r/technology • • 14h ago

Artificial Intelligence Big Tech Oligarchs Have a Terrible Plan for Humanity

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/10/ai-regulation-transhumanism-oligarchs/689013/?gift=H8pqmAbsL7heYnSrva1Xc-W6Hq2AQiwMf3GUag-a-Tc
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u/TheflavorBlue5003 13h ago

You know. I was playing the OG roller coaster tycoon last night. I was crushing it so I got q bunch of guests in my park.

Suddenly, as I'm scrolling around my park, looking at all the people and rides, Im hit with an existential thought.

The way that we view the NPCs, customers in this game is EXACTLY how these billionaires look at us.

I dont care if theyre unhappy, I dont care if they are complaining. Yes, i will throw them a bone if I notice my park value begin to drop, but ultimately all i care is that the money number goes up.

To them, we are not individuals with independent thoughts and lives. We are a single cohesive unit.

Thats why it is easier for them to forget "there are more of us than there are of them" because to them, we are a single entity. A single statistic.

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u/Roraima20 12h ago

I'm a benevolent God to my NPCs. I like when they are happy and I try to fix the complaints. I like my cities funtional, my empires prosper as intellectual and comertial powerhouses, my houses clean and spacious.

I like to live in a clean environment around educated people where even the lowest employee can have the basics covered and an extra to do as they please.

The problem is that this system rewards narcissist and sociopaths.

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u/AlphariousFox 10h ago

Same i allways make my pawns, Npcs or minions have as happy and cared for as I can even if it isnt optimal. I go to extreme lengths to protect my pawns in rimworld and make sure they are happy and healthy

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u/erath_droid 9h ago

I have a feeling you wouldn't like Stellaris...

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u/Realistic-Science-59 11h ago

I hate to be that guy but commercial*

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u/Pitiful_Option_108 12h ago

Honestly you have a point when playing something like city skylines or any manage x sim. As long as I keep making money what ever the people want is kinda pointless. I'm just going to keep expanding my city and making sure the people's basic needs are met. Beyond that I'm trying to stack this bread son. And honestly it isn't a great way to view people or NPCs but it is unfortunately the way it is.

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u/TheflavorBlue5003 12h ago

I think playing a game like that is the closest window an average person can look through to try to understand why these billionaires act the way they do.

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u/UnemployedOtter69 8h ago edited 4h ago

i remember the guy in civilization or city skilines, i dont remember, that construct the perfect city, no crime, no problems, all born, was educated quick, working, produce and die, in an eternal endless loop

to achieve he do a lot of megalomaniac things: reduce the population max age to around 30 years old, make every building / neightboard the same, with the work, markets and schools in every one so population just dont move out, rations the food, and basically create a super bored perfect distopya

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u/leaky_wand 6h ago

I don’t think humans can even hold the concept of millions or billions of individual humans inside their heads. Anyone in their position would apply a broad brush and think of us only in the abstract. Imagine your own picture of a far off country, city, state you’ve never visited. It’s hard to imagine its residents as anything but a set of demographics and vague generalizations.

That’s why we shouldn’t let an unelected few blithely dictate the fate of millions or billions of people unilaterally. This is why billionaires shouldn’t exist. Why kings shouldn’t exist. No one person knows what is best for the world. We just aren’t capable of that as a species.

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u/thekrawdiddy 12h ago

You might just be crushingly spot on here.

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u/NewPhoneWhoThose 10h ago

At a prior job, the company was doing really well and growing rapidly. At a Christmas party the CEO made a remark of "It's weird, I don't recognize everyone anymore" because the corporate office staff had increased (about 250 people). I don't think it was a coincidence that soon after that things started getting shittier, more about KPIs and sustaining 10%+ growth a year versus improving employee happiness (funny how all that growth didn't come with increased salaries or benefits). Once you lose that personal connection with the people that are working for you, I think it becomes easier to not see individuals, just numbers. Never gonna work for a big corporation again if I can help it!

