r/Albertapolitics • • 17h ago

Opinion Albertans aren't separatists, they are just racists 🙄, as the government destroys the social structures blaming the people they invited to lower labour costs.

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I'm an Albertan that is happy the separation vote was a clear no, but i don't thing that will stop the sepratists that have working on it for years.

What i am worried about is the 9 question that will give the government a perception of a mandate to continue to waste money restricting access to government services that people pay taxes for, rather than putting those funds towards the services.

If the separatists want to continue then the can form a political party and see how well they are recognized.


r/Albertapolitics • • 15h ago

Opinion what the hell everyone?

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what happened to “no to the nine?” why are we still falling for the racist ucp propaganda?


r/Albertapolitics • • 21h ago

Opinion Given up on Alberta

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I know this will be deleted by the mods, but I’m going to say it anyway.
i have lost any faith i had in Alberta and its citizens. They said that they hate Danielle Smith but all voted to give her MORE power!

the lowest bar was voting to stay in Canada and I’m truly shocked that Alberta said yes, but then they said yes to everything else.


r/Albertapolitics • • 22h ago

Opinion Will Pro-Separatists Admit Defeat?

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By now 8am Oct 20 we now have the polling showing about an 75%-80% of people voting to remain across the province.

Will the 25% who voted to leave see this quasi-vote to stay or leave as a defeat?

Personally I’m worried they’ll see it as a challenge that they need to do better convincing the public rather than acknowledge the people of the province want to stay.


r/Albertapolitics • • 21h ago

Opinion UCP Party is still controlled by the Separatists - now what?

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An estimated approx 70% of UCP party members admit to being separatist and they will continue to push their separatist agenda, despite the Stay in Canada win. Separatist have infiltrated the dominant political party in Alberta. What can be done to get them out of the UCP? They should form their own party with a stated party platform of separation but the fear is that splits the conservative vote.


r/Albertapolitics • • 8h ago

Article Update: The referendum count, in people (unofficial, partial)

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Update: The referendum count, in people

A factual account, sourced throughout. Corrections welcome.

These are unofficial, partial counts from Elections Alberta as reported on Tuesday, October 20 [946pm]. Counting was still under way, and the nine questions are counted after Question 10, one at a time, so they are less complete: roughly 45% of the votes on Questions 6 to 9 may still be to come, going by the 2.4 million ballots expected. Official results are due October 29. Figures are shown as votes, with the percentage in brackets.

The count in three lines

  • A decisive vote to stay in Canada. About 1.47 million to 487,000, a gap of nearly 988,000, equal to about 31% of all eligible voters.
  • A modest majority on immigration. Between 53% and 63% yes on the five immigration questions, with 515,000 to 849,000 people voting no on each.
  • A near split on the Constitution. Questions 6, 8 and 9 are within about 3% of the votes counted, and Question 7 within about 6%. Question 8 is behind.

Question 10: remain or begin the separation process

  • Remain: 1,474,344 (75.2%)
  • Begin the process toward a binding separation referendum: 486,632 (24.8%)
  • Gap: 987,712

Final-week polls had Remain at 66% to 76% among decided voters. The count is at the upper end of that range.

The other nine, yes and no

Yes No Gap
992,425 (53.9%) 849,041 (46.1%) +143,384
910,277 (53.3%) 796,630 (46.7%) +113,647
872,640 (56.1%) 681,495 (43.9%) +191,145
807,530 (56.4%) 624,107 (43.6%) +183,423
883,274 (63.2%) 515,304 (36.8%) +367,970
690,821 (50.9%) 665,502 (49.1%) +25,319
705,664 (53.2%) 621,788 (46.8%) +83,876
645,689 (49.1%) 669,144 (50.9%) No ahead by 23,455
665,243 (51.4%) 630,226 (48.6%) +35,017

What the counts show

  • Eight of the nine have a majority so far, and one, Question 8, does not.
  • More than 515,000 voters said no on every one of the nine, and nearly 850,000 on the first.
  • Some of the nine are stronger than others, but the gaps are not large when measured against the votes. Set against the votes counted, they are 7% to 26% on the immigration questions and 2% to 6% on the constitutional ones. Against all eligible voters, they are 4% to 12% and under 3%, compared with 31% for Question 10. Even the largest, Question 5 at +367,970, is about 37% of Question 10's gap.
  • Questions 6, 8 and 9 are separated by 35,000 votes or fewer each, about 1% of eligible voters or less.
  • Geographically, Edmonton voted no on all nine and Calgary no on eight, all but Question 5 (Global News).

