I had a strange experience this morning while trying to fall back asleep, and was curious if this constitutes a real AP, or some sort of dream related state.

I woke up at 8 am, trying to go back to bed. I entered a dream-like state where I was in my bedroom, in the exact physical place my body was resting. The main difference was the room was dark, meanwhile it was light outside.

I started feeling some slight mild vibrations, electrostatic shocks (I have AP'd before so I am familiar), but did not think much of it. I became aware that I was in an altered state.

I never had a 'separation' but suddenly I noticed I began exploring my house. I dont remember getting out of my bed in that dream, just suddenly I was walking.

I was walking around, trying to turn on the light switches, and they did not turn any lights on. I also tried to walk through a wall to see if it would work, and it did not work.

Eventually and curiously since I was aware I was in this state, I returned to my bedroom to see if I can find my physical body. I literally lifted up the sheets on my bed, and saw my physical body resting as normal and in the position I normally sleep.

I quickly panicked, and then I 'woke' up, but was back in the original 'dream' where I was just laying in my bed. This I believe is a false awakening.

Eventually I just woke up for real.

Is this considered an out of body, or some combination of dreams? Can you astral project while dreaming?

Not the big flying moments. The small, boring detail that had no reason to be there. A sound in the next room, a crack in a wall you later found was real, the wrong colour on something you know well. For a lot of people it's the unremarkable detail that does the convincing. What was yours?

I've been trying to AP for quite a while and haven't been able to project. Here is my latest, one of the most successful attempts.

I laid on my back and relaxed my body as much as I can and started to focus on behind my eye lids. First there were nothing and after some time it started to show some static and I focused on them.

I felt my body getting more relaxed with jaw dropping, neck muscles relaxing, forehead muscles relaxing and such. Every time I see such a sign of relaxing I take 3 deep breaths to keep myself from clicking out. 

After sometime of focusing on static, the blackness behind my eyes became more darker and becomes pitch black. Also I kind of felt like my limbs are squeezing for a little time as well. Could not go beyond that. Also is this the void state people here are talking about?

I asked Gemini about this saying the same thing and it said this.

You hit a common plateau: Passive Observational Trap.

When the blackness became deeper and your limbs felt squeezed, you stayed in "watching mode," expecting the state to deepen on its own or wait for something else to happen. In the Direct Method, the state will not progress beyond the deep blackness passively. Once physical sensory input cuts out, your brain simply holds that baseline until you either fall asleep or give it a strong kinesthetic command.

The exact second that deep 3D blackness opens up or you feel that limb-squeezing sensation, stop looking at the darkness.That visual transition is your cue that the motor blockade is active. Immediately execute your kinesthetic trigger.

Is this legit?

Help me out please!
Thank you for your time!!

This memory has never left me. I was about 4 or 5 years old when I experienced something I still can’t explain.

I remember suddenly being up near the ceiling, looking down at my own body. I was sleeping next to my mom, and I could see both of us lying there.
When I looked up, I saw what looked like a portal in the ceiling. It was almost as if the portal had opened, dropped me into the room, and then closed behind me. I remember slowly floating downward toward my body until I eventually entered it. As soon as I did, I felt this strange tingling sensation throughout my body.

I immediately woke up, looked at the ceiling, and thought, How did I just do that?
I’m 34 now, so this happened almost 30 years ago, yet I remember it so vividly, as if it happened yesterday.

And I know people might say it was just a dream, but I know what I experienced. To this day, I’ve never forgotten a single moment of it.

Hello everyone, I didn't projected yet, but I think a lot about many spiritual questions.I had a look on gnostic believes, and other believes but I am don't know anything,but since I looked at astral projection, I have hope, please tell me, are we going in the astral realm when we die? Or are we instantly reincarnate and dont have a memory what had happen?or we go back home? Or we meet god?

I work on me that I can hopefully project one day. But I am not on the point where I can find answers, or even the truth,please give me some advice, I would be happy, and thank you for reading.

