r/Wildfire • • Apr 25 '21

Should you die on the job

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Hey guys, have one of those uncomfortable type of questions. It’s been a while since I’ve filled out a beneficiary form and now that I have a kid coming into the world, it’s time to change my death wishes. A google search provided me the recognition of the Beneficiary Form for unpaid benefits (SF 1152), in which you designate a percentage of your unpaid benefits to your loved ones/“beneficiaries”. Now here’s my questions:

1) How much will a beneficiary actually receive if allotted say 100% of my unpaid benefits? What and how much $ are my unpaid benefits?

2) I remember at some point, writing down a description of how I would like my funeral procession to proceed, and filling that out along with the aforementioned form, but I can’t find that one. Anybody recollect the name of that form or have a form # they can provide me?

Thanks everybody


r/Wildfire • • Apr 27 '22

**How to Get a Job as a Wildland Firefighter*

470 Upvotes

How to apply for a Fed Job (USFS, BLM, BIA, FWS) - Revised 07/29/2023

  • Apply to jobs in Sept.-Feb. on https://www.usajobs.gov . Search for things such as “forestry aid, fire, and 0462.”
    • Use filters in the sidebar, set grade to "GS3 and GS4". Under the "more filters" tab you can toggle "Seasonal, Summer, Temporary, and Full Time"
    • Be sure to read each job description to make sure it is for fire. There are other jobs that fall under "Forestry Aide/ Tech." that do not involve wildland fire.
    • Applications for Federal Jobs are only accepted during a narrow (2 week long) window nowadays. You can find out when this window is by calling prospective employers or checking USAJobs weekly.
  • Build a profile on USAjobs and create a resume. Kind of a pain in the ass, but it's just a hurdle to screen out the unmotivated. Just sit down and do it.
    • In your resume, be sure to include hours worked and contact info for references along with permission to contact said references.
  • Call around to various districts/forests/parks you're interested in working for. Do this between early October and February. The earlier in that time period, the better.
    • Hiring officials keep track of who called, when, and how good they sounded. Just call the front desk and ask for whoever does the hiring for "fire."
    • Have a few lines rehearsed about why you want the job and why you're worth hiring. Leave a voicemail if the person is out of the office. Ask questions about what firefighting resources they have (handcrew, engine, lookouts, helicopter, etc, basically what job they can even offer you), when to apply, how to apply, IF they are even hiring...
  • You can leave a message and Fire Managers will usually call you back. Applying online is basically only a formality. Talking to or physically visiting potential employers is the only way to go. People drive out from NY and Maine to talk to crew bosses out West all the time and are usually rewarded with a job for doing so.
  • Have a resume ready to email or hand-in, and offer to do so.
  • It helps to keep a spreadsheet or some notes of all the places you've called, who you talked to, what firefighting resources they have, the deadline for hiring, and generally how the convo went.
  • Apply to 15+ positions. It's hard to get your foot in the door, but totally do-able.
  • If they sound excited and interested in YOU, then you'll probably get an offer if all your paperwork goes through.
  • Unlike the many lines of work, Wildland Firefighting resumes can be 10+ pages long. The longer and more detailed the better. List the sports you've played, whether you hunt or workout, and go into detail about your middle school lawn mowing business - seriously. You are applying to a manual labor job, emphasizing relevant experience.
  • Also have a short resume for emailing. Don't email your ungodly long USAjobs resume.
  • You wont get an offer if you haven't talked to anyone.
    • If you do get an offer from someone you haven't talked to, its usually a red-flag (hard to fill location for a reason). Ex. Winnemucca, NV
  • Start working out. Expect high school sports levels of group working out starting the 1st day of work (running a few miles, push ups, pull ups, crunches, etc).
  • The pack test, the 3miles w/ 45lbs in 45 mins, is a joke. Don't worry about that, only horrifically out of shape people fail it.

