Discussion What type of fire starter do you keep?
I have a preference towards the magnesium fire starters with ferro rod like pictured, but was wondering what else people were using besides a Bic lighter.
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r/bugout • u/TheSt0rmCr0w • Feb 02 '14
SO, shit has officially hit the fan, and it’s time to BUGOUT! Are you ready? Probably not, but you’ve taken the first step to getting there: thinking about it! You may ask,”What's the point of a bugout bag? This post details things pretty well. Bugging out is when a scenario such as natural disaster, fire, end of the world, nuclear war yada yada prevents you from coming or staying home. Check /r/collapse and /r/EOTW if you're interested in speculating on end of the world possibilities. Here here you can find some good responses going into further detail about why bugout. Essentially the idea of bugging out means leaving your place of residence when things get bad and getting to a bugout location, where there is a set of supplies and things necessary to keep you alive. Some people have don’t have a bug out location, others just a cabin in the woods with a creek nearby, while a few go to the extreme of having underground bunkers (ever seen the show preppers?) and everywhere in between. Everyone is in different stages of preparedness, so don’t feel bad if you aren’t able to be where someone else is.
EDIT 4/28/2014: I just read a great post that take a different stance on bugout, and is definitely worth a read. The TLDR would be keep things simple. Something i left out of this post was the idea of taking the route of least resistance. If you can keep a few hundred bucks in your bag to buy a plane ticket to a relatives house away from danger, that's probably going to be your most valuable tool. Worth a read, some good conversation in the comments, but remember: what works for someone else might not work for you
There is also another idea of bugging in, meaning staying home in case of a SHTF(Shit hit the fan) scenario. This entails having a bag, but also having enough supplies to sustain you and your family for a stretch of time.
There are also different kinds of bags, there’s the large, 72 hr bag, meant to sustain you for-well… 72 hours. Then the GHB(get home bag) meant to get you from work or somewhere back home in the case of not being able to drive or get a flight for whatever reason. GHB are typically smaller and lighter than 72 hour bags.
I’m going to reference a lot of helpful posts in this FAQ, big ones being the “So you think you know…” series by /u/ghostmcspiritwolf who is still quite active in this sub, so if you find them helpful, take the time to give him gold, he put a lot of work into them.
Getting started: You're going to need a bag, otherwise your arms will be full. This post from/u/nexquietus is VERY detailed about getting started with a bag and the essentials. Very detailed, but remember, what works for someone else may not work for you. All the gear in the world is useless unless you have the know-how. A staple of most every kit is the SAS Survival book, be sure to know a lot of it by memory, in case you need that knowledge ASAP. There’s debate about colors of bags and if it could compromise your safety. One side argues that digital camo looks cool but makes you a target because you have things of value, like water. The other says either it doesn't make a difference or even that tactical looking packs have an intimidation factor, something along the lines of “That guy looks like he knows what he’s doing, better not fuck with him.” I will not give my view but be aware you may get criticized for having a “tacticool”(read: wannabe/yuppie) bag.
Clothes: If it’s cold where you live, keep a spare jacket in there or nearby. A good way to think about it is if you had to leave your house RIGHT NOW and could only grab the bag, would you be able to survive for a few days with just the contents. If it’s 10 degrees out, and you’re in pajamas, it would be a struggle. /u/ghostmcspiritwolf made a great guide to clothing and boots and is a great read when getting started. Be aware clothing needs vary with latitude and season, and adjust your bag accordingly. You can live only 3 hours without warmth.
Water: You NEED a means to carry and purify water. Many people include emergency water packets like this, also people have water bladders similar to camelbaks and basic bottles of water. The benefit of having water on hand is that you know it’s safe to drink. If you have to collect water, it may have different organisms or parasites living in it, so be sure to have either some water purification tabs or a filter like the lifestraw or Platypus. Here’s /u/ghostmcspiritwolf’s guide on water and purification. You can only live 3 days without water.
Food: Food is a tough one. Food options are MRE’s, Freeze dried food packs, high calorie bars, trail mix, jerky etc. Everyone has a different preference, and the amount you carry will be different in a GHB as opposed to a 72 hour bag. Others opt to instead carry just hunting/fishing gear, but make sure you are going to be in an area where you can hunt and or fish well and legally. You might have to cook some of that food so maybe choose to include a small stove in you kit. There are many light options that run on a variety of fuels, it’s up to you which works best for you. Maybe just get an aluminum cup that goes over your canteen to double as a pot.You’re going to need roughly 2000-3000 calories a day, plan accordingly. Here’s the link to the ‘So you think you know’ post on food and cooking.
medical questions one , two , Three, there's a multitude of medical advice on this sub, so just use the search bar. Adventure medical kits makes good starters, I personally started out with a sports first aid kit and added to that.
