r/ufc • u/sugabonesurmom Conceive Believe Achieve • 11h ago
Y’all cry about the UFC being bland and there being no characters. And then someone makes it fun and yall cry because he doesn’t act like Wonderboy/Whittaker. Dude has fun ass fights and talks shit, but this sub only cries about him.
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u/Bulky_Writer_2244 7h ago
Personally, I couldn't give a fuck about the shenanigans. That's for scripted pro wrestling shit. I just want to watch warriors step into a cage and fight with honour to see who is the best. All that extra shit is unnecessary for me, though I do understand the moneymaking aspect of it.
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u/Codysseus7 11h ago edited 5h ago
But I’ll bite Mr. 1% poster. Being a good character and a bad character are different things. Ironically Hokit plays 3 characters and none of them are funny or good. But it does make bots like you post about him so I guess that’s working.
Edit: I will say of course his fights are fun to watch. Dudes an undersized HW with a wrestling background mostly swinging for the bleachers.
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u/DAnthony24 6h ago
Who has ever complained about it being bland and having no characters? lol. This ain’t WWE.
You made up a problem then solved it then criticized others based on your identified problem. Gas lighting.
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u/ClutchJL 11h ago
Our definition of fun is not the same.
He’s trying to be a WWE character in the UFC. Don’t need Boy Scouts but his shtick is annoying.
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u/Inevitable-Cry-3008 8h ago
He’s trying to be a WWE character
Way too politically incorrect for that to be remotely accurate, Try WWF.
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u/ShoddyEggplant3697 8h ago
I've never understood the need for "characters" are people watching MMA for the fights or because they want drama? Wouldn't it just be easier to watch some reality TV shite? I watch MMA because I like the sport if I want characters or drama I'll watch a film or TV show. Shit like this just makes the whole sport a joke you don't see it in any other sport
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u/tical2103 7h ago
These new MMA fans like this WWE shit.
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u/lolpostslol 6h ago
Also, people tend to talk about the UFC like they are fucking promoters or execs, who prioritize making the sport get more viewers regardless of what it becomes. Likely due to influencers having an interest in that and implicitly prioritizing hype and audience growth over everything. Also clear when people criticize cards a lot for “lack of name value”, like, why do YOU care
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u/iluvcheesypoofs 11h ago
A shtick can definitely be done well, but Hokit is simply just cringe. Look at Chael - his shtick works because it feels believable. Hokit's feels extremely rehearsed and insincere, so it comes off as incredibly unfunny to many people.
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u/BGally24 11h ago
Diff is Chael is smart, his shtick was clever and actually funny. This idiot says nothing remotely clever or smart. But…this is what the UFC has become and we can’t be surprised. “Smart people don’t like me.” is all he reminds me of.
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u/TerninoMarchi 11h ago
Colby convinced ya'll that the only way to be a character is to be an asshole. I don't believe that.
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u/JJWritesThings 10h ago
Exactly. OP (and people like them) seem to think the only character option for heels is “8th grade edgelord” and get all up in their feelings when anyone else thinks hack jokes are hack.
I’m not expecting professional fighters to be George Carlin, but I’m also not gonna pretend to be entertained when they serve up Tony Hinchcliffe leftovers.
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u/tattlerat 9h ago
You know who was a character? El Cucuy. But he was just genuinely half crazy which made him entertaining naturally.
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u/JJWritesThings 9h ago
Yep. Funny how Liddell, GSP, Derrick Lewis, Forrest Griffin, Stephan Bonnar, Bas Rutten, Matt Serra, and Mayhem Miller (for a while) managed to become unique, entertaining “characters” without morphing into try-hard dickheads everytime they got a mic.
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u/PartyClock 10h ago
I’m not expecting professional fighters to be George Carlin, but I’m also not gonna pretend to be entertained when they serve up Tony Hinchcliffe leftovers.
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u/Alternative_Dust241 10h ago
Colby isn’t even popular. Most people hate him
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u/TerninoMarchi 10h ago
Colby rode his popolarity into three title shots and an interim title. Where he wasn't loved he was hated even more, but he always was popular. He's built his whole persona on the idea that he was almost kicked out for being boring but he saved himself by acting as an ass.