What Smith said on Tuesday night

In a 14-minute pre-recorded address, broadcast on airtime paid for by the government, Smith said "the resulting vote from Albertans has given our government a clear mandate. Alberta will remain a province of Canada. Albertans will continue to be Canadians." She said that as long as she is premier she will not hold another referendum on separation, that separation will not be used as a tool to fight Ottawa, and that "our government will continue to boldly assert our province's autonomy by exercising the provincial rights guaranteed to us under Canada's Constitution," with disputes settled "within the political and legal institutions of our nation." She told Option 2 voters "I recognize you as loyal Albertans."

The reported speech did not mention the nine questions or say what a strong mandate on them would be. She is to take questions at 11:30 a.m. on Wednesday.

Before the vote she asked for "a strong mandate" on the nine (October 15) and said 50% plus one is what you would normally use. In April she said she had done an "initial culling of the questions to make sure that we found the ones that are likely to get majority support, but I'm asking them so that I can get a mandate. And if I don't get a mandate, then we'll have to address what we do at that time."

How people have reacted

  • Colin Aitchison, a former UCP press secretary: "Regardless of the size of the mandate, it is a clear mandate."
  • Naheed Nenshi, NDP leader: "If she wanted a mandate, she should have been able to get 85 per cent on questions like this, and she was unable to carry the day." He also said the government spent $4 million telling people to say yes.
  • Melanee Thomas, a University of Calgary political scientist: the nine "do not provide a mandate for much of anything except to give Danielle Smith a bit of breathing space" with her party's internal factions.
  • Andrew Knack and Jeromy Farkas, the mayors of Edmonton and Calgary: Knack called for the immigration questions to be dropped, saying "I don't want our neighbours to feel like they're not welcome in our city," and Farkas said he was proud to see a majority in his city reject them.
  • Avnish Nanda, a lawyer who campaigned against the immigration questions: "We thought we would be blown out," and he said confusion over the wording may have affected the result.
  • Pierre Poilievre supports Smith's immigration asks and provinces setting their own levels. Mark Carney called the result "a great result for Canada" and said Ottawa will work with the provinces on immigration levels.
  • Jeffrey Rath, a separatist leader, said he will push for a special general meeting to remove Smith.

My view, based on the above

This section is my opinion. Each point rests on a fact stated earlier in this post or in the series.

On the result. Eight of the nine questions have a majority so far, and I accept that this is how democracy works. A majority is a majority.

On the size of it. When I read the counts and not only the percentages, more than 515,000 people voted no on every one of the nine, and nearly 850,000 on the first. On the Constitution, the two sides are separated by under 85,000 votes on Question 7 and by 35,000 or fewer on Questions 6, 8 and 9. Some questions are stronger than others, but measured against the votes the gaps are not large. To me that is not the "strong mandate" that was asked for, and Question 10's gap of nearly 988,000 shows what a decisive result looks like.

On what the mandate is for. I can see that the direction is clear, and a mandate has to be a mandate for something. The nine mostly asked for backing to work toward something, such as more control or a constitutional change, and none said what the rules, the fees or the timeline would be. Smith has said she needs a yes to bargain with the Prime Minister, who says Ottawa is already working on immigration levels and that constitutional change is slow and difficult. So I read it as clear on direction, thin on content, and modest in size.

On the call for unity. In her address Smith said, "Let us move forward not as a people divided by how we voted yesterday, but as neighbours, friends, Albertans and Canadians. Let us treat one another with respect and compassion." Edmonton voted no on all nine questions and Calgary on eight, and a quarter of voters chose Option 2. She called for unity. What she does with the nine will show what that means.