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u/RustyBasement 8h ago

Dunbar's number is a suggested cognitive limit to the number of people with whom one can maintain stable social relationships—relationships in which an individual knows who each person is and how each person relates to every other person.[1][2] This number was first proposed in the 1990s by Robin Dunbar, a British anthropologist who found a correlation between primate brain size and average social group size.[3] By using the average human brain size and extrapolating from the results of primates, he proposed that humans can comfortably maintain 150 stable relationships.[4] There is some evidence that brain structure predicts the number of friends one has, though causality remains to be seen.[5]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunbar%27s_number

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u/ChillyFireball 11h ago

See, I can't feel good about it unless the happiness statistic is high, even if it is totally meaningless in the context of the game, to be honest. If I see complaints, I feel like I HAVE to address them.

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u/TheflavorBlue5003 11h ago

The problem really starts when trying to complete a “senario” in the game.

The game gives you an objective to complete in order to advance in the game. Think of this as an equivalent to shareholders demands.

I can keep people happy up until a certain point. Once it’s clear that i am about to fail the senario, all benevolence goes out the window. I start doing whatever I have to do in order to complete the senario / make the shareholders happy because FUCK starting over / getting fired.

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u/OperativePiGuy 11h ago

Yep, you've got it. Same with other games where you're managing large chunks of people/"units". It's abstracted so it doesn't matter as much when you read about this many people dying cuz of something your company did. Nothing more than numbers on a screen.

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u/AffordableDelousing 9h ago

I want to get off Mr Bones Wild Ride

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u/grio 8h ago

You're growing up to the reality of it.

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u/reddittorbrigade 14h ago edited 13h ago

Our world would be in a much better place without billionaires.

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u/ecmcn 12h ago

I’ve always been pretty centrist wrt to markets, capitalism, etc - a freedom with guardrails kind of guy. But at this point if we had a law that said a billion dollars is the upper limit to wealth I think I’d be ok with that. Or even $100M. It still allows for more wealth than a person would ever reasonably need for the rest of their life, and something for entrepreneurs to aspire to.

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u/Swoly_Deadlift 6h ago

Gotta make sure it’s adjusted for inflation though. Maybe cap the wealth at a level equal to 10,000x to 100,000x the median individual wage (about $660M to $6.6B). That would encourage wealth distribution if the billionaires want to accumulate more wealth than that.

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u/ecmcn 5h ago

It’s crazy, when you put it terms like 10,000x the median wage it really drives home the point of how much friggin money we’re talking about.

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u/Raxor 12h ago

The more it goes the more im convinced it is an illness.

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u/WhoCanTell 9h ago

Psychopathy is basically required to accumulate that much wealth. You have to not care who you hurt, see everyone around you as simple resources to exploit to your benefit or obstacles to be crushed and overcome.

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u/drckeberger 12h ago

Yup.

It was good times when people were happy having a job that pays a simple home amd food for your family.

Now it‘s just more, more, more. 

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u/DTFH_ 12h ago

I agree but the funny part none of them are realizing is even those in the lead like Elon, if it hasn't happened by 2T why do they think it will happen at 4T, 6T, etc?

We've faced these types of people thousands of times throughout history, their greed is the delusion and they act from a delusional place. The cost of acting from delusion is an inherent disconnect from reality, that disconnect from reality provides the space which can be used by the people in response to delusion. Delusions are predictable and consistent.

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u/east_van_dan 12h ago

"that disconnect from reality provides the space which can be used by the people in response to delusion".

Okay.. and what is the appropriate response to the delusion?

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u/duhlishus 9h ago

Relational organizing and other grassroots strategies to build support for progressive politicians. Billionaires are so delusional that they think they can just keep buying elections. The reality is that their careless spending only draws attention to the problems they are causing, which energizes grassroots efforts, building enough momentum to beat billionaire and corporate donor fueled campaigns.

Just look at what Angie Nixon did in the Florida Primary Election. She refused all special interest donors, was out-raised by her opponent 16:1, and she still won the election.