So for context me and my bestfriend we're very very close since we were 6. His mom used to do those like twin tests on us and we always answered the same. So fast forward we started to train through meditation from about 2014-2016 on how to astral project. With discussions and stuff we learned we could both lucid dream. Like it came naturally since I was young. I can't exactly remember when he said he figured out he could. We accomplished astral projection but its like if we went to far some scary shit would happen and force us back to the threshold I guess you'd say? We ventured out some more but very scary things happened and we quit for a while. It was kinda like insidious but before the movies were even out. For context when we projected we somehow could connect and end up in the same space. Well he died in 2021. We were always skeptical on god but always believed in a creator. We said if one of us died to meet the other in that space to try and talk. I found him after multiple attempts but idk if it was really him. I say that because when I found him screamed at me to run snd stay away. Is this my mental trying to scare me away? I can go into more detail but this was already a lot. Thanks for any words , tips, etc

I know that there's nothing and no one 'real' here at all, it's all fake. and I'm mainly sick of the ghost stories, I don't enjoy this video game world as I used to do, there's nothing that I enjoy interacting with, and I guess acting and pretending can be fun at times, but Idk how much is too much.

I've gotten close to the 'exit' at times, but as soon as I got closer it reminded me that I'm not ready for it at all, I know that this journey is an infinite one, and I guess there's trillions of years to experience still, but I hate not having a way out of this illusion.

I have seen many posts and accounts from people who have experienced astral projection, but they usually come from individuals with a great deal of experience in the subject people who often gloss over the actual process of the soul separating from the body. For this reason, I would like to share the details of my own experience, while emphasizing that I have never been a spiritual person, I do not follow any religion, and I was previously unaware that such a thing even existed though I am currently looking into the topic.

On the afternoon of August 26, 2026, after putting it off for a long time, I decided to go outside and draw from life. It was something I'd wanted to do, but I was always too embarrassed. Since I was in my hometown, I went out into the countryside to draw alone. I found a shady rock where I could sit, and since I only had a mechanical pencil and an eraser, I decided to draw an almond tree. While I was focused on my drawing, I was also aware of my surroundings. There was a group of birds playing amongst themselves in the trees, until suddenly they fell silent and became startled. When I looked up, I saw a peregrine falcon fly overhead. I could see the feathers on its chest and its little legs in detail, it was thrilling for me.

At dusk, I decided to head home; I had dinner with my family and spent some time talking with them that evening. Around 1:00 a.m., I went to sleep. As I drifted off, I first had a dream (the typical, nonsensical kind where nothing remarkable happens) and then, I "woke up" into another dream. In this second dream, I was in my bedroom, lying in bed in the exact same position I was actually in at that moment (on my side, facing to the right). The atmosphere was warm and cozy. In front of me stood a white esparto-grass chair (a real piece of furniture from my room) with a mirror resting on it. Through the mirror, I could see the room around me: I saw myself lying there, facing the mirror, and I also saw my aunt asleep on a mattress on the floor. In the background, my mother was standing and folding sheets, and on the chair, next to the mirror, lay my mobile phone, showing two messages from friends of mine.

I felt very calm and at peace, I was quite comfortable, so I closed my eyes to drift back to sleep. However, I woke up in real life and began to feel a vibration in my head that grew increasingly intense. At the same time, I noticed my body gently rising (I should mention that I was lying on my side, facing to the right). I felt my body lose contact with the mattress and the pillow, and I could feel the bedsheet tightening as I ascended. Behind my back, there was a sense of significant movement in the room, it felt like wind, though it lacked the chill one typically feels from a breeze outdoors. I also heard what sounded like several small bells being shaken vigorously behind me. My body rose to a height of about one meter. At first, I was frightened, thinking it might be sleep paralysis, but I soon realized it wasn't; instead, I felt a surge of excitement at the fact that I was floating. Eventually, in my excitement, I managed to descend gently until I returned to my body. I got out of bed, it wasn't a dream, as I was already fully awake and sat there for a few minutes, trying to process what had just happened. At that moment, I kept thinking of my body as a very fragile shell. Yet, despite how strange the situation was, it didn't feel entirely unsettling, it was as if I had done this many times before; it was something I already knew. It’s very hard to describe—apologies for not being able to explain it better. Since then, I’ve made several attempts at astral projection, though none have gone as far as that first experience. I’ve also begun meditating using the *Gateway Experience* audio tracks, and during these sessions, I’ve been able to visualize images in my mind with great clarity.

I would like to analyze the dream I had that day and try to understand why it happened to me, because ever since then, I have been unable to simply turn my head, walk on by, and carry on with my life. I cannot stop thinking about that day, searching for some kind of answer. (Sorry for my English, I’m from Spain).

Hey everyone, looking for some insights or tips from people who have gotten past this barrier.

Earlier today I woke up in the middle of the night, got up to use the bathroom, and went back to sleep (unintentional WBTB). After having a regular dream, my mind suddenly snapped wide awake and completely alert, but my body stayed frozen in that state where you just don't feel like moving at all.

