r/FATTravel • • Aug 18 '26

Virtuoso Week - AMA (and my team)

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TLDR: Virtuoso Week = ~4800 hotel people in Vegas, six days of minimal sleep, and where a whole year of favors quietly gets made.

I think my team is finally recovered, but my Oura ring is still side-eyeing me from the ongoing 4-hour-sleep nights. For everyone who texted last week and got some version of "still at the conference, can't really hop on a call right now," this is what my team and I were buried in, and I figured I owed you guys the full picture. So, AMA.

What Virtuoso Week even is:
Once a year, most of the luxury hotel world (leadership, ownership, sales teams) lands in one place for a week. This year 4800 officially registered, and easily a few hundred more (honestly if not at least 1000 more) were floating around without a badge. It's not like conferences in other industries where you duck into a hallway for a 20 min call. It's back to back from morning into the very late night, and if you're not in the room, you're NOT in the room. That's why we went quiet last week. Not ignoring you, just physically three parties deep at midnight, no joke.

Why we do it with a team, not solo:
Most companies send one person. Maybe two, if they'll spring for it. We brought 14 on the relationship and events side, and 7 of those ran back to back 1-1s, each doing around 100 of the matched "speed dating" appointments (yes, real speed dating, 100 apiece, mostly to get my team in front of as many hotel people as humanly possible). That's 700 meetings between them. The math is simple. More of us in more rooms = more real connections = more favors we can call in when one of you needs a room fixed at 11pm on a Saturday in Tokyo. But how do you build a relationship in 10 minutes? You don't. That's what the whole afternoon and evening are for, tracking down whoever you clicked with earlier and getting real face time. Super valuable for those on my team who are newer to this world.

We kicked it off by renting out a trampoline park:
Saturday we bought out a trampoline park and invited our top hotel partners for a straight up thank you party. Think being 10 years old again, unlimited pizza and ice cream, laser tag, DIY swag, trampolines, except with grown up bodies, so we brought in on-site massages too (necessary). These are the people who say yes for you all year. Once a year we get to just have fun with them, zero agenda, and say TY. We're teasing adding a few clients into it next year, mostly as an excuse to invite even more hoteliers. Stay tuned.

The part nobody sees, the long meetings:
While my team ran the 1-1s, I sat in 1-2 hour meetings with senior management and ownership. Some of what we got into: family-owned vs traditional management models and how that shapes growth, how the best properties pull real emotion out of a trip, kids and how much they drive the whole trip decision now, Middle East money and its influence, GDPR and where guest data is heading, branding across different brands, MAPS and where FDA approval takes wellness travel next, and AMEX FHR and how the blanket 4pm late checkout quietly wrecks a hotel's operations and what they are doing about it. Also a real conversation about community, including this one, and what live events hotels could throw to enhance community.

On the "isn't being that close to the brands a conflict" thing:
Fair question, and I see versions of it in threads online. Doesn't being friendly with the hotels just mean you push whoever wines and dines you? Here's my straight answer. The friendships are the thing that lets me fight HARDER for you, not less. When I text a GM I've known for 13 years and tell them a client's room isn't right, that text gets answered and handled because of the relationship, not in spite of it. You can't fake that, and you def can't network your way into it in a year or two. The stuff that moves the needle for a client gets earned over a decade of showing up. It's a people business. Who you know, your reputation in it, and who you keep company with is the whole game, and that shows up later this year in the rooms my team and I get invited into.

A few takeaways worth passing along:

  • One&Only Moonlight Basin (Big Sky) is shifting from seasonal J1 staff to more full time, year round roles with housing and full benefits, specifically to fix service consistency. If you know anyone who wants a hotel job (F&B, front of house, whatever) and would live in Big Sky, send them that way. Those full time + benefits resort jobs are hard to find.
  • Airelles Venice: over nightcaps, we decided together that monogramming the slippers just made sense, and kids pajamas are landing by October. So whoever's headed there, you're welcome. PS Etienne (GM) just won Hotelier of the Year. Say congrats if you see him.
  • Rosewood Guanahani: the ink is drying on the deal (finally). Reno news should be coming. Stay tuned.
  • MagicianSean is still my favorite magician, and I know he's picked up a few bookings off Reddit, so I promise he's worth it, even though r/magictricksrevealed ruined half of it for me. Ha.

Market read for anyone planning next year:
YoY growth is strong and owners are not letting go of rates, so pricing pressure isn't easing. Booking windows are stretching too, people are locking the exact property, suite and season way ahead, because the number of new UHNW households keeps climbing. Overall travel is softer this year, but the UHNW segment is not seeing that softness at all. Spring scared everyone, and by late summer it was back to record rates. So if you've got a big 2027 (or even 28) trip in mind, earlier is better than you think.

That's the download. AMA about Virtuoso Week, how the travel model works, what's worth booking next year, or anything in the travel realm. My team will be on here too, and they might answer faster than me, they're 700 appointments deep between them. lmk.


r/FATTravel • • Nov 10 '25

sarahwlee x Matthew Upchurch, CEO of Virtuoso - AMA

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Hey fatties - here at the new(ish) Waldorf Astoria in Costa Rica for the next few days at the first ever Virtuoso Pinnacle (top producers) event. This is a reason I skipped the Marriott celebrations. This event is an interesting concept where there’s only 40 of us - which includes key members of the Virtuoso team - so it’s very intimate, no PowerPoints, no direct selling, lots of conversations amongst industry leaders.

