r/exjw • • 1h ago

PIMO Life I used to think the Elders and Governing Body cared about me - as part of my waking up journey I had to realize they just don't care about you, me or anyone! It is reality.

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Governing Bdy Update #6 presents a shocking example of how Jehovah's Witness Elders and the Governing Body literally don't give a shit about anyone.

An endless number of Jehovah's Witnesses have died from following the No Blood doctrine, but let's be honest in saying that most JWs don't care, especially Elders.

There are endless posts here about the bullying, petty, ridiculous and harmful behavior exhibited by Elders toward JW adherents.

Why are they this way? They just don't care about you or anyone.

This can be a hard reality to swallow. It was for me.

But embracing this reality can help you move past the expectation that elders will treat people with care.

Remember, the elders are not your friends! Even if they seem like they are....they are not! They are loyal to the Governing Body only and the endlessly changing rules the GB dictates Jehovah's Witnesses must follow.

What do the Governing Body and Elders care about?

  • Keeping their role and title.
  • Stroking their egos by controlling others through a pseudo position of authority.
  • Recognition through "special privileges" that are handed out based on their devotion to the Governing Body and the Organization.
  • The GB, Helpers and Circuit Overseers care about preserving their celebrity-like existence as cult leaders with all the associated perks that go with it.

Are you new to visiting Reddit EXJW? The post below was written for you.

Welcome Jehovah's Witnesses! We are glad you are here! A welcome message and resources for you are shared in this post! (2026 Governing Body Update #6 - Blood Transfusions) - https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/1wkp3un/welcome_jehovahs_witnesses_we_are_glad_you_are/


r/exjw • • 8h ago

Venting What I realize about shunning

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My family, parents, siblings and their families are not in my life. I disassociated last December.

It’s been very painful to deal with. My mom told me that when she dies she doesn’t want me there.

I saw her in public and she cried uncontrollably and was shaking from emotion. I told her I loved her.

What I realize is that I was on a journey and my family were traveling with me, it was the JW journey. But NOW I’M ON A DIFFERENT JOURNEY AND IT’S COLORFUL AND FULL OF ADVENTURE!

And my family are not capable of traveling with me on my new journey. AND IT’S GOING TO BE OK!


r/exjw • • 4h ago

JW / Ex-JW Tales It's my birthday today. Only the third one I've ever celebrated. 🎂

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Today is my birthday!

I spent all of my life as one of Jehovah's Witnesses, this is only the third birthday I've ever celebrated.  And you know what? It still feels a little weird!

But my husband and children are pouring on the love today, and we're all going out for hibachi tonight.

For so many years, birthdays were just another day. Now I'm discovering how nice it feels to let the people I love celebrate me.

I'm curious about everyone else's experience.

Do you celebrate your birthday now? And if you do, how long did it take before it stopped feeling strange?

I'd love to hear your stories. ❤️


r/exjw • • 4h ago

Venting Blood transfusions announcement

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edit, for those who can't find the announcement it's here: https://www.jw.org/en/medical-library/

Ok I missed it... I dont come here often and don't pay attention - largely - to the stupid s#$% this religion spews out. Yesterday I learned about the blood stance and found it in their website today. I am filled with rage and disgust.

Two years ago my mom passed from cancer. It was a Tumor that could have been removed with surgery... surgery that required a blood transfusion. She refused and died 3 months later in hospice. Cancer ravaged her. She was not even recognizable when she finally passed. She cried out in pain for 3 days every 3 or 4 minutes all day. She was not aware of anything or her surroundings fortunately, but experiencing that scared me.

She was the most amazing person and I miss her everyday.

Now this religion publishes one of the most BS things I've ever read, even for them. Their published stance basically says this:

"Do whatever you want.. we won't stop you. But we were, and still are, right about blood transfusions."

People died for this belief. Yes, read it again... people died for this stance. And their announcement reads like "meh do whatever you want, but we're in the right".

Their stance is not a revelation of truth, a change in teaching, or process as a religion, or even a desire for the best life for their members. All the stance is: they are trying to now limit their litigation by washing their hands of it completely and shifting it to members to decide.

If they changed their stance and said "each member should decide, and make their own choices". Well, I probably would still be angry, but not even to the point I am now.