Almost immediately, the classic vibrational stage kicked in. If you saw my post from a few days ago about that high-pitched tinnitus / ringing sound, it was back full force—it felt like it was everywhere around me and inside my head while this was happening.

Realizing what was going on, I tried to induce the exit:

* Tried the rope technique repeatedly.

* Switched to trying to simply lift/roll my subtle body out.

Nothing happened. I didn't separate. Instead, the physical strain seemed to bleed over—after trying so hard, my breathing became really heavy and vigorous, and my physical body started feeling hot and flushed, almost like I had just gone for a run. Eventually, the state just faded.

For those who have been through this stage:

* How do you overcome the "stuck" feeling? Did I push too hard with active effort instead of letting it happen?

* Breathing/Heart rate spike: How do you keep your physical autonomic response (heavy breathing, heat) from pulling you out when attempting exit techniques?

* What subtle tricks or alternative separation cues worked best for you when the rope or lifting methods stall out?

Any advice would be massively appreciated!

Hi all, hoping for some help please. I’ve learnt about Astral projection/ Reality Shifting for about a year and a half now. Without a full separation so far.

I do appreciate Astral Projection and Reality Shifting are different, I am only mentioning it because I want to AP so I can shift.

I am trying to follow the Michael Raduga method of sleeping for 5-6 hours then waking up for 20 mins. The trouble is, I’m either a super heavy sleeper and miss my alarm or I am a super light sleeper and the minute it goes off I’m wide awake. A bit of insomnia tbh.

I am just wondering what people do to mitigate this? I have tried adjusting the timings so instead of 6hrs, I do it at 3/4/5 hours. And also I tried a cheap smartwatch too to vibrate when the alarm goes off on my wrist. I just haven’t been so successful.

I am just wondering, if anyone has any helpful tips that has helped them, to help me.

I don’t go to the bathroom/ drink water when I wake up, just because then I am too awake. When I do wake up at the alarm mark, I am like “wide awake” so I have been trying to basically not lift my head up to turn the alarm off so I can try and sleep… and I end up just falling asleep. Basically my margin window is incredibly short.

Any tips? Thank you 🙏 ✨

It’s been about 9 years since this happened and I’ll never forget any details of it, it’s always been engrained so vividly in my head. This is the first and only sleep paralysis experience I’ve ever had in my life (32m).

9 years ago I was in my first year of uni in the UK. I was staying in a dorm/halls (in the US it’s dorms in the UK they call it halls) and I was partying quite a bit at the time as you would in your first year of uni. I had a small room to myself with a desk like a meter from my bed and a small en suite bathroom.

Anyways so I start dreaming and I was in some pool complex kinda thing walking around and there was this guy playing pool/billiards, and he say me and I could tell he just didn’t like me, like he gave me a menacing look. And as I was walking around he would be following me like not too close by but following me nonetheless. Couldn’t see his face too well but was like a shadowy black figure.

Next thing I know I’m in my bed in my room and everything is as is, the chair to my desk is pulled out a little with a sock on it, random stuff on the floor like a jacket and my pants, all furniture is literally exactly as is in real life it was literally my room as it was at the time. And the guy is ontop of me screaming at my face super angry, like not saying any words but just doing angry yells and smacking me and I literally can’t move (I am a Muay Thai fighter idk if that influenced anything). And after smacking me a few times and yelling he pulls out a deodorant spray and a lighter and starts spraying fire at my face flamethrower like and at this point I get the feeling “I’m going to freaking die, screw that I’m not gonna let him kill me” and I literally used every fibre of my living power to bust out of that paralysis and reach for his neck with my left hand and my right arm is cocked ready to throw a punch at this dudes face.

Then bam, he just disappears, and I’m in my bed sitting upright with my left hand reaching infront of me (where his neck was supposedly) and my right arm still cocked ready to throw a punch, room is exactly as is.

Never had a sleep paralysis experience after that or saw him again. I like to joke that he visited me once and saw that I’d break out and smack him back and decided “screw this I’m not messing with this dude again” haha

Also I sometimes throw punches and kicks in my sleep, like with good technique I’ll rotate my hips while throwing a Muay Thai kick in my sleep and wake up confused lmao

last night I did an attempt and I figure that if I separate my astral arms first that it’s easier, so I did that last night and about what felt like 20mins later I felt like I was ejected from my body before being quickly reeled back in. It felt weird but it was still super cool.

