I’ve been doing daygame for 13 years, on and off between girlfriends, and I’ve logged every approach. The total is now 5,739.

And I am 51 yeas old now, still going at it ❤️

From those I’ve had 42 lays, which works out at about 1 in 136.
I now some are at least 4 times as effective as me. But in my defense, this is counting every state shifting approach as well - and that's a lot of them.

And 7 of them turned into girlfriends, and one of those lasted 8 years.

And because I am a data nerd, I log everything, and so I ended up building a massive app for it too. You log an approach in one tap and it records the city and the exact spot. You can audio record a set and an AI coach gives you feedback on what was actually said, and you can see on a map when friends are out so you have someone to go with. And a ton more.

What are your numbers and what do you track?

Today was my last day at work, and I decided to leave a little present for a coworker I really like.

The gift itself is pretty silly. The thing is, I was constantly playing with mine at work, to the point where it became something people associated with me.

I bought a brand-new one for everyone on my team, except for her. I deliberately left her my old, visibly worn-out one. I thought giving her something so characteristic of me would make the gesture a bit more personal.

She's currently on vacation, so she won't find it for another week or two.

Now, here's the problem.

I've liked this girl for a while, and I've had a feeling she might like me back, although I don't have any solid evidence. She approached me once or twice when we first started working together, but I've always been quite cold and reserved around her. Not because I wasn't interested, but precisely because I was. Whenever I'm around her, my mind goes blank and I struggle to act naturally.

Since I've now left the company, this might be my last opportunity to turn things into something more.

I'm assuming she'll eventually text me something like, "Hey, thanks for the gift!" But honestly, I have no idea how to take the conversation from there.

I don't want to come across as overly eager, but I also don't want to repeat the same mistake of seeming uninterested.

Ideally, I'd like to use that first interaction to build some chemistry and eventually ask her out.

How would you approach this? Would you keep things playful and see whether she engages, or make your intentions clear and ask her out?

And from a woman's perspective, how would you interpret receiving his personal when everyone else got a new one?

Any advice is appreciated!

I've learnt to pursue multiple targets at once from this sub. I mostly meet girls in my school through classes and common interests/hobbies. My dad has brought up the potential issue of my pursuits meeting and realizing that I am pursuing them at the same time, which could make them both drop me as an option.

I haven't explicitly said "I like you" to any of them yet, so there's still some plausible deniability, but dad says girls are very sensitive to stuff like this and they probably know that I like them and won't like seeing me pursue others at the same time. How big of a problem is this?

Hello people ,i like a girl she is the dorm's sale's manager.,Generally we greet each other, when she is alone sitting in sofa i usually talk with her ,few days back I asked her to have tea with me ,she replied with "will see " ,what I need to do to get to know her ,she is behaving like a professional ,How to take her out from this professional thing and whenever I ask about her weekoffs she is saying there is no weekoffs .Always other sales managers(girls) sitting beside her ,I have her professional number but not personal ,she doesn't reply much in that only dorm related things only she replies in her professional number.How to take things forward .

I’ve had multiple girls come over to “watch a movie” but most of the time we just watch the movie like cuddling in bed. Their body language seems closed off and I can’t find a way to kiss them and close. One girl we made out and she kept stopping the escalation because she “wanted to watch the movie” am I stupid or do girls agree to lay in bed with you but don’t want to hookup. I don’t think I’m that stupid since I’ve closed from this scenario before

I can talk to girls, bur only jn a friendly manner. I keep getting stuck in friendzone with girls, and they keep saying things like your such a nice guy, etc all the time. I want to hear some examples of flirty things to say in convo, as my current conversations always seem to revolve around school, hometown, and other boring topics.

I'm 26M and I'm starting to feel stuck in the same cycle when it comes to dating and meeting new people.

Most of my friends have girlfriends now, and when we go out together, we usually end up in the same places, with the same people . I rarely meet anyone new, and even when we go out, it doesn't really lead to meeting new women.