Guns. Many people carry guns in their BOB's, many dont. It's personal preference but regardless, MAKE SURE YOU ARE LEGAL!!!!! That ranges from making sure you are old enough, to making sure you have valid licenses/permits if you're state required to have them. Guns are great tools, but like every other tool; you HAVE to know how to use it! That tacticool 1911 won't get you far if you aren't keeping it clean and staying practiced with it. This post has some good info about things to bring with firearms in a BOB. Always be sure to follow the four laws of handling a firearm, and again, the gun is useless if you suck at using it.
Tools: Multitools are great for BOB’s because they serve multiple purposes. Leatherman makes a lot of models for any situation. One I see on this sub a lot is the leatherman squirt take that for what you will. There’s a lot a controversy about types of steel and brand names, but I won’t get into that. If you need to chop wood get an axe, a small axe. Some people swear by kukri’s others by nothing other than a real, American made axe, but again, I won’t pick sides. No matter what you choose, it’s generally accepted that a minimum of three types of blades is fine: folder, belt, other. Remember that every tool you have, it’s more weight you’re going to have to carry on you back. Make every tool worth it’s weight in gold and be proficient enough with it to know how to do that. Here’s the so you think you know guide to tools.
Odds and ends not always thought about. Here, and here are posts regarding your pets in a bug out scenario. I will continue to add off the wall posts to this section as i find them.
Please post pictures of your setup! The people here know a lot and can give you good critiques on your setup. Thanks for reading, and thank you for being prepared to BUGOUT!
I have a preference towards the magnesium fire starters with ferro rod like pictured, but was wondering what else people were using besides a Bic lighter.
r/bugout • u/NotSoAveragea • 3d ago
Hello, I am gonna be straight to the point. I live in Latvia and close to a border and work even closer.
I should have done this prep years ago but oh well, now I want to do it again.
What I am looking for is any tips for some kits where me and 2 others in my family (both adults). I am the only one doing this, they have no interest. But I still want to make one when it happens.
Should I better make 3 kits or 1 or 2 bigger ones?
As an example, the typical commercial family packs I’ve seen seem pretty lackluster.
I am good with tech. So far what I have is a folding solar panel (30w tested), 140w fast charging 24k power bank, loopgear flashlight, atak offline maps, meshcore radios. I am also planning of getting the h2o global and the prepared airmen sawyer kit.
r/bugout • u/Abject_Ability_4152 • 7d ago
Do you think nonslip shoes are an upgrade from just normal sneakers? There are a lot of nonslip shoes that are in the style of sneakers, are extra cushioned for extended wear, are water resistent, and are designed to make slipping on wet surfaces less likely. I think a step up from that would of course be actual hiking boots, but I just wanted to bring attention to a possible middle option between walking shoes and hiking boots. They blend well in urban settings as well, because they can look like normal sneakers.
r/bugout • u/Stormcloud217 • 14d ago
Just showing off some old gear. I'm constantly using the small CRKT knife to cut onions, garlic, steak, etc. The small knife was gifted to me 15+ years ago and I put the paracord on the handle immediately after receiving the gift, during a drive while moving.
The Jansport bag is the star, it has a very interesting design with a clamshell zipper allowing access to main pouch, then 2 pockets, a small mesh pocket and a long zipper pocket. Picked up the bag from a thrift store 15 years ago and was gifted the Gerber saw 15 years ago which typically comes with me on woodland adventures.
Just reminiscing on old gear. I have more fun stuff if you want to see it. But overall I use the knives almost everyday for cooking. The Jansport bag was less than $10 and I've always considered it as some mythical shaman bag. Taken it on 20 mile bicycle rides and overnight camping trips as a survival/medical pouch.
r/bugout • u/Conscious-Train170 • Sep 17 '26
Let's say you live in a high rise and already have enough supplies to sustain you, would the risks of sheltering in place outweigh the benefits? How would you deal with securing the entrance? Are you prepared in the event of looters? What advice can you share?
r/bugout • u/ApprehensiveBad5223 • Sep 16 '26
My current country may come to a point very soon where I might be forced to leave. I'm packing a bag in case SHTF, so I don't have to leave with just the clothes on my back. I can grab my bag and go.
