r/uktrees • • Dec 09 '20

Discussion Firstly, don't buy drugs on reddit (or even the clearnet). Secondly, CBD buds aren't legal. NSFW

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Link to original post.

Can't believe it's been a year since posting, but here we are, reposting to open up the comments again now it's been archived. I meant to rewrite it to be less angry before reposting but haven't had time.


2 things to get off my chest that eat at me most days I come to clear the modque. This is not a post to try and reinstate the rules, it is just some explaining.

edit 1: Apologies for getting heated in the comments of this one, this post is the outlet for the festering rage that increases every time I read about someone being scammed or claiming CBD flower is legal. I'm normally pretty chill, I promise x

edit 2: Adding some Q&A from the comments into the main body. Some of them I've included because they are good points that are a good idea to add, others are to stop others asking the same question.

edit 3: you guys who previously thought CBD flower was legal, and have now changed your stance and agree with what I'm saying, you guys are the real MVPs. Whether you commented or not, you're the real homies fr.


Don't buy drugs on reddit, or on the clearnet.

On average, we hear of one person on this sub being scammed by another redditor (and sometimes a clearnet site) every 2 days. I'd hazard a guess and say most people don't message us about being scammed out of embarrassment (in hindsight). That's a lot of money being wasted, money that (given our average age) we really can't afford to just piss away.

You know it genuinely makes us upset when we see someone scammed for a couple hundred quid. Not because it breaks the rules, not because the sub is at risk, but because someone has lost money they worked for and they are also encouraging the scammer to keep scamming.

So, this is me saying just don't fucking do it. Business conducted without connection to the sub is irrelevant to us, and this post isn't to protect the sub or us. If someone is here vending through PMs there is a 99.99% chance they are a scammer.

Imagine, right, you've got 10LBs of grass in 20 different strains in 3 different forms. You clearly have money through previous sales, and you're set to vend.

Do you, a, frantically PM people through reddit asking you to buy through Wickr. Or, b, setup shop on a market and continue to build rep.

Also, everyone who says they have a firrrrrrrre link (flame emoji x 10) who deals through Wickr you should message they are also a scammer. You will loose your money and your dignity. They will also have your address that you will more than likely be blackmailed with shortly after (which is also a common occurrence).

Every person who's been scammed messages us the same way 'I know it's stupid and I know it was obvious they are a scammer but u/WorthlessPieceOfShit scammed me and here's proof.'.

Hindsight is a bitch, so get some fuckin forsight and don't be a moron.

Also, clearnet websites, don't even touch 'em.

Instagram is like wading through a pool of shit to find a gold plated coin. Yeah the coin is there, but it is neither worth the trouble or time. It can be alluring to those who can't be arsed with learning to use the markets because of how easy it is, and then after the fact will justify why Instagram is better than any other alternative.

Not only that, think of your OPSEC for gods sake.

For those of you who struggle to keep your singular brain cell company who will still go on to piss money into the wind, if you contact us with proof that you have been scammed, there is no repercussion. Don't be afraid, we will only judge you in private ;).


Reddit Plug Comment Q&A

Q) So is there no way of finding a dealer on reddit?

A) Wherever you look, you will always be able to find a source. If you attend your local female only 60+ chrrurch group for long enough you will find a lovely old lady who knows a guy who knows a guy who comes through. All I'm saying is that, as an amateur, you will miss the obvious warning signs of a scammer and with no way to verify legitimacy of a reddit plug (other than PGP) you will fall victim. I say amateur, because those who know what they are doing don't buy through a damn social media platform, unless they know them personally or have an exceptional circumstance.

Q) So where do I find a plug online? You all talk of doing it but don't let up. or What market?

A) Right, this isn't the place for this sort of question, and truth be told there isn't a reliable single outlet for it any more. However, the one and the only search term you need is DNM. With this single acronym, you have the full capacity to go out and research every single aspect of ordering safely online. Where to go, who to buy from, how to keep yourself safe. It's all out there and very easy to do/find. Like seriously. Just do the research, learn the shit, learn how to use bitcoin and tumblers, learn how to use PGP, learn it all (like we all had to) and you'll be up and running in no time.