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u/Crateapa 8h ago
Who cares about characters, lol. I'm here to see high-quality cage fights, not watch a fucking soap opera.
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u/_Kumatetsu 6h ago
We’ve had great cards this past few months and the common complaint is they don’t recognize fighters and there’s no “storyline”
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u/ShoddyEggplant3697 8h ago
I've never understood it. If you want the drama and characters watch the real housewives or something shit
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u/orblox 8h ago
maybe if he wasn't on the white house lawn spouting bs about 2016's first lady he'd be a little more liked lol. Pandering to the epstien class never was something that appealed to me.
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u/tical2103 7h ago
FACTS. Thats the issue. Yet they wanna pretend its something else. Guaranteed if he said that about Melania, it would be a problem
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u/BroccoliTraining454 7h ago
I dont like his schtick but didnt care until that... he crossed a line, and shame will always follow him
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u/Perfect-Stick7353 11h ago
Word to you my friend:
Never and I mean NEVER base anything on the opinion of redditors. These people are the most toxic and miserable humans on the planet.
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u/Probably_Fishing 7h ago
I see you havent played Rust or Call Of Duty.
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u/ventitr3 6h ago
The average Redditor would be too sensitive for old COD lobbies.
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u/lolpostslol 6h ago
Yeah, it’s like reddit threads on sex, they make no sense until you realize it’s mostly obese people talking
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u/gladys-the-baker 11h ago
I would take this advice but I was told to never base anything on what a redditor says.
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u/Collin-of-Earth 6h ago
I think you're making the mistake of thinking ufc fans are a monolith. The ones thinking the ufc is bland and needs more character aren't necessarily the ones who think Hokit is a shit stain. Like me, I don't think there needs to be more characters because I'm an elitist who wants his sport to be about sports and I'm better than you. As such, I also think Hokit is a disgusting display of humanity. He's also a good fighter.
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u/Crowgression 5h ago
Exactly, people on the Internet do this shit constantly and it's annoying.
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u/AirportGullible5807 4h ago
People who like Hokit are the majority unfortunately and braindeads like this are the reason why undefeated fighters on a win streak are getting cut while Tai Tuivasa had to lose 8 times in a row before getting cut
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u/Positronomy 11h ago
I think there are ways to be a silly over the top character-type fighter without appealing to the lowest common denominator.
Then again the average MMA fan is nearly totally brain dead, so it makes sense Hokit rose so quickly.
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u/SerVandanger 11h ago
People be lying bro, just say you like him because of his political statements and owning the libs. Don't hit me with this obviously contrived opinion on his fights.
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u/dchurchwellbusiness 11h ago
I love his fights
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u/SerVandanger 11h ago
His fights are great not discounting that, but that's not why people like him
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u/GOPokemonMaster 10h ago
I like him cause he took a beating from Blaydes and kept giving him the finger. Them told Lewis not to quit and then played with him. I love that he talks shit, says a bunch of dumb shit, then goes out there and bangs
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u/KobeJuanKenobi9 6h ago
He’s not particularly interesting or charismatic. He’s very vocal about certain politics that some people feel strongly about one way or another. But he’s no Muhammad Ali
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u/GM-T800-101 7h ago edited 7h ago
There’s nothing wrong with a little gamesmanship. He’s just cringey. He has to work on his trash talk game. It’s not good.
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u/Automatic-Avocado885 10h ago
Just because he acts like an idiot and says dumb shit that doesn’t make it entertaining. Especially if you’re a non American fan.
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u/WhatTheWhereWhy 9h ago
i'd rather watch pro fighters be professionals lol if you want corny shit talk watch WWE
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u/NeonZade 8h ago
The WWE is a more serious and professionally run organization than the UFC. Putting on airs is useless.
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u/jean_still_unpopular 11h ago
People are "crying" about the quality of the cards declining, not about fighters being "boring" personalities. And he's not funny like at all. He can actually speak in full sentences and some how Colby is still a better shit talker than him.
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u/kmoneyrecords 11h ago
Volkanovski is a character. Jiri is a character. This dude is just a dipshit clown using a gimmick to overcome lack of skill. He isn’t bad but he’s above average at best, not an elite superstar world beater so he does this shit.