Obviously, you’ll get my unfiltered take as well as my thoughts and review of the Waldorf but wanted to share with you guys this super rare opportunity to have so much access to Matthew Upchurch. Normally he’s in and out of events but already today, we’ve had a group 3 hour round table, a 1-1 lunch, and then a group horseback riding experience. He’s been a great mentor (esp for all the Reddit drama) and wanted to offer his time to answer any Qs this community has.

Leaving this up to collect questions but will set a dedicated time around 7pm, Guanacaste time tomorrow (Monday, November 10) to answer questions but we might pop in before that for a few here and there.


r/FATTravel • • 4h ago

3 months based in Singapore with a 2yo: Long-stay options & FAT side trips

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Hi everyone,

My husband and I are planning a 3-month stint in Asia with our 2-year-old daughter. Since we’re flying all the way from Latin America, the timezone shift is going to be brutal. To keep things seamless and avoid constantly packing/unpacking with a toddler, we’ve decided to make Singapore our home base for the entire trip and just do a few 4-7 day hops around the region.
Would love the sub's input on two fronts:

1. The SIN Base (3 Months)
We are looking for a 2-to-3 bedroom luxury serviced apartment or hotel residence. We need proper space for the toddler to run around and top-tier service. Right now, we are looking at The Club Residences at Capella (love Sentosa for the space/greenery) and the Four Seasons Apartments, but I’m wondering if we are missing any other ultra-luxe long-stay options in the city?

2. FAT Side Trips (4-7 days)
We want to use Changi as a hub for short, high-end trips. Our baseline is usually Aman/FS/Rosewood level. For these side trips, we prioritize easy direct flights, VIP fast-track airport arrivals, and great private villas. Most importantly, we need places with rock-solid nanny/babysitting services so we can actually enjoy a quiet dinner.

Right now, we are considering:

Thailand: Amanpuri or maybe Rosewood Phuket.

Indonesia: FS Jimbaran Bay or maybe Amandari. (Is Nihi Sumba too much of a logistical headache with a 2yo?)

Maldives: Soneva Fushi/Jani or Cheval Blanc Randheli since it's an easy flight from SIN.

Where else would you take a 2yo out of SIN right now? Any recent experiences with the kids' programs or nannies at these properties would be hugely appreciated.

Thanks!

As a bonus after the 3 month period we’re heading for 1 month in Japan (not planned yet) and head back home after. Any bonus recommendations will be appreciated.


r/FATTravel • • 8h ago

Help choosing Euro Ski trip options: Val d'Isère, Megève, Andermatt, Courchevel, Gstaad, St. Moritz

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My husband and I are (somewhat late to the game) planning a European ski trip for this coming Feb or early March '27. Our first choice would be Airelles Courchevel but timing and availability aren't working for us.

For context, I am an advanced skier and do a good amount of both on-piste skiing and backcountry touring, when safe/available. My husband is somewhere between beginner and intermediate. While the quality of skiing itself is important, we also enjoy the vibes: good restaurants and bars, a cute town with things to do, etc. We have no problem with a "scene" like Courchevel, I think we'd enjoy it; but we're also ok with something quieter. We have been to Zermatt (Omnia) and the Dolomites (Aman Rosa Alpina), and want to try somewhere new to us.

When it comes to the hotel itself: good service, good-to-very good F&B, and high quality, well kept hard product are most important to us. Max budget will be in the €4-5k/night range.

I haven't been able to find a recent and/or reliable review on this sub re: Les Airelles Val d'Isère, which we are currently leaning towards. Google average rating is surprisingly low (before you come for me! lol I am not new to luxury travel and Google definitely isn't my North Star; however when it comes to well-established hotels, I've found Google's amalgamate ratings are usually not far off my own opinion). It looks lovely and tbh it's Airelles so I'd hope it's not that bad?, and Val d'Isère as a ski destination sounds excellent.

Can anyone attest or share recent-ish experiences at any of these? Airelles Val d'Isère, FS Megève, Chedi Andermatt, L'Apogee Courchevel, Alpina Gstaad. Extra points for true ski-in/ski-out (but not required). TYIA!


r/FATTravel • • 20h ago

1 month in Australia + New Zealand in Jan/Feb

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Planning a 1 month long trip for my wife and I to Australia and New Zealand in January/February.

A bit overwhelmed and finding it difficult to suss out what we would like from all the variable things you read on the internet. Looking for recommendations on itinerary mainly. Seems it’s not the time of year to do Whitsundays or Great Barrier Reef, so thinking more like Sydney, Blue Mountains, Tasmania, Byron Bay, Mt Cook, Milford Sound, Lake Wanaka, Abel Tasman, Queenstown. What are we missing though? Want to get to as many of the “heavy hitters” as possible that are appropriate this time of year at least. Or anything I listed that we should skip?

In general, we have high end taste, prefer nature/outdoors versus just wandering around cities, and seeing unique places versus just lounging around (though we like to build in some relax days here and there to keep pace sustainable). I know experiences can vary and there’s a lot of controversial opinions on this sub, but some destination and hotels we have been and liked enough or loved were Il San Pietro in Positano, Forestis Dolomites, Sardinia (hotels were fine but nothing crazy to write home about), Finland (same), Milos (same), Patagonia (Awasi), Amalfi (Miramalfi), Anguilla (Cap Jaluca).


r/FATTravel • • 2d ago

Four Seasons Mallorca at Formentor: worth the drive

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I recently spent four nights at Four Seasons Resort Mallorca at Formentor as part of a longer trip through Europe and Morocco. It sits inside a national park, and it was one of the highlights of the whole trip.

