Just a heads up about some videos from teachers out there that seek clients and post some questionable takes on voice training from time to time. They tend to block anyone who is "inconvenient" to them, so, I am going to write this comment just to make sure something is clear here: I would gladly comment on them and point out any misinformation that is being smuggled in and, I am sure, other people would too, but it's simply not possible. Unfortunately this is how reddit mechanics work - it's easy to turn any subreddit into an advertisement billboard and avoid any responsibility as to the content.

Also, if I am at it, I want to note something that irks my for years an years. I've noticed a pattern about a lot of those kind of teachers. 1) they seem to barely have any voice dysphoria (think that demonstrating what would be a dysphoric voice for other people is some fun party trick) and 2) they tend to have clearly above average anatomy for this (makes sense) but are the most aggressive proponents of pointing fingers at people and suggesting the usual points of "anatomy does not matter" and "no one needs surgeries," and so on, I think it's clear what I am talking about.

And, there's nothing wrong with #1 in itself (not everyone has dysphoria,) but, why on Earth do those people take over and want to lead the rhetoric on this subject matter and tell others what their realities are? I don't want those people to be some kind of a spokes people that narrate my problems to other people out there. They themselves clearly have not dealt with what is un unsurmountable barrier themselves and yet they somehow think they represent everyone else in this.

I know this subreddit is mostly mtf passing but does this pass as cis male teenager or am I crazy

And I will be really glad if you have any advices how to make it sound more feminine?

Been vocal training for a year and I simply can't get it. I go twice a week (one session 1 on 1, other in a group) and it just won't click. It's making me super depressed; I don't go out, I hate talking to people and I can't answer phone calls.

I feel like surgery is my only hope, but yesterday Mayo system denied my referral request from my primary doc, so I am going to have to go out of pocket and pay for everything myself.

Would prefer to stay within the US, so who did you go to, how much was it and would you reccomend them?

Hey y’all, just hoping for some unbiased feedback on my voice at a terrible time in a terrible state.

TIA and have a good morning y’alllll

I have tried to voice train in the past, but I keep getting stuck and I don't know how to continue. There's not much info on FTM voice training (I know it's just the opposite of MTF but it's not that easy to just do it in reverse), and it's hard to find anyone else doing it. Most info I do find is just "just get on T" which is not helpful at all... So I kinda just gave up. But I keep getting comments on my voice and I'm so tired of it, I just want to do something about it.

If I lower my pitch, my pitch just starts to waver, and when I asked around to figure out why that happens, people just said "idk that's weird", so I don't know what to do about it. And I don't understand how to increase vocal weight, I've looked at so much info and tried a lot of things but I still don't get it. The only thing I've figured out is darkening my voice but that just sounds stupid with the wrong pitch and vocal weight, so yeah I've been stuck unsure how to continue.

I've kinda just been assuming it's impossible to get further without T, but someone I talked to was really insistent that that's not true (despite saying they don't know much about FTM voice training, but I digress...), so I guess I'll give it another shot?

Does anyone have some advice?

Chloe's Vocal Journey (and how you still need to train, even with surgery)

Also, today at 8:00 PM US/Eastern time (about two hours from when this is posted), come to a very special Q&A event with Chloe.

(Far more recent. Also written by me, as these songs have been.)

hiiii i’m @ day 16 voice training. how do i sound? i voice trained inconsistently with no plan from aug - late sept. now i def hear progress from day 1, but im looking for feedback on where to go from here...

i struggle to not hear myself just a man putting on a voice. also i think i rely too much on validation from apps like genderfluent (i get these can have useful applications but also can be bs, i have brainworms) feel free to spill any tips on how to get over that. i have a decent ear for imitating pitch & the quality of voices too.

i did as relaxed of a voice as i can, something that isn't intense to keep up. tbf i recorded this late, so my voice is probably pretty tired as well. trying not to strain because i felt like the day before i was really starting to push my throat & vocal cords.