I just say, can you imagine if a ufc presser is all dipshits just like hokit trying to out meme each other? It’d be a full blown clown show and with the way you guys beg for it, that’s exactly what it will be. Prizefighting used to be dignified.
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u/UserContentBuffering 9h ago
Y’all remember that time that Hokit made it so much fun by vomiting all over himself and acting like a drunk jackass at the weigh-ins for completely voluntary reasons. So much fun! 🙄🙄🙄
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u/Charming_Lack1072 11h ago
The problem is that Hokit simply isn’t entertaining outside the cage.
Hokit has some talent for the sport; He just lacks the charisma and creativity on the mic that guys like Sonnen and Mcgregor had. Just a painfully unlikable person (or his UFC persona at least).
He needs someone to write his material for him, that would help a ton.
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u/cubertizer 11h ago
I find it entertaining when someone adds high stakes to a fight. Hokit does that every time. He's putting his reputation and credibility on the line by being this goofy moron and talking shit, but he's delivered when the cage doors close so far. If he had lost to blaydes or lewis after his shenanigans, he'd be the laughingstock of the ufc. I don't think he's a genius on the mic but watching somebody act this dumb and kick people's ass is pretty entertaining to see.
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u/dchurchwellbusiness 11h ago
At least he's trying. I have a feeling he's going to figure out his persona with time. I think he's trying to have fun with this and doesn't care how you feel
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u/Zajo_the_Lurker 10h ago
He acts like a bargain bin Chael Sonnen. I'm all about the schtick. Put your own spin on it. That's fine. But at least make some real effort. His stuff is just so low brow it's not funny. It's boring.
The best thing he did was call out Bruce Buffer for his hypocrisy.
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u/rockwrestler 2h ago
Nothing matters. You and I and everyone else currently alive will be dead and gone in only 200 years. In 500 years, no one will remember you and everything you worked to create will be gone, broken, buried or left to rot.
In a couple thousand years, there will likely have been some cataclysmic event that wipes out 99% of humanity (I'm trying to allow some hope, very likely could be 100% also).
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u/yunhyeong_ 9h ago
Redditors are never happy with anything, this is why the UFC (thankfully) doesn’t make decisions based on their opinions
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u/Sorry_Regular7028 6h ago
Who's crying about there not being any "characters"? I'm pretty sure a majority of the most popular fighters aren't trying to put on an act. You want characters, go watch WWE. If Hokit's shit-talking was clever or funny, and genuine, that'd be one thing. But it's not because he's not
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u/Efficient-Ebb78 6h ago
I like ppl who are naturally funny.....not ppl who tries too hard and forces it
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u/1Crownedngroovd 10h ago
What stupid take on a fighter who is a complete moron. OP should stick to WWE, which is where Hokit belongs. I'm blocking this clown
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u/threedogdad 11h ago
"I have no idea what fun is, I love cringy stuff a five year old wouldn't do" FTFY.
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u/PartyClock 10h ago
Calling Hokit's act "fun" lmao
Clearly his management is working hard to try and get his hype train rolling
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u/Vegetable-Presence98 11h ago
Aw, don’t be upset. Here’s something to keep you entertained while the adults are talking about the boring parts of the sport, like the fighting, instead of the wacky characters the athletes play at press conferences:
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u/Lothric43 10h ago
He’s a bad fighter and he’s not entertaining in or out of the octagon. You have 50 iq if you find him funny.
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u/Bungulator69 10h ago
Bad fighter yet he is 10-0 about to fight for the title. Yall just say anything lmao
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u/SaltyNatural3942 10h ago
I grew up wrestling with hokit in a little town called wasco. He was always a spectacular athlete, he and his brother Isaiah were levels above anyone in our room.
It’s cool to see how far he has come, and yes, his persona is a shtick. But my wife and I are always excited to watch his fights, he’s made a fan out of myself. I say who cares. He’s not out causing real trouble😂
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u/CozyCook 11h ago
Being hateful isn’t the same as entertaining.
https://giphy.com/gifs/26xBusOdUIYnc3a0g
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u/Lakewhitefish 11h ago
He's not funny and he tries too hard. his fights are fun at least but he is simultaneously obnoxious and boring as a person.