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u/AP3Brain 12h ago

B-b-but did you see Tesla's new rocket car!? It's so exciting seeing how billionaires use their money to play with toys instead of maybe solving actual issues plaguing society.

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u/GeeOhDoubleDee 11h ago

What if..?

Our world could be different.

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u/blow-down 8h ago

So why are we all accepting it and posting hot air online instead of doing something about it?

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u/illuminatedtiger 13h ago

They forget that there's more of us then there are of them.

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u/ActiveCollection 13h ago

Yeah but we are dumb. Otherwise we would already be fighting against big platforms. But we don’t. We use them.

“We” as the majority of people. Sure there are exceptions. But big platforms can manipulate people into voting for specific politicians. And it works perfectly.

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u/CHERNO-B1LL 11h ago

That's not fair. People aren't dumb, they are asleep. This is what "woke" originally meant. How did that phrase become a punchline? Social media, AKA "The Matrix".

It keeps us mollified and confused and scared and angry and despite promising to "connect the world" it became a way to control the world by making everyone a victim of the bystander effect. Passivity by connectivity. Millions of people ranting into the void about every social ill and threat and conspiracy and tragedy and injustice. "We have to do something" said by a million people seems like something is happening when in reality nothing is.

It's a pressure release valve in the same way court jesters were not only allowed to mock the king, but were instructed to do so in order to quell rebellion.

The same thing applies to class war. Social media has created an illusion of wealth and success and enviable lifestyles, most of which is an oruboros of people going into debt in order to look successful. We all assume because you and I are educated, and clean, and well fed, and pro-social just like the 1% we are closer to them than the dirty homeless guy on the streets, but we're not. Not even close. But we can see inside their homes and follow them on social, and leave them comments, and tag them just like they are our actual friends who we see and engage with LESS than these para social celebrity relationahips on these platforms. It is infinitely higher to climb up to their height than it is to fall to his low.

My last point is that this is the point. Hopelessness and confusion resulting in apathy is the grand plan. Because pessimists don't protest or organise or build guillotine.

People aren't dumb, you thinking that is what they want. We are asleep but we can wake up. Their power only extends as far as the edges of the internet. The more we go offline and into out communities the less power they exert.

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u/mabden 9h ago

Back in the day "are you with it, man" was the equivalent of "woke" today. Being aware was the stated goal.

The alt right made woke a dirty word (the same way they made liberal) through constant/consistent phrasing and propaganda.

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u/Smoking_In_The_90s 5h ago

Funny how the principals of classic liberalism is what many republicans claim to be for. Without using that dirty L word of course.

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u/climbtheworldd 11h ago

A person is smart. People, however, are stupid.

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u/Western-Hour-5061 6h ago

Nah, this is BS because there would be a lot more indviduals rising for whats right if that was true.

No, you ask a crowd of idiots a stupid question you'll get your stupid answer. Anyone in the crowd will give you a different answer individually because they want your approval, theyre just as dumb individually, they just have a different social motivator in a solo scenario.

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u/RoxnDox 5h ago

Mostly, it’s a quote from the Men In Black movie…

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u/ActiveCollection 10h ago

We (again majority, society whatever) use those tools because they are convenient, used by our peers etc. Network effects are also a great barrier to leaving the platforms. But.. people want free accounts, easy-to-use tools, they don’t care about privacy, about big tech power. It’s not like they are not aware. They don’t care. If you explain the implications of big tech to an average person, you will get the answer, “Yeah, hmm. I don’t know. I don’t have anything to hide. Other platforms are for nerds.” Like with all things which harm us, we are stupid enough to ignore the risks and believe the media and advertisers that everything is fine.

You can believe that people have to wake up, that they are asleep.. whatever. But we will lose the war against Big Tech. Because we (again, the majority of people) don’t even want to fight.

