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u/Sea_Helicopter_5377 10h ago
Perfectly valid. I like her as a VA, I like her as an actress, I like her as a comedian, but it really takes me off the game whenever I see recognizable actors in games more than once.
Imagine Joel from TLOU just being Troy Baker's face 1:1 with the same hair he wears IRL. That'd be ridiculous.
It's so lazy for me when devs do that. Like a Hollywoodification of games.
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u/Walter_Padick 9h ago
MadTV had 2 tremendous voice talents between her and Phil Lamar
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u/Ok_Entrepreneur826 6h ago
They all are so great. Way under appreciated compared to SNL people. Alex Borstein, Will sasso and so many more all great voices.
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u/C__Wayne__G 8h ago
With her specifically they do it so often that itâs VERY immersion breaking because âoh Therese Debra Wilson againâ.
Like the first time I saw them do it was wolfenstein and Iâd never seen her before so it was chill.
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u/FloopsFooglies 8h ago
I think the executives think that if there's recognizable actors and actresses that makes it more like a movie and therefore more... like its a real piece of media? Or something? Like they view games are kiddo stuff and think real actors makes it adult stuff and therefore worth investing. Idk
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u/Maximum-Objective-39 7h ago
Probably. I think it's cool to d from time to time, but I am definitely much more onboard with giving VA's different faces for the sake of variety.
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u/zombiezapper115 5h ago
Yeah its a bit immersion breaking cause then all im thinking is "what's the lady from Suicide Squad doing here?" Or "hey, its my jedi master đ"
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u/BeardBearWithBeer 4h ago
where is she in god of war
you mean that dark elf girlie? who hook up with light elf guy and they sit in freyr's camp all the time
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u/TrippinTrash 1h ago
Nah, she played Gryla, the giant grandma. She looks pretty different in game so I don't know why GoW is mentioned.
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u/DragunityHero 9h ago
Mortal Kombat has been taking a liking to doing this. Ronda Rousey as Sonya and Megan Fox as Nitara were god-awful.
But even beyond the random celebrity casting, instead of hand-crafting unique faces for the characters, theyâve just been face-scanning people and calling it a day. Itâs why most of the cast looks uncanny and completely different in every game and I hate it.
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u/OJONLYMAYBEDIDIT 9h ago
Some times itâs awesome though
Like when MK used Cary-Hiroyuki Tagawaâs likeness for Shang Tsung
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u/DragunityHero 9h ago
I will definitely agree with that, although thatâs a little bit different of a situation considering he gave a legendary performance as Shang Tsung already. Rousey and Fox were like âcelebrity of the weekâ picks and their performance was abysmal.
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u/Original_Release_419 9h ago
Tbf, itâs because it makes the facial animations 100x easier
Otherwise the graphic artist needs to try and recreate the performance the VA did
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u/Meme-San_ 8h ago
You can still make the character look different than the actor and use the facial performance of the actor
Neither of the spiderman face models look like yuri lowenthal but to my knowledge they were still able to translate his face scans into the game for expressions
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u/MudSeparate1622 9h ago
I feel like beyond two souls looked so good early that everyone just wanted to map real faces in every aaa game after that
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u/Sea_Helicopter_5377 8h ago
I'll 100% agree to that, David Cage (no matter people's personal opinions about his games) kinda is a pioneer on ideas.
He is the ultimate "ideas guy". Open world with multiple playable characters with different interactions... (Omikron), using famous people for the sake of it (Omikron), social messages via games (Omikron).
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u/fpfall 9h ago
> Imagine Joel from TLOU just being Troy Baker's face 1:1 with the same hair he wears IRL. That'd be ridiculous.
Lol you mean like how Sinister literally is just his face too in Wolverine but then also just his face in Death Stranding as well?
Itâs so weird
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u/Significant-Sun-5051 8h ago
In Death Strandjng it makes sense as they use the actors faces for all characters. In Wolverine itâs weird though.
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u/Maximum-Objective-39 8h ago
Yeah, it's a very deliberate choice by Kojima and also his studio puts a lot of work into making the scans look good. I despise the conspiracy that game studios are trying to make characters 'ugly', but a lot of them do seem to put in the minimum effort when duplicators a VA's likeness, leading to very plasticy and unflattering presentations.
