What-If Wednesday, the weekly megathread for scenarios you'd like to talk over but haven't necessarily developed much yet.

Please use this thread instead of posting just a "What-If" question without any lore - those will be removed by the mods. r/HistoryWhatIf is a better option for that kind of post. Thank you!


r/AlternateHistory • • Jan 20 '25

Althist Help How to make an alternate history Wikipedia article: a tutorial

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An important warning is, Do not save your sandbox! Only press preview changes. As all content in Wikipedia must be related to the encyclopedic effort, wiki admins might delete your sandbox and undo your hard work at any time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:How_to_vandalize_correctly

I am well-known in the alternate history community for creating the imaginary politician Ed Donnell, who is a meme in r/imaginaryelections, as well as some personal controversies. My routine consists of making at least one alternate history post a day, be it a lore writeup or, more commonly, a fake Wikipedia article for my myriad scenarios, all of whom are originally posted to r/GustavosAltUniverses and a handful of Discord servers, and then complied on this and other subreddits.

But today, I will write a tutorial as to how to make a fictional Wikipedia page for alternate history scenarios. Although I use my phone for all of them, I recommend going on a computer for better quality.

If you create a Wikipedia account on desktop, you will have access to a sandbox allowing you to test editing without commiting vandalism, which is a bannable offense. My trick is to copy the Wikipedia article for the event I want to alter, or the military conflict or country templates in the case of a completely fictional event or subplot. Then, you alter the content of the page as you please; this is the beauty of alternate history.

Illustrations wise, you can retain the article's original image, or change it by copying and pasting ones from articles relevant to your scenario (for instance, a picture of Red Army soldiers for an Operation Unthinkable TL). But it has to be a Wikimedia commons image; otherwise, you'll have to photoshop your screenshot using Inkscape or some other image editing software.

You also have the option to change or add text to your article. I always do this for war scenarios, but not always so for election ones. Make sure to proofread them before screenshoting, in order to avoid potentially confusing typos or grammar mistakes. This is pretty much it.


r/AlternateHistory • • 10h ago

1900s What if everything went perfect for Germany after the Great War? Germany, 1925

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I project I’ve been working on to flesh out this 1.5 year old concept into something more interesting. First two images is a Wikipedia article detailing the summarized history of the Weimar Republic of that timeline, with lore I came up with, including some hints at what could’ve happened afterwards. The third image is a map of the territorial acquisitions. The fourth is a political map, the fifth is an administrative map, and the final one is an ethnolinguistic map.


r/AlternateHistory • • 14h ago

1900s People's Republic of the German People

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I made this in the middle of the night after I had a cool idea. no lore. (I'm an amateur artist)


r/AlternateHistory • • 3h ago

1700-1900s [ITH] The Reconquista War

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After the end of the Austracist in June of 1836, the newly crowned Francisco II and his generals started looking towards the other side of the Atlantic, which Spain had lost in a span of 20 years. An Empire that took 300 years to build, gone in 20 years. And apparently, Britain was falling for it, but Francisco and his generals weren't playing.

First of all, aided by his secretary, the Duke of Teschen (who had been sent to Spain because the Austrian Emperor, Ferdinand I, was afraid of how popular he got with all the Napoleon thing) started planning an express reconstruction of Spain after the war, and most importantly, its navy and its army. However, they found out they owe quite a lot of money. The solution? Make Prussia and the Pope pay it in exchange for investment rights.

With the Federal Republic of Central America bursting into a civil war, they saw the perfect chance to begin with, and on 27th of December, 1838, the Spanish Army landed in Honduran soil. Honduras, which only had a few months of history as an independent nation, fell quite quickly, as well as Nicaragua, Costa Rica and the remains of the Federal Republic.


r/AlternateHistory • • 3h ago

1700-1900s The Death of a Giant | The Diminished Empire of Brazil in 1850

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r/AlternateHistory • • 25m ago

1900s If the Milwaukee Road (MILW) accepted GE's offer to modernize their electric mainline, the entire trajectory of American railroads (especially in the west) would be completely different.