Who went
Myself and seven other top Four Seasons advisors. I’m a travel advisor, and most of this stay was hosted. I paid full price for one night so I could arrive early and enjoy the resort before everyone else got there.

When we went
September 27 to October 1 of this year

Overall impressions
This hotel has a real history. It first opened in 1929 as Hotel Formentor, the vision of an Argentinian art patron named Adan Diehl. Over the years it hosted guests like Winston Churchill, Grace Kelly and Audrey Hepburn, and it’s now been reborn as a Four Seasons. You can feel that history when you’re there, but it also feels completely new and fresh.

The design and art are a big part of what makes it special. The Paris studio Gilles & Boissier did the interiors, and they let the landscape lead. The style is calm and minimal, with Mallorcan stone, brushed wood, island ikat textiles and lighting from local workshops. The lobby keeps the horizon open, and the vertical lines show off the pine trees outside. The art is all by Mallorcan artists and makers. There’s a ceramic pine tree by Andreu Maimó and Pere Coll, inspired by the Formentor pines, hand-blown glass from Gordiola, a Mallorcan glassworks dating back to the 1700s, and woven pieces by textile artist Adriana Meunié.

The setting is stunning, the beach is one of the best on the island, the food was great, and the service was the most anticipatory I’ve had in a long time. This is the kind of place where you arrive and don’t want to leave, but you still can if you want to.

Location
The grounds are huge and beautiful, and I loved all the trees. The pine trees here are famous, and they shade the beach and line the hillsides. The views are amazing. The drive in is winding, so if you get motion sick like me, plan for it. You can also arrive by boat. The town of Pollença is very close, so it’s easy to get out and explore. The area is a mecca for bikers and hikers.

The room
The rooms are spacious and comfortable, and they carry the same design through, with natural materials and the light and shade doing a lot of the work. All rooms have views which is really special imho.

Service
The service was anticipatory and super kind. Because I came a night early, my paid night and my hosted stay were booked separately. When you extend like that, your key card stops working at the first checkout, even if you stay in the same room. After breakfast I went to the front desk to ask for a new one. Before I could say a word, they said, “Good morning, Mrs. Hand,” and handed me my new card. I haven’t had that level of anticipatory service in a while. The reps are also super responsive and genuinely care. The level of friendly yet top notch service was really impressive.

Food & beverage

The food was great. I had sobrassada with breakfast every morning. It’s a soft, spreadable cured pork sausage made with paprika, and it’s a Mallorcan specialty. It was the best thing I ate on my whole Spain trip. If you see it on the menu, order it.

Amenities & activities
The beach is one of the best on the island. The boat day is a must. It was one of the best days of my whole trip. The color of the water here is unreal. I have never seen cornflower blue water like that ever. They also have a great kids club, and there’s two private fincas for events.

Who this is for

  • Families, because the kids club is great and the beach is perfect for kids
  • Anyone who wants beach, nature and quiet, with a charming town close by
  • Hikers and bikers
  • Couples and honeymooners who want privacy and views
  • Groups celebrating something, since the private finca works well for events
  • Anyone who values service that anticipates what you need

Who this is not for

  • Anyone who wants to be close to Palma, big-city restaurants or nightlife
  • Anyone who gets carsick and doesn’t want to make the winding drive, unless you arrive by boat

Final thoughts
If you want beach, nature and seamless service, this is the one. It is now one of my all time favorite Four Seasons, up there with FS Florence. Pollença is close by if you want to get out, and the boat day is a must do (no matter where you stay). I’m already planning to come back with my family.

Happy to answer any questions.

All photos are my own except the last one which is from the FS website but I wanted to show the hotel from that angle to give it a sense of place for you all.


r/FATTravel • • 1d ago

Milestone - Destination Recommendation

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It may seem like I am all over the place, so apologies in advance Mod if this breaks any rules.

I’m celebrating a milestone and looking at a 12 day holiday in April. As of now we have shortlisted:

  1. Hawaii - not sure of what to do / hotels.

  2. Fiji - seems like 12 days will be a lot?

  3. Tahiti - Brando + FS + ?

  4. Bali - Mandapa + Amankila + Nihi Sumba

Me + partner (adults).

Flights / time - is not an issue.

Any recommendations or if anyone has done all 4 destinations. Want a holiday with no pre-agenda. The run up to April will be busy.


r/FATTravel • • 1d ago

April vacation

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Looking for recommendations for good Hawaiian hotels. We typically like hotels similar to Lupaia in Tuscany, edition in Barcelona, and Can Ferrereta in Mallorca. Looking for a more wellness focused vacation and less kids present on the resort. Looking for 4 or 5 star. Good food, willing to pay $$$ but want it to be worth it.


r/FATTravel • • 1d ago

Cabo Safety

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My fiance and I are looking at honeymoon options and we are having a California leg of our trip and we are debating on going to Cabo. He is concerned about the safety there but we will be at our resort for a majority of the time. If not Cabo then we would go to Hawaii (this December - don't judge us for planning it so late lol) let me know your thoughts


r/FATTravel • • 2d ago

First half of September in Paro, Punakha, Gangtey — Monsoon weather, Six Senses / Aman /como deals

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Hi everyone,

I'm currently planning a trip to Bhutan for either first half of September or October 2027 ( focussing on Paro, Punakha, and Gangtey). I have question for those who have traveled there during this time or stayed at these properties:

  1. Weather & Rainfall From my research, early September is still a shoulder/transitional period coming off the summer monsoon season. How intense/disruptive is the rainfall typically during the first 2 weeks of September in terms of hiking and driving? Is it mostly late afternoon/night rain, or should I expect full washouts, heavy mud on hiking trails, and landslide delays on the road to Gangtey?
  2. Six Senses & Amankora (Aman) Discounted Rates Both Six Senses and Amankora offer monsoon/low-season deals. * For those who stayed during this window to grab the discounted rates, was it worth it? Or did poor visibility/heavy rain compromise the experience enough that you wished you paid peak season prices for late September/October?
  3. COMO Uma vs. Six Senses / Amankora COMO Uma (Paro & Punakha) comes in at a significantly lower price point than Six Senses or Amankora. * For anyone who has stayed at both COMO and Amankora/Six Senses, is the accommodation, service, and food at COMO noticeably a step down? Im aware COMO doesn't have a property in Gangtey (so I’d likely stay at Gangtey Lodge, Amankora, or Six Senses there), but I’d love to know if saving on Paro/Punakha with COMO is a smart move.

Would love to hear any real experience, tips, or insights from your past journeys! Thanks in advance!


r/FATTravel • • 3d ago

Mandarin Oriental Punta Negra: an incredible spa at a hotel still finding its rhythm

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I just got back from Mallorca, where I spent three nights at Mandarin Oriental Punta Negra. It’s brand new and getting a lot of buzz, so here’s how it actually felt to stay there.

Who went
Just me. I’m a travel advisor, and the hotel gave me a travel industry rate for this stay.

When we went
September 24 to 27 of this year

Overall impressions
Punta Negra is still very new, and it shows in both good and not-so-good ways. The spa is already excellent, and I had one of the best massages of my life there. Service and room service were still a bit inconsistent while I was there, which I’d expect a new team to smooth out. I’d hope by next year they will be able to iron the kinks out.

Location
It’s a great spot if you want to be close to Palma or the yachts. Personally, I prefer somewhere a little more remote, but that comes down to what you’re looking for. I am not really into a scene and this felt more "sceney" which can be a plus for some or a negative for others like me.

The room
The room was comfortable, but a few things need attention. The AC struggled to keep up, and I had to have them bring me a fan since I am in surgical menopause. I also had some ants, and the spray they used had a strong smell. My room, 5009, didn’t have much privacy, so I’d ask for a different one. Some of the casita rooms are newly redone, and the landscaping around the older ones still needs work, so ask for a renovated room when you book.

One heads-up: staff tended to come straight in after knocking, so use the Do Not Disturb if you want your space.

I saw the presi suite (where apparently Roger Federer stayed for almost a month this summer) has beautiful views and stands out with the private rooftop pool.

Service
It was mixed. Some staff were lovely, and at the pool it varied a lot depending on who was working. There’s free ice cream by the pool, which is a sweet touch, but it wasn’t always staffed. WhatsApp was great some of the time, and other times it took around 30 minutes to get a reply.

Food & beverage
Breakfast was busy, and the staff were stretched. Serving it in two spots would help a lot. The breakfast food was great though, and they remembered my order in the mornings. Room service was hit or miss. One order was excellent. Another came with the wrong salad, and one arrived cold.

Amenities & activities
The spa is the standout. I had the Time Ritual Massage, and it was one of the best massages I’ve ever had. Right now the adults-only pool isn’t separate from the rest of the pool area, but I was told they plan to separate it which I think is the right move.

Final thoughts
Punta Negra has a lot going for it. The spa is fantastic, and the location is easy if you want to be near Palma. It still has some opening-year kinks to work out. Make sure to ask for a renovated room and go in with a little patience. I think it’ll be in a really good place once the team finds its rhythm.

Happy to answer any questions.


r/FATTravel • • 3d ago

Great hotels for light sleepers in Tokyo, Osaka and Kyoto.

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Hi, I will be travelling to Japan at the start of November and am looking to pick hotels for these three cities.
I have a niche recommendation request regarding sleep accommodation.
My priority is hotels that would ensure great sound insulation between my room and hallway (I noticed many japanese hotels doors, even luxury ones, do not have any kind of threahold and there is a small gap between the doors and floor), other rooms and, of course, the outside.
It would also be very beneficial if the bed were further away from the hallway door and if there was another door separating the bed from the hallway.
Blackout curtains are also a must.

Is anyone else quite a light sleeper and had good experience with a specific hotel and room type and could give me examples?

Budget could be up to 1500 eur (265k yen) / night, but it is absolutely not necessary to reach it.

Thanks a lot.


r/FATTravel • • 3d ago

Loved Daios Cove. What’s the next level up in Europe?

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My partner and I just got back from four nights at Daios Cove in Crete and absolutely loved it. I’d probably give it a 10/10 for what we wanted from the trip: exceptional service, very good food, beautiful and spotless rooms, and just an incredibly easy place to disappear for a few days, cozy up and properly disconnect.

The only real negative was the beach, which at times had a surprising amount of plastic and other garbage washing up. I know that can be difficult to control with currents and wind, but it was the one thing that felt out of step with the rest of the property.

Otherwise, honestly, close to 10/10 for us.

So: what would you consider one or two levels up from Daios Cove in Europe?

We’re a couple with no kids, so adults-only is absolutely fine. Priorities are:

  • Exceptional service
  • Great food
  • Privacy / tranquility
  • Beautiful rooms and setting
  • A genuinely great spa is a big plus

Doesn’t need to be a beach resort, or even a resort at all. We’re also not looking to jump straight to €5k/night territory (although not opposed to it) more interested in what a meaningful step up from Daios looks like.