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u/Drekus90 7h ago
So looking at the VAs, pretty much all of the Wolverine characters are modeled off their actors. Jean Grey definitely has her VAs nose. Wolverine is explicitly modeled off his VA. Then there's Wilson and Baker, and Sabertooth definitely looks like his VA as well.
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u/Meme-San_ 8h ago
âLike a hollywoodification of gamesâ that feels like what Sony wants tbh. So many of there exclusives feel like theyâre leaning closer and closer to movies and I wouldnât be surprised if ârecognizable actorsâ was a closer push to that
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u/Maximum-Objective-39 8h ago
I'd say that's a fair complaint. And I do think it's because, for the longest time, games were trying to become movies. You can see that all the way back with the inception of the Uncharted series.
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u/No-Advice-6040 4h ago
Kinda what turned me off Death Stranding. Like... I was too in to the Walking Dead at the time to see anything other than Darryl.
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u/Salty_West_429 10h ago
Yeah I like her as a voice actor but it's definitely distracting to see the same face on completely different characters in many games I've played.
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u/roadrunner_000 10h ago
That's not exactly a problem that only applies to her. It's an industry problem
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u/Salty_West_429 9h ago
Yeah it's definitely not just her but I think shes the biggest, or at least most noticable example.
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u/BingusBongusBongus 10h ago
But it sorta does only apply to her, Jennifer english is in a load of stuff and she looks completely different every time
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u/JJKEnjoyer 4h ago
Keep in mind that Wilson has said she loves when her character doesn't look like her, as it allows her to play her role better because she's not looking at herself within that world, and she isn't sure why developers insist on using her likeness
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u/a_man_has_a_name 7h ago
She is the only persons face I can recognise across multiple franchises playing different characters, i cannot think of another face I have ever recognised across multiple different video game franchises.
Off the top of my head destiny, the jedi games, pretty sure she was in a COD or other FPS, death stranding. Are all games she was in.
I cannot name another person i could say were in multiple games from the face alone. I more often recognise voices.
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u/Vanden_Boss 7h ago
True, but Destiny really goes against the idea presented here. Cant exactly say Savathun is modeled after her
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u/Eat--The--Rich-- 10h ago
That's why tho. They're trying to do the same thing Hollywood does and get people to go "that's the girl from that jedi game I liked, I subconsciously want to play this new game now"
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u/Salty_West_429 9h ago
Yeah and I get the idea but for me it pulls me right of being I'm.ersed in the games world. Cause I don't think that's character x, I think that's debra wilson. It's a similar problem to what I have with prolific voice actors who do one similar voice like Nolan North but worse.
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u/TheRealGurd 9h ago
That's what I appreciate about Ace Combat 8. She voices a major character in the game, does an excellent job like she always does, but her likeness isn't really used for the character, so I don't have the constant "real life" aspect breaking the immersion every time I see her.
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u/Sonic10122 8h ago
At least Nolan North CAN sound different, Penguin in the Batman Arkham games is the one I always point to. Him, and other recognizable voice actors like Troy Baker, are typically directed to do the same style of voice because, again, they want them to sound like Nathan Drake/Sam/whatever.
Troy Baker also gets his likeness used a lot so he gets the short end of both sticks anymore.
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u/Salty_West_429 8h ago
You know what that's fair. I was mostly thinking of hearing him as Nathan drake while he was playing walker in spec ops the line. I have also played a lot of games troy baker has disappeared into but now that I think he has several very similar sounding roles.
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u/JenniLightrunner 9h ago
Yeah it kinda goes against the best part of voice acting "not requiring to look perfect for the character unlike a movie and just needing a good voice and voice acting skill" Otherwise you might as well just start doing movie acting, the whole point of voice acting is that they DON'T look like you
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u/Salty_West_429 9h ago
Yeah cause in voice acting I can be a dragon, elf, dwarf, or eldeotch nightmare blob and not worry about how I physically fit those roles. That seems to be what she wants to do and is sad she can't disappear into the role.