- Alternatives to Fed Jobs - Revised 07/29/2023

  • There are also contractors, such as Greyback and Pat-Rick, mostly based in Oregon, with secondary bases around the west. Not as good of a deal, because it's usually on-call work, the pay is lower, and it's a tougher crowd, but a perfectly fine entry-level position. If you can hack it with them, you can do the job just fine.
  • Also look into various state dept. of natural resources/forestry. Anywhere there are wildfires, the state and counties have firefighter jobs, not as many as the Feds, but definitely some jobs. I just don't know much about those.
  • You could also just go to jail in California and get on a convict crew...
  • I wouldn't bother applying to easy-to-Google programs (e.g. Great Northern or North Star crews in MT and AK respectively), as the competition for the 1/2 dozen entry-level jobs is way too intense. A remote district in a po-dunk town is your best bet for getting your foot in the door if you're applying remotely. I started in such a place in the desert of southern Idaho and then moved onto a much nicer setting, up in Montana.
  • Also look into the Nature Conservancy, they have fire crews, as do the California/Montana/Arizona/Minnesota Conservation Corps, and the various USDL Job Corps programs that are run by the Forest Service.

- QUALIFICATIONS NEEDED

Surprisingly few.

  • 18+ years old
  • GED or high school grad
  • relatively clean criminal record (you can have a felony/DUI, etc).
  • A driver's license is required by the Feds, even if you have a DUI, you still need a valid DL
  • A pre-work drug screening is a possibility. The Department of Interior (Park Service & BLM) always drug tests. The Forest Service usually doesn't, but certainly can. Wildland Firefighters are a conservative bunch and open drug use is generally not tolerated. It's a good idea to be able to piss clean and not talk about past drug use.
  • A degree helps, but is by no means necessary.
  • You do have to have some sort of desirable skill or quality though. I mean, if you're just uneducated, unskilled, and out of shape, it's not gonna work out for you even if you do get hired. An EMT certification, even w/o experience, is probably the best "sure bet" for getting a job as a wildland firefighter, but landscaping/manual labor experience, military time, some education, even just being in really good shape and/or having a lot of sports team experience are all good enough

- FAQs

For federal jobs**, if you haven't applied by the end of February, you are probably too late, sometimes there are late postings, but your chances greatly decrease at finding a job.**

  • Hotshot crews and smokejumping are not for rookies. Don't waste their time or your breath by calling
  • .You CAN apply if you have ZERO EXPERIENCE and still have a decent chance at getting a job
  • You DO NOT need EMT, while it is somewhat beneficial, it is by no means needed to get your first fire job
  • Calfire does not hire people with zero experience and zero qualifications.

/TLDR

  • Apply to jobs in Sept-Feb on https://www.usajobs.gov . Search for things such as “forestry aid, fire, and 0462.”
  • Make long resume
  • Apply to multiple locations
  • Call the locations
  • Get in better shape

Thanks to u/RogerfuRabit for the previous post on how to get a job in WF.


r/Wildfire • • 5h ago

Deputy IC here to tell you about something not related to fire that happened in 1978

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r/Wildfire • • 15h ago

Another Line of Duty Death

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347 Upvotes

It been so many this year. Stay safe


r/Wildfire • • 19m ago

What do I put for these categories

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Im new to wildland and im not affiliated with any department nor agency but im wanting to get some courses done hopefully to get on this upcoming fire season or the next one but i dont know what to put


r/Wildfire • • 15h ago

News (General) How's everyone's night going?

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r/Wildfire • • 9h ago

Winema, Prineville, Redmond and LaGrande/union hotshots

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What’s everyone personal opinion? I’m interested in potentially working on one of these crews. I’ve been wanting to move to r6. Spent plenty of time on a shot crew in R3


r/Wildfire • • 14h ago

FFT2 openings for state crews?

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Coming in as a rookie and applying for a lot of fed openings, but curious about timelines for different states both in the east and west. I check a few of my top choices (WA, OR, SD, NC, etc) regularly but have a hard time finding hard answers as to the hiring schedules.

If you are on a state crew (literally any state) can you comment when your particular state will be dropping applications? I'm hoping to make a list with timelines and would be glad to share it with this sub. Thanks in advance.


r/Wildfire • • 22h ago

Haven't been "bit by the firebug"

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About to finish my 3rd season and I don't think the proverbial fire bug has truly bitten me. Maybe it's being in the wrong place with the wrong people, but I don't feel I have the drive and ambition as the others around me, or the required gumption that drives individuals to higher positions. I get stressed out easily, overwhelmed by high stake tasks, and can't imagine myself in a leadership role despite being encouraged to do so.