I saw a post in a group I’m in and this person claims they projected to a data center and there were grays there controlling the ai. They said one of the grays spotted them and they were scared back into their body. I’m just curious if anyone else had seen anything similar? Anyone willing to check out a data center and report back your findings? 😂

So hello everyone.

So i wanted to do AP but idk how to do it and i don't even know the steps to achive AP and i did actually read some tutorials about how to achive AP but that tutorials never worked on me. And i wanted to ask another question, some people say they felt they're soul left they're body and there was a rope attached to they're soul and the body. And they did explore freely and even visited places they never visited in person. And most importantly they explored spaces and they saw some entities idk about entities tho. So my final question is What's the setup and tutorial to achive AP.

Hey, niche subreddit!

I've recently been curious about Astral Projection, I had always been aware of it but I came here to ask some questions.

Regarding the sensory side of APing, what does it feel like?

Is it sort of vague and blurry and up to interpretation, like a lucid dream? Or does it feel "realer than real"

My other question is more simple, what was your first experience like aping? Did you use any methods or did it happen spontaneously

I'm a newbie.. I get the vibrations and stay in the "body rested and my mind awake" situation for a while and it starts to get pitch black and I see some lights. Then it disappears. And when I turned around to change my position, it happened again, but quicker than the first time. The same pitch black scene followed by lights. But this time I heard a husky voice Screaming. I was so scared and my heart was beating so fast. I couldn't open my eyes nor move even an inch of my body. Then I don't remember what happened in between..then I saw myself sitting in my classroom on the same desk I sit. I wore my school uniform and everything was literally the same outfit of how I go to school. But my face and body were replaced with a dark shadow figure, sitting completely still.. I panicked and tried to scream but I couldn't. My mom was sleeping next to me and tried to wake her up, I reached my hand to wake her up and I thought I was waking her up but it was like an illusion! Like something else's arm were replaced and the thing's other arm was like grabbing my right arm. And I somehow managed to wake up.

This was my closest experience to AP I assume.. it was so weird that I couldn't stop thinking about it for a couple of days. I tried to be as calm as possible and tried to keep my heart rate at normal but that scream freaked me out and couldn't focus on keeping myself calm..

Estaba dormida desperté porque mi gatita se movió y dije dormiré de nuevo, me acomodé y todo bien de la nada

No se como estuvo empecé a sentir que mis oídos iban a explotar escuchaba ruidos muy fuerte como si tuviera dos bocinas a mis lado

Empiezo a ver de la nada lo que dicen que son los códigos sagrados, de la nada empiezo a ver círculos pero se movían como cuando hay movimiento de vocina

De la nada sentía que me iba a desmayar, intenté agarrarme de la cama porque por un momento me dio miedo que me pasara otra cosa

Estuve apunto de tener un viaje astral o que fue eso que me pasó??? 😟

so when you pull yourself out of your body, how far can you go? i have heard that there’s an invisible string attached to you and your body.. is there a distance limit?

I have an anxiety disorder so I do meditation during my attempts as I have heard from travellers that calmness in the mind is also crucial as in the body. I can often times find myself falling in & out of the mediative state also due to my overthinking and it can often feel like I'm doing myself a disservice by just having those disorders. What do you think how i should go about it? Also if you're interested in what I do to get myself to AP I'll list it now what I do.

Steps:

1-soldier position, palms turned outwards (apparently it helps with strengtnkng your intention)

2-not move a single inch but keeping my mind awake. Which is fairly easy as my mind is hyperactive.

3-this is where I struggle because anxiety creeps in. My mind wanders off many times unintentionally and starts thinking of things or reliving events that causes nervousness. I get tensed up , still not moving. And it can get uncomfortable due to pressure anxiety creates for my body.

4-i get myself back towards mediative state.

5-tingles, body numbness and this strange feeling of awareness where my eyes are locked into looking at the darkness my eyelids create.

6-feeling of levitating, body twitches & seeing light shapes with my eyes.

7-i get bored and then nervous again then give up because of how long it took & that I'm most probably doing something wrong and am wasting time trying it this way. I'd spend around an hour doing this many times thought the week and idk if I'm doing something wrong, if I need to push through it, or the technique is just not for me. What are your thoughts ?

Title. What experiences did you have that convinced you that AP is not just some clever hallucination made by your brain like science says?

What do you think of materialists that try dismissing any non-physical experience you have just because they think it happened inside your head?

I’ve seen lots of materialists shut down anyone that proposes the idea that consciousness can work independently of the brain pretty harshly, by stating what they said sounds too convenient without evidence.

