I’m getting downvoted for claiming that Josie isn’t the "final girl" (I think it’s Mina, or perhaps Lizy as a second choice), even though there has never been any suggestion that Josie could be the final girl.

In fact, she was often compared to Jess/Emma rather than Sam (or Laura), a comparison that *was* made for both Mina and Lizy.

The graphics look better than in the first trailer.

Long post! Wanted to start a discussion about Until Dawn 2 theories and feel free to join the discussion and discuss your own!

1. Yoona is a trap sent by the island monster. I feel like a fitting prologue for this game would be to show what happened to Yoona and her friends when they were attacked. Since the prologue seems to take place at Blackwood Mountain, it makes me question why they pulled focus away from Yoona. Perhaps it’s because she wasn’t really attacked. That paired with the fact that she’s the one who tells them about the island in the first place. Another version of this theory is that Yoona was possessed/held against her will and is luring the group to the island against her will.
   
2. Sebastian is sent by Dr. Hill or is Dr Hill in disguise. Nobody in the group knows him and he is pushing Cameron to fit some sort of role in the group/story. Their mannerisms are also similar to one another.
   
3. Sam is alive and could have an influence in the game’s events. I’m not sure if Hayden (rest in paradise) really reprised her role, but the marking on her arm and the symbol that is seen in the first trailer are identical. If she doesn’t physically appear in the game to help the group, then I think she will at least tip them off or aid them in some way.
   
4. Anna is definitely putting out main villain energy. To the point where it almost feels obvious, so maybe she’s just a red herring. I’m not sure who else it could be though. The hunter that chases Josie and Luke seems random, but maybe that’s some type of illusion or disguise as well. The Jorōgumo spider monster that people have been theorizing can shapeshift into a beautiful, seductive woman, but Firesprite may extend her powers to being able to shapeshift to other entities.
   
5. I think the wendigo we see in the second trailer is fake. If it’s really true that the Blackwood section is the prologue, then I highly doubt the crew would want to go to Akashima after “finding out” that supernatural creatures are actually real. The wendigo definitely has a different look than the wendigos in the original/remake, and it’s wearing some type of yellow jacket that none of the wendigos from first game wear. However, the blog post from last month does say that Izzy ends their trip to Blackwood in a “chilling fashion”, so maybe she finds the corpse of a wendigo or character from the first game, but doesn’t necessarily associate it with anything supernatural.

Think 1 or 2 is false.

luke isn’t with her in these clips which in interesting. really getting excited for this game!!

But I definitely need to get this off my chest. I haven’t played the ps4 version in years and only got a few hours in back in the day. Anyway..the remake was on sale a few weeks ago and I figured why not..a new coat of paint. And yes I was reading online a lot about the differences but the allure of the NEW version made me want to try it.

A few things..the over the shoulder was a terrible choice with the remake and was something I was looking forward to. It’s extremely boring and slow as hell getting anywhere. No L1 to power walk. Also on ps5 you have the letterbox black bars that suck. You can remove them but zooms and stretches the picture. Movement also sucks. And going up stairs always seems like your character is going to do a t pose when they get to the last step.

I just redownload the ps4 version tonight and was shocked how everything is smoother. If you are wondering about which version to choose..please stick with the ps4 version.

I didn't do this in my earlier playthroughs because I felt everyone surviving was unrealistic in a horror movie setting, but in honor of the sequel coming out next year, and as a tribute to Hayden Panettiere, I decided I would make this playthrough more special.

Went in blind after dropping it a couple years back and finished the game in 2 days, and dam this was an experience

I actually felt scared playing it compared to other games, and surprisingly some jump scares actually got me

Question tho, is what happens to Josh set in stone? I got the achievement of keeping everyone alive until dawn, but he ended up transformed in the after credits like the red totem showed. Is it avoidable or that happens to him regardless of what you do in the game

I was thinking about how interesting the quote on his character ad is:

How much can you trust someone when your heart is broken?

Primarily because the development codename for Until Dawn was "Project Heartbreak."

Owen is the obvious candidate for the focal male character (à la Mike). But it did jump out to me that Nate's character blurb references the project name.

Anyone else also think this? If you don't know the movie Until Dawn it changes the lore from the first game. Instead of only a supernatural curse in the mountains that turns people into Wendigos if you resort to cannibalism. In the movie it's like a weird entity or place that can pull people into it and then can turn you into a Wendigo by repeatedly dying or something and/or they r manifestations of the main characters depression and fears. Obviously ppl didn't like the movie.

My main reason for this is because in the first trailer for Until Dawn 2, Peter Stormare's character makes an appearance. He's also in the movie as the main human antagonist. He's able to control or has some control or something of the otherwordly occurrence. And in the second trailer the characters in the game encounter a Wendigo as well in a snowy mountain. Presumably that's before events before they move to the main location of Until Dawn 2. Ig they are investigating the events of the first game in the same mountain lodge. A little other piece of evidence that I remember, is that supposedly Sony wanted Supermassive (the devs of Until Dawn) to continue Until Dawn as a franchise and make it into a series. They didn't really want to so they left.

Now I know this isn't a whole lot to go off of, but it really gives me the feeling that they want to or will try incorporating the movie logic into the game. What do you guys think?

Tldr, based off of the stuff in the trailers they have released so far, I think that they may try to put the UD movie lore into the games