The other problem is where I live. I live in a small village with around 1,000 people. The nearest town has about 12,000 residents, but most of the people I see there when going out seem to be 35+. The nearest bigger city, with around 300,000 people, is about an hour and a half away by car.

I feel like I've reached a point where I can't just keep doing the same things and expect something to change. At the same time, I don't really know how to get out of this situation.

For those of you who have experience with this, especially if you've ever lived somewhere with a small dating pool:

• Is it worth going to parties, clubs or events alone?
• If you go to a bigger city by yourself, how do you actually approach the evening? Do you just walk into a bar or club and start talking to people?
• Are there better places to meet people solo as solo man ?
• How do you get over the awkwardness of showing up alone when everyone else seems to be there with friends?

I don't expect to meet a girlfriend every time I go out. I just want to get out of my usual environment, meet new people and give myself more opportunities to connect with someone.

Right now, it feels like I'm going around in circles, and staying in the same place clearly isn't helping.

I'd appreciate any real experiences or practical advice, especially from guys who have been in a similar situation. What actually worked for you? Thanks

Essentially what the title says: How possible is it to meet women to date in social circles like (sports) clubs, through friends etc.?

A little bit of background: I am 5'3" and 31 years old. Located in Europe. Online dating does not work for me, the same goes for bars or clubs.

When this topic comes up, I usually get the advice to join hobby groups and in general to build up a social circle. The idea being that in a recurring environment chances are better for attraction to build. However, the problem I see there is that I can only ask out one woman per group because otherwise I will just be the creep that is trying to date everyone. So this seems very limited. If I need to ask (optimistically) 10 women on a date before one says "yes", the math really does not add up. And this is just to get a date.

So my question is this: Does this route still work and is my math somehow wrong or is it mostly online dating and cold approaches these days?

some people can be very alluring because they have charm. charm is the ability to make another, quite simply, be fond of you.

to have charm, you must be able to enchant others. enchantment, in the real world at least, is the feeling of delight as a consequence of another’s presence.

babies tend to enchant. being in the presence of a newborn baby brings joy. you don’t feel anxious around a newborn baby. you want to be around a newborn baby. when the baby approaches, you welcome it with a smile.

those who charm enchant others like a newborn baby. to be in the presence of a charming individual, especially in the early days, brings excitement. it is a new beginning in the enchantee. if you meet an individual who alleviates any anxiety and makes you feel happy when you catch their attention, question whether you would call that individual charming.

they very likely are.

charming individuals are not charming because of any physical attributes: attractiveness, wealth, class, past achievements.

they are charming because they see you, and they are interested in you.

a lot of people do not like to be ignored.

to a lesser degree, we do not like to be unseen.

this is the anxiety that people hold.

the charming individual is not charming because they feel good about themselves.

they are charming because they want you to feel good too.

charm can be measured by smiles.

the charmer rarely has interactions where their interlocutor does not feel better after the conversation than before.

the charmer differs from the non-charmer in this aspect alone.

the non-charmer either does not materially impact the anxiety or happiness levels in the interactions they have.

or worse, the non-charmer negatively impacts the anxiety or happiness levels in the interactions they have.

enchantment (the removal of anxiety and the uptick in happiness) through charm increases the likelihood that your interactions with others are favourable to you.

because naturally, you want people to be less anxious and happier speaking to you, right…

when you see someone you are very attracted to and you speak to them, you want them to be less anxious and happier because they’ve spoken to you.

right…?

to seduce is to enchant plus other emotional cocktails. enchantment is to seduction as the foundation is to the house. without enchantment, you will never build tension (focus + restraint + plausible deniability).

charm creates enchantment.

enchantment creates comfort and excitement.

then tension has somewhere safe to exist.

free game.

Pretty much says it in the title. How long and often are u messaging a girl before asking her out on tinder

Got seduced, maybe talked on and off for a bit, then basically stopped talking and acknowledging eachothers presence.