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u/ocalaagain 6h ago
OP: why don’t people like my transphobic, rage baiting king? 😭
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u/luytengamma 11h ago
He'd be based if he just toned down the corniness a bit like rhyming dumb shit on twitter and all and acting like he's black
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u/DesperateSubstance60 11h ago
I like Hokit. You gotta remember Reddit is full of stand up citizens with a lot of morals so anything even relatively close to someone being bad, they are not going to like him.
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u/FuhQueueMean 11h ago
This sub is man-children and teenagers; what do you expect lol
It’s a bunch of turds that have never played a sport in their life pretending that they know how people should represent themselves when they ironically act insufferable on here 24/7 lmao. With 0 self awareness. All ragebait when it’s time to argue. I wouldn’t put too much into this sub particularly
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u/Alternative_Dust241 10h ago
It’s great to see Redditors act like they’re above Reddit. Yeah you’re not like the others bud
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u/keyboardlegendthe3rd 11h ago
it's almost as if it's different people making different criticisms and we aren't all the same? Genius op
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u/Acrobatic-Ad5102 10h ago
Exactly, I can appreciate shit head fighters the way I appreciated heel pro wrestlers as a kid. I'm so sick of purity testing pussies trying to police everyone and everything. It's just entertainment. Go volunteer to better your local community or something.
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u/seanisdown 10h ago
Characters? This is fighting not sports entertainment. I want to see good fights. I couldnt give a shit about “characters”.
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u/ScarRich6830 10h ago
Who the fuck complains about there being no characters??? This is not a common complaint. This is some bullshit Hokit tells himself.
Back in the day it didn’t have to be the fucking WWE because the fights were good.
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u/parable-harbinger 10h ago
Yeah because you have to act like wonderboy to not be an obnoxious embarrassing prick
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u/TheJharen 10h ago
He's cringe as fuck. Does some weird as shit and his macho man rhyme thing is obnoxious. I'll almost always be routing against him...but he can fight. Im gonna watch every match just to see what happens.
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u/rapshepard 10h ago
I like wrestling, I watch wrestling for wrestling. I don't watch MMA to see real fighters parody wrestlers. Especially if it's just going to be generic asshole #47. Like NBA and NFL players manage to show personality without being edgelords. I just don't believe the only thing MMA fighters have to offer to show a big personality is being an edgelord.
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u/DailyToeNail 10h ago
It’s not entertaining - I don’t watch UFC for the WWE shit anyway. I think it does nothing to help the sport when you have guys like Strickland, Hokit, and Covington saying the stupid shit they do.
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u/Its_apparent 10h ago
Some people are entertained by unfunny people. You don't have to make a post about it.
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u/ChiggenNuggy 10h ago
Noones crying. He’s just retarded. I’m watching the fights for the fights anyway
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u/robm4481 10h ago
Hes fake has fuk at least Colby showed a bit more commitment to his character.. Josh just switches up seeming on who interviewing him . Fake as fuk wuth humor of 13 yr old . Waiting for his fart jokes
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u/AromaticBite4289 9h ago
Talking shit is an art form, reference young mcgregor and sonnen. He's a good dude clearly acting and putting on a WWE heel persona. Its not genuine or even remotely believable. If you think his press conferences are entertaining...may I introduce you to the WWE?
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u/le_toilet 9h ago
He's bringing WWE vibes to UFC. Not sure i love it or hate it but im here to watch it either way.
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u/Lrcorndog610 9h ago
He unintelligently talks shit and it’s not entertaining. Pretty good fighter tho
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u/Borealis-- 9h ago
I just don't find him entertaining in the slightest outside the cage. He puts on entertaining fights though. He's like a bad WWE character put in to MMA and I don't find it funny. But at the same time I find Strickland entertaining even though he is also playing up to a character. And Conor too when he was on point "in character" he was super entertaining. Even though they all play up to versions of themselves. But Hokit is just terrible imo, it's not even clever like Chael was. Colby was bad too, but Hokit takes the prize. I guess you have to be a WWE fan to find it appealing or something?
