r/askanything • u/Many_Combination_855 • 9h ago
General Question Trump says he could be 'the last republican president', Is that good or bad?
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u/Haunting_Lime2296 9h ago
Wonder why he’s destroyed his party
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u/pete_68 9h ago
Because everything he touches turns to shit. Witness Trump University, Trump Steaks, Trump Magazine, Trump Shuttle, Trump Mortgage, Trump: The Game, GoTrump.com, Trump Taj Mahal, Trump Castle Associates, Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino, The Plaza Hotel, Trump Hotels and Casino Resorts, and of course, Trump Entertainment Resorts.
Surely I've missed a few dozen of his other failed business ventures.
Republicans sure know how to pick a guy who doesn't know how to do jack shit.
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u/Scrops 9h ago
Except human trafficking. A lot of people have testified and provided evidence he was pretty good at that
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u/silliestgoose1234 9h ago
Gestures hands wildly “And they said I was the best, the greatest human trafficker to ever have lived”
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u/littlebopeepsvelcro 9h ago
Playing devil's advocate here, if he sucks at everything else, why wouldn't he suck at that, which begs the question did he actually try, and why don't we have more evidence of his failure?
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u/stephenalloy 9h ago
Perhaps because the business model of human trafficking is human destruction, which he's quite skilled at.
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u/Nub_Shaft 8h ago
There's 3 million pages of evidence yet to be seen that most likely spell it all out.
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u/Sweaty-Feedback-1482 8h ago
You're asking why we don't have evidence of human trafficking from the guy that controls the evidence of human trafficking?
Am I tracking you here correctly?
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u/NoSong2397 9h ago
It's in his nature to destroy and harm everything he touches.
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u/TheModWhoShaggedMe 8h ago
Sort of the ultimate conservative in that aspect, perfectly fit to be their true leader.
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u/MatterFickle3184 8h ago
Republicans destroyed their own party, Trump just helped accelerate the implosion.
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u/lagan_derelict 9h ago
Putin's Russian Oligarchy is probably a cheaper alternative to semi-, quasi- "democracy." Who knew that two viable options meant Citizens United Stout and Citizens United Lite?
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u/white-blade877 8h ago edited 3h ago
Trump is Republican?? I thought Republicans were FOR the constitution and against taxation. Tarrifs are a tax on imports paid by Americans. He had declared born Americans to be stripped of their rights and imprisoned without trial. Imagine you went back 20 years and said Democrats had done that and their leader was anti Nato after a KGB paid trip to Moscow.
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u/xikbdexhi6 7h ago
They are against taxation of the rich. They are pro-tax of commoners though, because their bail-outs need funding.
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u/TheCrystalTinker 8h ago
I mean he has entirely reahsped the Republican party, and the name will be tainted for a generation or two at least.
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u/InvestmentSorry6393 4h ago
I mean I also thought Republicans were not Russian puppets, and were against socialist actions like handing out $5000 dollar checks just to buy elections. Somehow he's convinced all the current Republicans that all those previous Republicans were RINOs. He's also convinced the religious right that somehow he's not an unholy demon sent bring the worst out of mankind.
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u/CaminoBalanced 9h ago
I just want to send a big thank you to the Republicans out there for exposing yourselves and letting us all know who and what you are. We'll all be steering clear of you, and especially your politicians from now on. May you get all the shit you deserve.
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u/Ivanovic-117 9h ago
By now it is clear who they really are, the party of family values and religion are no more than hypocrites full of crap.
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u/Comfortable_East_358 9h ago
Let's fucking hope so. Every time a Republican is in office the country goes to shit
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u/Delanynder11 9h ago
I'm gonna go ahead and leave this here. The man in his own words: https://youtu.be/rRndMiVIB-w?is=Ky8ZXGWnh3tBRmRt
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u/MarionberryOk2874 8h ago
Not just ‘seems’ - it absolutely does. Cycle after cycle for at least the last 40 years - the republicans run us into the ground and the dems pull us out - only for the republicans to run us right back into the ground.
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u/1nGirum1musNocte 9h ago
And the first Republican dictator for life
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u/Sophisticated-Crow 9h ago
So.... another year or so?
He's got at least one cankle in the grave at this point.
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u/CSiGab 9h ago
The Heritage Foundation and Federalist Society, propped up by oligarch money, are running the country. That won’t change once he croaks.
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u/pricetyler59 8h ago
Not sure how much life he has left. He looks to me like his health is in a declining state right now.