But they ended the verbiage with "our stance on blood remains unchanged"

They just had to throw in that last part...

Fk them and I hope hell is actually real.


r/exjw • • 3h ago

Selfie So a large group of Witnesses where on my street this morning...

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My family is pretty prominent in this community. I left 10 years ago, my wife 6 years ago. We are still in the same community. I did not recognize any of them from our old hall, neither did my wife. What was very interesting is that the purposely did not call on my house. I guess I am a DNC Apostate. I would have loved to plant some seeds of research in to the two young guys working our side of the street maybe 18-20 years old. Like who controlled the land of Israel during the time the Exodus would have happened?

Stuff they could easily research with out going into Apostate territory.


r/exjw • • 6h ago

WT Can't Stop Me Being a PIMI Jehovah’s Witness is like living with a disability. Let’s be kind to them and try to understand their limitations.

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Jehovah’s Witnesses are regularly subjected to sophisticated psychological manipulation techniques that make the way they function in the world highly peculiar. They are convinced of their own infallibility while refusing to educate themselves about the world around them using any sources other than the organization. These are people who have willingly placed themselves under the influence of a religious organization that dictates every aspect of their lives. And they’re happy there. THEY WANT TO BE THERE, AND THEY FUCKING LOVE FEELING SUPERIOR TO EVERYONE ELSE.
And we need to respect that.
Just as we wouldn’t suggest to a person with no legs that they go ice-skating, we shouldn’t suggest to a Jehovah’s Witness that they engage in a rational, fact-based discussion. These people NEED TO BE TREATED AS SICK AND DISABLED. That means acknowledging their limitations, not pressuring them on sensitive issues, and not parading their stupidity and naivety in front of the whole world.
As people who “know the truth about the truth,” we have a duty to set an example of what it means to be a decent human being. We shouldn’t demand things of them that they are simply incapable of delivering: logical, unbiased thinking, independent decision-making, or a sober assessment of reality.
Some people are born without an arm. Others end up in a wheelchair after a devastating accident. And Jehovah’s Witnesses are disabled too.
Because how else are we supposed to explain a life like that?


r/exjw • • 1h ago

Venting Context matters……………………..

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One thing I’ve noticed about some Christians, particularly Jehovah’s Witnesses, is how casually they sometimes misrepresent the Bible. They will say, “Jehovah tells us,” and then proceed to read a passage from Paul’s letter to Timothy. Or they will say, “Jehovah is telling us,” and quote something from Habakkuk. But hold on a minute. Jehovah did not directly tell u sh*t.
Paul was writing a letter to Timothy, a particular individual, at a particular time, under particular circumstances. In fact, if you read the entire letter, you will find personal instructions, references to specific individuals, and even greetings.

That should tell you something about its original context. Why not simply say, “Paul wrote this to Timothy, and here is what we can learn from it”? Or, “Jesus said this to his disciples, and here is how we might apply that teaching today”? I think that is a much more intellectually honest and respectful way to approach the Bible.

I am not suggesting that ancient biblical writings cannot contain valuable lessons for modern readers. Of course they can. My problem is with the tendency to erase the distinction between what a biblical writer originally said, whom he was addressing, and what someone today believes God wants us to understand from it. Those are three different things. Even if you believe the Bible is inspired by God, that does not mean every statement in it should automatically be presented as a direct instruction from God to people living today. Context matters.

Authorship matters. The original audience matters. And interpretation matters. When you casually turn every biblical statement into “Jehovah tells us,” you give your own interpretation an authority it has not necessarily earned. And I think that is precisely how people end up making the Bible say almost anything they want it to say. How do you think they came up with the 1914 and 1919 teachings???? Or the numerous other teachings that they have. It started with “Jehovah tells us”..


r/exjw • • 12h ago

Venting A deal with the devil!!!!

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If you pay attention to US politics you may have seen Jared Kushner's name coming up, being exposed by the Dutch government as a corrupt POS treasonous war criminal.

This is just a reminder that the JW overlords sold property in Brooklyn to him for around 340 MILLION DOLLARS in 2016. The sale of all their Brooklyn real estate is over 2 BILLION DOLLARS.