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u/randomcman 10h ago
Going to have to agree with her. Sheâs a great performer but seeing the same likeness in all these games gets weird, no matter who it is. I liked her in Wolfenstein 2 though, she rocked that look
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u/Poop_Balls069 9h ago
Wolfenstein is what introduced me to her video game career. And I was so fucking on board.Â
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u/A_Hideous_Beast 9h ago
Perhaps that's one reason why she really got into her role as Savathuun đ
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u/Synth_Air 1h ago
I cannot help but just see her as cere from star wars in different costumes whenever they do this with her tbh, she's great but they have to give her CHARACTERS
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u/SarcasticGamer 8h ago
It's so weird why western devs feel the need to make the characters look like the actors nowadays when they didn't before. If Last of Us came out today, Joel would 100% look like Troy Baker. It's just so distracting. The funny thing is Debra Wilson is in the new ace combat game but since they didn't use her likeness people didn't even realize it was her.
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u/fuzzycuffs 10h ago
Yeah I saw that interview with her. I love Debra Wilson, and I certainly don't mind her in games, either as a voice talent only or her likeness on top of that. But I think putting actual Debra Wilson in a game now is almost a meme.
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u/soapstone-red 10h ago
Valid as fuck man
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u/Sylvers 9h ago
It's funny because I was starting to irrationally dislike her appearances (not seriously, just offhand) because I erroneously assumed she had an ego and was requiring her face to appear in every role she voice acted for.
When in fact it's the complete opposite. She even explains the same problem I had with all of this.. it becomes very unimmersive when you see the same face repeating across different game genres and IPs.
We try to suspend disbelief for films, because, obviously. But why on Earth would you not take advantage of the digital medium and take complete creative freedom? I think.. laziness.
Much respect to her.
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u/razulebismarck 9h ago edited 9h ago
I never would have known this was Callisto if no one told me.
I donât see it.
But bald is a dramatic departure I guess
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u/Foreign_Cobbler_1740 9h ago
She has such a distinctive face it's distracting seeing her in all these different roles. It's like the Rock, when you see him you don't remember his character's name or anything. You just call him the Rock. Lol.
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u/diabeetusNrobin 10h ago
Like her in Jedi Survivor??
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u/sexandliquor 10h ago
interview where she says as such.
and Iâm glad sheâs saying it because the chuds online that are like âhurr durr how insanely egotistical is she to make every character look like hereâ are fucking insufferable
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u/foxfire981 10h ago
I mean comment about "I could just do theater" is very apt. We are much more understanding in theater about character appearance. It's not a requirement in video game design. So trying for a 1 to 1 is odd.
A prime example. When Last of Us came out there was lots of comments about how Ellie looked like Ellen Page. Ashley Johnson, who is gorgeous, looks nothing like Ellie. It didn't hurt the character for her to look different.
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u/iVar4sale 3h ago
I'm sick of seeing her in everything and it seems like she's sick of it too.
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u/centinellaa 3h ago
She was fine voicing Thira in Doom the Dark ages which is a Caucasian-like sentinel woman
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u/HARRISONMASON117 10h ago
I think someone hates her and that's why they keep shoving her face on annoying or bad characters. Make gamers hate her on sight
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u/Akrius_Finch 8h ago
She killed it as Savathun, they genuinely couldnt get someone better to voice the Witch Queen.
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u/Max-The-Phat-Cat 10h ago
sheâs a poster child for diversity for whatever reason, even if she herself doesnât want to see herself there, the gaming ceos eat it up.
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u/bettycrockofsh1t 10h ago edited 8h ago
The truth, and we all know it, is that to ceos and shareholders or whatever, she's like 5 different boxes they want to check at once. They want women, but they don't want stereotypically attractive women, they want them to look "visually" strong/unconventional or downright masculine traits if possible, and they want them non white. She's all of them, and also is a good voice actor. She's a swiss army knife to the modern corporate marketing people who unfortunately see her as multi use tokenism.
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u/reluctantseal 9h ago
While I'm all for diverse character designs, you can really tell when it's genuine vs corporate. Characters are designed with VAs in mind all the time without having to look like them.
It's just a shame that rather than uplifting a talented black woman, they reduce her to that instead.
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u/AnonymousEntity93 10h ago
The irony is palpable
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u/WorthBase919 9h ago
For real, she gets mad because she accepts jobs that use her likeness and then sheâs upset about it đ¤Łđ¤Ł
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u/Mantiquirk 9h ago
I don't think "diversity" even plays a role at all. Speaking as an artist in game dev, I think it's almost purely a production call.