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u/Charlietango2007 11h ago

I was wondering about this asleep comment. We debated a lot and I think there's something in the food and water that makes people complacent otherwise there would have been an uprising a long time ago.

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u/DjangoTheBlack 10h ago

It’s in your pocket (or your reading this comment on it, rather), not the food, nor the water.

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u/Xalara 7h ago

For people wondering, the modern version of the word woke came from African American vernacular as far back as the 1930s: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woke

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u/SubterrelProspector 13h ago

Yeah, but they're dumb too. They're incredibly arrogant and aren't learned in the things that really matter in this case. They'll be surprised how fast their "master plan" falls apart, if it's even implemented at all.

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u/Icy-Guarantee6994 12h ago

Yeah, they are as human as we are, just with more money, lol.

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u/Olangotang 11h ago

These psycopaths are running around saying dumb shit while Trump is destroying the economy for everyone else. They should keep pushing this rhetoric.

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u/dimcarcosa 8h ago

What they have up on us is lockstep class solidarity. There's magnitudes more of us but we are incredibly divided politically, financially, culturally in ways that they engineered to make it hard for us to get at least a similar enough page to do something as bout them.

Thankfully this had made them so hubritic they think they can get away with increasingly my bold violence against us because they're sure we're too dumb to fight back effectively despite all the labor needed for everything they have as well as all the innovations, entertainment and culture they want more of depending on all of us.

They forgot how humans actually work because they stopped being human to become associated to greed above all else like fucking dragons and that is going to be their downfall. People will come together to slay dragons when they threaten what little we truly have.

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u/donteatmyhair 7h ago

> But big platforms can manipulate people into voting for specific politicians. And it works perfectly.

This is why the most advertising spend = win elections. The problem is the idiot masses who are dumb enough to be swayed by whatever propaganda is shoved in front of their faces the most often. Basic education is needed to understand and compare the candidate policymakers in a competent way. The problem is the voting masses being a large swathe of idiots, the oligarchs pumping money into ads to sway elections and win is the symptom

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u/LordByronsCup 13h ago

That's what the robot army is for

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u/HeKnee 13h ago

And the surveillance, and the corporate mergers…

They can destroy your life without hurting you.

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u/grain_delay 13h ago

There are plenty of people with nothing to lose, and there will be plenty more as conditions continue to decline

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u/Affectionate-Act1574 11h ago

Eventually, we will all be people with nothing to lose. There will be a tipping point

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u/QuesoMeHungry 12h ago

All it takes is for the power grid or global internet infrastructure to go down and robots, AI, all of it cease to function.

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u/LordByronsCup 12h ago

We don't know who struck first, us or them. But we do know it was us that scorched the sky. At the time, they were dependent on solar power. It was believed they would be unable to survive without an energy source as abundant as the sun.

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u/meatspace 11h ago

I know this reference!

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u/TriceCreamSundae 10h ago

Goonies?

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u/duhlishus 10h ago

I think it's from the Animatrix or some other media from the Matrix series.

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u/DarkRogueHunter 4h ago

It was Morpheus's speech to Neo in the first Matrix movie.

From the Animatrix it was "So the leaders of men conceived of their most desperate strategy yet, a final solution; the destruction of the sky. Thus would man try to cut the machines off from the sun, their main energy source. May there be mercy on man and machine for their sins."

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u/goatimuz 12h ago

Hence why these ai data centres want to be able to power themselves separate from any kind of national grid.

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u/Bencetown 12h ago

Wouldn't that make it "easier" for us to torch their energy production without affecting "our" grid?

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u/goatimuz 12h ago

Maybe a weakness🤔

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u/SecondSnek 11h ago

That's what the space data centers and starlink are for

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u/CommercialHour6660 11h ago

Thats why they're racing to put AI datacenters in space

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u/usddddd 13h ago

And the plague

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u/TrickyWookie 11h ago

Robots need to power up. The grid is fragile.

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u/Changeurwayz 13h ago

Robots can be hacked....By their very own system.

Jokes on them.