How do you re establish that rapport with someone you specifically do not talk to anymore, and seduce the seducer?

(In the instance I want to apply this, we are both women - idk if that changes much for how I'd go about it).

I've finally convinced myself to stop actively pretending like I don't like a girl. Things definitely flow a lot more naturally in the last few interactions and I'm overthinking less, but should I be actively trying to find ways to escalate and show intention? Because actively looking for opportunities to escalate will just get me overthinking again.

My parents say that if you're not hiding your intent, she'll understand you like her real quickly, because intent can show through many little things, like focusing on her, messaging her at night, smiling, teasing, and a bunch of other little things that you might not even think of.

I am currently on Tinder, Bumble and Hinge and have noticed in the past 2 years that the number of matches have significantly decreased. I am currently 32 years old. I have been told my pictures are very good by multiple people (they show me in a good way, are well taken, high quality, and are taken in different places in the world as I like to travel). I remember in 2017-2023 I used to have pictures that were not nearly as good and I was also not as fit and I was getting way more matches and dates (about 20-30 matches a week and 1-2 dates a week). I have paid for all the dating apps including the subscription and boosts since 2017. I am just wondering what’s going on here as I maybe get 1-2 matches per week and it’s with girls that are not too attractive. I’m not sure if it’s the algorithm hiding my profile as I’m over 30, or girls saying they don’t want to meet me again (as I’ve had a lot of dates say they don’t feel a connection on the first date which is another problem I’m having), or something else. Also I am a non white male who is primarily trying to date white women and my height is on the shorter side (5’5).

I’m 33m, went to a music event/rave with some friends and got intro’ed to this fit pretty single mom who were one of my friends friend. We had a lot of fun and danced at the music event, I was even hugging her from behind during the euphoric moments. I didn’t really escalate further though as I was more genuinely enjoying the music and goofing around with my friends and having fun.

Fast forward a few weeks after the event, she friend requested me on IG. We’ve been chatting every day since. Lots of flirting, jokes and all the text book game. But, sometimes she would say things like “we should be friends” or “i enjoy my single life” then flip the book and we get back to flirting where shed say stuff like “you crossed my mind today” or “I’d be shy and nervous around you when we catchup”.

I’m having dinner with her this weekend, not sure whether I should try or not. Don’t want to waste my time if she is just seeking attention when she is bored and won’t let me hit it.

After learning and doing seduction for weeks, months, year etc. I wanna know does it get easier? Did you find that seduction felt easier or started to feel more “natural“ over time after seeing result. Or will it always feel like work to seduce women ,get dates, get laid? I’m also curious if you guys noticed that word got around about you and women started hitting on you for dates and hookups. I believe that it will get easier with time but I wanna hear from guys who’ve gone through it what your experience has been like and if you any advice.

Thanks in advance

• Crucial behaviors: You typically HAVE to do these to succeed.
• Non-crucial behaviors: They're good things to do, but they aren't strictly necessary.

Examples of CRUCIAL behaviors:

• These MOVE the PLOT FORWARDS. That includes:
• Approaching
• Getting contact info
• Moving to private location
• Physical escalation

Examples of NON-crucial behaviors:

• These DON'T move the PLOT forwards. That includes:
• Flirting
• Setting frames
• Push-pull
• Teasing
• Interpreting indicators of interest
• Building sexual tension
• Having good conversation skills
• Being funny
• Appearing confident
• Body language / posture

The trap that sooo many guys do is that they spend like 90% of their effort focusing on non-crucial behaviors. And the reason they do this, is because they're afraid of rejection.

If you notice: Almost ALL crucial behaviors can lead to rejection.

Non-crucial behaviors typically DON'T lead to rejection.

This is why so many guys choose the "safe" route. They spend their time and focus on the safe things that just helps a little bit but doesn't actually move the needle. It doesn't drive the plot. It doesn't lead to the results they want.