On how the ballot was built. By her own account, the government kept the questions "likely to get majority support." I read that as a reason to treat a yes as a weaker test of what Albertans want than an open question would have been.

On the people behind the wording. The questions bundled different ideas, and a key term, "Alberta-approved immigration status," was left undefined until after the vote. I can see the case for a reasonable waiting period before some benefits, and a ballot with one box per question could not separate that from the rest. I came to Canada from England and chose to become a Canadian, so I take seriously that people can be affected by how these words are later written. I don't think the result should be read as a verdict on all of it at once.

Where I could be wrong. The counts are partial, none of the nine is binding, and I cannot tell from a ballot why anyone voted as they did. A mandate does not need to be large to be legitimate, as Aitchison says, and the government may yet define what it is for. If the final numbers or the government's drafting differ from what I have read here, I will say so.

Limits

  • All counts are unofficial and partial and will change. The votes on the nine are less complete than on Question 10, so the close ones, especially 6, 8 and 9, are not settled.
  • None of the nine is binding. Analysts said the constitutional questions would need other provinces and Ottawa.
  • Votes are not the same as voters. People could decline individual ballots.

Sources: Elections Alberta unofficial results as reported by CBC, CTV, Global News and Canadian Press; Smith's address of October 20 and statements of October 15 and April 2026; CBC News analysis of October 14.


r/Albertapolitics • • 18h ago

Opinion So, I guess the new Leader of the devolved UCP will be either Jason Nixon or Todd Loewen.