If you can't work it out, then you really should stick to street dealers. I don't say that patronisingly, I mean that if you can't work it out from there on your own, you will end up getting scammed or getting caught.


CBD Buds Are Illegal

Update: in another one of the usual shite and misleading responses to a petition our favourite home office shed some light on CBD products, too, and it's even more stupid than we thought:

In relation to industrial hemp, the Government has no intention of amending this policy. The Government operates a robust and risk-based licensing system to enable the cultivation of low THC cannabis (industrial hemp) from the non-controlled parts of the cannabis plant (i.e. seeds and fibre/mature stalk). Our policy enables the production of hemp fibre for industrial purposes or the obtaining of seeds which are then pressed for their oil. The cultivation of cannabis plants must be from approved seed types with a THC content not exceeding 0.2%. The ‘0.2%’ reference is used solely to identify varieties which may potentially be cultivated, within the scope of this policy. The current policy is in place to prevent misuse and diversion of the controlled parts of the cannabis plant, and currently, there is a large number of companies successfully operating under this industrial hemp policy.

Home Office

To be honest this contradicts some of the laws quoted below, so it should be taken with a teaspoon of salt, but even so.

End of update

No, it isn't a grey area. NO, CLEAR don't always get it right. Yes, you can get nicked for it. Yes, it is illegal.

Here is a link to the law in question. There are no 2 ways about it, CBD buds are not legal.

Here is another supporting sheet, and whilst it is produced by the government, it doesn't serve as a legal document, moreso advice, so take that with a pinch of salt.

Home Office policy provides that licences may be issued for the cultivation of cannabis plants with a low tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) content for the production of hemp fibre for industrial purposes or the obtaining of seeds which are then pressed for their oil. For both of these uses, licences are granted to enable the use of non-controlled parts of the plant (i.e. seeds and fibre/ mature stalk only). This policy is only applicable where non-controlled parts of the plant are used.

There needs to be a defined commercial end use and the Home Office only issues licences for cultivation of plants from approved seed types with a THC content not exceeding 0.2%. The ‘0.2%’ reference is used solely to identify varieties which may potentially be cultivated, within the scope of this policy, and to differentiate between the fee level is applicable under the Misuse of Drugs (Fees) Regulations 2010. The Hemp (Third Country Imports) Regulations 2002 also require, except in specified circumstances, that hemp from ‘third countries’ be imported under a licence an

Oil, tea, handbags and shampoo can be made from industrial hemp, and the plant that they were made from may contain low levels of THC and contain CBD as long as they are produced by licensed peoples.

Flower, however, is not legal under any circumstance. Theoretically, completely THC and THC-V free flower would be un controlled (legal). But that is impossible by current standards, and doesn't exist (yet). Every CBD heavy plant has atleast trace THC(-V). The bulshit 0.2% rule that ill-informed people and love toting is nothing more than the number that allows a company to grow that plant under license, and for that plant to be grown for industrial use. Nothing else.

Feel free to also brows 2001s misuse of drugs act in which you find nothing contradictory of the above.

So please, for the love of god, stop hounding us and eachother over whether it is legal and why you think it is.

If you can provide me with proof of the contrary, I'd love to see it, and would happily change my stance.


CBD Flower Isn't Legal Comment Q&A

Q) What do you make of this?

Specifically "The law states products ‘derived from’ industrial hemp can be exempt from the MODA if they have been ‘processed’ and contain less than 1mg of THC or CBN."

I always thought that was the loophole or grey area, that it is considered a processed hemp product by way of drying, curing and trimming, but I've not spent all that long looking into it and I'm not at all qualified to comment, I'm certainly not a legal professional.

A) Interesting point, and an article I hadn’t seen before.