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The Milwaukee Road (MILW) rejecting GE's offer to modernize their electric mainline has proven to be one of the most fatal mistakes in American railroading history. Not only because of how much it proceeded to finish off the already-struggling railroad due to the oil crises making dieselization a then-dangerous choice but also the amount of potential being wasted by MILW's rejection of GE's offer given that GE was gonna do that stuff on their own pocket without MILW paying anything.

Now what if the Milwaukee Road realized how much this offer was going to save them (it at least for a few years) vs dieselizing like every other American railroad, accepting GE's offer to convert the 3000 V electric line to 25 kV AC and close the gap in Washington state? Well for one thing it would leave them in an overall better financial state and at least let them hold their ground just long enough to be acquired by another company as opposed to being stripped and sold for parts (with most going to the Soo Line). In 1980, rather than shutting down, the Milwaukee Road lets itself be acquired by Union Pacific. Union Pacific wanted access to Chicago for themselves. Previously they relied on proxies like the Chicago & Northwestern to have their cargo go to/from Chicago. There was also a desire to compete with Burlington Northern in the Pacific Northwest Market. Even though they had a line that took their trains to Portland, it was indirect, slow and winding. The Milwaukee Road's mainline to Seattle offered a much more direct route.

Upon acquiring the Milwaukee Road, Union Pacific was caught in a dilemma, as it dealt with a conservative board of directors who wanted the route de-electrified to supposedly make things easier from a logistic standpoint, but progressive factions countered saying that dieselizing the line would make them forfeit their share in the Pacific Northwest to the Burlington Northern behemoth. Thus the board relented and let UP keep the electrified line, but they could not take this victory for granted. Beginning in 1983, UP would collaborate with GE and Brown, Bovery & Cie to construct a catenary slug derived from the upcoming Dash 8 series to minimize disruption caused by having to swap locomotives at harlowtown. UP would also build a new intermodal facility in Harlowtown to take advantage of the budding intermodal market. Shippers from East Asia were coming to Seattle and Tacoma, and they wanted their goods delivered ASAP. Although Burlington Northern had more coverage, it was saddled with slow diesel locomotives that ground to a crawl on the mountain grades. UP's electric line had no such disadvantages, allowing them to deliver goods much faster, even taking into account the switch at Harlowtown. Flush with cash from wooing Pacific shippers and saving on fuel costs, Union Pacific would also begin targeted electrification at the Overland line from Omaha to Ogden, as well as from Harlowtown to Minneapolis-St. Paul. As these were new electric lines, they were built to 25 ft clearance to allow double stack freights, requiring rebuilding bridges and underpasses.

With intermodal companies serving the Seattle area favoring Union Pacific's electric line, Burlington Northern realized it could not take its scale for granted, as its monopoly was now contested. In 1982, Burlington Northern acquired Western Pacific, giving them direct access to the San Francisco Bay Area, and in 1985 Burlington Northern acquired Denver & Rio Grande Western. This gave them a complete mainline from Chicago to the San Francisco Bay Area, countering Union Pacific's complete Chicago-Pacific Northwest Mainline. Burlington Northern's complete mainline from the Bay Area to Chicago. ends up suffocating a declining Southern Pacific.

In an attempt to save itself, Southern Pacific attempted to merge with the Atchison, Topeka & Santa Fe but the Interstate Commerce Commission rejected it due to the high level of overlap. With nowhere to go, Southern Pacific began to sell its lines piece by piece in an attempt to stay afloat. The St. Louis-Southwestern railroad (save for the Rock Island line SP acquired in the early 80s), the Coast line from Los Angeles to San Francisco (including the Dumbarton Bridge line), and the Valley Subdivision (Los Angeles-Palmdale) were sold to Burlington Northern by the end of the 80s. Southern Pacific also gave Burlington Northern trackage rights to use the Valley Subdivision up to Stockton, the Mojave subdivision from Bakersfield to Palmdale, and their port to Los Angeles. Southern Pacific would also have trackage rights to the ex-SSW line in order for freights from Houston to directly get to Chicago. As part of acquiring the Coast Line, Burlington Northern assumed operations of the Peninsula Commute from San Francisco to San Jose.

Burlington Northern begins the process of rebuilding and modernizing the dilapidated Coast Line to make it their premiere north-south freight line from LA to the Bay Area, installing new signalling, grade separating where necessary, and double-tracking the line as much as they can.