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u/Beneficial-Tap-6052 3h ago
Based on his actions it would appear his goal may be to be the last American President.
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u/Mundane-Librarian-77 9h ago
That's the idea, chief. The Republicans have permanently ruined their reputation supporting Trump's corrupt insanity. No sane American will ever trust them in power again.
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u/MyDogIsACoolCat 9h ago
Would be good, but considering this guy tried to overthrow democracy in 2020 and got elected 4 years later, I don’t think Americans learned their lesson at all.
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u/SignificantCrow 9h ago
Bad, but we definitely need a loooong break from the GOP being in power. Hopefully this horrible 2nd term sinks the party for a long time
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u/Evil_phd 9h ago
Tbf we need an entirely new conservative party that actually focuses on conservatism. As it stands Republicans have become a purely regressive party.
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u/MorgessaMonstrum 9h ago
The Democrats are right there! Now what we need is a left wing party.
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u/BanjoFiddleLaser 8h ago
If the GOP was to dissolve and go away forever. There would just be a new party to fill the void. We’ve pretty much had a two-party system for all of our 250 years. Long before the modern Republicans and Democrats
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u/FunnyMTGplayer75 8h ago
Time for the parties to split then. Republicans ate Maga, Conservative party forms to be the more sane branch of the right wing. Democrats stay as the moderate centrist party. Then we can have a progressive party form.
Once a multi party system is in place, REAL politics will hapoen, and all 4 parties would have to work with each other
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u/SSweetSauce 9h ago
Unfortunately it won’t. I personally only know 2 republicans out of at least 20 who are upset with the Republican Party. The rest of them are 100% going to vote republican again, probably for the rest of their lives. Don’t count your chickens before they hatch.
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u/SignificantCrow 9h ago
Lifelong republicans won’t change but it’s the folks in the middle that mainly determine election outcomes
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u/5footfilly 7h ago
The last Republican president was George W Bush.
Trump is the first MAGA president. If he’s the last it would be a very, very good thing indeed.
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u/Lumpy-Scratch-8363 9h ago
Hopefully. Not sure why we ever needed a fascist party with a cult leader. I don't remember any sane person asking for that.
The Democrats could easily replace the traditional - pre MAGA - Republican Party. Bill Clinton did NAFTA after all. And Obamacare is really RomneyCare, a plan from a Republican governor. Should fit like a glove if you want traditional conservative values preserved.
To counter the Democrats, it would be really cool to have an actual progressive party that might be considered "center" in Europe. Or even slightly left of center.
Please don't say "communist". If we don't like Trump's run as supreme leader what makes you think we'd like communist-style authoritarian bullshit like Putin? Same story, different title. We need the new progressives to be like the old ones: FDR, Truman and even Eisenhower. Men who looked after the little guy and not just the ultra rich.
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u/No-Turnover6758 9h ago
Because about 31% of Americans are NOT SANE. They are driven by hatred and conspiracy theories. I cannot believe that a Q Anon was the WC Press Secretary. Please get us out of this fucking time line somebody.
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u/petulant-turnip 8h ago
Well, the insane people had their go at government and this is what they did. And even the insane people are starting to go quiet. They need to STFU and if they can’t admit they fucked everything up, just crawl back to whatever delusional hell hole they were in. Most importantly, this should always be held up as the time America was at its worst, under Trump and MAGA, when these idiots finally got their hands on power, they fucked it up, they had two chances at it. Enough!
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u/Size---Queen 8h ago
I have said this before as well Dems move to what Republicans are and we get a real progressive party for the left.
The Overton window has shifted so far right we need to drag it back to the left for balance.
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u/cheesefist_ 8h ago
Communism is misrepresented. It’s a style of economic policies, what people call Communism is authoritarianism.
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u/Lumpy-Scratch-8363 8h ago
In practice, they were just strong men doing what strong men do. Same as fascists. Same as MAGA.
China is the largest communist country in the world. It is by far the most capitalist place I have ever visited - everyone trying to make a buck (yuan). Capitalism out of control if I am being frank. Another strong oligarchy at the top, state surveillance and if you piss off your betters, you die.
So you'll just say they are no longer communist right? Ok. So who is or was? No one?
I am a Democratic socialist and can find real, functioning countries out there that represent my ideal like most of Scandinavia. They are the same kind of capitalist that I am, the kind that could have shared a beer with President Eisenhower and he wouldn't think once about trying to contain them; he would try to find ways to copy them. Capitalism must be regulated; there must be a social network for the weak, the sick and the old; we must promote and spread knowledge and support truth; and make money responsibly. I'd be pretty happy just to go back to before Reagan sold out the middle class but ideally we'd study the Scandinavians instead and adapt what makes sense for us.