Was any of that money funnelled back into the pockets of the destitute brothers and sisters in need across the world? Or did they just continue to constantly beg for more money, making them feel guilted into donating?

How can these people claim such moral high ground, above everyone else in the WORLD, but still sell to one of the most disgusting families in history?

Because they are nothing but a business parading as religion, corrupt just like anyone else whose worth starts with a B.


r/exjw • • 7h ago

HELP How do I handle people texting me from the congregation?

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It's been about 2–3 months since I stopped attending meetings. Before that, I was slowly fading. At first, only sisters I was on good terms with reached out to ask how I was doing and where I'd been. (It took my group overseer two months to notice that I wasn't attending.) I took my time replying to them and explained that I was struggling mentally, which is true, and needed some time alone.

For the past week or two, I've stopped replying to everyone.

But now it's gotten to the point where even people I barely talked to are texting me, including brothers and elders.

(My mom is PIMI, and I can't just tell them that I no longer want to be a JW. She would kill me. I'm moving out soon, but even then she would emotionally abuse me for it. We are in different conversations. I pretend to go to the meetings and just take a walk in the city, or I'm on zoom. So she doesn't know I haven't been to the meetings.)

Part of me appreciates that people are reaching out, while another part feels pressured, watched, and guilty about pulling away.

I miss my friends and the community, and sometimes I even think about going back to the Kingdom Hall. But I can't pretend to agree with the doctrines anymore.

What do I do in this situation?


r/exjw • • 9h ago

Activism + Advocacy " ITS NOW A MATTER OF PERSONAL CONSCIENCE" - The best weapon WT is free handing to deconstructed activists

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I Just saw a video on Youtubbe Channel EX JW Analyzer and aparently the Borg website for Japan says something along the line " the way witnesses choose to treat a removed person is a matter of conscience "

That being the case it means that along with the blood issue the other major pillar of WT doctrine is now a matter of "personal choice"...at least in Japan.

I think this is the best "weapon" WT could ever give to activists because by doing this WT is throwing the R&F under the bus so to speak.

Nothing stunts more an individual JW ( given how so selfrighteous most of them are) than being acused of being a bad person...

First and foremost even if it takes a long time any intellectualy honest person will have to come to the conclusion that most JWs are neither just misguided "victims" nor "victims-prepretrators" but are actually out right shitty human beings and dispicable people.

And these chnages allow fully deconstructed activists to tackle precisely that point.

BECAUSE a JW can no longer justify these actions/ choices as being a " devine law" they are bound to obey at all costs.

What this allows activists to do?

ACUSE THEM OUT RIGHT AND PERSONALLY

- Oh you let your child or your elderly parent die by not allowing them a blood transfusion by "personal choice" ?

That shows how much of dispicable shitty human being you are

- Same acusation can be thrown about the way they treat disfellowshipped people specially direct family

Food for Thought

Edit - spelling/grammar


r/exjw • • 6h ago

News A famous Brazilian TikToker made a video about doctrinal changes within Jehovah’s Witnesses - Iuri Piragibe

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They discuss a wide range of topics, including changes to predictions about the end of the world over the years, changes in their policies on blood transfusions, ostracism, abuse cases, and much more.

The video was originally produced in Brazilian Portuguese, with automatic English and Spanish dubbing available on YouTube.

It is also available on Instagram and TikTok.

https://youtu.be/Qm0SDtFkvCk?is=aaEt3w3Y53zGr4OE


r/exjw • • 1h ago

HELP preparing to leave home and the cult. calling everyone who has advice!!

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Pretty self explanatory title. I'm preparing to leave home and go fully POMO, possibly no contact with certain family, and hopefully get into a college. This is super intimidating, but I'm trying to break it down and gather as much information as I can.

I'm finishing up my last year of HS currently. My parents have never prioritized teaching us about how to survive on our own which has led both of my older brothers (23 and 25) to still live at home, the oldest without a job and no responsibilities. I simply refuse to be like that even without the toxicity of the cult. I want to be as educated and prepared as I can be before that leap is taken.

My main goal of this post is for anybody who has done similar things to drop the best advice you know or wish you knew so I can make a list. This also applies to just anyone who has advice regarding college, finances, roommates, finding somewhere to live, etc. Genuinely anything and everything.