Even with these divestments, Southern Pacific decided to raise the white flag, and in 1993 they were acquired by Union Pacific. To satisfy the ICC, Southern Pacific had to terminate their trackage rights to the ex-SSW line as UP now had the Missouri Pacific line that parallelled it. In 1996, the Atchison, Topea & Santa Fe merged with Burlington Northern to form BNSF Railway. Once again ICC concessions were made. Burlington Northern had to terminate much of their trackage rights to the Valley Subdivision. As a compromise to have acccess to the ex-Western Pacific line, BNSF keeps trackage rights to the Fresno Subdivision between Fresno and Stockton. In exchange, UP gains trackage rights to BNSF's ex-Santa Fe Line from Richmond to Fresno.

As UP's acquitision of the Milwaukee Road came at the expense of Chicago & Northwestern, the CNW was acquired by Canadian Pacific in 1996. After 1996, BNSF sold the Valley Subdivision to Metrolink (though they would have trackage rights to it). They would also sell the Coast Line to Amtrak (Ventura-Salinas), Metrolink (Moorpark-Ventura) and Caltrain (Salinas-Tamien, including the Monterey and Santa Cruz linee) across the 2000s, as they now have the Santa Fe line as their own north-south freight line.

With the GE E60s reaching the end of their life cycles, UP began the process of replacing them with new catenary slugs done jointly between GE and Adtranz (later Bombardier Transportation) in the late 90s, derived from the GE Evolution series. The last of the E60s were retired in 2005. During this time, UP had been gradually electrifying the remaining mainline from Minneapolis-St. Paul to Chicago (both via Milwaukee and the Mississippi River), as well as the MILW mainline from Omaha through Iowa. Upon acquiring SP, UP would begin electrifying the Overland line from Ogden to California, as well as the Oregon Short Line from Ogden to Portland via Idaho (including a branch from Hinkley through Pasco onto Beverly where it connects with the MILW line), and the mainline from Ogden down to Los Angeles.

After completing electrification of the Overland and Oregon Short Line in the early-mid-2010s, UP began the process of rebuilding the MILW Pacific Extension between Beverly and Harlowtown to accomodate 25 KV AC and double stack freights.

Not wanting to be left behind by a powerful and modern UP, BNSF begins electrifying the Southern Transcon, the Feather River line from California to Salt Lake City, the DRGW line from Ogden to short of the Moffat Tunnel, and the CBQ line from Chicago to Denver.

This arms race in the western states starts to induce inertia towards targeted electrification to the north. The moment Canadian Pacific acquired Chicago & Northwestern, they were not directly competing in the upper midwest market. Sandwiched between BNSF's sheer scale and UP's electrified high velocity freights, Canadian Pacific was at risk of losing its Chicago-Vancouver freights to UP's and BNSF's Chicago-Seattle lines. Thus starting in the 2000s they began their own targeted electrification of their mainline from Vancouver to Winnipeg and from Winnipeg into the Midwest.


r/AlternateHistory • • 1h ago

Pre-1700s I made an alternate history video where the Holy Roman Empire survives 1806 on a technicality and slowly turns into the EU [OC]

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Point of divergence: on 6 August 1806 Francis II declared the Holy Roman Empire dissolved, even though jurists agreed he could only resign, not dissolve it. In this timeline the Perpetual Diet in Regensburg never confirms it, so the Empire just carries on.

From there it elects Napoleon under the Golden Bull, takes in France, survives Prussia trying to leave in 1866, fights WW1 only in the east, and two centuries later it's basically the EU. Except it still can't change its name.

Let me know what you think, especially about the borders after 1918!


r/AlternateHistory • • 5h ago

Post 2000s If India was more Multiparty

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This is an alternate-history/fictional scenario and is not intended to promote violence, hatred, or harm. I do not endorse or condemn any individual or political position depicted.

This post features real people in fictional scenarios and should not be interpreted as an accurate representation of their actual beliefs, positions, or actions.

THIS IS ALTERNATE HISTORY AND A WORK OF FICTION.

