Hello, not sure how to share a post intelligently so I’ll just link my original
https://www.reddit.com/r/EDH/s/bQ4tJJYQtS
TLDR : Was asking about use of Breach combo in B3

I had a Dragon Deck that used the Breach Combo as an ALT wincon. It worked well in those longer games that drag-on because someone is playing a more prison type strategy.

I’ve since upped the deck to B4. I added a few more game changers (Jeskas, Mana Vault, Ancient Tomb).
I also got rid of a few pet cards that just weren’t doing anything in the faster B4. Once I got the deck in a good spot I started tracking W/L and so far it’s 19-13. I’d say at least 50% of the 13 loses I’m in the game not just getting rolled. 59% win rate not too bad.

It’s a dragon deck primarily and that’s where most of the wins come from but it does have this ability to gamble its way to a breach line. Probably 70-30 on wins with both sides of the deck. And complaining is almost non-existent. The last two guys to complain were both Light Paws players about to lethal everyone so that’s interesting.

I get this a lot, “Breach in red dragons? I wouldn’t pick that”. But the dragons are a real threat that will burn you out and act as lighting rods for removal and wipes. If I play a few dragons and force some interaction it can put stuff in my grave for a big breach turn. And with the extra gas with Jeskas breach is a little easier to make happen if my grave is big.

Do I think Breach is too strong for B3? Yea maybe but it’s also legal. Some guys play Thassa or Bolas. I’m keeping my deck B4 since I love a nice win where no one complains at the end. If my LGS ever had a B3 tournament though I’d remake the original B3 Dragon-Breachers cause that thing was a menace.

So i had this idea of a deck around firion, cause he abillity is in my opinion almost a perfect representation of emya (archer) of fate, and i love the series. I am currently on this build https://moxfield.com/decks/LMPurPsgEkWtHfxAzTnvTg

I can explain some choices lorewise, Excalibur is obvious but my favorite one is the aetherhub being his noble phantasm.

Powerwise this deck is ok, not trying to be like cedh or even high bracket 4, but he is so fun to play with. And gilgamesh being a better card for deckcommander than him is almost poetic.

Would wanna hear somo tips and suggestions (my to buylist is: reaver cleaver and swordsman steel)

Mystery Booster Commander edition launched this week but was only sold on the Secret Lair Chaos vault. Its been four years since we last got a draftable commander set and now the only commander set for draft is exclusively available from scalpers until the next Secret Lair drop. You can't say "just proxy them" to do a draft. Yes there's printing capacity limits but I'm really tired of hearing all the excuses and am fatigued from wasting time to have the privilege to give WOTC my money. I don't care enough about the set to pay scalper prices, but knowing it exists and could be printed to demand is incredibly frustrating. I'll still be playing Magic late next year when it could be shipped via print to demand, so why not let me rack up my credit card for that? The ideal solution would be to cut a UB standard set for a commander set every year, but the cynical side of me thinks WOTC would rather give us more Hobbit and Spider-Man.

https://archidekt.com/decks/27523099/edh_bast_the_panther_goddess

Hello r/EDH community! I’ve come here to share my Bast, Panther Goddess deck! I’m a longtime lurker but had an experience with my play group that inspired me to post! This list is more than likely a bracket 3 deck with out game changers. I could be wrong about that but the responses I got from my friends was a bit to that effect. There is a primer for the deck but the TLDR is you kill with commander damage while going wide with tokens. It is a very resilient deck that put up an impressive performance against my play group. Now do your thing Reddit! Tell me how much my deck sucks and tell me how I could build it better! Also I’m down for any fun card suggestions!

It feels like any strong commander is labeled “kill on sight” and people on the internet will warn you against playing it, lest you have a bad time or something.

While I’ve generally found that strong commanders are strong and running them is fun, usually leading to the powerful commander using its powerful abilities and sometimes even winning the game, I got curious—does anybody have any non-KOS commanders that pilot very strong B3 decks?

Post those lists!

I have come up with my proudest deck yet. With the new commander coming out Olag and Miau who does damage to each opponent based on tapped cats and zombies I finally found the abzan deck that was calling to me.

The premise is to create a bunch of cats. Throw down some spaceships and make the cats crew them. The best zombie support is in here as well to pump the cats but the primary focus is cats and spaceships.

I haven't added much in the way of interaction yet and still have 26 slots to add whatever I need. Outside of generic interaction are there any key cards the deck is missing?

https://archidekt.com/decks/27698500/cats_cant_attack_unless_they_are_in_a_spaceship

Hello folks, wondering if it would be alright to build [[selvala, heart of the wild]] as a stronger bracket 3 commander.

Would not include [[staff of domination]] or [[umbral mantle]] combos, and I’d generally just be hoping to ramp into stompy nonsense.