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u/cheesefist_ 8h ago
Trickle down economics is the biggest grift since Trump said he would release the Epstien files
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u/Lumpy-Scratch-8363 8h ago
It was just a way of stealing from the middle class and transferring that wealth to the ultra rich. If that's your goal, then it's been very successful.
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u/Csmitty2112 8h ago
Communism was also inspired by a lot of the behaviors you can see in small tight knit rural communities. The problem is that you cant really base a large scale system off of those without a totalitarian government which is ripe for corruption. And that is the main reason every communist country has failed. It just isn't a practical system on a large scale.
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u/Lumpy-Scratch-8363 8h ago
Correct, Communism, as envisioned by Marx is a fantasy. The fact it keeps evolving into a horror show tells you all you need to know about it. A system of economics that doesn't work well with actual humans is not a good system.
But democratic socialism as practiced by the Scandinavians is a model for the world. It is capitalism with conscience, with a soul.
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u/CantaloupeFluffy165 9h ago
Years from now Republicans will say Trump ruined the presidency for them.
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u/Sebastian_113 8h ago
☝️this
There will always be another cohort of opportunistic grifters ready to construct whatever framework they need in order to avoid accountability and secure a mandate. The far right part of what was the Republican has a tendency to attract the worst kind of people. Airways has.
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u/IAHoosier 9h ago
Well, he’s potentially not wrong. Either he’ll be first dictator or people will have enough of the fascism crushing the American people.
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u/hellranger788 8h ago
If more Republicans showed some spine instead of drinking the Kool-Aid, maybe they wouldn’t be risking such extinction. But people tend to be stupid so I imagine they’ll rebound.
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u/SuccessfulSpring3354 9h ago
I mean, 46 years since the wealthy took over the tax code and governance (under Reagan), leaving 40+ trillion deficit which was transferred to a very few wealthiest and the middle class has nothing to show for it....technically 'Dubya' should have been the last GOP President. The fact America's middle class didn't understand that is absurdly stupid. And here we are.
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u/freisbill 9h ago
since every republican administration we go further in debt and the economy craters (EVERY TIME-look it up) would say that is a good thing. oh and most of them start a war.
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u/LabOwn9800 9h ago
Depends on what comes after republicans.
Millions of mouth breathers aren’t going to stop being racists idiots so they could create a new even worse party.
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u/petewondrstone 9h ago
Well, he destroyed the Republican Party, but I think they’ll still be another one
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u/Turbulent_Board4567 9h ago
Lol. There are 30% people who still support him.
There are more incredibly stupid and ignorant people that exceeds anyone's common sense or imagination.
I am not even sure if Democrats will get more seats this November or the next term.
I am definitely sure Republicans will be back in 5-6 years in one way or the other.
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u/Overall-Ask-8305 9h ago
One of two things: either a democrats wins in 2028, OR he completes P2025 and ends our democracy, effectively making himself a dictator (like those he idolizes).
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u/Count2Zero 9h ago
Don't make promises you can't keep, Donny boy.
I mean, I wouldn't mind if the whole GOP imploded and was replaced by a new conservative party (back to the fiscal conservative party of small government and lower taxes, not another pedo-religious cult), but that isn't going to happen over night.
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u/Evil_phd 9h ago
That would be nice, but unfortunately every other person I know falls for it every time when Republicans say that Dems are doing a bad job of cleaning up the mess that Republicans made.
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u/Ambitious-Ant5739 9h ago
He might be the last Republican president, but he will not be the last ultra conservative president. Nor the last president of any party who isn't bought and paid for by corporations and oligarchs unless we get rid of lobbying and take money out of politics.
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u/Haytaytay 9h ago
He will fracture the party on his way out.
There is no "heir" to the MAGA movement, and his family controls all of the GOP funding. Once his term ends, the rest of the Republican party will want to form a new vision for the future but the Trump family will be wholly devoted to sabotaging it. All of the hatred and vitriol that they have been directing towards liberals will instead go towards attacking conservatives who don't fall in line.
He will be like an anchor tied around their legs, dragging them down and refusing to let go.
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u/Separate_Farm7131 4h ago
He does not represent the platforms and ideas the republican party has had. He's not fiscally conservative. He's done a hell of a lot of damage to that party and they will spend decades trying to fix it.