Here is the government fact sheet they are referring to, in which it states:

'An “exempt product” means a preparation or other product consisting of one or more component parts, any of which contains a controlled drug, where—

a) the preparation or other product is not designed for administration of the controlled drug to a human being or animal;

b) the controlled drug in any component part is packaged in such a form, or in combination with other active or inert substances in such a manner, that it cannot be recovered by readily applicable means or in a yield which constitutes a risk to health

c) no one component part of the product or preparation contains more than one milligram of the controlled drug or one microgram in the case of lysergide or any other N-alkyl derivative of lysergamide.'

Do you mean to tell me that they prepare the CBD buds half a gram at a time? Not a chance. So that breaks rule b. So CBD if prepared in a quantity above half a gram (at any point if it was in contact with more than half a gram) , even if it is broken down into grams to sell). There will not be a single place that picks half a gram at a time, prepares it and then packages it in half gram quantities only. Thus, still illegal.

And the products are advertised and meant for human consumption. So, still controlled under the laws i originally stated.

Q) But it's legal under EU law, which we abide by, so that's where the grey area is isn't it?

A) CBD flower isn't legal according to the EMCDDA, in fact they don't even distinguish it from high THC weed as far as legality.

The only time Cannabis is Legal under EU law is if prescribed medically, be it THC or CBD strong. Even further, they only allow four brands of either to be prescribed: sativex, marinol, cesamet and bedrocan two of which are fuckin synthetic.

Are you saying that the legality of regular weed is a grey area because is can be prescribed medically by the EU? No. Are you saying that because the EU allow it to be medically prescribed you can appeal in court? I should hope not.

Further than that, the EMCDDA just set out the guidelines, i.e. if the country sees fit they can decide their own drug laws (such as in the case of CBD flower being legal in France and Italy, yet illegal in the UK).

Source 1 , Source 2 straight from the horses mouth.

Q) But it's sold in headshops, so it isn't your fault if you get caught is it?

A) This just isn't true, I don't know how else to put it. Less you show me the 'if I didn't know it was illegal, it's not illegal law lol'.

Just as a side note, why do you think Holland and Barret don't sell the flower, and only sell the oil eh? Cmon now use your noggin. Quite a few CBD shops have been raided too, so the fact that they exist isn't testament to legality in any way.

If you're local corner shop sold ketamine in its sherbert packets, and you knew what you were buying, and it says ketamine on the reciept, you're still getting nicked for having ket on you regardless of whether you can produce a reciept to say you bought it at a shop. Just because the shop gets nicked, doesn't mean you don't.


Sorry For The Rant

Now that these two things are very clear, I can stop getting twisted over people getting scammed and just laugh as the information is here and clear, and I can link this post whenever CBD is being debated.

The majority of you guys are sound, like really sound, and I know most of us would kick it if we met, so don't take it personally. Those who this is aimed at will know lol.


r/uktrees • • Dec 06 '24

DMs, Bots & Scams NSFW

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Just a brief PSA to say to ignore any direct messages you get from users promoting vendors or promising drugs. These are mostly bots and handing over information or money will result in you being scammed, no matter how legit or convincing they seem.

Unfortunately we can't do much about them as they technically operate outside the sub. When you get these messages, just use the report function and report directly to Reddit. If you'd like to limit or completely stop random users from DMing you, go into your account settings, then 'Chat and messaging permissions'. There you can block all DMs, or limit to accounts older than 30 days. Not a perfect solution, but it helps.

Stay safe, and happy toking!


r/uktrees • • 3h ago

best way to pack edible on a short coach trip w my mum lol ? NSFW

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Hi! I am going on a short trip with my unbearable, mentally ill mum and I’m a big stoner (she doesn’t know). I just need to get obliterated at night to get thru it all. My boyfriend lovingly made edible brownies and they really don’t have any weed smell I reckon.

Thinking to pack 3 wrapped in cling film and put in a resealable bag. Hope it will be discrete enough…

Also I’m travelling coach.

Wdyt ? How do you pack edibles and use around your family ?