Would love recommendations, especially from anyone who knows Daios and can compare directly.


r/FATTravel • • 4d ago

Review: Fowlescombe Farm, Devon UK - Luxury Farm Stay With Neither a Farm Experience or Luxury

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Longtime poster here and FAT travel, honestly have never had an experience like this before.

My wife and I recently spent two nights at Fowlescombe Farm in Devon, arriving on a Saturday and departing on a Monday in October. I wanted to share our experience because the glowing reviews and press coverage we read before booking painted a very different picture from what we actually experienced.

TL;DR: The food was phenomenal and the property beautiful, but the farm experience was practically nonexistent, the service fell well short of luxury expectations, and we left deeply disappointed after spending £1,400 for two nights.

We genuinely wanted to love this place. Unfortunately, we left wishing we'd booked somewhere else for our autumn countryside getaway.

  1. Where exactly is the farm?

One of the main reasons we chose Fowlescombe was its promise of an immersive, luxurious working-farm experience.

Its website, social media, and early press coverage prominently feature sheep, cattle, pigs, piglets, chickens, and opportunities to engage with daily farm life. That's precisely what we wanted.

At check-in, we received a warm welcome with tea and cake, were shown around the property, and given a map and information about scheduled activities.

We specifically mentioned wanting to walk around and see the animals. The map included an area labeled "farmyard — no guest access," but I naively assumed that on a 450-acre working farm we'd encounter plenty of animals throughout the property.

Unfortunately, that wasn't the case.

We spent much of Saturday afternoon and Sunday exploring different trails and searching the accessible pastures for livestock.

We found exactly six sheep and three cows, located in a remote corner of the grounds where we could only observe them from a distance near a gate.

The surrounding pastures were also empty. We learned that the chickens had been "rehomed" and that other cattle were grazing in a restricted wooded area where we couldn't see them.

It eventually became apparent that the operational farmyard and barns were farther up a hill, beyond the woods, and not freely accessible to hotel guests.

I understand the realities of farming. Animals move, pastures need rest, and farms aren't petting zoos. But surely the appeal of booking an immersive working-farm retreat is the opportunity to actually experience the farm?

  1. The pigs: Repeatedly told no, while other visitors apparently received access.

This was perhaps the most frustrating part of our stay, particularly after what we discovered when we returned home.

Sunday morning: At breakfast, we specifically asked a member of staff about seeing the animals, including the pigs and piglets.

She initially seemed enthusiastic and offered to investigate where they were.

When she returned, however, her demeanor seemed noticeably different. We were told that the pigs were up near the barns rather than in the accessible fields, and that we couldn't see them. She didn't mention the sheep and just said we might see some cows at the edge of the property. We were also informed that the piglets had recently undergone a medical procedure.

We completely understood the animal welfare considerations and had no intention of disturbing recovering animals.

What disappointed us was that nobody offered an alternative. No supervised visit elsewhere, no suggestion of other accessible livestock like sheep, and no meaningful way to experience the farm since the next "Farm Visit" activity wasn't scheduled until Tuesday. I suspect she was afraid to tell us, they probably moved all the animals to the farmyard for fall and we couldn't see any of them outside of when its a scheduled activity.

Sunday evening: At dinner, we overheard another guest discussing the piglets with a different staff member, who indicated that they would be able to see them on Tuesday during the scheduled farm tour.

This left us confused. Were the pigs unavailable because of medical concerns, or was access simply restricted to scheduled tours?

Rather than give up, we asked again on Sunday evening whether we could arrange to see the pigs on Monday morning before leaving.

Monday morning: We were again told that seeing the pigs wasn't possible. So after repeatedly asking throughout our stay, we departed without being able to visit the pigs or meaningfully engage with daily farm life.

Then came a particularly disappointing discovery.

After returning home, my wife came across social media content appearing to show another couple being personally taken to see the pigs, apparently on Monday.

What made this particularly frustrating was that we recognized the couple. We had personally seen them check in on Sunday while we were staying at the property. One of the visitors appeared to be a chef at another luxury countryside hotel.

I want to be fair: We don't know what arrangements were made for their visit, but from our perspective, it was incredibly disheartening.

We had expressed our interest at check-in, asked on Sunday morning, and specifically requested a Monday morning visit again that evening.

Perhaps there's a reasonable explanation for the apparent difference in treatment, but it certainly raised questions about whether farm experiences are offered consistently to guests.

For £700 per night, that was exceptionally disappointing.

  1. Friendly staff, but nowhere near luxury-level service

Unfortunately, the farm wasn't our only disappointment.

I want to emphasize that individual staff members were generally friendly and accommodating when we specifically asked for something. But being friendly and responding to requests isn't the same as delivering thoughtful, personalized luxury hospitality.

Throughout our stay, nearly everything felt reactive rather than proactive.

A few examples:

Housekeeping: Our initial turndown was basic, and plates weren't cleared from the room. We received no apparent daytime housekeeping on Sunday, with items remaining until the evening turndown.

In-room amenities: Refreshments consisted essentially of tea, coffee, milk, and water. Earlier coverage described thoughtfully stocked minibars with local treats in certain suite categories. Those touches were absent from our accommodation.

Afternoon drinks and cake in the greenhouse: This was probably the clearest example of the lack of attention to detail.

We texted staff approximately 90 minutes ahead to arrange drinks and cake in the greenhouse. They happily confirmed.

When we arrived, however, nothing had been prepared. Nobody was there, no table had been set up, and the fire wasn't lit.