FOR EXAMPLE:

Johnny struggles with women. He asks how to improve his FLIRTING. Meanwhile. He is NOT approaching, he is NOT asking for contact info, he is NOT inviting her to a private location, and he is NOT physically escalating. He wants help with FLIRTING first.

See the problem? Jonny wants to bake a cake, but instead of buying the core ingredients first, he went straight to the "cake decoration" isle.

Every time I go to my university club, I usually have a moment with an attractive woman, but I can never seem to close for sex or a date. Sometimes, I even see them with other men afterwards.
I have no problem taking Ls at all, but it’s really jarring to see them with another guy after they’ve been dancing with or kissing you. I’ve had more moments like that than I’ve had actual success pulling women, and when I do pull, the majority of the time it’s me initiating, my timing has to be perfect, etc.
It’s really embarrassing for me because it feels like the ball is in my hands, but I somehow always fumble it. As much as I believe it’s down to SMV, I see less attractive guys pulling in the club all the time, or guys I know who approach less than me having more success.
Granted, I’m still working on my SMV, but that’s a very long-term process. Any advice on what to do? Because at this point, I’m just going to take another break from women and “work on myself.” I just can’t take the constant rejection or these invisible barriers anymore.

My process: say hello, gauge receptivity. If there’s low interest, onto the next. Look through her, see if we align, talk, then ask if she wants to go somewhere just us/escalate naturally. Usually, at this point, some friction would arise with a mid interest woman, but instead of staying and following her lead, I’ll just leave her my contact and move onto the next.

The goal scenario is: private area, after a few minutes take her hand and try to walk out of the club. If not, bye bye, onto the next.
Now, the reason I’m using this strategy is that it ensures no wasted time trying to entertain women and puts me in the lead. I’d much rather have a night with all missed shots that were clean than Jestermaxing and not sleeping with her in the end.

From my experience, whether you stay with her the whole night or just send a text the next day, if she wants to see you again, she will. So from this standpoint, I’m no longer trying to flip interest, just setting the tone.
Of course, I’d get their contacts regardless, so they aren’t leaving the funnel fully, and I’d still shoot them a text, but I won’t stay there entertaining them fully.

Edit:By “mid interest” I’m referring too mixtures of disinterested and interest mid interest is more clean and acceptable to build up on.

TL;DR VERSION:

Field report. Met a chick in grad school. Played it cool for a year, spun some plates, finally closed her this August. Good, right?

Except the morning after, she bounced at dawn and looked super cold. My ego got bruised because she wasn't acting impressed, so a couple hours later I texted her: 'Thanks for coming over. That was fun, but I like someone else. Can we still be friends?'

Now she completely ghosted me and I have to see her around campus until 2028.

Gents... did I totally implode my frame by panic-texting her that I liked someone else right after we hooked up? Or was she just a cold, bitchy person?

LONGER VERSION:

I need an honest assessment of my frame control, because looking back, I can't tell if I executed or if I completely tanked my own operation.

Here is the full field report. Tell me where I lost control of the interaction. I will try to summarize it as best as possible.

Met this chick in grad school. Hit it off at a party while we were both drinking, started making out. tried to F close, but she didnt want to take me to her place that night. That was ok because she was in my class and i had plenty of time and opportunities to try again with her and other girls.

Right out of the gate, I set my frame: I made it explicitly clear I was strictly looking to play the field, keep a rotation/roster, and had zero interest in an LTR. I wanted to stay single. But obviously, I wanted to close.

A week later, we went to dinner (her idea... after I told her to invite me over to her place any time), I used a lot of kino at the bar after, and afterwards, I had to pick up my backpack from her place, where we started fooling around heavy. But when I tried to push it past that, she kept resisting and stopped it from going to an F-close. Total Last-Minute Resistance and Anti-Slut Defense.