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Electoral Division Locations Reporting Total Voting Areas Option 1 # Option 1 % Option 2 # Option 2 % Total
35 - Edmonton-Manning 1 59 2% 4,991 92% 416 8%
39 - Edmonton-North West 25 68 37% 7,070 91% 674 9%
44 - Edmonton-Strathcona 50 50 100% 19,274 90% 2,058 10%
17 - Calgary-Bhullar-McCall 39 39 100% 11,567 89% 1,389 11%
29 - Edmonton-City Centre 69 79 87% 17,205 89% 2,135 11%
40 - Edmonton-Riverview 51 53 96% 19,934 88% 2,648 12%
18 - Calgary-Mountain View 85 90 94% 24,827 88% 3,338 12%
25 - Calgary-Varsity 4 51 8% 17,880 88% 2,408 12%
32 - Edmonton-Glenora 52 52 100% 18,848 88% 2,624 12%
41 - Edmonton-Rutherford 50 50 100% 19,230 87% 2,762 13%
46 - Edmonton-Whitemud 51 51 100% 20,790 87% 3,080 13%
33 - Edmonton-Gold Bar 58 58 100% 20,850 87% 3,245 13%
36 - Edmonton-McClung 42 51 82% 10,650 86% 1,686 14%
34 - Edmonton-Highlands-Norwood 45 49 92% 14,061 86% 2,273 14%
28 - Edmonton-Castle Downs 16 69 23% 13,762 86% 2,236 14%
08 - Calgary-Edgemont 53 57 93% 12,007 86% 2,005 14%
37 - Edmonton-Meadows 55 61 90% 17,238 86% 2,884 14%
04 - Calgary-Buffalo 78 78 100% 20,857 85% 3,542 15%
20 - Calgary-North East 62 65 95% 21,265 85% 3,619 15%
10 - Calgary-Falconridge 51 51 100% 12,833 85% 2,186 15%
09 - Calgary-Elbow 58 60 97% 22,880 85% 3,955 15%
12 - Calgary-Foothills 9 62 15% 16,607 85% 2,891 15%
31 - Edmonton-Ellerslie 28 52 54% 14,835 85% 2,689 15%
42 - Edmonton-South 86 88 98% 26,645 85% 4,863 15%
06 - Calgary-Currie 56 58 97% 20,661 85% 3,789 15%
43 - Edmonton-South West 48 76 63% 21,657 84% 3,979 16%
05 - Calgary-Cross 47 48 98% 12,949 84% 2,389 16%
19 - Calgary-North 41 52 79% 15,804 84% 2,939 16%
27 - Edmonton-Beverly-Clareview 11 49 22% 9,752 84% 1,815 16%
30 - Edmonton-Decore 40 56 71% 10,644 84% 1,986 16%
01 - Calgary-Acadia 3 57 5% 14,992 84% 2,800 16%
02 - Calgary-Beddington 29 53 55% 14,244 84% 2,766 16%
83 - St. Albert 59 60 98% 24,990 83% 5,051 17%
38 - Edmonton-Mill Woods 53 53 100% 16,882 83% 3,455 17%
13 - Calgary-Glenmore 59 59 100% 22,046 82% 4,719 18%
45 - Edmonton-West Henday 54 59 92% 20,742 82% 4,465 18%
15 - Calgary-Klein 53 53 100% 18,451 82% 3,987 18%
21 - Calgary-North West 58 58 100% 21,943 82% 4,791 18%
50 - Banff-Kananaskis 49 64 77% 20,236 82% 4,516 18%
26 - Calgary-West 54 54 100% 20,606 82% 4,644 18%
72 - Lethbridge-West 67 67 100% 21,478 81% 4,889 19%
03 - Calgary-Bow 69 69 100% 23,648 81% 5,385 19%
81 - Sherwood Park 61 61 100% 24,272 81% 5,767 19%
11 - Calgary-Fish Creek 58 59 98% 21,366 80% 5,344 20%
71 - Lethbridge-East 67 69 97% 19,745 80% 4,939 20%
07 - Calgary-East 55 74 74% 11,502 80% 2,886 20%
23 - Calgary-Shaw 34 71 48% 19,402 80% 4,976 20%
22 - Calgary-Peigan 52 52 100% 18,825 79% 4,908 21%
16 - Calgary-Lougheed 45 45 100% 16,585 79% 4,453 21%
14 - Calgary-Hays 58 58 100% 19,741 78% 5,589 22%
24 - Calgary-South East 76 76 100% 24,591 77% 7,450 23%
75 - Morinville-St. Albert 53 64 83% 21,110 75% 6,891 25%
84 - Strathcona-Sherwood Park 63 63 100% 21,849 74% 7,761 26%
82 - Spruce Grove-Stony Plain 54 67 81% 19,890 73% 7,231 27%
69 - Leduc-Beaumont 65 68 96% 19,502 72% 7,729 28%
47 - Airdrie-Cochrane 92 92 100% 29,683 71% 11,925 29%
48 - Airdrie-East 73 73 100% 21,281 71% 8,888 29%
79 - Red Deer-South 58 73 79% 18,224 70% 7,644 30%
78 - Red Deer-North 64 64 100% 14,927 70% 6,461 30%
56 - Chestermere-Strathmore 68 71 96% 19,573 69% 8,628 31%
70 - Lesser Slave Lake 30 48 63% 4,366 69% 1,978 31%
57 - Cypress-Medicine Hat 59 59 100% 16,916 68% 7,906 32%
62 - Fort Saskatchewan-Vegreville 61 82 74% 17,057 67% 8,516 33%
74 - Maskwacis-Wetaskiwin 47 57 82% 13,576 67% 6,831 33%
65 - Highwood 112 112 100% 20,155 66% 10,556 34%
61 - Fort McMurray-Wood Buffalo 7 40 18% 6,142 64% 3,447 36%
53 - Camrose 64 70 91% 14,636 64% 8,247 36%
60 - Fort McMurray-Lac La Biche 18 63 29% 5,053 63% 2,910 37%
51 - Bonnyville-Cold Lake-St. Paul 35 74 47% 6,569 63% 3,816 37%
52 - Brooks-Medicine Hat 70 73 96% 13,767 63% 8,057 37%
63 - Grande Prairie 44 52 85% 11,512 63% 6,893 37%
73 - Livingstone-Macleod 92 94 98% 17,096 61% 10,787 39%
86 - Vermilion-Lloydminster-Wainwright 55 66 83% 10,790 61% 7,011 39%
87 - West Yellowhead 64 74 86% 13,349 60% 8,924 40%
66 - Innisfail-Sylvan Lake 67 73 92% 11,129 59% 7,768 41%
67 - Lac Ste. Anne-Parkland 73 75 97% 14,854 59% 10,476 41%
49 - Athabasca-Barrhead-Westlock 62 62 100% 13,685 59% 9,666 41%
64 - Grande Prairie-Wapiti 37 81 46% 4,928 58% 3,576 42%
68 - Lacombe-Ponoka 71 72 99% 14,148 58% 10,425 42%
77 - Peace River 66 69 96% 8,297 57% 6,201 43%
54 - Cardston-Siksika 59 74 80% 8,855 56% 7,023 44%
76 - Olds-Didsbury-Three Hills 71 71 100% 15,215 55% 12,302 45%
58 - Drayton Valley-Devon 68 68 100% 14,052 55% 11,658 45%
85 - Taber-Warner 64 70 91% 9,785 54% 8,490 46%
59 - Drumheller-Stettler 56 71 79% 9,081 52% 8,400 48%
80 - Rimbey-Rocky Mountain House-Sundre 79 85 93% 12,005 50% 12,203 50%
55 - Central Peace-Notley 54 60 90% 5,068 49% 5,275 51%
Total 4649 5583 83% 1,411,985 75% 458,783 25%