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u/SubjectCode1940 9h ago
That’s horrible. He’s basically admitting he’s fucking up the country so bad that nobody will republican. Doesn’t make any sense. Worst president in the history of the United States
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u/philly-buck 9h ago
He isn’t Republican. He is a big spending idiot that used to be a Democrat and now a MEGA cult con man cunt.
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u/Puzzled-Throat4238 9h ago
The last republican president that was for the people was Dwight Eisenhower.
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u/tegresaomos 9h ago
What are you even voting for if you vote for them? Just racism, sexism, and pdfing?
They don’t conserve anything but their ability to do ever greater evil to everyone else.
The last 5 Republicans left office with economies on the rocks or completely shattered.
Voting for them is voting to destroy yourself.
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u/Mulliganasty 9h ago
Would be awesome if it were true. Unfortunately, it takes Americans at most eight years to get over the last incompetent Republican president before electing another one.
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u/Maximum-Worry-777 8h ago
The octogenarian will soon be gone but it will take decades for this country -if indeed we it ever does- to climb out of the hole he is digging. We have lost all credibility with our neighbors and allies, destroyed all of our trading partnerships and weakened our military. He will go down in history as the most corrupt and incompetent president ever. As an ex-Republican I sincerely hope he is the last Republican president. Lincoln’s party is dead and gone and what remains is a pathetic collection of idiots clinging to an idea of an America that never existed. They don’t have the faintest idea of what made America great. Unfortunately the Democrats are equally clueless.
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u/Alert_Front_9948 3h ago
Except he is't really a Republican. The whole party isn't really Republican at the moment. They've been hijacked.
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u/Cardboard-Condo266 3h ago
I certainly hope so. The Republican party of Trump is no better than any other criminal enterprise. It has been moving this way since Nixon. It needs to be crushed. We need several different, viable, political parties in this country if we want anything other than the fascist oligarchy run mess that we have now.
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u/Upstairs-Lifeguard23 1h ago
That's true. The Republican Party doesn't exist anymore. The party of the fiscal discipline and the family values morphed into a band of pedophilic-libertarian-plutocratic-cleptocrats. They might keep the same name and maybe even win more elections in the future, but, by all means, they are not the Republican Party. Trump killed it.
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u/GodlessCog2 4h ago
He means “last president” because he has no intention of giving up his spot. Not with everything that’s been put into place between his two terms.
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u/BearcatCowboy 3h ago
Good thing his fat fucking body is gonna cave before 2028s Election Day.
Bonus if he’s actually put down by somebody instead and he has to lay there suffering for a while.
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u/JanxDolaris 9h ago
I doubt it. Its just fearmongering to rile up his base. "You must vote for me or its the end!!!!!!"
Democrats will not be able to fix all his broken in four years. Next republican will blame all of trump's problems on the dems in power.
Trump literally pulled this same trick with Biden.
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u/DeliciousWrangler166 9h ago
It is FUD aka Fear, Uncertainty, Disparage. The mark of someone realizing the fecal matter is going to hit the air motion device.
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u/RunningOutOfNames56 9h ago
How stupid; they control every branch of government. I think he’s trying to scare the republicans into voting maga, even the ones that are having second thoughts
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u/Chemistry11 9h ago
And Biden could be the last Dem president. The future hasn’t been written yet.
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u/PoolExtension5517 9h ago
He has definitely destroyed any shred of credibility the GOP may have ever had in the past, and the damage he has done to the country will take decades to repair. I was a reliable Republican voter until 2016, but there was no way I was going to cast a vote for him then, and it will be a cold day in Hell before I trust another Republican candidate enough to vote for them.
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u/Alextollah 9h ago
He's just disappointed, he was hoping to be the last president, period.
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u/DonPablo951 9h ago
It's not just about Trump. All these politicians which turned their head away... not a good look for the party imho
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u/Agile-Watercress122 9h ago
he means last president in general. AKA hes gonna be a dictator.
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u/Significant_Other666 4h ago
It started with George Washington refusing the Crown and ends with Trump demanding one
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u/Sufficient_Beach_445 9h ago
And you voted for this. In the words of Bob Dylan: "Bury the rag deep in your face. Now is the time for your tears".
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u/Past-Establishment93 9h ago
Morons will have a couple bad years and blame the dems and we will be back here in 4 yrs.
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u/Initial_Row_6400 9h ago
My ballots in the past have been pretty half and half. Some things I like, some things I don’t. I voted on both sides.