I will be moving (along with my family) into the Portland, OR area within a year or two where I have a car waiting for me, so anyone who has/does live around there is especially welcome to throw in your two cents.

Thank you to any and all who contribute.


r/exjw • • 39m ago

WT Can't Stop Me Trying to find one specific JW Illustration— Help, please!

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Hey folks! I’m an artist and I was a “born in the truth” JW up until I ran away to college at 18 in 2020 (what a time, huh?).

I graduated from art school two years ago with a BFA, and most of the time, my artwork is about my Mexican-American identity and human rights activism. But occasionally, every now and then when the memories resurface, I make artwork about my experience being a PIMO JW.

This time around, I have an idea for a silk screen print and painting inspired by a WT illustration that I just cannot get out of my head! I need to do it!!!! But I want to be as faithful to the illustration as possible and find the image as a reference, but I cannot find it for the life of me.

The image I’m thinking of is two illustrations: one is a snake biting the heel of Jesus/a nameless person’s foot, and the other is of Jesus/a nameless person’s foot absolutely squashing the hell out of the snake’s head.
I vividly remember thinking at 6 years old, “Damn. This guy is putting some real gumption into that.”
But maybe that’s just brain-generated hyperbole because I was 6 and was very impacted by the image.

Anyway, I’ve searched the internet and nothing!
Does anyone here know what images I’m talking about, and can you attach them to the thread or send a link?

Thank you so much!!

Edit 1: Found one of the images!!! One more to go!! Still in search of the one where the snake is biting the heel


r/exjw • • 8h ago

News Marshnee Pillay recounts leaving Jehovah’s Witnesses after her baby needed a transfusion - Post South Africa

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Marshnee Pillay recounts leaving Jehovah’s Witnesses after her baby needed a transfusion

https://thepost.co.za/news/2026-10-08-marshnee-pillay-recounts-leaving-jehovahs-witnesses-after-her-baby-needed-a-transfusion/


r/exjw • • 5h ago

Ask ExJW Advice requested: Meeting up with my former JW best friend.

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I was 19 when I left the organization, leaving my best friend and everyone else I knew behind. I was in her wedding, I saw her in the hospital the day her child was born, we had been very close. Leaving her behind was so hard, I never stopped loving her, I never stopped missing her.

Fast forward another 19-ish years and here we are: I reached out to her online and to my complete shock she replied! We’re going to meet up, we have a lunch scheduled! She knows I’m not a JW, I was honest and up front about it.

To be clear, I have no desire to change her mind about her faith, I am not going into this with a mindset of trying to “wake her up.” I want to be kind, friendly, respectful, and catch up about our lives because I still care deeply and think of her often. I recognize that she may try to preach to me or give me literature, and I want to be prepared for that as there is 0% chance of me ever returning to the organization. I’m a little bit anxious and looking for advice: what should I say if she tries to preach? What should I say if she asks why I left? Is it better to be honest and risk offending her, or should I just stay vague about my reasons? Anything else I should do or not do?


r/exjw • • 17h ago

Ask ExJW Why so much hate towards Lloyd Evans?

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I understand that some people are upset about his lifestyle.

But I find very bizarre how this sub behaves like ants when you smash the nest

To be honest I would not be writing in this sub without Lloyd Evans.

I watch different Exjw creators.

But without a few exceptions many were terrible.

Creators like Kim Mikey didn't help me much either

When I was exiting there were only a few I can name.

Like Lloyd,Kim Mikey and Six Screens

So I don't know what to say about it.


r/exjw • • 10h ago

JW / Ex-JW Tales It's been a while since I saw one of these bs

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https://i.ibb.co/sJdFKBNS/IMG-20261024-194643.jpg

I was just walking around our condo village when I noticed a few people watching something on a projector at one of our commercial buildings. Out of curiosity, I walked towards them, and as I got closer, something very familiar caught my eye. I started to recognize it and told myself, "No fucking way."

It's been a while since I last saw one of these monthly broadcasting videos, I DAed 5 years ago. It definitely brought back some of my JW memories, lol.

