r/NFA • • 16h ago

Legal Question ⚖️ Am I the only one…

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I will open this post with an admission. I normally find myself viewing the glass half empty which is actually something that, when I realize, I try to remedy/reverse. So in asking this question, I’m leaning on some of you to show me that beautiful half full glass I sometimes overlook.

A federal judge in Texas held that provisions could no longer be justified under Congress’s taxing power for the $0-tax items. The judge also rejected the government’s alternative interstate-commerce justification. In plain English, the reasoning was: you cannot keep enforcing this tax-administration system when its underlying tax raises no money. That is this court’s ruling, rather than a universal rule that every zero-dollar tax invalidates related regulations.

So couldn’t this work both ways? If Congress restored a tax—even a small amount—the government would have a stronger argument that registration again serves a revenue-collecting purpose. That could undermine the basis of the current ruling. The ATF specifically identifies a new tax as something that could cause enforcement to resume. And in this same vein, the original tax was originally intended to be cost prohibitive to the average citizen. Because this tax was never adjusted for inflation, it had become relatively manageable for most of us on a few purchases throughout the year. What is the likelihood that an oppressive future administration not only reinstating that tax but to a cost prohibitive number for us regular folk?

For someone who bought a suppressor using only a 4473, or created an SBR, the concern is continued possession of an unregistered item after enforcement resumes. ATF says there is no automatic grandfather protection and generally no ordinary way to register an already-unregistered NFA item afterward. An amnesty or new legislation could provide a registration window, but neither is guaranteed.

I’ve heard the common use argument but how likely is this to be successful? We haven’t even been able to get a ruling on the common use of AR’s from the Supreme Court! And for those that say just don’t register and non-compliance is the only way, that’s not an option for me for a variety of reasons including being the breadwinner in a home with two young children.

I just reviewed this rant and I don’t mean to come off ungrateful for these changes or opportunity. I’m just nervous about skipping this whole $0 tax and then registration becomes necessary again at an astronomically higher tax. I’m also hesitant bc this is my first Reddit post and I’ve seen people get shredded for speaking about things the majority sees as “disagreeable”. Again, sorry for the rant but I’m very interested to hear everyone’s thoughts on this issue and hopefully hear some more positivity from the group.


r/NFA • • 17h ago

Drilling Tips?

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for those of you manufacturers &/or home builders, how would you go about drilling out these baffles at home & having them be concentric? is a drill press the only way or is there a special trick im too naive to know about to mark them?


r/NFA • • 16h ago

Product Question 🧰 Has anyone used the SilencerCo Octane 45 2.0 on a 10mm host?

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I am simply curious how you like it. I know there are many other cans available, but I would like to know about this one. The FN 510 Tactical and Stribog 10MM will serve as the primary hosts.


r/NFA • • 15h ago

Mount Questions 🔩 Help.

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This is my SilencerCo Warlock II suppressor. It has lived on this Ruger SR22 for the last 4 years using the threaded barrel adapter shown in the screenshot. It has never been cleaned. Ever. And it has at least 3,000 rounds of the cheapest, dirtiest .22lr ammo I could find through it. I am trying to swap it to a new host but the threaded barrel adapter is carbon locked to it TIGHT. I can't get it off even using a wrench. Any ideas?


r/NFA • • 15h ago

Oh look, another FRT post. So original. MP5SD

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If you are looking for an incredible suppressed, short-barreled rifle experience, the MP5SD may be peak.

A true mp5sd has a short, ported barrel with 30 holes at the base of said barrel. A long, SD suppressor covers the entirety of the barrel under the handguard shroud and extends several inches past the bore.

The large expansion chamber captures gas that escapes through the ported barrel holes. By bleeding off gas and thus pressure, this setup prevents 115 and 124gr 9mm ammo from achieving supersonic velocities.

So off-the-shelf ammo is subsonic. And even better, the power factor is greatly reduced. Even compared to 9mm subs.

The reduced power factor results in an unbelievably soft, flat, stable shooting experience. That also might be among the quietest of suppressed center-fire small arms.

I love shooting my conventional mp5&k’s - the mp5sd is in a league all its own for stupendous incredibleness!!!

I had HiTech Arms convert an AP5SD. Turn around time was 10.5 days from my home to my home. B&T barrel. RCM SD cocking tube support.

I’m currently using a CAT Mob with BRT SD adapter - ridiculously quiet AND the gas goes down-bore out the muzzle.

I realize these guns are almost 60 years old. But I can’t think of a superior PCC experience!

Enjoy!


r/NFA • • 10h ago

Am I doing this right?

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First NFA approval on June 6 of this year, this is current state of cans. Also 5 sbr and 1 sbs


r/NFA • • 20h ago

Discussion To Pistol Grip Stock Or Traditional Stock SBS

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I’ve decided to put my big boy pants on and get me a shotgun. This will be my first time getting one and shooting one. I’ve decided I wanted to get it SBS. The base shotgun would be a Mossberg 590 shockwave and I was wondering should I go traditional stock or pistol grip stock?? Can you list the pros and cons of each for a beginner?? Also what stocks and grip adapters do you recommend?? I’ve seen some talk of incompatibility and things in need for modification.


r/NFA • • 16h ago

Putting suppressor in a trust after transferring it via 4473

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Just bought my first can and it arrives in a couple days. I plan on 4473ing it to avoid having to go through the fingerprinting process (I’m lazy. Gov already has my prints anyways). Once I receive it, what does the process look like for putting it in a trust? I’m on the border of my state and the neighboring state requires NFA registration. I’d like to eventually get it registered so I can travel across state lines to matches without having to worry about legal issues.


r/NFA • • 18h ago

DA Nomad LTI XC on AR-10, any thoughts?