I am only 1 person, and I plan to travel to the Netherlands. I have time right now to learn some Dutch and save money for a visa/permit just in case. I will travel by commercial plane, and I cannot drive.
What should I pack?
r/bugout • u/Blackdominio • Sep 15 '26
I live in a densely populated city and work in an even more dense city. So if im not at one of two big cities I am on the Highway between those.
There are no relatives living outside of population centres.
Now, if the shtf what should I do?
- Stay inside one of the cities, as I have most of my supplies in my car anyway
- Try to escape with my car and hope for the best
r/bugout • u/Spydercuck • Aug 29 '26
I'm very much in the PRS scene and this question got thrown out there when I was speaking with some of my buddies while we were shooting. It got me curious what everyone would take?
Assuming finding wasn't an issue I'd choose the 6.8 Western or 30-06 perhaps. How about you?
r/bugout • u/Ronin-2004907 • Aug 25 '26
ok so I'm running a 308 rig with 7 mags, 6 20-rounders and two 25s
That's 170 rounds of 308
And the standard is 210, but that's in 556. Should I still match that?
And if I were to have all that, should I carry more bullets in stripper clips
And I understand there's more to carry.
r/bugout • u/DrSidewayZracing • Aug 19 '26
The geopolitical and economic fallout that lies ahead could be profound. Some forecasts suggest that as much as 75% of today’s jobs could be significantly impacted or replaced by automation by 2028. Whether that figure ultimately proves accurate or not, the underlying trend is undeniable: AI-driven automation is advancing at a pace that society has never experienced before. During the Industrial Revolution, the disruption was gradual, relatively predictable, and measurable. Industries transformed over decades, giving communities and institutions time however imperfectly to adapt.
The AI revolution may be fundamentally different. We could see a transition that happens almost like a light switch: entire departments replaced seemingly overnight by systems capable of operating 24 hours a day, seven days a week, without fatigue, benefits, or the limitations of a human work schedule.
The question we need to be asking is not simply, “What jobs will AI replace?” It is, “What happens to civil society when millions of people lose not only their livelihoods, but also the sense of identity, purpose, and stability that employment provides?”
History tells us that periods of profound economic disruption can produce unpredictable social and political reactions. Knee jerk responses are inevitable. You need to be prepared to interpret react and pivot to that knee jerk reaction.
The objective isn’t to predict every outcome. It’s to be prepared to interpret, react, and pivot when the changes occur.
r/bugout • u/Hummblerummble • Aug 15 '26
I've been working on a bare minimum bug out bag that requires a quick trip to the grocery store to buy a few pack/ camp improvements.
I'm modeling the bug out bag off of American hobo culture, or things that all fit in a sock or a bindle. A tin cup, small sewing kit, small first aid kit, matches, compass, cash, etc.
The plan is to pack as light as possible to make the greatest distance before getting more supplies. That first supply run will better round out my kit. A wool blanket, a tarp, and food stuffs with convenient containers. A wide mouth pickle jar, Talenti sorbet jar, and a couple #10 cans of something like fruit or hominy that can be eaten or drunk in a day without causing health problems. I can't eat a #10 can of pickled jalapenos in a day, that's just ridiculous.
I'd also like any suggestions of other supplies with useful containers like cocoa in a good tin to keep coffee beans in or wooden boxes for tea or the like.
r/bugout • u/spcec0wby • Aug 06 '26
With my first kid due in a few weeks it's got me thinking about what I would need to add to my kit besides the obvious like diapers or formula what else have you guys added to cover the needs of a baby or just children in general
r/bugout • u/IKIR115 • Aug 04 '26
For anyone not familiar with the penny stove, it’s a fun and simple DIY project!
Benefits:
Uses very little fuel and can be used with a variety of fuel sources, like the HEET that’s shown in the video (available at any gas station), but works best with denatured alcohol
(home improvement store).
The penny acts as a fuel pressure regulator.
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There’s many variations of this, so the one shown the video is only one example.
In a pinch, the minimum items you need to make one is are 2 empty aluminum cans, and a pocket knife or scissors with pointed blade (for poking the holes).
There’s also designs that don’t require a penny. The one I made years ago did not use any material inside (like the insulation wick shown in this vid).
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Additional items that are useful:
r/bugout • u/SeeThirty3030 • Aug 02 '26
I have a DZO nesting cup and lid. Wondering if either size Grayl bottle will fit, I'f anyone knows?
I know the DZO is supposed to fit standard 32 and 40 oz water bottles.
r/bugout • u/IKIR115 • Jul 08 '26
For reference: The Colony (2009) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1470018/
What do you guys think of the warehouse they used as their BOL?