They're already spending loads of cash trying to use facial capture to drive performances that they figure they might as well just use the face scans as well. It has to do with this weird obsession a lot of directors (art or otherwise) with trying to replicate realism.
The real twist here is that the scan data ironically often costs even more time and resources to clean up to look like a normal human than if they had just started from scratch. But you can't tell that to a lead or director who thinks they know how to "streamline" the pipeline. It's very dumb.
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u/JenniLightrunner 9h ago
One of many reasons I always prefer stylized art in games rather than realistic
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u/Max-The-Phat-Cat 9h ago
yeah itâs a whole thing with hyperrealism as well I suppose and honestly Iâm pretty tired of the aesthetic but thatâs on a personal level.
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u/pichael289 10h ago
Yeah I usually prefer games to not have real people I recognize, kills the immersion
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u/arcadeenthusiast8245 7h ago
She is a great VA and decent mocap actress, but it's actually distracting seeing her face in a dozen completely different games. I'm glad even she is starting to recognize the absurdity of it all.
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u/WillyShankspeare 7h ago
It was so hard at first to take her seriously because she'll always be MadTV Oprah for me
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u/k0untd0une 6h ago
Didn't they use the likeness of the majority of the actors for their respective characters?
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u/wafflecone927 4h ago
except MJ in SpiderMan 2 for some reason..
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u/GumGumActV 3h ago
This is just false info. Maybe youâre thinking of Peter? They changed it so yuri lowenthall isnât the model for him anymore
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u/Lirrin 2h ago
Yuri was NEVER a face model for Peter, John Bubniak was. Donât make up things. If anything Ben Jordan looks a lot more like Yuri Lowenthal, than John Bubniak (Ben and Yuri combo even happened again in MK1 with Smoke). Talking about other people spreading false info, while also doing it yourself?
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u/flockwood7 8h ago
Mocap is probably cheaper than full on animation... Probably laziness...
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u/unluckyknight13 8h ago
Depends on how they do it but I think the cost of the actors and sets may actually cost more then animation half the time because you can in theory have animation done by a team or one guy (depending on complexity) and never got to worry about the actor, or you can have the actor for who knows how long.
I wonât lie I donât fully understand the point of the cube actor for the GoW game to be on set dressed as a cube because like voice actors donât need to be next to someone to do a good performance and the cube feels like a lot of effort for something that they are mostly animating anyways
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u/DrawingLivid8098 10h ago
callistos look in the comics was too cool for insomniac to do anything with
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u/Farsoth 10h ago
I love how once I see one of these posts in one videogame sub, it's posted in every single damn other one. And for weeks now, it's only been fucking Wolverine posts. The karma whoring has reached epic levels.
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u/1ZillionBeers 10h ago
Welcome to the internet, like 89% of people you see are probably gonna be bots
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u/Icommitmanywarcrimes 9h ago
Counterpoint, itâs really funny seeing each game with her in it slowly make her more photorealistic.
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u/Eminence_Kuro 8h ago
Why the focus on her specifically? I see other people pop up just as often with the same face. I like the challenge of hearing a voice and wondering who it is, but I also don't mind them being recognized by their appearance.
One such example is Noshir Dalal, ain't seen any thing about him all over the place (love him too)
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u/DrNanard 6h ago
Why does SHE focuses on HERSELF? What a weird question lol
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u/No_Divide6853 3h ago
People have been complaining in the more chuddy circles about how much work she's been getting lately.
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u/ghostoftallasi 7h ago
I love Charles from rdr2 and I think Debra Wilson is a great actor but he's been in barely half as many video games as her. She's a little under 150 right now lol. I think the opinion "I've seen her in a lot of video games" is totally fair
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u/harmoniaatlast 8h ago
The difference is most people have no idea who Noshir is. Debra's characters tend to swallow attention in every given scene. She just looks so.... present? Refined? She stands out in terms of performance, so creatives ask for her. People have simply noticed that and they notice her more
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u/Bearloom 5h ago
I can't think of any other voice actor that's had as many of their characters designed after them as Debra Wilson. They routinely get a couple: Keith David played himself in Saints Row, Sylens in Horizon was just Lance Reddick with some sci-fi nonsense on his head, Danny Trejo pops up in Yakuza: Infinite Wealth, numerous people in Death Stranding are effectively just doing cameos... but she's coming up on a dozen characters that look like her.
