I’ve been doing daygame for 13 years, on and off between girlfriends, and I’ve logged every approach. The total is now 5,739.

And I am 51 yeas old now, still going at it ❤️

From those I’ve had 42 lays, which works out at about 1 in 136.
I now some are at least 4 times as effective as me. But in my defense, this is counting every state shifting approach as well - and that's a lot of them.

And 7 of them turned into girlfriends, and one of those lasted 8 years.

And because I am a data nerd, I log everything, and so I ended up building a massive app for it too. You log an approach in one tap and it records the city and the exact spot. You can audio record a set and an AI coach gives you feedback on what was actually said, and you can see on a map when friends are out so you have someone to go with. And a ton more.

What are your numbers and what do you track?

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I have had many guys talk to me about a new girl they matched with or met at an event. The biggest complaint is that the girl tends to not respond as fast as the guy out of fear that the guy may think shes easy, also if she doesnt text him enough she will think hes not interested. This estimate from not texting too fast and texting too fast is a skewed number in the girls head based off past relationships.

Men want to focus on 1 girl at a time but in a world where women get more matches than men, men are forced into talking to multiple women to combat this. Women dont like to hear this but this is true.

From my experience, I talk to multiple women at any time even when I am in a relationship, not to cheat but because I am very social person. I can sense when a girl is taking me seriously and when a girl is not and I will tell you I figure this out right after the first date. If the responses take long, I know she is talking to other men, which is totally fine no issues but if I get the sense that she is trying to lead me on I will just stop responding.

I know this sound very harsh but we live in a world where people arent really dating they are ego dating and whoever cares the least always wins from my perspective and what I have seen. Hell, I am talking to a new girl right now who wont do certain things with me in bed while another girl is waiting on me to respond to do same said thing. When I message the first girl I will get a response within 12-24 hours, the 2nd girl maybe 5 mins. I know this 1st girl type as I have dealt with them before in the right way only to end up hurt and now that I get another shot I have to play this ego dating game.

Side note, ego dating doesnt exist a lot with gay men, my gay friend told me he matched with a guy and within 3 days they were already in love, in bed with each other and holding each other. He said they know what they want and what they are looking for so they are honest with each other and just go for it. You can see this in the divorce rates since gay men have the lowest divorce rate. Now for lesbian women its the total opposite as they have the highest divorce and DV rates.

I know this sounds like women may be the problem lol and they are not but in my honest opinion when women were given unlimited choices to choose any guy they went for the exact same type of guy, smart rich good looking and has plenty of women to choose from, which is where this whole ego dating came from. Women who message top tier men over and over in an effort to win them but the top tier guy always has rotating circle of women to just use. This causes an huge ego hit to most women that go for this and thus the ego dating starts that they use for average guys who never get matches.

So when you combine all these things, it shows that average guys put more focus on the first few interactions with women that they can tell and know when she is looking for something serious or just help with a bruised ego from a chad.

I've learnt to pursue multiple targets at once from this sub. I mostly meet girls in my school through classes and common interests/hobbies. My dad has brought up the potential issue of my pursuits meeting and realizing that I am pursuing them at the same time, which could make them both drop me as an option.

I haven't explicitly said "I like you" to any of them yet, so there's still some plausible deniability, but dad says girls are very sensitive to stuff like this and they probably know that I like them and won't like seeing me pursue others at the same time. How big of a problem is this?

I can talk to girls, bur only jn a friendly manner. I keep getting stuck in friendzone with girls, and they keep saying things like your such a nice guy, etc all the time. I want to hear some examples of flirty things to say in convo, as my current conversations always seem to revolve around school, hometown, and other boring topics.

Hello people ,i like a girl she is the dorm's sale's manager.,Generally we greet each other, when she is alone sitting in sofa i usually talk with her ,few days back I asked her to have tea with me ,she replied with "will see " ,what I need to do to get to know her ,she is behaving like a professional ,How to take her out from this professional thing and whenever I ask about her weekoffs she is saying there is no weekoffs .Always other sales managers(girls) sitting beside her ,I have her professional number but not personal ,she doesn't reply much in that only dorm related things only she replies in her professional number.How to take things forward .

I’ve had multiple girls come over to “watch a movie” but most of the time we just watch the movie like cuddling in bed. Their body language seems closed off and I can’t find a way to kiss them and close. One girl we made out and she kept stopping the escalation because she “wanted to watch the movie” am I stupid or do girls agree to lay in bed with you but don’t want to hookup. I don’t think I’m that stupid since I’ve closed from this scenario before