Thanks soldiers ( ̄ー ̄)ゞ


r/uktrees • • 1h ago

Perfect combo before work on a Monday! NSFW

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Bubba Kush cart paired with the secret! What's everyone else medicating on this afternoon? 😎🌱


r/uktrees • • 2h ago

Hash mix alternatives NSFW

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r/uktrees • • 19h ago

Wizard Trees x GHW - Smoothie NSFW

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Flower is Pineapple by Uptopp family farms


r/uktrees • • 3h ago

Is this good for red runtz? NSFW

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r/uktrees • • 16h ago

Is this ready for harvest? NSFW

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This is my first plant and want to make sure I am doing this right.


r/uktrees • • 1d ago

Grape Gasoline NSFW

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r/uktrees • • 1d ago

TheTenCo - Black Zquid NSFW

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Had the opportunity to try this one, not blown away but also not disappointed.

Very sweet, the zkittlez translates well with a smooth candy gas on it.

Burns really nice, thick creamy smoke, 8/10 overall.


r/uktrees • • 1d ago

Hippie Speedball NSFW

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r/uktrees • • 2d ago

Hello from Germany! I've got a couple of q's about British cannabis culture NSFW

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First of all, thanks to everyone who even bothered to open this boring looking thread. After all, I'm asking YOU to do me a favor, by answering the following questions. The island nation of the UK is, despite its proximity, a relatively exotic place to me, and I hope you can teach me some new things here.

My questions: 1. Let's say you're walking down a busy road in your closest city with a lit J in your hand. Just that, casually strolling and inhaling. How probable is the chance that people around you will complain, or worse, threaten you with legal action? What if a cop spots you?

  1. Is it easy to become a medicinal cannabis recipient in the UK? Here, in Germany, it's as straightforward as buying beer from the supermarket. (please let me assure you: I'll be always abiding by any present laws when I have the chance to visit your country, I'm not asking with any ulterior motives)

  2. Can you realistically expect a decriminalization, or even full legalization, within the next 10, 15 years, given the current political trends in your country (of which I know nothing of)?

  3. What is a 'good' price for a gram of bud at your local black market? In Germany, the black market for weed has nearly disappeared thanks to super-cheap pharmacy drops. We are like a poster child cannabis import nation. :)

You don't have to feel obliged to answer to answer all 4 questions, just write as much as you feel like. Have a nice and warm weekend everyone!! 🍂🌲


r/uktrees • • 2d ago

My Experience Trying British Strain as American: NSFW

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I’m an American who lives in Seattle. Today, I decided to try the “UK Cheese” strain from a local dispensary in the form of a preroll. Of course, it’s been legal here for quite a while now so the purchasing process was hassle-free (other than needing to flash my ID upon entry).

This legendary strain is associated with the British rave scene of the 90’s, which is an undeniably iconic era in the history of EDM.
Right away, it smells like orange peel and sawdust- none of the funky, cheesy smell it’s famously supposed to have. Even though it was labeled as UK Cheese, I’m not confident about the genetics or authenticity of what I purchased. Either way, it was quite good to smoke and produced an uplifting buzz.👍
This is my first time seeing this strain before, and I’m glad I had a chance to try it. I wanted to share what ya’ll’s weed looks like in this part of the world haha. Costs $12=£9 for two of em.


r/uktrees • • 2d ago

Maison O Caçapo - Zartier - My sincere review NSFW

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Hi, this is Kodai again with another Maison O Caçapo review.

This time we move into a completely different flavour profile and genetic background.

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Grower: Maison O Caçapo
Strain: Zartier
Genetics: Sunset Sherb BX2 × Perm
Type: hybrid (I tend to feel indica leaning) Format: 5g jar sourced from Coffeeshop Balou €140/5g =€28/g. On the lower end for a good 5g deal. Shoutout to Balou they seal their jars. Other coffeeshops store their Cali in mason or Tupperware just like their Dutch flower. Not cool.

Consumption method: 0.25 g joints, pure

Nose: Creamy sherbet, sweet doughy earthiness, and a dank flavour that reminds me of when I first started getting high on “indoor hydro chronic”. Mustiness almost. I can’t get enough of it. doughy undertones, gas, etc. The profile is subtle rather than aggressive:

which notes come through first?: There is a gentle sweetness underneath, but it never becomes the sort of candy profile that hits you in the face. For me the overall impression is creamy doughy sweetness with just amthe right amount of gassy musty dankness that just compliments so beautifully. YMMV.