I’ve heard online that she’s too much for bracket 3 and people might refuse to play against the deck.

Thanks everyone!

I’m looking for a commander for my gf that has sick art preferably borderless and horror leaning so black aligned but multi coloured aswell, that can sit in b4 comfortably, ive sorted through all 3000 borderless commanders or so and idk maybe ive missed something that others might have a better opinion on

https://archidekt.com/decks/24461129/isshin_brawler

This is Isshin built upon what I saw on Game Knights, but I had like 20 cards from it, and so I got some, changed some, and this is the result. Im looking to getting someone experienced to see if the deck will work as I intended, a fast aggro deck that will make other players sacrifice their slow buildup or die. Theres alot of heavy control decks in my local meta and honestly Im tired of games taking an hour or more because some ppl have avg mana cost 5 or higher. Ive removed Aggravated Assault coz its expensive as hell, idk how much does this deck need the extra combat. Also since the slow meta I opted for more board protection to stop them from just ramping a single board wipe and be done with me. Whaddya think?

Kinda burned out with commander and deckbuilding, none of my decks feel like they work in our pod. This deck is meant to be a bracket 4 version of my favourite precon. Just need some feedback if this is a bit coherent or complete doodoo.

goldfishing leads to a turn 4/5 win attempt or a wiff

remarks/thoughts:

landcount to low? (really low avg manacost and already went from 31 to 33)

not enough draw?

https://archidekt.com/decks/25686669/b4_kilo

If you're entrenched enough in this hobby, you've definitely had the experience of losing interest in a built deck after 3-5 plays (maybe even one if you're unlucky!). Tell me about your favorite deck that isn't like that - one you've had for a long time and that you never get tired of playing. What about it gives it that staying power?

I really want to make an Abzan deck cause I tend to play only 2 colors in my decks, the only one I have with 3 colors its my favorite deck Illuna, Apex of Wishes which is a mutate/stomp/voltron deck, the other ones I have are Runo/Krothus copy/reanimate, Gev Ping/Aggro and the new Aerid Konstrari with copy/sac/voltron .

The 5 Commanders that caught my attention were:

1. [[Nethroi, Apex of Death]]

2. [[Kathril, Aspect Warper]]

3. [[Betor, Kin to All]]

4. [[Vishgraz, the Doomhive]]

5. [[Felothar, Dawn of the Abzan]]

Among these who do you all recommend?

Deck list: https://archidekt.com/decks/26569149/can_we_pretend_that_airplanes_in_the_night_sky

Like the title says, I feel as though the deck has a hard time doing much of anything until around turn 4-5 and doesn't really feel like it can push for a win until turn 10-11. Ideally, it wants to win through big X spells or clone effects on Roxanne or ETB creatures like Etali, Primal Conqueror. Any suggestions to have the deck push for wins/board presence earlier?

Would you consider this Smaug deck a low or high bracket 3? There are several 3 cards combos but I intentionally left out fast mana and rituals, in order not to finish before turn 6. Also, I built it rather budget and with cards I mostly already own.

Also, budget improvements are welcome:)

https://moxfield.com/decks/CQUxiutON0-DxzPzQA4Z2w

[[Shorikai]]

Since i started EDH i very often saw Shorikai being hyped up but every time i read his abilities i fail to see why.

I mostly play casual B3 and with 4 mana, a tap ability i fail to see a turn 7-10 win somehow.

In an average game starting with a mana rock i would get him out on turn 3 and start advancing draw and pilots at turn 4. Doing that every turn kinda puts me at 3 plus cards and 3 pilots at turn 7. How do i win from that point?

My main issue is that there are so many commanders out there from where i see much more value with 4 cmc and even below.

Even as a voltron engine i fail to imagine him going harder than any natural trampler, since you need a card for evasion and double strike + buff to oneshot (which are all not hard in azorius).

And too make it work with untappers is also not a biggie in that colors, but i feel there is too much jank or other expensive cards to even make it work in todays B3 environment.

Dont get me wrong, i think he is really solid, but... Kinda being out powercrept lately?

Edit: I am convinced now that Shorikai is absolutely busted, thank you all!

I’ve been playing with the black foundation precon for a bit and decided to try my luck with a witherbloom bundle. I managed to pull witherbloom, so I’m tempted to use them as my commander in order to make my expensive spells (Necrotic hex, Army of the damned, etc) cheaper.

Felothar deck list

Got some great advice for this deck already on this sub, but I’m still having the hardest time cutting down the last 15 cards. Of course I want to keep a lot of the defender cards but I’m trying to maintain a good amount of card advantage and ramp. Any suggestions, especially any obvious cards to remove, would be much appreciated!