r/Albertapolitics • • 22h ago

Article Alberta delivers decisive vote to stay in Canada - POLITICO

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r/Albertapolitics • • 12h ago

News Albertans want more control over immigration and limits on newcomers' access to social services

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r/Albertapolitics • • 17h ago

Image/Meme 9 questions unofficial results

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r/Albertapolitics • • 9h ago

Article TIL some US States have higher levels of secessionism that Alberta

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r/Albertapolitics • • 1h ago

Article Alberta's Smith makes it clear separation now dead issue as long as she is premier

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r/Albertapolitics • • 19h ago

Image/Meme As the results of the other nine questions roll in....

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r/Albertapolitics • • 19h ago

Social Media Goodbye Cowgirl

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Blog post by Garth Turner, former MP about Referendum and Smith

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r/Albertapolitics • • 1h ago

Image/Meme Breaking News

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r/Albertapolitics • • 7h ago

Social Media Did Smith buy Wexit?

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r/Albertapolitics • • 14h ago

News Urban vs. Rural districts by rank: Urban vs. Rural on Q1

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r/Albertapolitics • • 16h ago

Article The Albertan separatism movement has no clear end goal argues political commentator at VIU

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r/Albertapolitics • • 19h ago

News Referendum shout out to Lethbridge

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r/Albertapolitics • • 7h ago

Opinion Alberta Referendum with Berta Proud Dad | Talk 2 Ajax Episode 11018 1

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r/Albertapolitics • • 17h ago

Opinion I have a question for the separatists and conservatives

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A serious question for you. What would it take for you to NOT vote UCP, leaving outright separation off the table?


r/Albertapolitics • • 19h ago

Opinion Future of UCP in Alberta

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It will be interesting to see what happens at the UCP AGM in late November. They are truly between a rock and a hard place which is a good thing.

If they decide to oust Smith in favour of a strong separatist voice they will have no chance of winning a majority in the next provincial election.

If they choose to keep Smith in they will have to abandon outright separation as a policy and fall in behind her Sovereign Alberta within a united Canada idea.

Regardless I expect that there will be some members move from the UCP to Guthrie’s Alberta Progressive Tory party over the next year or so.

A real possibility that we will see a minority government, either NDP or UCP (likely the former) and Guthrie holding the hammer


r/Albertapolitics • • 19h ago

Opinion Did Manning, Flanagan and Harper, plant the seed for Alberta Separation?

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If so how?


r/Albertapolitics • • 16h ago

Opinion We lost.