Instead of being completely detached, I think messed up my calibration. I wanted her to chase me, so I started running a soft validation loop—sending her daily "good morning" texts and random puppy videos for two weeks straight. Major rookie error on my part, basically giving away free attention. But I was new at this, fresh out of a LTR...

Right after the fooling around session, I threw out the ultimate shield: "Oh no, we went too far, I really hope this doesn't ruin the friendship." (My internal logic? "Friends" just meant I could still access her when it suited my roster).

She did not say much, but within a week she seemed to be chasing, she personally asked if I was coming to her bday bar night and then when I didn't show, she asked me to hang out with her again. I did not want to mislead her so I invited the class. She didn't even show up, so I continued the morning texts... then a week later she tells me she doesn't want to hookup again and wants to be "just friends", something about how she would get attached. I agreed, thinking I was being smooth. But honestly? I low-key harbored resentment toward her for like a year. I thought she was bluffing and that I could change her mind. She claimed she "liked" me, but then at the next bar night, she wasn't even coming up to me. I thought she was fucking with me.

After I realized she was not doing anything and was boring, I said F her, and I started hooking up with two other girls during the rest of that year, and a third girl this summer.

Fast forward nearly a year after our initial make out. This August, ran into her at a mutual friend's party, worked my angles, and successfully brought her home. Got the F-close. Mission accomplished, right?

But, I don't quite feel like I won. First of all, she bounced at dawn. Her body language and vibe were freezing cold—completely distant.

Instead of holding my frame, staying completely unbothered, and letting her process her own ASD, my ego got bruised by how cold she was acting.

Right away, I panic-texted her: "Thanks for coming over. That was fun, but I like someone else. Can we still be friends?"

Instead of getting jealous, fighting for me, or arguing, she just completely checked out. Zero emotion, total detachment, said she wasn't interested in even being friends anymore, and acted like she was 100% done. (even though for the entire year she'd try to talk to me and ask me about my weekend and shit, and get upset if I ignored her in the hall).

So, gents... give it to me straight. Did I completely butcher my frame with the beta text at the end, did I mess up by sending puppy videos and letting her lock me into the friend zone, or was this whole thing doomed from the start? Do any of you see where I completely fumbled the bag?

Keep in mind I see her ALL THE TIME and will have to until May 2028. We have mutual friends, classes, and organizations are we both in together. I cannot avoid her.

I can give more specific details if anyone is interested but that's just the overview since this story covers an entire year.

In night life and friends group a like it is almost always the somewhat chopped to meh girls who are super into me. In clubs I would get approached and on some occassions someone would make an attempt to kiss. Writing or giving any attention would result in my chat filling up with paragraphs.

On several occassions some of the girl's who were mildly attractive made 2+ hours of drive at night to my place.

With attractive women on the other hand there is pretty much no contact beyond within common friends.

I feel like I might be chopped enough to match said in terms of looks hencewhy the attention from them while receive very little from the ones that I do want

First real cold approach of my life!

Context & Background:
I'm 26(M) from Mexico, 5'7" (1.70m), decent shape, on face looks I would consider myself more towards the attractive side (im not Brad Pitt but im not a gremlin) overall I would say I’m a solid 8 could me more or less depending on who you ask. I’ve been hitting the gym consistently for the last 4 months so a think that 8 can get better. Anyways the target is this stunning, very fit ~40yo gym trainer that I met at the supermarket and then approached at the parking lot, she is like a head smaller than me with an athletic build; curly hair, beautiful smile, eyes and nose. GREAT ASS and AMAZING PAIR OF TITS, who apparently runs her own gym outside the city.

This was a 2 interaction approach, and I think it went fine.

PHASE 1: The seed (Supermarket bakery - ~3min)
Ran into her at the grocery store below my gym. We made eye contact and I smiled at her and she smiled back. We were waiting at the bakery counter, but no staff was around. She jokingly peeked into the back to call them. I jumped on the opportunity to playfully say: "Nobody's there, huh? Guess the bread is free today." She laughed and echoed the joke. I made strong eye contact with her. And DAMN! that was the moment I knew this was my opportunity, but I didn’t take action there.