Yes this is reality TV, and yes its a bit corny, but it was very interesting at the time.
Description of the show:
What would you do in the wake of a global catastrophe? How would you find food? Water? Shelter?
The Colony is a controlled experiment to see exactly what it would take to survive and rebuild under these circumstances. For 10 weeks, a group of 10 volunteers, whose backgrounds and expertise represent a cross-section of modern society, are isolated in an urban environment outside Los Angeles and tasked with creating a livable society.
With no electricity from the grid, no running water and no communication with the outside world, all the volunteers have to work with are their skills and whatever tools and supplies they can scavenge from their surroundings.
Experts from the fields of homeland security, engineering and psychology have helped design the world of The Colony to reflect elements from both real-life disasters and models of what the future could look like after a global viral outbreak.
Over the course of the 10-week experiment, the Colonists must work together to build the necessities of survival, such as a water-filtration system, a battery bank that powered their electricity, a solar cooker, a shower system and a greenhouse and even some niceties (a coffee maker!).
r/bugout • u/_okbrb • Jul 03 '26
Remember the iPod classic from Book of Eli?
Is that still the ideal way to preserve our culture for the post-internet era? Or are we on to tapes now? I’ve definitely been appreciating tapes as a surveillance free medium at least. Plus the Walkman has a radio. My only concern is recharging: an iPod could plug in to a backpacking solar array…
Anyway, what albums are you packing?
r/bugout • u/kpetrie77 • Jul 02 '26
Curious how many of you have given serious thought about where you’re bugging out to and if that’s a long term or short term thing. Poll closes in 7 days. Feel free to discuss in the comments.
r/bugout • u/iwelchi • Jul 02 '26
What are yall packing for sleep? A part of me is screaming suck it up for a few days if you have to bugout but at the same time, deep down, I know good sleep is a very important moral booster. Unfortunately, the better sleeping pads I've tried are bulky or cumbersome. What do yall recommend for decent sleep without taking up a bunch of space? Am i better off just planning to make something out of the environment im in?
Edit: I live in southeast Texas and rarely travel farther north than north Texas, Louisiana or Mississippi so cold weather systems are really unnecessary.
r/bugout • u/ClancyBShanty • Jun 15 '26
Hi all! I recently started a new job that is extremely close to my flat (10-12 minute walk, could probably run it in 5). I know some people keep their bags in their cars, but I rarely drive during my work week.
Does anyone here keep their bags at the office/place of work? As it stands I have a 6L sling style backpack with some EDC materials and a carabiner to hold my water bottle, but it's mostly where I keep some snacks and art supplies/notebooks. My regular BOB/Overnighter is currently stuffed in my closet and probably due for a re-jigging.
I'd love to hear what you all think.
Thanks!
r/bugout • u/ResponsibleFall1634 • May 26 '26
How can this be?
Two solar panels, one smaller at least 50% or more, about 4 times lighter outputs almost the same wattage as the bigger one.
Begs the question, how to choose a good light weight high output solar panel?
The specs of the larger Jackery one dwarf the cheaper Decathlon Forclaz model
Images:
Edit, outside, direct sunlight, even worse for the Jackery, still usb c but both use usb connections
Edit 2: The xt60 connector came and it all now works way better. It was indeed the useless usb c converter, so i am quite disappointed by Jackery. This was not supposed to be a DIY kit where i learn i need even more connectors if i don't use only their system.
r/bugout • u/T3hBau5 • May 26 '26
Long story short, due to a non-violent felony from almost 20 years ago I can't legally own a firearm. Any other recs for protection? I am working on getting it sealed/expunged but it's a fairly lengthy process and several offices aren't returning calls.
r/bugout • u/DontBeMistaken • May 21 '26
So looking to see what else i might need/not need for my urban bugout. This bags purpose is for a couple days hike out of a populated area to a rural safe location:
What should i add/remove?
r/bugout • u/TemporaryHoney8571 • May 05 '26
Building out a proper food rotation for emergency prep is one of those things that sounds simple until you start looking at options and realize how much variance there is in calorie counts, shelf life claims, and actual palatability. mre house keeps coming up alongside mountain house and readywise but there isn't as much community discussion about long-term experience with them specifically. For people who've ordered from them and actually eaten the food, not just stored it, how does the taste hold up and are the calorie figures per meal actually enough to sustain someone doing physical activity? Also curious whether the variety is enough to avoid food fatigue over multiple days of eating from the same supply.