Felothar deck list

Got some great advice for this deck already on this sub, but I’m still having the hardest time cutting down the last 15 cards. Of course I want to keep a lot of the defender cards but I’m trying to maintain a good amount of card advantage and ramp. Any suggestions, especially any obvious cards to remove, would be much appreciated!

[[Krile Baldesion]] is a cool little commander. She cares about mana value and harmony between your creatures and non creatures. She is "The little Guy" deck to me.

I was playing her in high bracket 2. The game plan was to make a lot of little creatures on the board, do a little bit of table control to slow the table down because our deck is not fast, and then buff the board. We accrue value with some mill pieces or just using krile to recover lost pieces.

The deck is mostly mana value 1 and 2, and has only a couple of cards that don't have a 2 mana value or less side to it,

I'm trying to bring it into bracket 3 with this list. I liked the idea of having a backup combo, because the swing out strategy isn't that strong. Perhaps if that doesn't work, I can try to switch game plans on the fly.

So I added [[Nomads En-Kor]] and [[Cephalid Illusionist]]. Together, these two can mill your entire deck. Usually that's finished with a thassa's oracle to win. But here I'm using [[Fblthp, impossibly lost]]. If i don't draw it, the combo will mill it to the graveyard. I can then summon my commander, play a 2 mana non creature spell, grab Fblthp, and play him. Then I'll need a creature already on the field and to swing. [[Artful Dodge]] can help connect. Altogether that's 10 mana across 5 cards (2 can be milled, 1 is my commander). So it needs to draw 2 of them at least and connect with combat damage

I goldfished 5 times. I got the combo 0 times. Twice, I had 50 damage on board at turn 7 (and like barely any damage before that). The other 3 times I had middling damage by then

So I want to ask for feedback. How to improve the deck for bracket 3. Card choices etc. If the combo plan will help. If the combo is appropriate (reddit was aggressively saying it's not bracket 3 appropriate. I asked only one of my friends in the pod so far and he said it'd be sweet to play that)

Please let me know your thoughts!

How to force players to lose the life with starseer mentor

In my deck, I have [[starseer mentor]] Starseer mentor says "at the beginning of your end step if you gained life this turn, target player loses 3 life unless they sacrifice a nonland permanent or discard a card."

So my opponent is given choice of damage, discard, or saccing a permanent. Problem is, they almost always choose to avoid the damage. In the 30 or so games I've played with him, only 3 of the times did they choose to take damage.

I want to force them to take the damage. My commander is [[firja, judge of valor]] so it's black and white. Anyone know how to make this possible? I'm not worried about budget, if there's a card I want, I'll save up for it.

Deck list:

https://moxfield.com/decks/cvkzXVJLx0qFco2_IMwayA

EDH is best.

With that said, I’m sure your pod will enjoy a curated Battle Box (link to explain what a battle box is) to switch it up a little!

I deconstructed a couple of my old EDH decks that had some cross synergy and created a Battle Box for a 4 player pod that is ready to play, tons of synergy and hidden commanders.

The box includes 160 cards, with everyone drawing from one shared nonland deck, a shared graveyard (optional) and a separate land pile. Players start with 4 cards, and you choose one land per turn from your own land pile (2 of each color basic).

For my box, the central theme is artifacts and overlapping synergies: ETB effects, flicker, sacrifice, death triggers, recursion, Treasures, artifact creatures and tokens. There’s also plenty of traditional creature combat, interaction, and bigger finishers. Creating your own design constraints balances the box and is a fun deck building puzzle!

My goal isn’t to make every game play the same way or force players into rigid archetypes. I built a self-contained environment where cards have individual value but reward creative combinations, leading to different board states and paths to victory.

Here is my list:

https://moxfield.com/decks/0vafASTlX3KJU_vykFKHTg

https://moxfield.com/decks/yVTTN_2qxEu05gngoT0zFg

I'm currently trying to build a Doran list that I can play at more casual tables since my other decks are fairly high power (upper bracket 3 or 4) and I wanted something I could play in a more laid back pod without having to worry about the table getting upset at me for playing a high power deck during a casual game.

So I pulled a [[Kwia Vigorbloom]] and I want to build a deck for it but I soon realized Selesnya isn't a good lifegain deck since there is almost no payoff in that color.(i know there are cards like [[Aetherflux Reservoir]], etc.

I realized I needed to add black to this deck since a lot of them use life as a resource.

Then I came across [[Betor, Ancenstor's Voice]] and concluded he would make a great lifegain commander with Kwia in the 99.

Now im not sure i want to go this route since the whole point of this endeavor was to make Kwia the centerpiece.

Should I stick with Betor and keep kwia in the 99 or go with Kwia?

I want to make this a B3 since everyone at my LGS play on that power level.