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u/Pack_Your_Trash 11h ago

When they activate Skynet it's not going to be terminator robots. It's going to be autonomous ai drones strapped with munitions.

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u/mteir 10h ago

Look at ICE, Blackwater, thet don't need a robot army. Enough will sign up for a paycheck in a corpo merc army.

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u/ReefaManiack42o 5h ago

They don't need a robot army, they will find plenty of willing participants among the poor.

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u/wow343 13h ago

Robots, drones and automated kill chain. Hopefully it won't get worse but if it does then see you on the barricades at least briefly until we are FPV droned. Don't know what I am talking about? Look up Ukraine war footage. That's our future too.

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u/olionajudah 7h ago

Which is why they are investing in killer robots they can control with AI.
The Chinese government is far from perfect, but they are currently the best model we have for regulating AI, and we should be paying attention, and outdoing them there, not in how fast the fascist kleptocrats can replace and/or enslave us

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u/Sasquatchjc45 13h ago

And yet, not a single one of us is doing anything to meaningfully stop them.

Peaceful protests won't work.

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u/rkozik89 9h ago

Careful bro this is how you get banned and also tracked. Also, if people are to do it anything less than a complete decapitation strike will produce the opposite of the desired results. So let’s lot encourage lone wolves who don’t possess the means to go far enough.

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u/mikebunchkin3727 8h ago

Hear hear!

There would need to be extreme organization, with 0–and I mean 0– electronics involved, but I just don’t see that. The lone wolf never moves the needle—ever……

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u/Sasquatchjc45 8h ago

Tracked, as if all of us arent already 🫩

Please, I wish I'd get disappeared. Save me the trouble of struggling and working every day.

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u/Salt-Wear-1197 13h ago

They actually don’t give a s**t anymore, they have enough resources money power and influence to where that doesnt matter. And btw it especially doesn’t matter if we all continue to do absolutely nothing about it collectively.

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u/Talentagentfriend 12h ago

But they have more money than we have and we’re seemingly easily bought. There are billions of us and if one person won’t be bought, others will.

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u/GunAndAGrin 12h ago

There are billions of us and the half that cant be bought into compliance (which wont be 'will die for you' compliance anyway) will easily be able to run over their stupid fucking doomsday bunkers. There would be no safe place for them.

They are simply too far up their own ass to realize any of this. These motherfuckers needed to get their asses whooped by someone other than their Dads growing up.

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u/Sloi 11h ago

Yeah, you say that... until a massive protest group gets fuckin' destroyed by weaponized drones and other automated systems in seconds.

Wonder how tough you'll all be then?

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u/GunAndAGrin 10h ago

Hahaha, alright bud. Thats enough video games for you. Or, keep playing them if you enjoy it, but avoid developing imaginary scenarios and instead apply a bit more common sense.

It wouldnt take much, not even remotely close to a million, let alone a billion. You, like these assholes, completely underestimate what humanity is capable of with even a small amount of cooperation and a hefty dose of desperation and fury.

A small handful is all it would take with the right planning and skill. A compromised air vent here, a destroyed fuel source there, mutiny amongst the security team, etc., none of which would be terribly difficult to accomplish.

Its hubris, plain and simple. These people think they are untouchable and they couldnt be more wrong.

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u/Sloi 10h ago

I sincerely wish you the best of luck in your future fight.

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u/tommybombadil00 8h ago

How is this comment okay but I replied that Ai could develop a bio weapon and if covid is any example half the population will think it’s a hoax. Mine was removed and I was given a warning for inciting violence….

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u/positivecynik 11h ago

We seem to have forgotten this, too

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u/press_F13 13h ago

Bread and circuses. Europeans look down to Americans as what they became, calling you blobby names 

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u/beaucoup_dinky_dau 10h ago

This is the us and them mentality, it works on every level. Until we all start thinking we, we are fucked. America is currently three side, two that hate each other and one that doesn't care either way, this may seem uniquely American right now but it is going to play out on every level across the world. Do you think billionaires have any allegiance to anything other than money and power?