If you have questions on parties feel free to ask in the comments


r/AlternateHistory • • 49m ago

Post 2000s Robert Byrd wins the 2004 Presidential Election Time Line

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I was trying to think of a scenario for if a Democrat Candidate won 2004 Presidential Election. The only politician that I could think of that might have had a fair shot is Robert Byrd. He was vocally opposed to the Iraq War and the Patriot Act, he wanted to protect Social Security and Medicare, and he had challenged the expansion of the executive branch. Since he would not be considered a coastal liberal elite because he is from West Virginia, I think he would have managed to flip Midwest and Southern states Bush previously won. I think if Joe Biden was his Vice President pick, that would have been a solid ticket. I do think he and Joe Biden would have done a better job at trying to reduce the impact of the Great Recession and we might have seen real High Speed Rail built between New York, Washington DC, and Chicago via West Virginia with electrification powered by West Virginian Coal. I do think we would have had Obama run in 2016 since Joe Biden would not have been able to run for a 2nd term because of having to serve out 2 years of Robert Byrd’s Presidency after his death. In this timeline I do not see Trump becoming President or MAGA becoming mainstream.


r/AlternateHistory • • 5h ago

1900s Alternate Pre WWI

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r/AlternateHistory • • 8h ago

1700-1900s What if the Warsaw Pact occupation of Czechoslovakia was set up similarly to the Occupation of Germany post ww2

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r/AlternateHistory • • 12h ago

Pop culture Alternative take on the Gombe War of 1978

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r/AlternateHistory • • 4h ago

Post 2000s What lf the federalist succeeded

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A timeline that the USA was really federalist:

American federal Republic is a democracy federalist Republic that is made up of 35 states and one of biggest economies in the world and one the important countries in WW1,WW2 and WW3 and has nukes and become a Federation in 1790.


r/AlternateHistory • • 1d ago

Post 2000s DeutZchland - What if Germany had Russian politics? NSFW

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DISCLAIMER: Heinrich Wolf is NOT a real person, he's a fictional character created entirely by me only for the purpose of this scenario


r/AlternateHistory • • 1d ago

1900s Red Black Eagle, White Bear | Part 3 of an alternate Cold War between the United States and the Free Socialist Republic of Germany

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Red Black Eagle, White Bear | Leo Bauer (1912–1991)

Bauer's economic reforms improved Germany's economy somewhat, but the FSRD was clearly past its prime, and economic growth rates never returned to their pre-1975 levels. Furthermore, it was virtually impossible for Germany to replace old and unproductive workers due to the country's lack of unemployment.

Despite these problems, Germany remained economically and socially stable throughout the 1980s, earning Bauer some much needed popularity. Furthermore, Germany's technological gap with the capitalist nations was partially bridged by the creation of a national informatics development program, which released the Familiencomputer, Germany's first commercial PC, in 1985.

In 1983, Germany implemented pollution controls and began an alternative fuel program in order to address pollution and better protect the environment for future generations. By the end of the decade, German satellite states, except for Borotbist Ukraine, had followed the FSRD's lead.

Germany had an open border policy, and German citizens were free to leave the country at any time. On the other hand, Germany received thousands of guest workers from other communist countries every year, with the majority of them coming from neighboring Poland and the Czech Republic and a sizable minority being Romanian and Belarusian.

Many ethnic Germans resented this foreign presence and felt the guest workers were stealing jobs from them. They looked up to Horst Mahler, who, in 1987, proposed a limit on the number of guest workers allowed in Germany, and the immediate deportation of guest workers convicted of crimes. But only the second was adopted.

As the South African and Nicaraguan conflicts led to an increase in tensions between Germany and the United States, negotiations for the INF Treaty collapsed by 1989, and intermediate range nuclear missiles remained legal for over a decade. Many people across the world continued to fear a nuclear war despite the fact nukes have never been used as of 2026.

Bauer did not choose a successor and left that choice up to the German workers' councils. International media and US intelligence speculated that Erich Honecker would succeed Bauer, but this did not happen because Honecker was too old (he died in 1994).

When Bauer passed away on 9 January 1991, the Supreme Workers' Council elected Gregor Gysi for Chairman of the Communist Party of Germany and Egon Krenz for Chancellor of the Free Socialist Republic of Germany. Gysi, Krenz, and Lothar Bisky organized a state funeral for Bauer that was attended by the majority of the world's leaders and two million German mourners.