Eventually, a staff member arrived, took our drinks order, returned with cake, and mentioned we could get more from another building if we wanted. Only afterward did they ask whether we'd like the fire turned on.

I know these sound like relatively minor complaints individually, but isn't that precisely what distinguishes a genuinely exceptional luxury hotel from an ordinary one?

We weren't expecting anything extravagant. A prepared table, a lit fire, or some small personalized touch would have made a real difference.

Instead, despite arranging everything in advance, it felt as though we'd simply turned up unannounced.

At a property with roughly ten suites and seemingly 2 other guests during our visit, we expected considerably more attention to detail.

  1. Even the advertised experiences didn't quite match reality

On Sunday, we attended a bread-making activity described in the experience booklet as hands-on. The chef was lovely and kindly showed us around the garden.

However, the bread-making itself consisted of watching him prepare bread for that evening's dinner. There was no meaningful participation.

Given that we couldn't access the farm or participate in agricultural activities, this could have been a wonderful opportunity to offer something interactive and memorable.

  1. The glowing reviews from 2025 describe a very different experience

Before booking, we'd read several glowing articles published shortly after Fowlescombe opened.

A review in The Sunday Times described extensive prearrival consultations, bedding preferences, activity planning, and thoughtful personal touches.

Country Life described guests engaging with daily farm life, including collecting eggs, and feeding animals.

Other early coverage emphasized exceptionally personalized hospitality and thoughtfully stocked rooms.

Our experience was very different:

\- Prearrival planning: Contact was limited to arranging train station transportation and confirming dinner times.

\- Farm involvement: Absolutely no opportunity to participate in daily farm life.

\- Animal encounters: No chickens, no accessible pigs, and only six sheep and three cows visible from a distance.

\- Activities: A supposed hands-on bread-making experience that was simply a demonstration.

\- Service: Almost everything required us to ask rather than being anticipated.

It left us wondering whether things have changed significantly since opening, whether autumn is a particularly poor time to visit, or whether weekends simply aren't receiving the same attention.

Interestingly, Monday morning felt somewhat different. We noticed more of what appeared to be senior management around the property and finally met Basil, the gardener's dog, who was genuinely one of the highlights of our trip.

I can't say whether the difference was due to staffing or simply coincidence, but it made us wonder if a weekday stay might have been different.

At £700 per night, guests shouldn't need to guess which days of the week will deliver the experience being advertised.

  1. The food was exceptional, but it couldn't save the stay.

I want to give credit where it's deserved. The food at Fowlescombe was genuinely outstanding.

Every meal was excellent, and the chefs clearly take tremendous pride in what they do. The quality, creativity, and attention to detail in the dining experience were easily the highlights of our stay.

The property itself is also beautiful, with spectacular views across the Devon countryside.

However, excellent food alone doesn't justify £700 per night, particularly when the other defining elements of the property fall so far short of expectations.

If you're in the area and looking for somewhere special to have dinner, Fowlescombe might be worth considering.

  1. Contacting management

Edit since posting:

Update: Management's Response

Following our stay, I was contacted by the owner after sharing our concerns. To her credit, she responded promptly and initially seemed genuinely receptive, acknowledging service failures and offering to discuss our experience personally.

Her subsequent response, however, felt considerably more defensive. Several explanations seemed to mischaracterize our concerns or shift responsibility back onto us, citing our relatively late booking(week in advance), the fact that we were apparently in our room when housekeeping attempted service(not true), and our failure to raise a formal complaint at checkout(don't see what that would change).

Much of the response also focused on explaining the piglets' medical procedure and defending the property's status as a legitimate working farm. (It's obvious the farm and hotel are 2 different entities). Neither was ever our criticism. Our disappointment was the complete absence of meaningful farm engagement and the lack of thoughtful, proactive hospitality throughout our stay.

To her credit, she did acknowledge a disconnect between what was advertised and what was available during our visit, apologized for specific service failures, and offered a £775 refund, which we appreciate and intend to accept.

While that is a meaningful gesture, I came away feeling that the underlying criticism still hadn't been fully understood. Our disappointment was never about any one animal or individual service failure, but the cumulative absence of the personalized luxury farm experience we had paid for.

Final thoughts: Not worth £1,400 for two nights

My advice to anyone considering booking: Ask very specific questions in advance. Will the actual working farm be accessible during your dates? Can you see or interact with animals? Are farm visits available outside scheduled tours? What hands-on experiences will genuinely be offered?

Don't assume that what's described in the early press coverage or shown on social media will necessarily be available during your stay.


r/FATTravel • • 3d ago

7 nights in bali

2 Upvotes

Looking for a nice mix of adventure and relaxation. Was thinking mandapa riverfront villa. Where else should be stay/go? July 2027.


r/FATTravel • • 4d ago

Mini moon advice

3 Upvotes

Hello! Looking for a last minute mini moon resort at the end of October leaving from South Carolina. Looking for a beautiful beach, good food, easy to get to from SC and New York. No budget!


r/FATTravel • • 4d ago

Honeymoon Destination Advice!

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My husband and I are planning our honeymoon for February/March 2027, and we'd love some destination recommendations!

For context, we absolutely LOVE Thailand. We've visited twice in the past two years (Bangkok, Krabi, and Phuket), and it's easily become our favorite destination. We love the combination of amazing food, beautiful beaches, luxury hotels, exploring different places, and having plenty to do. We definitely plan to keep returning to Thailand over the years!