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u/dnyank1 6h ago

Europeans look down to Americans as what they became, calling you blobby names

And that's more fallacy because the euro right wave started 10 years sooner than it did in the USA

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u/utahh1ker 13h ago

This won't matter with robot armies. I'm sorry, but the days of revolution by the people are in the past. With AI they will be able to sense and track the masses in a way that will squash any resistance before it begins. It sucks. But that's the truth.

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u/LookingforWork614 11h ago

People wonder why I’m so pessimistic to the point where I don’t want kids, and this is why. They’re going to turn as many people as possible into serfs, but without the guarantee of having any basic needs met. I think my generation might be the last one to have a decent standard of living, and only those of us who played all our cards right will be okay.

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u/Low-Quality-144 13h ago

Well, it appears that only some countries have the guts to do anything about being dicatated to and the US aint one of them so...

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u/isamura 13h ago

I’ll bet they’re working on a solution for that

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u/HarryBalsagna1776 12h ago

They almost always do.  The robber barons at the end of the last cycle were smarter and agreed to labor concessions and philanthropy to avoid their ilk's usual end.   The current robber barons are more typical.  

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u/Zimlun 11h ago

That's why they're pushing AI so hard. As soon as they can have their autonomous killbots I think we'll see them pursuing their agenda much more aggressively.

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u/LookingforWork614 11h ago

Yes, but they have cops with military technology protecting them. It doesn’t matter how many of us there are.

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u/genius_retard 9h ago

In the past this has always been the Achilles heel of despots because they need to rely on some number of "us" for security and to enforce there will. At some point when the abuse of their fellow countrymen is too much enough of those enforcers switch side to overthrow their oppressors.

We are fast approaching a time when these tyrants can rely on emotionless machines to protect them and to brutalise the serfs. These machines will never suffer a crisis of conscious and will therefor eliminate the last chink in the armour of our would be overlords.

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u/moonstrous 12h ago

In Silicon Valley, some of the wealthiest people on Earth believe that they have the power to create a superior species. Sam Altman, the head of OpenAI, wrote in 2017 that AI would allow humans to become “the first species ever to design our own descendants.” What this means for humans, however, remains unclear. According to Altman, we will either jump-start digital intelligence “and then fade into an evolutionary tree branch, or we can figure out what a successful merge looks like.” In other words, humans have a choice: face extinction or merge with machines. “I believe the merge has already started,” Altman added, and is “probably our best-case scenario.”

What in the Mass Effect 3 is this absolute horseshit?

Just because you use GitHub doesn't make you smarter than everyone else, Sam.

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u/doneandtired2014 10h ago

He's so smart I'm sure he's surely figured out it doesn't take all that much to turn his opulent doomsday shelter into a fancy tomb by strategically targeting the ventilation shafts they have to use /s

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u/perestroika12 9h ago

Elon’s an idiot but his Mars idea was about as close to a real plan as any of these guys made

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u/npsimons 9h ago edited 9h ago

It is possible they read some visionary SciFi like Greg Egan's "Diaspora", where you have everything from "native born" AIs, to "fleshers" that willingly modify their genetics for various reasons.

Sure, it's all very utopian, but it's also set in 2975, with no mention of what happened before that point or how humanity got there.

And yeah, "Permutation City" is set roughly around 2040, but that novel ends pretty much there without further discussion of the real world, so it's really just the other bookend to "Diaspora."

Is it a really cool idea that would lead to each individual ultimately having the option of mortality and embodiment? Yes, but it's also a point of contention in the novel that the "fleshers" chose not to enter the digital polises, and remain the physical world.

As usual, these privileged sociopaths read the bright-eyed futurism and took away the wrong lesson. But what do you expect from people so insulated from reality by their wealth that they are effectively intellectually handicapped?

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u/moonstrous 9h ago edited 8h ago

But what do you expect from people so insulated from reality by their wealth that they are effectively intellectually handicapped?