Currently, Bauer is popular in Germany due to the economic and political stability the country experienced under his leadership, especially in contrast to Gysi's. People regularly leave flowers at his Berlin grave.


r/AlternateHistory • • 6h ago

1700-1900s [Timeline] What if India was never colonized? (What if Peshwa Madhav Rao I survived tuberculosis in 1772 ?)

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Hey everyone, I wrote a whole book on this scenario and yes this is highly unrealistic. I want to share an introduction with you and if you are interested, I will slowly share the whole thing. We also assume that events in the world remain largely the same despite this diversion.

In this world, Maratha Empire or India doesn't become a superpower but is affected by corruption and inequality. The marathas succeed in keeping European at bay but europeans still hold some territories in the subcontinent. The empire remains highly decentralized despite efforts of centralization. As weak peshwas take power in late 1800s, corruption grows and voices for reforms grow strong. The Indian Democratic Congress is formed in 1882 to advocate for reforms. In 1905, north western territories break away startingna civil war. As peshwa is unable to control the situation, he asks indian democratic congress for help, promising democracy in return. In 1911, civil war ends and in 1914, constitution is adopted which gives equal voting rights to everyone and an interim government led by Indian Democratic Congress is formed. They win the first elections held in november 1916. In 1933, socialists break away from the party to form the Indian socialist bloc. They ally with indian communist party. In 1952, a north indian party called national people's alliance is formed protesting against the dominance of maratha, bengali and south indian leaders called the first coffee party movement. The book covers elections, policies and politics from 1916 to 2026.

Winners of elections in this alternate india since then:

1916 - IDC

1921 - IDC

1926 - IDC

1931 - IDC

1936 - ISB + ICP

1941 - ISB + ICP

1946 - ISB + ICP

1951 - IDC

1956 - IDC

1961 - ISB + ICP

1966 - IDC

1971 - IDC

1976 - IDC

1981 - NPA

1986 - NPA

1991 - IDC

1996 - IDC

2001 - NPA

2006 - IDC

2011 - NPA

2016 - NPA

2021 - NPA

2026 - Elections scheduled in november

I know this introduction is way too long and if you are interested, I will share more from my book slowly.

Thank you.


r/AlternateHistory • • 6h ago

1900s What if the Soviets won the Polish-Soviet war and Germany and Lithuania gained concessions

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With the collapse of the Russian Empire and the Soviet revolution we also got the Polish-Soviet war of 1919-1921.

In the OTL this ended with a Polish victory and a fairly wide Poland.

In this alternative history, for whatever reason, Poland loses and is brought under control by the revolutionaries.

What makes this scenario so interesting is that by this time a lot is still in motion.

The soviets promised the Vilnius strip to Lithuania in case of a victory.

Viktor Kopp, the soviet representative to Berlin in 1920 is quoted with the following "Moscow would speak strongly on favour of taking back Danzig, Pommerania and Upper Silesia from Poland and handing them over to Germany." to cut off the corridor.

This by no means is a guarantee this would occur and in what measure. It also leaves open Poznan entirely.

Memel by 1920 is under french control and goes to Lithuania in 23/24 under Germany agreement to avoid it going to Poland.

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Lets assume the following scenario for 1924:

After Germanys and Lithuanias agreement and positive signals to accept the new Soviet state and the collapse of Poland we have the following changes in the east:

1921:

- Germany receives Danzig + Pommerania (the entire corridor down to Bromberg and Thorn), the small upper silesia and at least half if not all of Posen, restoring the 1914 eastern borders on polish ground.

- Lithuania receives the Vilno strip

-> German/lithuanian soviet relations are quite good as a result

Memel stays under French control as Paris neither trusts Germany or Lithuania right now enough to cede it and decides to keep it as strategical port for now.

1923:

The German Oktober communist revolution in Thuringia and Saxony along with the Hamburg uprising turn a lot more blody due to proximity with Soviet Poland and more influence. The KPD and moscow like the OTL are to blame and the fallout is big.

The minor but still weeks lasting civil war sends ripples not only through Germany but also through Europe.

Relations sour and the recently founded USSR 30.12.1922 with Poland as a founding member becomes slowly the new main worry of the continent.