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u/meatmybeat42069 9h ago
The UFC is bland because the people running don’t care about fighting anymore, not because fighters aren’t acting like cartoon characters
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u/ssg_broly 9h ago
I’ve never once heard someone say there’s no characters in the ufc lol. I don’t like the personas at all personally, but is there no middle ground between wonderboy and intentionally cringe hokit?
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u/systemdnb 9h ago
I like Josh. I think he's part ret*rd and annoying as hell but yes he is mildly more entertaining compared to 99% of the roster. If he wasn't as good as he is it wouldn't be entertaining at all. Let's see if someone can shut him up or not?
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u/Fleche_de_feu 9h ago
Hokit sounds like a pre teenager acting "hard" to show how tough/legit he is (hes even worse then colby which i didnt like)
Hell even strickland is enjoyable to listen to talk shit SOMETIMES
While there is guys like sonnen who talked so much shit but was witty in what he said and interesting that over the years its still great to go back and listen to it (prime mcgregor also comes to mind)
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u/Happy-Process4268 9h ago
That’s not it. Hokit is just annoying. Colby is more entertaining than he is. He’s a bad attempt at colby
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u/No-Fisherman-8044 9h ago
As a massive Poatan fan, it pains me to admit that Hokit would anihilate him both in a press conference and in the Octagon.
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u/Beneficial_Candle_10 8h ago
Of course people are crying about him. He’s a heel. The entire goal of his self promotion tactic is to get people to cry about him.
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u/RobotYoshimis 8h ago
Being an asshole isn't a requirement to have a personality. Alot of people don't realize that.
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u/GRIZZZOO 8h ago
It's not that people hate him, it's that he's so bad at it. Zero charisma, pure troll
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u/DarkStarRb30 8h ago
If you want characters and drama, there is WWE. No one can top the originators of fake characters and bs drama.
The big issue is not being a character.... its choosing to be a douchebag as your "character".
Folks wanna see good fights, not heels and heros and their banter.
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u/SquallaBeanz 8h ago
It's thw cringiest most unoriginal gimmick I've seen. He's funny to the guys that still parrot anchorman lines and watch superhero movies.
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u/Empty_Ad9773 7h ago
People like actual funny or entertaining people, not characters. That's why mcgregor became such a big star. If you're going to be a character, atleasr be witty and smart about it like chael sonnen ( even tho I personally still don't like the over the top bs). If i wanted to see people act, id watch a musical. I watch for the fights, the characters or their personal life stuff i could give 2 shits about. I don't have to like these guys I just care about entertaining fights.
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u/the445566x 6h ago
Let’s see him win some more and the Reddit actually break down to chaos or maybe they will glorify him and take his side
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u/NefariousnessOk209 5h ago
I enjoy watching him fight and have no interest in watching the press conferences anymore so only hear half the dumb shit he says when people post it here.
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u/DudeWouldGo 5h ago
Yeah throwing up on yourself with fake vomit is super entertaining...says only you OP. Get off the dudes nuts
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u/Tig_Biddies99 5h ago
The thing is it’s so forced with Hokit that it feels like some poorly scripted WWE shit.
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u/Unclemeowz 5h ago
Sure buddy, "fun" ..... "hahaha" ...... sure ....... playing a character is one thing, but playing a racist one is choice
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u/toohumanforhuman 5h ago
If you think this guy's trash talk or antics outside the cage is "fun" I automatically assume you have room temp IQ.
His fights are bangers, though.
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u/kangaroojoe512 4h ago
No actual MMA fan has EVER asked for a Mcgregor or a Hokit. I was absolutely fine with Anderson Silva, Coture, and GSP.
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u/iKnowNothing8710 4h ago
I agree with OP’s sentiment. Who cares if he acts weird. At the end of the day it’s entertainment for all of us watching. It’s not that serious in the grand scheme of things so why not make it interesting with a few strange individuals
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u/Think_Percentage3353 4h ago
The problem is he is fake as F___! I’m all for having a real ass M F out there, but keep it real. If you want the fake ass shit go watch the WWE!
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u/DangerPretzel 5h ago
I think when people say they enjoy interesting characters, they're wishing for the cleverness that guys like Chael and prime Conor brought. Hokit's "13-year-old playing Call of Duty" thing doesn't scratch the same itch.