I really like working outside, cutting, and laboring but the added pressure of fatal mistakes or accidents really paralyzes me. I just want to be told what to do and do it to the best of my abilities. I'm wondering what I should do next- I've thought about trying to go Timber or even finding a trails job. Being apart of militia seems fine because it's not all fire all the time. Unfortunately, my district doesn't have a trails department any longer so I'd have to look elsewhere. I might even look into arborist work but idk. I'm older in my 30s and kind of feel like a flounderer.


r/Wildfire • • 18h ago

Norte Fire

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As seen from Dana Point


r/Wildfire • • 10h ago

Applying to every perm position in Cali

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Just as the title states I went ahead and applied to every perm position in Cali in hopes of getting on somewhere. This will be my 3rd season. I just opened up my FFT1 and received my Faller 3. I also have my NREMT.

Where do you guys think Ill get picked up?


r/Wildfire • • 14h ago

Question Lewiston, Idaho area?

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Good evening! I’m a 26M, as entry-level as it comes, currently living in SoCal but my wife and I have been planning to move to northern Idaho for years now. I’ve found multiple offices/ranger stations in the vicinity of Lewiston Idaho but unsure if I should call or email? I’ve applied to virtually every USAJOBS app since early July to now. But I feel like I could maybe do more by calling or shooting a message to someone more personally. Does anyone have any information on the area or any ideas? Thanks so much.


r/Wildfire • • 1d ago

Dank Meme I’m going to miss those guys, gals and the ones in between.

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r/Wildfire • • 20h ago

Timeframe?

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Applications just closed for a few different jobs I applied for, typically how long does it take to hear back if I’ve been referred or not?


r/Wildfire • • 10h ago

My Firetruck turns on a dime

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r/Wildfire • • 12h ago

We're building a wildfire tracking tool and exploring ways to detect fires earlier. Would love your thoughts.

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r/Wildfire • • 1d ago

Perm after one year

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is it probable to get a perm position if I have done one year on one forest, and am looking to get a perm on another?


r/Wildfire • • 1d ago

Question What certifications besides the S-130, S-190,and L-180 would you recommend someone get to help make their resume look better if they have no experience working as a wildland fire fighter?

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I'm 25 and an EMT Basic, but would like to work as a wildland firefighter next summer. And was wondering what certifications besides the S-130( online portion)S-190, and L-180 would you recommend I get in order to help improve my chances of actually landing a job and to help me stand out a bit since i have no fire fighting experience. I do have a 1 year and 3 months of experience working for a private ambulance company that does private, 911 and NICU runs. The certifications I currently have besides the three listed in the title are the state of Rhode Island Emergency Medical Technician License, NREMT Certification, BLS Provider Certification, IS-700B NIMS : An introduction, IS-100.C Intro to Incident command System, IS-200.D Basic Incident Command System for Initial Response, IS-5.A Intro to Hazardous Materials, WMD/Terrorism Awareness for first responders, IS-800.D National Response Frame Work and Mental health First Aid.


r/Wildfire • • 12h ago

We're building a wildfire tracking tool and exploring ways to detect fires earlier. Would love your thoughts.

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Hey everyone!

I'm part of OC Civic Coders, a volunteer group in Southern California. We've been pretty passionate about wildfire detection and prevention, and honestly, a little frustrated with how scattered all the information is.

So we built FireWatch, a free tool that brings together satellite detections, weather, fire activity, and other data in one place.

We've also been nerding out in our Model Lab, experimenting with ways to spot potential fires earlier using satellite data. We're seeing some interesting results, but there's still a ton to learn.

Ultimately, we'd love to figure out how we can detect fires sooner, understand what's happening, and maybe even help stop small fires before they spread.

We're not experts in everything, just a group of people passionate about figuring this out together.

Would love to hear your thoughts, ideas, or criticism.

https://firewatch.occiviccoders.com/

🔥 FireWatch Model Lab: https://firewatch.occiviccoders.com/lab


r/Wildfire • • 1d ago

A small game inspired by firefighting aircraft

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I’m the developer of Super Scooper, an upcoming iOS game inspired by water-bombing aircraft. I’ve put a lot of care into it and thought the trailer might interest some of you here


r/Wildfire • • 1d ago

Can I reapply with another set of locations?