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Thinking about getting the nomad LTI XC for my ar-10 .308 with a 16” barrel, it’s not a gun I’m gonna mag dump out of and I’m really looking for the quietest option, I mainly use this gun for longer range shooting I know it’ll be pretty gassy but I have an adjustable gas block. Any thoughts?


r/NFA • • 16h ago

Hey I’m back after cleaning the muzzle loaders

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339 Upvotes

Turns out, I ordered the right part, as intended contrary to the haters.

As it also turns out, I put a .280/290 bore DPB on a 30 caliber, thinking years ago when I ordered it I ordered it for a .30, as predicted by the haters.

Thank you to the less rude people for reminding me there is a 6.5 version of the 5/8-24.

Oddly enough, it worked with Core-lokt 30-30’s

Feel free to down vote and mock accordingly, or whatever gets your reddit dwelling rocks off.

Rearden makes a bullet proof MD and Otter Creek makes a bullet proof can.


r/NFA • • 20h ago

All of my suppressors weighed

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SureFire RC2: 17 oz
OCL OCM6: 16.4 oz
OCL Polonium: 14.4 oz
Ridgeback Roadie 6J: 14 oz
Ridgeback Rhino S (Ti): 10.4 oz
SAW Tisha (Ti): 9.5 oz

The suppressors were weighed before the Comstock Armory RPA Hub adapter was installed.

Best for weight: OCM6
Best for performance: Roadie 6J
Best for low back pressure: Tisha
Best for minimal flash: RC2
Best for budget: OCL Polonium


r/NFA • • 10h ago

NFA Photo Six stamp sunday

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one of these is not like the other


r/NFA • • 20h ago

User Review Polite Society Temperance 22

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Polite Society is a new company and there isn't too much out there on these yet, but at $250 for a printed Ti .22 can I figured "why not". I got my Temperance in a few days ago and have compared it side by side on two different pistols with my B&T Tiger and OG Scorpius.

To my ears it slots in between the Tiger and the Scorpius sound wise, has a deeper tone than either, and unlike the Scorpius can be used on .223 bolt gun. At 4" long and 3.2oz, that's really impressive to me, add in that it's $250 and it's a hell of a deal. The only potential downside I've seen is that it's obviously a little thick at 1.25", a bit larger than the Tigers 1.12" and obviously larger than the standard ~1" of rimfire cans.

Pics attached for comparison with the OG Scorpius, SAW Katan and B&T Tiger. The SAW is the smallest, but was already louder than the other two so I didn't use it in the sound comparison.

Figured this was fitting for r/NFA since my dealer told me this was his last F4 transfer, and he had since gotten guidance on what to do with cans on his books transferred on 4473s from the state.


r/NFA • • 20h ago

Just scouting

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r/NFA • • 2h ago

13” MINI14 SBR AND HUX FLOW TI

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r/NFA • • 1h ago

Rearden atlas XL question

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Hi. Can someone measure the length and max width of hex portion of it ?

Can't find any info on the web and need to verify if it fits inside my hanguard and how deep will it sit.


r/NFA • • 11h ago

First Suppressor Questions

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After putting together my first ar15 earlier this year I’m looking at getting my first suppressor. Host is a 14.5 DD RIS III upper, super 42 & H2, microbest DLC+ BCG, currently ejecting at 4 o’clock consistently. I’m looking for a 5.56 can under $700 but with having to buy a mounting systems also the lower cost the better.

If I were to get a traditional suppressor such as: LPM Duty, Polo K, Exigent LE556. How much tuning should I expect to do? Would a Ez-tune gas tube or H3 cover it? Mainly looking into these for the lower cost but if I’m gonna have to pump money into tuning it defeats that.

Do traditional suppressors with changeable end caps like Stacy’s Mom and Canik Void actually help with back pressure? I’ve seen lots of mixed reviews on this.

All the mentioned cans come with direct thread mount which I’d run until I can upgrade to plan B.

The highest priced can I’ve considered is the Rhino x. Which does not come with a direct thread mount, and per there website has a solid 10 week lead time.

I feel like I’ve read most the posts from the last year or two on the sub for suppressors in this price range and might just have analysis paralysis with the amount of suppressors on the market. If anyone could help give me some guidance on places to do more research or recommendations for cans that’d be great. Thanks


r/NFA • • 20h ago

Discussion Ultrasonic cleaners

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What ultrasonic cleaners are y'all using to clean your sealed cans? I'm leaning towards an iSonic P4831, but I'm open to suggestions.


r/NFA • • 16h ago

Product Question 🧰 Ruger Mk4 SSH issues resolved yet?

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I'm considering buying one of these as a dedicated host and I'd love a short barrel to keep the thing compact. Yet, it seems most people with the SSH have had horrible accuracy when combined with a suppressor. Does anyone know if the issues have been resolved for new units yet? Has anyone had theirs successfully repaired by Ruger? I like the slick upper of the SSH without irons and I'd rather not go through the FFL process twice to buy an aftermarket upper. But if that's the most optimal move, then so be it. But if the SSH is good to go now, then I'd rather do that.