r/civilengineering • u/Andrew_64_MC • 13h ago
Question How common is it for your state/locality to run a “green arrow” simultaneously with a pedestrian crossing?
I’m fairly new to the traffic engineering industry, but I’ve always understood the following signal rules to apply when driving in the USA:
• Green arrow = protected right, left, or u-turn with no other conflicts
• Green ball = permission to travel straight, permissive right, left, or u-turn where you may be yielding to pedestrians and/or other vehicles
• Flashing yellow arrow = same as above for turns except you will be yielding to pedestrians and/or other vehicles
• Red arrow = must stop, not allowed to turn right or left
• Red ball = must stop, may turn right on red when safe to do so or left on red if both intersecting streets are a one-way
All of the above assume no additional signage restrictions like “No Turn On Red” or “U-Turn Yield To Right Turn” for example.
Recently, I had a jurisdiction in another part of my state trying to argue this configuration was fine for a brand new intersection. Obviously pedestrians always have the right of way, but this configuration fundamentally feels wrong. Am I crazy to push back?
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