My entire ballot is D this year
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u/Sunday_Schoolz 9h ago
Apart from some dictatorship insinuation, let’s just shake our heads in disbelief that the first Republican president was Abraham Lincoln 162 years ago, and the last one would be Trump.
How fucking sad.
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u/ShinePretend3772 🤔 9h ago
He fully intends to remain in office ling after his term is up. He already tried it once. Now they have experience. I’m not overreacting
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u/GoldnShiesty 9h ago
Let’s be honest guys when it came down to him and Kamala we traded our dicks for pussies.
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u/Designer_Ear_1382 9h ago
Trump is a narcissist and a nihilist.
If he can't have it, no-one can. He will pull the GOP down with him, so Nobody can come along and 'succeed' him.
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u/OutrageousIdea5214 9h ago
Translation- “I made the country so mad with all the dumb shit I did, my party will never be reelected”.
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u/GeorgzBi 9h ago
Oh woe is me…….. and he’s likely right. The level of disrespect and dishonesty should scare anyone away
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u/Plastic-Serve5205 9h ago
Hope so. Republicans have always harmed, never helped, fueled by pretty lies.
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u/HaxanWriter 9h ago
It would be the best thing for this shithole country that ever happened.
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u/Euphoric_Star_5338 9h ago
Oh No! Don't threaten us with peace, prosperity, affordable health care and bodily autonomy!
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u/Peter_Parker66 9h ago
Yeah cause when he tries to overthrow our democracy, and establish himself as supreme leader, there won't be a two party system anymore. Just an autocracy
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u/Maximum_Style6069 9h ago
Yes, because as a republican president, you have ran the country into the ground completely
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u/TimeRevolutionary735 9h ago
No worry. History shows us after 8 years of a Democrat thats never true.
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u/Mysterious-Eye8710 9h ago
Why?..because he's ruined everything! Under the republican way...good! In return, giving the Republicans a bad reputation!
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u/violetcassie 9h ago
The Republican party no longer exists in a recognizable form, it's just something malignant wearing its skin now.
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u/Dseltzer1313 9h ago
I can’t see the party rebounding. I think MAGA
(30%) will become the new party leaving the other 70% to the democrats
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u/Efficient_Art4350 9h ago
The last Republican President but the first United States Emperor. /s
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u/Insis18 9h ago
Steel sharpens steel, a single party system is poison. But we need 4-8 viable parties. The 2 party system is poison too.
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u/SeitanEnjoyer 9h ago
Probably the last Republican anything ever elected, no one is trusting the party every again.
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u/Solid-Ad-2399 9h ago
Last MAGA President. Maybe the GOP will recover eventually. If we’re going to stick with a two party system, let’s hope we have two reasonable parties.
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u/Careless-Emergency85 9h ago
Or two parties that would rather discuss their differences and find a solution than point fingers and yell at each other. Crazy we can’t even have that
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u/PracticableSolution 9h ago
The last republican president was Eisenhower. Every “Republican” president we’ve had since Eisenhower has been the worst president we’ve had since Herbert Hoover, who was also a Republican. Might give a bye for Bush Sr, but prefer not to.
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u/Silent-Obligation-49 9h ago
Who in their right mind would ever vote Republican again after this narcissistic criminal dictator has destroyed the US.
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u/Immediate-Season4544 9h ago
He won't be because Vance will replace him when he dies within the next 6 months
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u/Great_Revolution_276 9h ago
If this is the shit republicans are going to serve up, then yes. The right move to be honest by the voting public if they were not a bunch of morons. Uh, wait…
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u/Chance-Wall754 9h ago
I voted republican as often as democratic until 2016; I have voted solely D since then and will continue to until the Republican Party begins to disavow the train wreck Trump decade - which is to say, never. As a party I think they are over.
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u/Mobile-Tangelo-4515 9h ago
If the dems can get in there and fix the shit that is broke, I’m all for it.
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u/Smokin_belladonna 9h ago
what he means is that he will also be the first king of america because he's got dementia.
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u/Upper-Bear-5489 8h ago
Republicans no longer exist. The question is how long MAGA will be the majority in the right.
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u/Maxwells_Law 8h ago
He will be responsible for there being no other Republican presidents
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u/-TheInternetIsEvil- 8h ago
That's fucking fantastic. He is already doing everything he can to make the Republicans lose for a generation
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u/Civil-Nothing-3186 8h ago
Bad. As much as I don’t like the republicans right now, a one party system would not be good. So unless another party took its place it would not be a good thing.
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u/Not_Sure__Camacho 9h ago
I want him to be the first president tried for treason and given a traitor's sentencing.