Memel is eventually ceedes to Germany as other restrictions are also loosened on Germany in fear of more spillover.

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Where does it go from here?

- Will soviet Poland stay Soviet or will a Polish civil war become the eventul catalyst that ignites WW2?

- A push towards the right seems unavoidable after the the brief civil war from the october urpising. Will Germany still become fascist when communism becomes an active threat, giving antisemitism no room to fester beyond timely levels?

- Could the near restoration that occured towards the east ease the humiliation of versailles, along with the other easements from the western entente, now that Germany more and more takes on the role as a bulwark against fascism?

- A return to monarchy? After 1918 the German throne was vacant but not gone. Neither Wilhelm II nor his son the crown prince were wanted in Germany. But the grandson Wilhelm (III) born 1906 was considered the next candidate by parties like the DNVP even back then. (In the OTL he dies 1940 in the invasion of France) He is spoken of very fondly and his death results in the Prinzenerlass (barring noble firstborns from service)

So its not unlikely that a resurgent center party like the DNVP gets their way and proclaims him as monarch, transferring the Reichsverweser (steward role) back.

- what else changes after 1924 and where does it all end?


r/AlternateHistory • • 7h ago

1700-1900s Fall of the Swedish Empire

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r/AlternateHistory • • 11h ago

Media Discussion The north germanic takeover of southern Europe (fictional)

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r/AlternateHistory • • 19h ago

Post 2000s the los angeles shootings of 2004

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little bit of something for one of my favourite movies by michael mann


r/AlternateHistory • • 9h ago

1700-1900s Black book on Political security: What if all concerns of the Vietnamese government were true

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r/AlternateHistory • • 19h ago

1700-1900s "Another World"

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"Another World" es un proyecto de Alternate History personal, donde vemos un mundo geográficamente distinto pero a su vez parecido al nuestro, la historia evolutiva tomó un rumbo muy similar terminado en una prehistoria muy similar a la nuestra, la evolución humana fue igual, los estados humanos desarrollados tienen bastantes similitudes, a fines de crear una historia reconocible pero a su vez que dé pie a una historia interesante

Corre el año 1880 d.c, el mundo se encuentra en un punto de paz armada, similar a inicios del siglo XX de nuestro mundo, con estados recuperándose de derrotas o consolidando sus victorias, en proceso de industrialización temprana o expandiendo su industria actual, muchos analistas ven un camino que tarde o temprano ocurrirá, un error geopolítico que terminará en una guerra total, pero quién podrá alzarse con la Victoria?

Las 5 potencias actualmente son las siguientes, en base a su control territorial directo e indirecto, la obligatoria posición de una infantería moderna (estándar de 1900 d.c de nuestro mundo), carros de combate (vehículos con base de camiones de transporte de finales del siglo XIX recubiertos de placas de acero de poco blindaje y una ametralladora en su parte superior trasera), aeronáutica avanzada (biplanos y Zeppelins) y una naval formidable, los únicos estados que poseen todo esto al estándar requerido son:

1) Imperio de Wistonia (Reino Unido como principal base)

2) Segundo Reich de Ostmark (segundo imperio alemán como principal base)

3) Confederación Liberal de Wixorus (USA como principal base)

4) Imperio de Teslia (gran Colombia monarquica como principal base)

5) Imperio de Kamuki (imperio japonés post era Meiji como principal base)

Nota: el resto de potencias hasta el puesto 10 tienen todos los requisitos pero no tan desarrollados como para ser gran potencia


r/AlternateHistory • • 7h ago

1900s what do you think would have happened if the Soviet Union had a civil war during the push into Berlin, with the group starting it being fascist and fascist apologists? Along with other groups and ideologies opposing the Soviet Union and its worldviews.

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I believe this would stop the push, extending the war on the eastern front.
With this happening the crippled German forces may have a period to regroup and attempt a forward assault out of Berlin to the east.

The Americans and British along with other forces like the Canadians and polish would strengthen their offensive forces moving into Germany and maybe move into southern Germany and Austria.

I think that the eastern front would become a stalemate with Germany unable to create successful offensives and the soviets preoccupied, prolonging the war.

What do you think?


r/AlternateHistory • • 20h ago

1900s Dutch Nagasaki but Modern Day

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