For our honeymoon, we always imagined we'd go to the Maldives or Bora Bora. But the more I think about it, the more I wonder whether we'd actually enjoy spending our entire honeymoon at a beach resort. The Maldives looks absolutely stunning, and we LOVE a beautiful beach and relaxing at a gorgeous hotel. However, my husband isn't particularly into water activities, and I worry we might get bored after a few days.

Ideally, we'd love a honeymoon that combines adventure, exploring, incredible food, beautiful scenery, luxury, and some beach relaxation.

A few destinations/combinations we've considered:

  • Japan + Maldives: Japan has been on our bucket list for a while, and we thought pairing it with the Maldives could give us the best of both worlds. The only downside is that Japan isn't particularly close to the Maldives, so we're wondering whether the travel time between the two would be worth it, especially for a two-week trip.
  • Tokyo + Koh Samui: We haven't visited Koh Samui yet, and since we already love Thailand, this could be a great option.
  • Vietnam + Cambodia: Both seem incredibly interesting, and we'd love to explore somewhere new in Southeast Asia.
  • Bora Bora: Still a dream destination, but we have similar concerns about spending the entire trip at a resort.
  • Greece: We'd absolutely love to visit, but February/March isn't ideal weather-wise, so we'll likely save it for another trip.

We're open to completely different destinations too! We're hoping to spend around two weeks on the trip, traveling from NYC.

For couples who enjoy a mix of adventure and luxury/beach relaxation, where did you honeymoon (or where would you recommend)? 

Wedding planning completely consumed our lives, and somehow we forgot to start planning the honeymoon early enough, so we're finally getting around to it. 😂

Thanks in advance!


r/FATTravel • • 4d ago

St barths NYE

3 Upvotes

Has anyone booked at barths NYE? I’ve never been but wanted I send it this year. I have villa booked.. just having a hard time deciding where to go what days! La guerite or gyp sea? Has anyone seen anything for palm tree? Has anyone done this before and know the vibes? I’ve also heard it’s a lot of spinning in fomo because everyone wants to be at the best event each day. I’ll enjoy myself wherever but I wanted to see if anyone has intel!


r/FATTravel • • 5d ago

Four Seasons Punta Mita Family Review

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Throw away account

I was fortunate to spend part of my summer with family this past June. Team Sarah Lee made sure my family and in-laws were squared away — we were a party of 14, and my wife and I were initially nervous about the trip’s dynamics. We ended up with many core memories instead. It was a beautiful vacation, and to this day I still daydream about floating on that lazy river.

I’m happy to answer questions, particularly if you have concerns about kids. That was the main selling point for me: I’d read it’s a great place for families with young ones, and it is. Plenty of families and kids were there, which was fantastic for my three (7 and under) — they loved the kids club and the activities.

TL;DR: Highly recommend if you have young kids. The service was great, especially with Team Sarah Lee (we had our own butler/support dialed in). The only caveat is the weather — rainy season can affect your day-to-day plans, which in our case meant sailing. Also, you can tell it's one of the older 4S properties however it didn't bother us.

Rooms & Hard Product

  • Oceanfront Plunge Pool Suite: Great layout with seamless indoor-outdoor flow. The plunge pool itself was warm and well-maintained, which is a huge plus with kids who want to splash around without heading all the way down to the main pool every ten minutes.
  • Property Age vs. Upkeep: It's an older estate compared to newer builds in Mexico, but the lush landscaping and maintenance are flawless. It feels established and grounded, not sterile.

Kids Club & Family Amenities

  • The Kids Club: Outstanding. The staff actually engage the kids with structured activities rather than just sticking them in a room with toys. It gave us a solid window of time to relax without feeling like the kids were just parked in front of a screen.
  • Pools & Beach: The property handles families well, but it gets busy during peak hours. The lazy river and tube floating were a massive hit with the kids—our whole family ended up making lifelong memories there just floating around together. The beach area is calm, clean, and easy to navigate with little ones.

Logistics & Service

  • Staff Execution: Flawless. We had a large multi-gen group moving on staggered schedules, and airport transfers, room placements, and group requests were handled without a single hiccup.
  • Preferred Partner Perks & Breakfast: In-room breakfast and the overall Preferred Partner benefits were seamless. Plus, the daily breakfast buffet was awesome—truly top-tier, standing right up there with the incredible spreads you get at FS Cabo San Lucas.

Dining & Activities

  • On-Property: Solid, reliable luxury resort fare. Dos Catrinas is great for dinner and views, and the casual beachside/pool grill setups made lunches effortless with the kids. Churros are awesome. Tip: Mix churros with ice cream.
  • Excursions & Weather Note: We rented a catamaran to get out on the water, but it turned into an unfortunate experience because we hit rainy weather. Definite tip: double-check the timing with the local rainy seasons if you're planning boat charters or outdoor-heavy itineraries, as it can be a gamble depending on the month.

The Verdict

If you need a turnkey, high-service resort where multi-gen family logistics actually work and the kids are genuinely entertained, Punta Mita is hard to fault. It may lack the ultra-modern architecture of newer spots, but the operational execution is top-tier.

Happy to answer any questions!


r/FATTravel • • 3d ago

A Little Overdue Love for Sarah Lee & Team — Four Seasons Cabo Del Sol and Mommy’s 80th! 🧡

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This post is long & long overdue! Sarah Lee and several members of her team have curated some wonderful trips for my family and I over the years. My only regret is not sharing the love sooner. But here I am!

Our most recent trip was particularly special because our favorite girl—my mom—is turning 80! We threw her a party last year, and this year she made it clear that she wanted to relax, enjoy herself, and have some great Mexican food. And that’s exactly what we did at FS Cabo Del Sol.