PHASE 2: The Hesitation & The Re-approach (~10 - 15min talk at the parking lot)
After that, I lost her in the aisles, went down to the parking garage, put my groceries and gym bag in my car, and almost drove home. But I knew I just couldn’t let go that opportunity and never see her again, so I forced myself back up the escalators. Adrenaline was at 200%.
I waited near the exit, saw her leaving with her cart, followed her down to the parking area, and approached her from behind—touching her shoulder to get her attention. Mistake noted: It was late and quiet; she got startled. I immediately apologized with a calm smile. She laughed it off once she saw I was harmless: "Sorry, nobody was around, so you scared me a bit.", she said.

Direct Opener & Relationship Status: Told her I thought she was one of the most attractive women I’d seen, asked for her name, and made my intent clear by asking if she was single. She simply smiled and replied: "It's complicated." I didn't let that freeze me; I held frame and kept the conversation rolling.

Age Frame & Shit Test: She asked my age right away. I held frame initially ("Old enough"), which made her laugh: "You're just a kid, why don't you guys go after girls your age?" I replied that girls my age were too chaotic/unfocused; she agreed. Eventually told her I'm 26; and she revealed she has two sons (28 and 22).

Common Ground & Profession: She asked what I do, and I told her I'm an architect. She immediately replied: "Oh, look, my 22yo son is an architect too!" I fired back with: "Well, then he and I are going to get along great," which made us both laugh.

Gym & Fitness Connection: Found out she’s a trainer who just returned from a trip to El Salvador and hurt her back squatting. I connected that with my workout (mentioned I strained my lower back on hip thrusts and bantered: "Maybe you should train me so I stop hurting myself"). She smiled and kind of nodded her head and said “yeah, maybe.”

Travel Banter: When she mentioned she was from El Salvador, I told her a friend of mine is traveling there right now and keeps raving about how beautiful the country is. Then I dropped: "Well, now I have one more reason to visit," and she laughed again.

Vibe & Flow: The entire parking lot interaction lasted about 10–15 minutes. It wasn't one-sided: she actively asked me questions, expanded on my topics, held strong eye contact, played with her hair ocassionally, and had open body language. I wouldn’t say she was into me right away, but what I can surely tell it’s that she was a bit flattered about me approaching her and she was at least felling comfortable during the interaction.

PHASE 3: The Close & The Friction

Asked for her phone number. Result: Soft rejection ("Mmmm, No, I don’t think so").

Counter-offer: She insisted I find her on Facebook. She watched over my shoulder as I typed it, and confirmed her profile: "Yes, that one."

The Quirk: Her profile has the "Add Friend" button disabled (only "Message" is available, likely privacy settings for non-friends).

Exit: I was so fucking nervous that I ran out of things to say and she initiated the wrap-up: "Well (said my name), nice to meet you." extending her hand first. I took her hand and smoothly leaned in for a cheek kiss; she was completely receptive and reciprocated without hesitation.

QUESTIONS FOR THE SUB

Overall Rating & Critique:
How would you rate this interaction overall for a first-ever cold approach? Given the setting, the age gap, and the initial startle, what are the biggest technical or calibration flaws you notice, and what should I focus on improving next time?

The "It's Complicated" & Social Media Angle:
How would you read the dynamic of her dropping "it's complicated", denying her phone number, but staying engaged for 15 minutes and then giving me her facebook profile?

The Next Move:
Since her profile only allows a direct DM rather than a friend request, what’s the optimal first message to send here to capitalize without sounding intense or generic?

Personal Reflection:
I’ve been following this sub for about a year now, reading countless posts with the intention of, you know, drilling down the theory. But if there’s one recurring theme in almost every thread here, it’s that no amount of theory works unless you actually put it into practice and go talk to a real woman.

