I am a goth since adolescence, i'll sound older than I am by saying this but back in my days, what I most desired was that goth, and other subcultures would begin to be more popular, because in my innocent mind I thought the more popularized something gets, the more respect it gains, I was deeply wrong and I regret this yearn. Since the chronic 2000's anemoia my generation has been suffering from due to the emo revival in mid 2022, the more every mainstream subculture (Keep that up) gets distorted by individuals who only want to look unique and different, chase trends.

Now, I am not a filthy gatekeeper, I despise any kind of this, I always tried to inform other people with politeness about such topics I am interested in and learn about it more and more as i'm still not informed enough, but some of these people do not want to learn, they think they know everything about goth and others just by watching short, brief Tik Tok videos. If you disagree with the so called "Vampire of the night" or any shit like that, you get bullied, mocked, treated like shit. Thats not what a so called anti-conformist should do, now should they? I am not perfect either, I am a moderate Tik Tok user like most teenagers of our lord 2026, but it has become impossible to interact with such people of my age inside the community.

Notice how they always base their entire personality in being alt, nuffin elz. But wait! Only mainstream shit like i mentioned before, there's not rude boys, no skinheads, no flappers, no ravers... And the answer for this is pretty obvious, because they dont take research on anywhere else that isnt Tik Tok. Their knowledge about alt ends when their phone battery ends too. If they think the same, talk the same, write the same, dress the same, and only listen to the same 3 popular songs of The Cure and Bauhaus and still have the sicking balls to mock and exclude, dont feel inferior to them. As one of the mods of this subreddit said some posts ago, do not listen to Tik Tok kids.

I'm relatively new to goth music I mainly joined because I discovered what is now one of my favorite bands called euroshima l, and I've been listening to many different bands of the genre,which I really enjoy, but I haven't found any that sound simmilar to euroshima,if you have any recommendations pls do tell me, preferably in Spanish, no worries if it isn't. Hope this doesn't count as low effort posting if it does sorry

Thx for reading :D

Dammit I'm late this week so no fanfare or BS let's get straight to the moaning and fuming.

(Title unrelated to the songs but I stand by it)

came across this persons tiktok account and they’re claiming you can’t be goth if you don’t dress the part, even if you listen to the music ??? is this not nonsense? (Edit: I don’t use reddit often, so sorry that this was an annoying post. I wasn’t asking genuinely, more rehotorically because I’m in disbelief people like this exist haha.)

I've been collecting records for about 16 years and just this past couple years expanding my Goth selection. Bands in my selection so far: Deceits, Twin Tribes, Obskuros, Mouth Ulcers, Dark Chisme, She Past Away, TRAITRS, Ploho, The Kentucky Vampires, Bauhaus, Joy Division, Mochat Doma, The Cure, London After Midnight, HIM, The Sisters Of Mercy, and Elvira!

Darkwave acts French Police (Post Punk, Chicago) & Social Order (Synthpop, Las Vegas) played live at Charlotte, NC’s Neighborhood Theater in September 2026. Ash Reminisce took photos and reviewed the show for Charlotte Dark Scene.

Next Sunday in Birmingham... and it's a matinee!

This post isn't blaming anyone, I just wrote it to put the bigot infiltration into perspective so that we can prevent it from getting worse now.

Please read before commenting and listen to the experiences of the people directly affected/concerned by these situations. Listening and understanding are the ingredients to create safe spaces, so please refrain from calling bigots "fake goths", because:

1. This doesn't solve the fact that they are still among us.
2. Not recognising the issue prevents us from enacting any positive change.
3. This argument inadvertedly shuts down POC speaking up about their experiences with racism in goth spaces.

That being said, I have never seen anyone talk about this and I think we are at a great moment to do some retrospection.

MAGA goths are a thing now, but the subculture has been infiltrated and INFLUENCED by white supremacists over the decades, and I refer to honest to god nazis.

"Parfrey was co-editing the art magazine EXIT with George Petros. (Petros would go on to co-edit the 1990s music magazine Seconds, and become a contributing editor at the art magazine Juxtapoz and senior editor at the goth magazine Propaganda.)"

EXIT was a nazi magazine and I am not linking it here to not make it available, but is incredibly easy to find online. Also, it is super easy to find nazi symbols in Propaganda magazine, like the Combat 18 logo (a Totenkopf) on the covers, which looks worse with this context.

I know that the awful iconography was pretty trendy in alternative circles as a shock marketing strategy, but hiring people with a history of working in explicitly racist media is at the very least suspicious. Not to mention how this kind of "satire" makes any non white person feel really unsafe in alternative spaces.

None of this is new

Welcome to Self-Promo Saturdays, where you can post your own music!

Please ensure that it still fits within the subreddit rules and music genres guideline. Any dark post-punk, goth rock, deathrock, coldwave, darkwave, ethereal wave, etc. is absolutely fine!

So get posting your own songs, we look forwarding to listening.

A guy just said to me "I thought you were more goth" when I told him my fav song isn't a goth one. Clarification: Of course I really enjoy goth music; Tenochtitlan, Slice of Life, and Red Right Hand (though I heard he's not goth, I dunno) are some of my favorites! But still my fav is one from a non-goth band 'cause it was part of my "weird kid" childhood and adolescence.

I'm kinda new, I've only been in the scene for almost a year because I'm just now discovering my identity, so those comments sting a little as a baby bat, although I don't blame him, he thinks that gothic subculture was based solely on appearance.

¿What do you think about that? I don't know, those comments make me feel a little strange even though I know that I identify with and feel comfortable in the subculture and it's music, ideology, art, literature, etc, I actually feel less.

Good day to whoever is reading this btw 🖤

When Joy Division started they were considered goth pioneers. Of course this changed as New Order became more dance oriented. Their influence is indisputable to say the least. This will be an epic show 🙏.