Smoke: pure white ash colour, smooth inhale that translates into creamy grassiness with a hint of sweetness for me. There is a sweet doughy exhale but for me to br honest my overall impression on the exhale is more savory creamy. Maybe I’m not picking up much sweetness because I’m so to their other offerings which are Z forwards mostly. Smooth, no harshness. The smoke is think and mouth coating and velvety. Amazing

smoothness, harshness, cure, how well the nose translates to flavour.** On the inhale, I get **xxx

Looks: Very different to their Zoyard lineup. purples, autumn hues, I swear almost shades of red wine. Think trichine coverage and dank nugs, danker than e.g. Lemongiella or Yellow or Blue Zoyard. Lacking Zoyard orange calyxes.

Effects: onset is euphoric and relaxing. Develops into deeper relaxation I get zero anxiety. This developsnibtinjice body relaxation combined with a head high it not as pronounced. Yeah I think an indica leaning hybrid and character of the high: clear-headed initially but that dulls quickly into relaxed, comfortable in your seat feels.

Overall:
What can I say—I love what Maison O Caçapo are doing. Zartier is in my top 3, maybe even contender for my favorite. Burger it at Balou. Pre packed in jars. OR smell the buddies in a mason jars smell and check it realllllll good. You’d be surprised at the amount of Stalin Cali in Amst.

Scores
Bag appeal: 9.5/10
Batch freshness: 8.0/10 — great cure could have been a tad more moist **Smell: 10/10
Smoke/flavour: 9/10
Effects: 8/10
Overall: 9.5/10

Context for the score: My overall ranking is compared with my experience across MoCaçapo’s catalogue. This is excellent flower. Very different to the rest of their lineup. And very damn good. Contender for my best!

If you like this, please let me know. I do this out of love, not for karma.

Cheers!

Zoyard Blue, or maybe Zivenchy next?

One love,

Kodai


r/uktrees • • 2d ago

Maison O Caçapo - Lemongiella - My sincere review NSFW

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About my reviews: Hi. I’m Kodai. I live in Amsterdam and buy good flower because I enjoy it, not because I’m promoting anything. I hope you will get to know me, not for any other reason than the passion I have for high quality, fresh marijuana of varying strains, types (Sativa/India), terpene profiles, and other proclivities. I smoke Cali exclusively in 0.25 g joints—never bigger. For me, it’s like beer: why buy a pint that goes warm halfway through when two half-pints stay better? Small joints preserve the flavour; once they get too big, the tar starts interfering with the profile and it becomes a waste. I posted a review that got removed and I was banned for a while cause it was considered sourcing, forgot I live in Amsterdam and it’s easy here. Told the mods of my situation and they kindly unbanned me. Thanks for the re-add mods! If you’ve made it this far, thank you. Onto the good stuff. Time to share that love!

My main love affair atm is with Maison O Caçapo. I first tried their Yellow Zoyard and was hooked maybe 4 months ago. Since then I’ve hunted them down like collectible trading cards (fml and my wallet), but I try everything. Reviews will therefore vary, and I’m happy to provide more MoCaçapo content for those interested.

In this post I’m kind introducing myself as it’s the first in a series. I’m gonna structure ALL my reviews in a similar way so that those who are interested can look at them and they have a structured approach to my scoring.

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Grower : Maison O Caçapo
Strain : Lemongiella
Genetics : (Lemon Up X Zkittlez) X SFV OG
Type : Indica-leaning hybrid (this gets interesting at the effects section)
Format : 7g jar, privately sourced (not from a coffeeshop), true price Euro 25 p/g though I’m not taking into account minor other costs (crypto fees etc). Probably closer to Euro 26/g. (In coffeeshops these days, lowest I’ve seen is 28, highest, 35 and I swear once 40 euros / g. My lord).
Consumption method: 0.25 g joints pure

Nose: Bright citrus with a fresh, sour edge rather than overt sweetness—more orchard than candy. The dominant notes are lemon and lime zest, with a faint sweetness underneath. There’s also a clean “fresh-cut grass” quality, but in a good way rather than a poorly cured one. Very refreshing, especially given how much Zkittles-style sweetness seems to dominate everything at the moment.