I saw the faces of the ppl watching it, and most of them were not paying attention and some were bored af. The kids were looking irritated as well. I feel sorry for those kids, they should be playing or doing something fun considering it's Saturday night. It definitely reminds me of my boring pathetic jw childhood.


r/exjw • • 10h ago

Ask ExJW Pimi will reden. hallo da draußen

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Hi, I’m 29, PIMI, married, and was basically “born” as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses. I’m convinced of quite a lot of things, but definitely not everything. For example, the whole blood issue and the ban on celebrating birthdays have always seemed like bullshit to me. I also believe that a lot of things in the Bible are meant to be symbolic, such as the entire story of Adam and Eve.

I’m a ministerial servant and, overall, I’m pretty happy because the moral standards and the strictness (back then) kept me away from a lot of bad things. I also have many friends in my congregation who are ministerial servants as well, and I can talk openly with them about these kinds of topics.

I also feel like things are moving in the right direction. There’s less control, and everything is becoming less strict.

A few questions for you guys:

- After leaving, do you still believe in God and the Bible?

- Was everything about being one of Jehovah’s Witnesses really bad?

- What do you think about the current changes regarding how strict things are?

I come in peace. ✌️


r/exjw • • 9h ago

Venting A lil trauma dump about “Love” I wrote that hopefully help someone feel understood <3

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here’s a prettier page if u wanna easier read my notion

“Struggling to understand love doesn’t mean you’re incapable of loving someone.”
When you grow up in an environment where love is ties to obedience, approval and fear, you learn a version of love that feels very different from the love you’re trying to experience now.
Since i’ve spent my whole life learning one version of love it can be incredibly confusing to discover that love might be something else entirely.

How love may have never felt real to me.
Being raised in a controlling religious environment, love can become something i had to earn rather than something i felt safe receiving.
I learned that being a good daughter meant being obedient, that making the right choices means pleasing my family, and that being loved means living in a way that other people approve of. I started to infuse love with acceptance.
From a young age i would stress and think
If I disappoint someone, will they still love me?

If i become someone they don’t approve of, will i still be worthy of their love?

If i stop doing what people expect of me, will they abandon me?

Do they love me for who i am, or for who ive been taught to be?

How can i feel secure in someones love when a part of me is always wondering what would happen if i showed them parts of myself they might not accept?
Love only felt real when i was doing everything right but conditional when i started becoming my own person (16ish).
It made it difficult to trust love, even when someone genuinely cared about me. I learned to associate love with the possibility of losing it. Because of this, the idea of losing someone feels so much bigger than ordinary fear of rejection.

Why it may be hard for me now to receive love.

Receiving love requires a lot of vulnerability. You’ll have to allow another person to see you, i hated this. I hated the thought of letting someone see parts of myself im uncertain about.
But what happens when you’ve learned that certain thoughts, feelings, questions, or decisions could make people see me differently? YOU LEARN TO PROTECT YOURSELF.
I hid what i really thought. I struggled to explain my feelings because ive spent years questioning whether those feelings are appropriate in the first place. I found myself overthinking how someone will react before i even considered what i was going to say.
I realized this recently with Nic. I feel uncomfortable that he loves me in a way that doesn’t require me to prove myself. Being loved without having to earn it felt so unfamiliar.
When you’re used to measuring your worth through how well you meet other people’s expectations, unconditional acceptance can feel almost impossible to trust.
I find myself waiting for the other shoe to drop. I wonder when someone will become disappointed in me, discover something they don’t like, or decide that I’m no longer the person they thought i was. Therefore, i may pull away emotionally before anyone has the opportunity to hurt me.
It’s a way of protecting myself from a possibility that feels frightening, even when the person in front of me hasn’t given me a reason to expect it.

Why showing love might be difficult
Receiving love and expressing love are two different things. You can care deeply for someone and still struggle to show them what they mean to you.
Since i wasn't given much freedom to explore my own identity, I didn’t have very many opportunities to learn how to express my needs, boundaries, preferences, and emotions without worrying about the consequences.
I learned how to be a good person according to other peoples standards without learning how to be emotionally open as myself.
How this showed up in relationships:
I keep things inside. I feel things deeply, but when its time to explain, my mind goes blank.

I wanted myself down. I hide parts of my personality or opinions because im afraid of how someone may respond.