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r/Wildfire • • 1d ago

How do I get an actual drug test on a whole crew?

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How do I actually call in a drug test on a whole crew, and have it be an actual this is not a drill test? Like without the Forest Service quietly letting the crew know it’s going to happen like they usually do? I want these people to actually go down, not get a silent alarm or have the tests be for show like they always are. What’s the procedure?


r/Wildfire • • 2d ago

When do Temporary/Seasonal positions open on USA Jobs?

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I read something saying possibly October 30th.


r/Wildfire • • 2d ago

Nature Conservancy: Seasonal Burn Crew Manager

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Hey folks - We are hiring for a seasonal prescribed fire crew lead position in NW Georgia (Rome). A full description of the position (pay, position requirements, etc) can be found on the TNC Career Portall by searching for location (Rome, GA) - job number is JR103920.

This seasonal crew lead position will share responsibility for managing 6 crew members with an additional seasonal crew lead. Typically the crew is split into smaller units along with a Burn Crew Manager and are responsible for assisting multiple state and federal partners is implementing prescribed fire in NW Georgia. Please understand that while this crew has been in existence for at least 9 years it is generally a career developmental crew in that member positions are typically filled by college students or recent graduates looking to develop marketable field skills. As a result teaching and mentoring is a strong component of crew lead responsibilities.

Housing is available and compensation is listed in the position description on the TNC career portal. Rome itself is a moderate sized town located in the southern Appalachian foothills of Georgia. There are plenty of outdoor recreational activities available and pretty much all of the amenities you'd expect in a good sized community. Broadly speaking it is pretty much equidistant between Chattanooga, Atlanta and Birmingham and those are roughly within 45 minutes to 1.5hrs commute depending.

Regarding terrain and fuel types - Terrain varies wildly depending on location within NW GA and spans rolling elevation changes to steep old ridge structure. Fuels are typically pine to mixed pine/oak overstory with associated litter and understory. Local partners and partnerships are very well established and burning styles do span between more fluid and incident command type organization.

Position Dates - Jan 4th, 2027 - April 30th, 2027

Salary - $24.97 - $27.03 hourly

Regarding O.T. - Yes, OT is authorized, but not at the scale associated with western wildland fire. Figure that our crew season runs roughly 17 weeks and figure for someone motivated there's likely additional hours available for equip maintenance/rehab and possibly some weekend opportunities burning with the Feds.

Overhead - Program Director, Field Manager, Field Technician & 2 total Seasonal Burn Crew Managers (the current position advertised)

During the season the Field Tech and Field Manager are heavily involved in sharing the load of managing the crew, logistics and implementation of p-fire with partners. Typically on burn days the crew is split between 2-3 of the TNC overhead and function as mini-mods on a single burn or separate burns in the region.

The Field Technician, Field Manager, as well Program Director are long-time residents of the area and we do our best to support fire folks coming in from out of region. Having been thrown to the wolves in a number of different careers, it's something I do my best to avoid doing to others.

Culture - We are a very collegial office and prefer as much as possible to work as colleagues rather than strictly hierarchical.

<For clarification sake - yes this is a burner account.... trying to keep work and personal separate on Reddit. Feel free to DM questions and I will answer them as best as I am able>


r/Wildfire • • 2d ago

Employment Australian vol firefighter looking to work/vol in Ontario, Canada for a year

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Hey all - I'm an Australian volunteer wildfire fighter with a metro fringe / peri-urban brigade. My partner and I are looking to move to Kingston, Ontario for a year from mid 2027.

I'm starting to hunt for options in firefighting - I don't really know the setup, which agencies take paid or volunteer firefighters, whether it's deployment work or fixed brigades, etc. I'd love to stay at or near Kingston if it was a fixed position, and if it was deployment ideally rnr time would be good. But again I have no idea how it works, nor how easy it is to just rock up for a year either as paid or volunteer.

My expertise is primarily bushfires but as peri urban we do the houses, cars and factories as well. Command and control is also often our responsibility for the brigade.

Any advice on where to start looking would be wonderful!