But my problem is, how are you going to attain evidence for something you don’t believe in if you don’t give it a chance to be understood without the tools we frequently rely on?

The Hard Problem of Consciousness exists for a reason. No one should claim enough certainty to rule things out like that if they have an incomplete understanding of it.

Just curious to know if I could see how I will be doing in like 6 months or a year in future?

I have had a dream so different than anything before I am trying to figure out what the hell happened.
I am not into astral projection but came to the conclusion that its probably that after researching what I have experienced.
I had a dream about the vampire diaries (I havent watched it in a long time) where I was on a mission on some sort with Bonnie I think.
I had two Small Sticks I had to break in order to complete my mission but I was very unsure if it was the right thing to do so I asked bonnie, Then came the scariest shit ive ever seen she looked at me strange said she knew what to do then walked with me somewhere... There was the character Klaus lying down unconcious, she told me I had to lay down I said in my dream hell no and wanted not to do it she said I HAVE TO NOW or I cant and I felt pressured and lied down and I never experience something like that in my entire 21 years it was like I was hallucinating just beam as I lied down I had like multiple waves going through my body almost like a shock I came out of my body and my ears hurt there was a stange noise which was the weirdest then it was extremely loud like my head was about to explode.
I was out of my body for some seconds it didnt feel good I felt like something went terribly wrong. There were shortly multiple copies of people floating around (might have been me Idk) with so many whispers and overlaying sentences of people things I know from irl.
Then woke up in the dream out of body for a milisecond and she said were never speaking about this again and I woke up immediately. My heart was racing and for half an hour I couldnt sleep.

I did some research and found that people who want to master ap experience this but also it lasts longer for them for me some seconds. I dont know if I believe this I found some neruologic explanation that your brain goes into fight or flight mode because your pulse is going too high and trying to pull you out of your dream. what is strange I also read that your body is asleep but your mind is concious idk if I was really consious I just know I felt something is wrong and wanted to wake up towards the end of it… Has anyone experienced something similar, particularly the intense vibrations, loud noises, and brief out-of-body sensation?

hello so much love for you all you’ve helped me in my hardest moments .

I seen some post about how people have involuntarily AP !

mediatate on this quote

the same waters that make mystics surf will drown you .

all the bs you face on the ap realm will involve different reactions but there is always a relaxed version of you towards all problem in AP !

Iv been AP pretty much nightly for a year now this my advice .

The second you AP you are signing up in the fine print for spiritual evolvement on drugs steroids and aggressive spiritual growth .

in the early stages that will manifest as AP involuntary for a while over time as you learn the “program” into your nervous system it will mellow out and you can audibly ask for AP and ask AP to stop at will.

Sometimes guides and friends on the other side don’t have concept of time and work and friendships and they will speak without that concept !!

OVER TIME you can regulate and say not tonight I have a 6 am shift I can’t travel I need to focus at work ! And they will honor that however in the first several months sometimes years no !

but focus on your spiritual evolvement . This is shit
Makes MONKS hide themselves in a forest for years to master or even attempt, your on a Reddit server complaining . Have some reverence to what you just invented into yourself .

However … learn your lessons fully you’ll be gliding on water 🧚🏽‍♀️

Hey, So i have started on this journey. I learnt about all the techniques so started practicing.

Day 1 : nothing happened

Day 2: I tried around 4 Am after waking up. Nothing happened for around 10min, then I was feeling sleepy but kept telling myself to be awake, i immediately went to my old home where I grew up. I flew over it for some time but somehow I was afraid to go beyond my house, suddenly I heard my wife voice calling me, i immediately woke up and found my wife was sleeping peacefully. I don't know whose voice it was then ?

Day 3, 4 : nothing happened, i simply went to direct sleep even after I tried waking up around 3 Am.

Day 5: Today I prayed to God and my guardian angels to help me AP before I slept like a small affirmation. Around 3 AM I woke up and thought of trying again, but after about 15-20 min I gave up and went to sleep. I don't know how long, I heard the voice of a small girl " wake up, look at the room". My initial thought was it was my daughter's voice, i woke up but soon realized it wasn't my daughter's voice, it sounded a voice with the excitement of a 3-4 year old. Suddenly I found something is getting up from my belly. It went up probably 5-6 inches and the went back. It happened 2-3 times. I tried the roll-on technique and rope techniques but to no avail. After a few minutes my body also got awake. Note that I didn't feel any vibrations at all.

I think I am close but let's see how it goes. Although I don't feel any vibrations like most of the people. I am also not sure what those voices are.