Not that it's her fault either way, but it can be a little jarring.
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u/soldiercross 2h ago
Apparently she's just way better of a voice actress applying for Video games so she just gets parts that call for her style of voice and delivery. It makes sense, she's been around forever and she likes working in games cause its consistent work.
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u/jsdjhndsm 20m ago
Everyone says she's super easy and great to work with.
No hassle, and talented, why wouldn't devs want her in games?
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u/BobsYourUncle90 2h ago
Overexposure. Thereâs a whole image of idendikit bald white guy protagonists from the 360 era, you could probably do a similarly sized image of just Debra Johnson, sheâs in everything as herself, as the title says.
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u/BLissy11750 58m ago
I really like Debra Wilson, I just find it kind of weird when they make the character in the game look like the voice actor to the extent that the character looks and sounds like the voice actor's orher characters in other video game franchises. I think the hate her characters get is unwarranted, but it's valid criticism (not hate) to suggest it is weird to have a 1:1 likeness of an actor show up in so many games when the actor is incredible and can do a great job portraying a character who doesn't just look like her in a slightly different art style.
Like if these were movies I would get it, but in a video game there is no limitation on how the actor looks.
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u/OnionClone 7h ago
Just saying people are tired of Troy Baker too, who i'm confident is not black
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u/NanaDTio 6h ago
I had to look up Troy Baker, and while I recognize him as Dr Evil Jr I canât think of any games his physical likeness was used for the characters he voiced.
I think Iâve enjoyed Debraâs performance as Savathun the most recently; because I didnât know it was her I could take in the performance as it was instead of immediately seeing Debra Wilsonâs face with her voice.
Not that thereâd be anything wrong with a Debra Wilson-verse of video games; but these things have not been meant to be those, and having both her voice and physical appearance in so many genres is just a noticeable common denominator. Let her voice more âcreaturesâ
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u/Eminence_Kuro 7h ago
I must have not played many of his games, I play the last of us games and didn't recognize him at all.
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u/MsVindiction 7h ago
Oh my god once you start looking for him it turns out heâs in fucking everything
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u/Common_Celebration41 7h ago
He's in my soup đ
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u/Suspicious_Isopod_59 6h ago
Oh come on, this might be an argument in like 2020 but he's barely in anything compared to how he used to be.
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u/SirSabza 3m ago
You have to scroll for quite a while on imdb to get from now to 2020.
Since 2020 they've been in:
The medium
Death stranding
Far cry 6
Lone echo
Bloodrayne
Fortnite
Star wars old republic
Guild wars 2
Metal hellslinger
Mortal kombat
God of war ragnarok
Diablo 4
Stray gods
Fort solis
ESO
Marvel rivals
Death stranding 2
Mouse P. I
Unhinged
Screamer
Wolverine
To me that's a shit ton of games lol, they're in a ton of shows too in that time
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u/LoSouLibra 9h ago
I think she's just feeling bullied by people who mock her looks into saying please keep casting me even though people are hating on me and saying they're tired of seeing me, it's not my creative decision, it's not my fault, I'm fine just being voice only with no likeness / performance capture etc please don't take my career and passiong from me etc.
People keep sharing this interview snippet like it's some ha gotcha thing, when I'm sure most of us didn't have a problem seeing her in games as a regular who seemingly loves working in video games. I think she's cool and she's been down for a long time, whether we see her likeness or not.
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u/Frank1gg 6h ago
Honestly I kind of wish video games would stop using real world people and likenesses at all. One of the main reasons I couldn't get into Grand theft Auto San Andreas when it came out when I was a teenager was because of the fact that most of the main characters look like famous rap artists. The reason I can't get into a lot of games nowadays especially call of duty is cuz they keep having people who are just straight up actors from the real world.
The reason I don't like this is because of the fact that when I see a character in a video game die I'm able to actually feel something because as far as I'm concerned in that universe they're dead. However when I see an actor that I recognize from our world in a video game it takes me right out of the damn story and makes my brain immediately go oh okay this is all an act it's a play or whatever so none of these people are actually dying and I shouldn't feel anything about any of it. It's why I have a hard time getting into movies anymore is because I know none of the stakes are real. So honestly yeah in the future I hope they stop using real world likenesses in video games because it's just bad. It never looks good it's never fun and it ruins the experience.