I struggle to be vulnerable. I want someone to understand me, but allowing them to see the real me sounds threatening.

I overthink my actions. I worry if im a good enough girlfriend, daughter, or partner instead of asking myself when I genuinely feel.

I struggle to recognize my own needs. I’m so accustomed to considering what other people expect that identifying what i want can be difficult.
I want to be able to show someone i care, but i have not learned how to express affection without feelings exposed or awkward. I want to feel understood but im not sure how to explain myself. And ill have to take risk.

How growing up this way might affect romantic love
Romantic relationships bring these struggles to the surface because they ask you to do something i may not have has much practice doing: built a relationship based on my own choices, rather than on the expectorations of people around me.
I for the first time have to figure out what i want, communicate what i want, disagree with someone without assuming the relationship is in danger, and allow Nic to know me without constantly editing myself.
Since I’ve spent ears trying to avoid disappointing people, those things can be awfully terrifyifing.
I fear that if Nic sees those pats of me that are confusing, uncertain, angry, or imperfect, he might think differently of me.
I also feel guilty for not being as emotionally open as i think i should be.
I recently realized, **i cannot build the kind of intimacy im longing for while feeling that i have to hide parts of myself to preserve the relationship.
Little by little, healthy love gives you room to become more myself rather than requiring me to disappear to keep it.**
I can disappear and still be loved. I can make mistakes without having to speak to 2 old wrinkly men. I can make mistakes and still be worthy of tenderness. I CAN CHANGE MY MIND WITHOUT BECOMING A BAD PERSON. I can have feelings that someone doesn’t understand without those feelings becoming wrong. I can grow.
The strangest part of learning this is realizing that love isn’t something i have to constantly prove i deserve. I can simply be a person who is learning, growing, making mistakes, and trying to understand herself.

It’s October 21, 2026 and I almost broke up with Nic bebacuse I thought i needed to heal through everything before im capable of finally loving someone. I know now i can love someone now and still be learning how to communicate, trust, and be vulnerable.
I also don’t have to blame myself for he ways i learned to protect myself.
I’m a work in progress. But im so close.


r/exjw • • 16h ago

HELP Help with a JW employer at work

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Context: Since August 1st, my husband and I have stopped attending meetings and are now inactive members (Pomo), with no intention of returning. In my area, I was recommended two years ago because I am a Jehovah's Witness, and I started working for a female leader who owns a small business. She pays me well, I enjoy my work, and I have a good time.

She attends meetings at another congregation in the city, and so far, she hasn't asked me about my inactivity or why I don't attend meetings or assemblies. But the time will come, and I don't know how to handle it. Should I anticipate it and tell her about my "spiritual" status within the organization, or just wait for her to ask and tell her frankly that I have matters of conscience and we decided not to meet anymore?

I've been living a double life for a few months now, but I know it will reach a point where it becomes unsustainable. If I'm no longer bound by the fear of Jehovah, I want to enjoy worldly celebrations with my family and my little one—celebrate his birthday for the first time, buy a Christmas tree, and so on. But having to do things in secret to keep my job is wearing me down.

Thanks for reading.


r/exjw • • 8h ago

Ask ExJW Children who grew up with a JW parent and a Pentecostal parent or a JW parent and any other doctrine

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How did you cope, and what were some things you wished they did differently concerning how their different doctrines affected you?.


r/exjw • • 3h ago

WT Can't Stop Me Planning the visit Kingdom Hall tomorrow, what are some topics I should bring up/ask about?

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I Was raised Jehovah's Witness but never baptised, I faded gradually through my teens/twenties and now haven't regularly attended meetings for about eight years

However I like to check meetings out on rare occasion and tomorrow is one of them, I'm wondering if there's any good ideas of topics to bring up when I inevitably get surrounded

I'm Planning to mention the blood doctrine change, anyone got any other ideas?


r/exjw • • 1d ago

WT Can't Stop Me Ok, this week's Watchtower is crazy!