Smoke: Clean white ash, and the nose translates beautifully into the flavour on the palate. Bright lemon and lime on the inhale, with a subtle sweetness that becomes more noticeable as the joint progresses. There’s also something reminiscent of very well-cured haze. “Extra virgin cold pressed” is the best way I can describe it. I’m a whisky/rum man so I like to use references that excite the imagination. A genuinely delicious smoke.

Effects: So I had an interesting experience with this one. I know its indica leaning, and I don’t know if it had to do with the terp profile (not really a guy who buys into that rubbish about this or that terp promoting sleep or excitement blah blah) but the initial effects for me were clear headed sativa’ness without the anxiety of a haze. After about 5-10 minutes this then settled into a heaviness behind the eyes. I liked the transition. It really gives you the opportunity to feel what it is to go from a sativa high to an indica high. If it wasn’t so dank I’d give it to my first timer friends and tell them to notice the difference in high over 10 minutes and they would then know exactly what a sativa feels like versus an indica. Long winded I know. I love the subject matter.

Overall: I am already a fan of Maison O Caçapo, but Lemongiella still pleasantly surprised me. The best description I can give is a hazy, “extra-virgin cold-pressed” orchard-lemon profile: fresh, bright, and more acidic than sweet.

Scores
Bag appeal : 9/10
Batch freshness: 8.7/10 (not too dry. Dare I say perfectly cured and perfect water content. I just like my weed a little more on the wet site. I like to let it dry in my room not on a shipping container somewhere).
Smell : 8/10, developing to 9/10 with time
Smoke/flavour : 9/10
Effects : 10/10
Overall : 9.1/10

Context for the score: My overall ranking is compared to my experience with MoCaçapo’s catalogue. This is excellent flower, but I have a few personal favourites within their selection. More reviews to come.

FINAL words:
Guys I’m obviously extremely passionate about good quality flower. I don’t jump on hype, I don’t like the trend of brands throwing anime on the labels. If anything I want the industry to become more upmarket. More “cultured”. I hope that in my structured reviews I can assist in this regard. My whisky and rum tasting has definitely prepared me haha.

If you like please let me know! I do this out of love not for karma!

One love

Kodai


r/uktrees • • 2d ago

Recent smokes NSFW

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Satoshi Nakamoto- punskii
Acrilico- punskii
Zkittlez- punskii
Government oasis static - gotstatictz


r/uktrees • • 2d ago

Black cherry soda NSFW

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Got a heavy note of cherry on this one


r/uktrees • • 3d ago

Don Merfos Leyendaz NSFW

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r/uktrees • • 4d ago

BEST STRAIN YOU HAVE HAD? NSFW

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Guys what is the best strain you have Had this year?

Also if you can remember your favourite strain of all time let me know!

Really enjoying this blackberry, bit damp but it’s packs a punch and super tasty!


r/uktrees • • 4d ago

Happy hour…Tea Time x Zangria NSFW

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9 Upvotes

Smells like candy


r/uktrees • • 5d ago

Zotheboys the snake charmer NSFW

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Toad venom x triangle canyon

The smells coming off this bud are lovely burns clean as fuck and tastes amazing

Gives a proper heavy stone if you smoke it to early in the day be prepared to do nothing for the rest of your day 😂


r/uktrees • • 5d ago

Review NSFW

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r/uktrees • • 6d ago

Stardawg - 120 a zip - grown by the local albos NSFW

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Fire this for albo dawg, takes me back in time, proper gassy funk


r/uktrees • • 6d ago

Permanent marker NSFW

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Some lovely permanent marker proper stunk out the living room when rolling


r/uktrees • • 5d ago

King Louis NSFW

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