Unlike previous trips where Sarah and her team helped curate every aspect of the experience, this one was intentionally slow. No itinerary, no running from one activity to the next. My mom luxuriated, and it was gorgeous watching her!

Sarah’s team helped us coordinate a personalized welcome for my mom, complete with birthday decorations, her signature orange balloons, sips and snacks. It was such a thoughtful touch, and she loved it.

The property?! Chef’s kiss!
The architecture, hacienda design is stunning. we especially loved the archways, that village small town feel & the Mercado!

What I appreciated most, was the staff. The service was consistently FS warm, attentive, and genuinely thoughtful. What made this trip so memorable was that they celebrated my mom throughout our entire stay, not just at check-in. Everywhere we went, someone was wishing her a happy birthday or surprising her with cake and candles. They made her feel so special.

That same consistency is what we’ve come to appreciate about Sarah and her team. They’re incredibly responsive, attentive to the smallest details, and always seem to anticipate what we need. They’ll even respond to you on Christmas Day if necessary (not that I’m encouraging you to test that!), but you get my point lol!! The level of care doesn’t disappear once the reservation is made. AND the round-trip airport transfers came in clutch! Those little conveniences make a difference, especially when traveling with my mom. Beyond the perks, what I value most is knowing that someone who understands how we like to travel is looking out for us.

A huge thank-you to Sarah and her entire team, not just for making this milestone trip so special, but for all the beautiful experiences you’ve helped us create over the years.

And to the wonderful team at Four Seasons Cabo Del Sol, thank you for making our favorite girl feel like the queen she is. 🧡


r/FATTravel • • 4d ago

Southeast Asia June 2027 Honeymoon Itinerary

9 Upvotes

Long time reader, first time poster here. Planning my honeymoon for June 2027 from the US. Would like to get input from the group on the intinerary I have put together. I leveraged numerous posts from this group, which has been super helpful.

Singapore

Nights 1-2: TBD on lodging. We intend to relax in Singapore after a long-haul flight. Raffles seems like the obvious pick, but there appears to be some other FAT options. I remember admiring pictures from Marina Bay Sands when I was younger but it seems like this has become another Instagram spot.

Bali

Nights 3-6: Mandapa in Ubud. Mandapa seems like a can't miss based on my read of various posts here. Perfect blend of luxury, cultural experience, and relaxation after a few days of travel.

Sumba

Nights 7-9: Cap Karoso in Sumba. Do not want to miss any days here, but fine to lose one over NIHI in the worst case scenario that there is funny business with the flights. I have also read that while both hotels are gorgeous NIHI has the "wow" factor.

Nights 10-12: NIHI Sumba in Sumba. NIHI seems like a can't miss.

Singapore

Nights 13-15: TBD on lodging. Leaning towards Raffles as noted above, but also curious if it is worth fighting off the jet-lag at a non-FAT hotel at the beginning of the trip and ending at Raffles when we are completely adjusted.

Questions / Thoughts

  • Any suggestions on a hotel to battle the initial jet-lag? Ideally, we are centrally located somewhere that can help start the trip slow.
  • Is four nights too long in Mandapa? Anyone have a strong opinion on three vs. four nights?
  • Is five out of fifteen nights too much in Singapore? Should I be thinking about another destination?
  • I contemplated Bawah Reserve over Sumba, but ultimately decided that Sumba flows a bit more organically in terms of travel logistics.
  • Any strong preference of Raffles vs. other FAT hotels in the area? I am not interested in staying in Sentosa given the rest of the itinerary.

Any and all feedback is welcomed!


r/FATTravel • • 5d ago

rate my july 2027 mexico itinerary

4 Upvotes

my wife and i wanted to take a vacation while our kids are away at summer camp. Open to input or suggestions:

Casa Polanco CDMX 2 nights

Belmond San Miguel de Allende 2 nights

Las Ventanas Cabo 5 nights

Not sold on mexico. wanted to do italy originally (como/scicily) but want to spend under 40k


r/FATTravel • • 5d ago

Goldwynn Resort Bahamas

5 Upvotes

Considering Goldwynn for a family trip this winter with the kids aged 11, 9, 4. Does anyone have recent intel on the resort? Would you recommend another resort instead? We are a beach family and just need sun and warm water :-) . Thanks!


r/FATTravel • • 5d ago

Chicago First Timer in December

9 Upvotes

My wife and I are going for a weekend the 1st or 2nd weekend in December to experience the Christmas season. We want a great spa, great hotel, Christmas market, shopping, and great food. What are your recommendations? We love steak, sushi, great coffee shops and breakfast stops is a must. Budget is roughly $500 ish a night for the hotel but I'm open to move the budget if it's really worth it. Everything else I don't really have a budget.


r/FATTravel • • 5d ago

Japan Spa Resort Recommendations

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We will be in Japan for 3 weeks in December. My wife will want to fill our itinerary with busy activities unless I can find some really relaxing stretches as an alternative. I’m looking for something similar to a Forestis type stay. Do you have any recommendations? Open to anywhere in the country as our time right now is wide open. Somewhere peaceful, high end and with good food.

Any other recommendations while there? We will likely do a week in Tokyo then a week between Osaka/Kyoto and then maybe some time around Hiroshima or we could even go up north to Sapporo? Okinawa is also an option. We are also considering hopping over to Seoul for the last week if we run out of prime options in Japan. We’re from Toronto so we won’t get there again for a long while.