i notice inconsistencies when i slip out of a head to chest voice. keeping up a thinner resonance in my voice is hard too & is close to impossible in regular convo w others. i’m more consistent when i am alone (probably anxiety).

i have a pretty loud personality both pre-transition & now. i’m chatty and oftentimes speak passionately and i want my voice to still reflect that. i dont want something very quiet or overly breathy.

i wanna move towards a fem cis passing voice as much as i can. not please others, its just cause i find it affirming. i think its possible, but if not then i'll adjust best i can. i can maintain high pitch, okay-ish resonance. maybe my vocal weight is still too full? something still feels off to me. thanks ^-^

I have been practicing for a while, but lately I feel like I have hit a plateau. Sometimes I can get my voice closer to what I want during practice, but maintaining that sound in everyday conversations is still difficult.

It can be frustrating to feel like you are making progress but still struggle with how your voice sounds when talking to other people.

I am not planning to stop practicing, but I am curious whether there are any natural-sounding voice changers worth trying in the meantime.

Many tools I have seen seem to focus on changing pitch rather than making the overall voice sound natural.

Has anyone tried one that sounds convincing during real-time conversations or voice messages? I would appreciate hearing about your experiences.

Are you interested in hearing testimony from someone who’s post-op for voice feminization surgery? Looking to pick the brain of someone with a background in singing and voice feminization? Scinguistics has the perfect event for you!

This week only, our regular weekly Q&A event has a special guest, Chloe! She’s a Berklee voice alumni, and is ready to nerd out about all the details of her voice journey, including her experience with VFS!

Come check it out, and ask any voice questions that might be on your mind, on the Scinguistics discord server, TOMORROW (Friday, October 16th) at 8 PM EST!

Did a cleaner attempt at my feminine voice

Hi all! I’m a pre-t ftm teen with a vocal range roughly of C2-E5 (might go higher? I haven’t tested my vocal range in a while) with warm up and I normally sing with the tenors (occasionally with altos when needed, sometimes their section is a little weak and I help out) in choir but I’m not sure what I should audition for next All State season (I auditioned for tenor 1 and did not get in, which I was expecting as my choir director was gone for about 2 weeks right before auditions) and what will happen to my vocal range (will I lose upper notes?) and what all will happen. Any advice appreciated! I’ve done my reading but I can’t really find anything on originally lower ftm singing voices so anyone who had something similar please lmk!!

Thoughts…

So ive been doing self taught voice changing, and have been able to get an alright sounding higher pitched feminine voice, however its not really the voice i want. Im trying to get a deeper, rougher feminine voice, like the one Jaiden does here https://youtu.be/zQb_Gwq9CGo?si=f-xkZUaDvEIzvfe3

Ive tried everything that i know how to do from doing my masculine voice acting, but none of them have produced a remotely good result. The main video is an example of my regular voice, and my high feminine voice and an attempt to lower its pitch

I smoked for a while before coming out and I used to think that was a point against ever being able to be trans. Now that I’m out and transitioning I’m trying to get into voice training but I’m not sure if I should try practicing a higher sounding voice or something deeper (think Linda Florentino in Dogma). Is there merit in trying either? Is one more achievable than the other for me? Help would be greatly appreciated :)

~ circa 2017. ~

Hello, I am a Music Education Major (vocal primary) in college. I have a few questions and was wondering if I could pick your brains a little.
My and many of my colleagues goals are to become choral educators after graduation. With the beautiful rise in comfortability in young singers and students coming out more recently, many students want to sing a voice part that affirms their gender but doesn’t necessarily fit with them physically.
As educators we want students to feel comfortable being themselves and everyone is welcome in our classrooms. While also singing healthily to protect their voices so they can continue to thrive in music.

Does anyone know of any trans vocal coaches that specialize in the trans adolescent voice?
Any resources or suggestions are helpful!

I am looking to collaborate with a specialist to set up an event for my fellow music education majors.
This is something not covered in our curriculum but each student deserves to have a prepared teacher