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u/DisgustedMf 4h ago edited 1h ago
Only Ryder looked like a famous rapper (Eazy E) everyone else just looked like random mfs you'd find in L A
I know what you are...
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u/reklaw215 3h ago
you're worried that you can't "get into" call of duty because it uses real people? what an odd thing to say
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u/Feathered_Serpent8 8h ago
She is an excellent VA who I always appreciate in games. That said, it still makes no sense to me in a medium where you have total creative control you put yourself in a situation where you can zap reality by using an actual person.
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u/BeatFarmer1986 9h ago
Itâs either: * Lazy artists that didnât want to put an effort into creating the comic book likeness * Executive Producer looking to save money and didnât want artists spending time to create the comic book likeness and just use the 3d scanned model.
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u/Al3jandr0 9h ago
Third reason: Marketing. The Money PeopleTM want someone to buy the game and they don't care whether it's a gamer or a good little consumer who just buys things that they recognize.
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u/MusoukaMX 8h ago
Kinda crazy that just artistic preference isn't an option.
I mean Insomniac changed Peter Parker's design to look more like an age-matching version of Yuri Lowenthal. It wouldn't be far fetched to think they like it that way. Even if no one else likes it.
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u/Al3jandr0 5h ago
It's always an option, but the existence of preference doesn't explain why one specific thing is a trend. Spider-Man is a cool example because he's already known as the character. Even then though, it's still a marketing decision to sell the game to people who might not have bought it on its merits as a game alone
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u/MyUltIsMyMain 9h ago
Ive enjoyed every performance I see her do. Although she said herself she's getting a bit tired of all her character just looking like her.
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u/Schlong_Gobbler 9h ago edited 9h ago
More non irl depictions of actors, Troy Bakers face on Sinister looks absolutely ridiculous
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u/Dinomite35 9h ago
I lowkey forgot she was in Wolverine because Callisto has like 5 minutes of screentime and all of them are from the worst part of the game.
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u/Sirsauror 9h ago
Because nowadays they use them like Will Smith and The Rock. "Oh that's the one from that one game I liked, maybe I should give this game a try too" And because Western gaming studios are completely creatively bankrupt and don't hire proper character artists with a vision anymore
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u/PapaYoppa 9h ago
I love how she actually came out against this, sheâs a very talented voice actress but man seeing her face all the time gets so tiring, hopefully more devs just use her voice likeness lol
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u/No-Law2284 9h ago
I could be wrong but I genuinely don't remember her ever speaking in Wolverine, she had like maybe 2 or 3 minutes of screen time where she was mostly a background character
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u/dadsuki2 9h ago
She should tell these studios that because holy shit I'm getting tired of seeing her in everything it's like Hollywood
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u/KTrout27 9h ago
I like her VA work and in that interview she brings up a good point about how mocap work is basically theater acting now and how she enjoys embodying different kinds of characters VA work allows for that she feels is wasted when they just use her likeness for every role and I honestly see where sheâs coming from. Even if I enjoyed a lot of her performances recently I canât imagine how annoying it must be to be somewhat type casted especially in VA work where you can actually embody more out there performances.
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u/BiblicalBacklash 9h ago
Keep reposting this but in a different way. Fake Internet points will show them.
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u/PoppinfreshOG 9h ago
She was just in Ace Combat, glad they didnât make it look exactly like her. But man what a great performance and game
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u/MyStationIsAbandoned 9h ago
I get what she's saying. but I have to be honest, at this point, if I were making a game, I'd want to have a character that looks like her in my game too. at this point, it's like a cool novelty.
and no one ever takes advantage of how hilarious she is.
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u/gerardolsd 8h ago
I mean it was the style of that game, to have the actors portraying the roles be in their likeness like a real movie, nothing wrong with that and I actually like it. People just continue to wage war on a game that is just ok, like take all this rage to EA sports game slop or call of duty bro
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u/rupert_mcbutters 8h ago
I donât demand anyone not to use actor likenesses, but it gets pretty distracting when itâs just her. Live-action movies have to use the same faces, but games normally do the opposite, having actors assume other faces.