All I remember right after was getting into my car and laughing like an absolute maniac. It felt like I had just unlocked some ancient secret or something, when all I really did was take the very first step toward tearing down my fears. I felt an insane surge of self-esteem rush through my body like nothing I’d ever experienced before.

I know there are guys here with crazy amounts of experience, and to them, this might sound like a baby step. But this reflection is for everyone who, just like me, was stuck endlessly reading, only to end up fantasizing in their own heads. Just fucking do it! Regardless of the outcome, I know that if I had driven home tonight without saying a word, I would be kicking myself right now for not taking the shot.

I see so many posts on how to pickup girls but I feel many here lose the bigger picture:

1. Focus on your health: you should be working out daily, eating well. This improves your energy, skin tone, and is a sign of healthy body and mind

2. Focus on tour career/business: Nothing attracts a woman more than a successful man whose got ambitions and is making bank.

Sure you can try other tricks here or there amd get lucky sometimes but the most successful men in this area are usually healthy and financially well off.

Once you have those two locked in, everything else comes naturally.

I am 19 years old never gotten a girl or asked a girl before. I'm just scared and insecure about my looks, and I don't know why. Is it possible to go from never getting girls to getting girls?

I'm really depressed and lonely bc I feel that it might be over. I see fat people getting girls, people shorter than me. And I can't. I'm 23% bf, trying to get lean. Do you think the gym will help me get my confidence?

I truly need your advice, guys.

Back in January, I went on a coffee date with a woman I really liked. I thought it went well, but when I asked her out again, she politely declined, saying she enjoyed herself but didn't think a second date was right for her. I wished her well, and we haven't spoken since.

Here's the twist. At the time, I had a large neck mass that significantly distorted the shape of my face and jawline. Like an Apple sticking out the side of my neck. It was very noticeable. I didn't bring it up during the date because I thought antibiotics would clear it up, and I figured acting confident and not drawing attention to it was the best approach.

It turned out I needed major surgery to remove it. Nine months later, I've recovered, the mass is gone, I'm in better shape, and I look significantly different.

I have no idea whether my appearance contributed to her rejection, but I can't help wondering.

I'm considering reaching out, briefly mentioning the surgery, and asking if she'd be open to another coffee.

I know the odds are probably low, and I'm completely fine with another rejection. I'd just rather know than wonder.

Would reaching out once after nine months come across as creepy or desperate? And would you mention the surgery so she knows my appearance has changed, or leave it out entirely?

So, I have been or getting told every now and then that I am good looking/ handsome by strangers even in night life women (good looking) will approach me now and then or give strong IOIs and I will make my move.

But I do lowkey feel that I am not getting as much action as I can I think like I do go on dates from dating apps or approaches maybe like 1-2/ month this month I got 4 but they won’t convert mostly.

What could be up and how to fix that ? Or is it a normal thing.

EDIT (What I am doing and what is going on for more context 👇🏽)

It’s not only the night game like I also feel I am not landing enough dates I am located in Ireland, from where I am there were like more people to go on dates with.

Night game : plan is have fun actually enjoy dancing and you will get IOIs women will come to you or else give you IOIs get it dance with them make your move. Sometimes they do give IOIs but flake , so yeah escalation is sometimes an issue. So we would be making out and all but not be going home.

Day Game : When I go out which I don’t a lot if I am going out 10 times I will be getting dates or contacts 6 times out of that or sometime the ones from night game. And as I do not go out much or at places where would be a lot women I use apps currently in Ireland, Dublin the apps are pretty slow here maybe the population density. If I go to a more populated country landing it left right and centre.

Dates are pretty chill but they do not escalate it quite a few are boring, I take a rain check of what they are looking for as I won’t mind something long-term if it comes my way.

(Now please guide me through these problems 👆🏽)