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This week's wt is about "An appeal based on love". It talks about Philemon and Onesimus who were human trafficker and slave respectively. Onesimus ran away from Philemon, met Paul and decided to become a "good-for-nothing slave"(,Luk 17:10) to The Lord Jesus (who promises that his yoke is really light) and also becomes friends with Paul. Paul learns about his past tho and as a loving friend writes to Onesimus' former abuser the bible book Philemon which would sound better like this 'Hey um I know that like used to work for you (I mean without pay but we can all agree paying a person for work is a crazy idea)and like I wanted to know if he can come back and you know don't be a bitch about it or sth'. Paul(known for being regularly imprisoned and presumed to have died in prison) wanted to be a good citizen and follow the law, and make Onesimus do the same,that runaway slaves should go back to their traffickers so not very questionable or unloving behavior towards his 'friend' Onesimus.

In the same vein Jehovah decided to put The letter to Philemon as part of the bible canon incase people were confused whether in between providing a loophole for killing slaves(Exodus 21:21) and killing his own son as an act of love to forgive humans God had changed his views on slavery(human trafficking)

Of course as a black person in Africa I don't think Christianity is for me

Anyway Watchtower has some few things they want you to learn from this

P10........something that sounds simple but is often difficult to do. He admitted his mistake and did his part to reconcile with Philemon. Onesimus surely knew that Roman law required that he return to his master. So he made a costly and exhausting trip of over 1,400 kilometers (900 mi) to return to Philemon. He had to be willing to give up his freedom and possibly accept other consequences for his actions. That could not have been an easy choice. And what if he felt that he was justified in running away from Philemon?...

Notice that Onesimus had made a mistake by uhmm running away from slavery. In fact we're not really sure whether he should have 'felt justified in running away ' y'kno

If you're wondering what the best way of describing a human trafficker (slave owner) is WT has got you covered

P13...Philemon loved his brothers. (Philem. 5) Philemon lived up to his name, which means “Loving.” He was known for his outstanding love, a quality that would be key in forgiving Onesimus...

Yeah 😤 a slave owner was known for his outstanding love(from the authors of shunning is a loving provision so some consistency across the board).


r/exjw • • 23h ago

Venting Can't elders understand what busy means

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I was previously "caught" holding hands with my non jw gf and there was a picture that was taken and sent to the elders I already made a post about that, two of the elders in my congregation have been so adamant in wanting to meet with me for a short shepherding visit and to probably potentially talk to me about that. I've followed the advice of the people here to refuse to meet with them, I've never agreed to meet and I've always been delaying it, I also had the good and reasonable excuse that my mid-term exams are this week so yes in truth I am busy. I thought they could at least understand that, now they reached out to my brother (an ms) and told him they were gonna meet me at our place later this afternoon, even tho I never agreed to meet in the first place, I also made it clear last time I'm extremely busy these days, I've had days when I had no sleep whatsoever and in times like these are when every minute count. But I guess they decided all that worldly crap can go out the window since this takes priority. I also have plans arranged to go out the time they said they'll be coming so it's also possible they might assume I'm avoiding them. If you guys have more advice to say I'd appreciate it, thanks in advance.


r/exjw • • 21h ago

Meetup Anyone want to make exjw friends?

47 Upvotes

I’m sure most, if not all of us, have dealt with the reality or the fear of our PIMI friends abandoning us. Leaving the JWs really messes up your entire social circle, leaving us searching for new connections at non-traditional points in life.

Earlier this year, I lost my PIMI best friends, in a way that was significantly worse than I’d expected from them. This religion does a great job of making people act in twisted ways…

So I was thinking, why not have a thread for anyone who wants to make exjw friends? If you’re comfortable, share a few things about yourself, such as your time zone/general location, age or age range, gender, and a few interests or things you’d like any potential friends to know about you. If someone seems like a good fit, you can dm each other! :)

If that’s too much to reveal publicly but you still want to make new connections, feel free to post a comment asking for dms.

I’m 28F, originally from the PNW, USA, but currently living in the Southeastern USA. I’m exploring spirituality and psychology, and I enjoy looking into spiritual/religious/pseudoscientific topics with a grain of salt. I created a fake kpop group with my friends as a joke, but now we’re actually writing songs for it! I have four cats, love nature/animals, and am a vegetarian (but I won’t judge if you’re not!) A few exjw friends and I play Stardew Valley once in a while, if you’re into that.

Looking forward to meeting you!!