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u/xanderholland 8h ago
Yea, it's weird having her appear as herself with an established character. I'm ok with it when it is an original character like in Wolfenstein or Fallen Order
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u/DanfromCalgary 7h ago
Cool . Now tell me the same thing but I want like a dozen more articles each misquoting a little more than the last
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u/Weak-Lengthiness5280 6h ago
What we been saying for years but we got called every reddit buzz word imaginable lol
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u/NeonAnderson 6h ago
It could be due to laziness or lack of 3D artists these studios might have invested a lot of money into their facial scanning equipment and thus the management then want to use it for everything
With Wolverine in particular you can tell they either lack 3D artists or don't have good ones who likely can't model a face from scratch as even the ones they did do for the game based on face scans look horrendous. So if they can't even work properly with face scans it is unlikely they can actually make a character from scratch
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u/TheyCantCome 5h ago
When I was a boy Debra Wilson had big giant titties. I think a big motivation to watch mad tv was her. When incel dudes complain about her being in video games and call her ugly or say racist shit it makes my inner child so angry.
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u/vid_icarus 5h ago
I reeeeeeeeallly do not like real life celebrities or humans in general being used as fictional character model in games.
Iâve never really been a âmuh immersionâ kinda guy, but seeing Norman Reedus and Mads Miklsen in Death Stranding really took me out of it.
It also lends itself to narrowing the pool of unique characters down the road. If the trend takes off I could easily see a time where we end up seeing the same 3 actors in everything just like what is happening in film right now.
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u/rumple_goocher 5h ago
Every article I see about this âinterviewâ (podcast) boils it down more and more removing all context lol.
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u/gitzraga 4h ago
Ya I like her and think she looks great in person but I swear the face scanning stuff messes up her eyes and makes them bulge out more than they do.
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u/wafflecone927 4h ago
Sony clearly has a modern thing now for its first party games to have long faced 40 year old women. also, showing skin is illegal
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u/Old_Hunter97 3h ago
She was in AC8 and did an amazing job as a VA for a character that donât have her face
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u/YotzerWriter 3h ago
But she likes money more, so she signs the deal allowing the studio to use her likeness. She's a big hypocrite.
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u/itsLustra 3h ago
I just replayed Gears Tactics before E Day dropped and she plays Mikayla and she's just the voice and yeah, she's objectively a good voice actor, and although like she said it's ultimately up to the devs to put her likeness in the game, it does get pretty taxing to see her as herself in almost any AAA game you play because she's in so many of them (good for her btw). It's refreshing to see her speak on it and nice to know it's the dumbass devs and not her specifically to blame
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u/Appropriate-Grass986 2h ago
I love me some Debra Wilson! This woman is AMAZING. But damn do I hate seeing her in everything. Really takes me out. Itâs a video game be creative! They donât do this with any other prolific voice actors. I feel like they are sabotaging her.
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u/Sad-Guarantee-4678 2h ago
They could've at least use her actual likeness, she looks so much better irl with her tattoos and piercings
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u/Important-Lock9090 2h ago
I didn't mind it in this game. Il thought she was perfectly cast, looks ans all. She's supposed to be a bit grizzled
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u/036b929e 2h ago
My personal theory is that she's one of the top women on the planet at rocking the bald look, letting devs skate by having to model longer hair.
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u/ExileLost808 1h ago
First saw her in Wolfenstein 2, and honestly that's still the best one to use her actual face
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u/ManyLostHours 1h ago
Genuine question, is she the most modelled actor in gaming history? I think Jack Black might be up there, with his roles in Brutal Legend, High on Life and Jumanji (maybe, even if he didn't voice that character in game), but she's got him beat.
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u/KushMummyCinematics 40m ago
I watched the candid video and it was great
She seems to understand and agree with the general sentiment that her likeness works on original characters but,Â
She doesnt understand using her likeness more and more over an accurate potrayal of an established or lore based character
She even seems to take greater satisfaction from her job when she gets to morph into the character completelyÂ
Seemed like a cool ladyÂ
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u/Advarrk 9h ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/6SEzfr96WtBbvnlz00
Peak Debra Wilson