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r/Albertapolitics • • 13h ago

Article Alberta Defeats Trump and Washington DC

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Albertans just slammed a door that Washington tried to pry open.

Unofficial results show about 76 per cent voted to stay in Canada. About 24 per cent backed a path toward separation. Official results come October 29.

Look at who leaned on the scale. Separatist leaders met State Department officials three times. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent called Alberta a natural partner for the United States. Elon Musk told Alberta to leave. The Globe and Mail reported that Republican operatives helped separatist leaders.

Washington calls the meetings routine. Separatists talked openly about a $500 billion American credit line. That is not routine. That is a bid.

It failed. But a quarter of Alberta said yes, and the movement already plots to unseat Premier Smith. Stay awake.

The timing is everything. Canada held together weeks before the American midterms. Democrats lead the generic ballot by about nine points. Prediction markets put a Democratic House above 90 per cent and the Senate near 63 per cent. A president who loses Congress does not go quietly. Expect a fight over the count, over the seating of Congress on January 3, and over the courts.

Canada just avoided facing that storm with a crack in its own house.

It is also a steadier partner for Europe today. Canada has preferential access to the EU defence fund known as SAFE, the only country outside Europe that does. It runs its largest overseas mission in Latvia. It is now one of three framework nations for NATO's northern division. Europe needs allies that do not break. Canada did not.

Europe needs them now. Russia is probing Article 5 every month.

In September 2025, 21 Russian drones crossed into Poland and shut airports. Poland invoked Article 4. Days later, three Russian jets flew inside Estonian airspace for 12 minutes. A Russian drone sat in Romanian airspace for about four hours. This past July, a Russian cruise missile crashed in Poland's Lublin province.

In September, the Institute for the Study of War warned that Russia could seize a sliver of Estonia near Narva and dare NATO to take it back. The goal is hesitation. If allies hesitate, the alliance cracks without a full war. Western intelligence has flagged possible action against Poland or the Baltics built for exactly that.

The timelines are close. Poland's prime minister warns of conflict by 2027. Germany's defence minister says 2029. NATO's secretary general says within five years. My verdict: Poland or the Baltics get tested first. Small. Deniable. Timed while Washington is distracted.

Meanwhile the Gulf burns. The Iran war began February 28. Israel and Hezbollah have fought in Lebanon since March 2. The Houthis hit Saudi airports and energy sites almost daily. The West Bank, Syria and Iraq sit between armed camps.

Now the circle widens. Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and Turkey signed a mutual defence pact in August. Pakistan's defence minister says his country will use whatever means are available to defend the kingdom. France is sending troops and air defences. Pakistan has nuclear weapons. Turkey is in NATO. Read that twice.

How does it end? Analysts expect Ukraine to grind on as a stalemate through 2027, and NATO believes Russia can fund it that long. The Gulf gets a patched truce that keeps breaking, because Iran ties peace to Lebanon and Israel refuses. Neither front ends cleanly. They merge.

Here is how World War 3 forms. Russia pushes the edge of NATO. Iran's allies squeeze the Gulf. Pakistan, Turkey and France get pulled in. Oil spikes. Shipping lanes close. Europe begs Washington for help and finds a country consumed by its own election crisis. Two blocs harden. Russia and its partners against Europe, Canada, Britain and every loyal NATO ally.

If America cracks after January 3, with a contested seating and unrest in the streets, its allies stand alone. Other Western democracies with deep divides will feel the same pull.

Workers pay first. Fuel. Food. Rent. Then the sons and daughters. A country that asks everyone to carry more owes everyone fair pay, strong unions and a real say.

That is why Alberta mattered. A united Canada ships energy, food, minerals and troops to Europe. A broken one ships nothing.

Keep Canada whole. Fund the alliance. Protect the workers who will carry the load. Watch January 3. Do not look away.

GC

Sources: The Globe and Mail; CNN; Institute for the Study of War; Associated Press; Silver Bulletin; CBC News: The National; Global TV, The Vancouver Sun, CTV News, Keep Alberta Rolling