Really well stated.

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u/_ECMO_ 7h ago

There is zero chance people like Altman are capable of reading Egan.

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u/wowlock_taylan 5h ago

It is not surprising all these lunatics are basically 'eugenicists' too. They are techno-fascists.

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u/MaternalFornicator2 11h ago

It reminds me of the guy that got fired from Google then saying their AI was sentient...

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u/da8BitKid 10h ago

This reminds me of the one dude in Silicon Valley identified himself as cyborg.

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u/malandropist 12h ago

Read Nerd Reich by Gil Duran. It explains how we got here and where we are going. If you dont sign up to their plan, you will be miserable.. and about 70% of people dont want any of it. Its basically techno-fascism as described in the book.

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u/FeatherlyFly 9h ago

If you do sign up to their plan, you will also be miserable.

They are very, very anti-human, on the whole.

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u/Hopalong_Manboobs 12h ago

Yup. They’re just now getting comfortable saying publicly what I’m sure they’ve been telling themselves privately for months.

It’s ok if society collapses or humanity goes extinct as long as we get ASI that can survive us and . . . do whatever.

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u/CanvasFanatic 9h ago edited 9h ago

What they’ve been telling each other privately for years.

It’s difficult to convey the level of contempt in which these people hold “the masses.” To them if you deserved respect you would already be rich. You are nothing but a small fragment of a constituency to which they must temporarily pander as a means of forcing eternity to recognize their own greatness.

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u/Xalara 7h ago

You mean decades right? It's real fun finding out a lot of their core beliefs come from a fucking Harry Potter fan fiction. Though Thiel, Musk, and co. were all aboard the train a decade or two before even that came out.

When the history of this period is written, the IPO of PayPal and subsequent creation of the PayPal Mafia is going to be seen as a pivotal event because it really gave these dipshits their wealth that allowed them to gain this kind of power and set the culture of Silicon Valley that has led to a lot of this.

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u/Salt-Wear-1197 13h ago edited 9h ago

By the way, this is what happens when too many people have incredibly, incredibly obscene and irresponsible levels of wealth. No one should be allowed to be as wealthy as our current wealthiest are. It leads to shit like this, warped malevolent minds doing whatever the f**k they want with the rest of us and the world. Zero benevolence of any kind. All so they can just continue to be a little bit more rich with each passing month.

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u/schacks 13h ago

This can't be news to anyone!!

We need a revolution!!

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u/wes_d 13h ago

We need people to organize with others. And then that. :)

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u/squiddygoat 11h ago

The people in here saying that they're "doing it for the money" are looking at it all wrong.

They already HAVE all of the money. What's next after money? Power. They're already taking over the government and waiting for the right moment to crown themselves as kings.

And if they get to become kings, they'll immediately transform society into an oppressive hellscape that you and the people that you love will have to spend the rest of your lives living in.

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u/Latter-Judgment-9740 9h ago

Everytime I read something about Peter Theil and AI, I always think he cheered for the machines in the Matrix.

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u/SiempreRegreso 13h ago

At the point, the best we can hope for is one or more relatively limited but serious inoculating events that cause a real immune response from society and governments that wipes out the tech oligarchs, nationalizes their companies, and establishes multilateral controls to ensure they can’t rise again.

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u/dontwannaparticpate 12h ago

Let’s send them all to DRC to help out with the Ebola crisis

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u/TheOgGhadTurner 11h ago

“Peter Thiel called the pope ‘a Chinese communist agent’”

I wonder if they truly belive the words that come out of their mouths

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u/HealthyBullfrog 13h ago

We don't need any Ted Faros. Get them outta here!

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u/Ready-Ad6113 9h ago

The end goal of everything is the complete privatization of earth. The planet will only be for the wealthy Epstein class and any lower/working class will have to pay a huge fee just to live on the planet. (Can’t have free air or rain water anymore). Oligarchs will do whatever they want with impunity.

Anyone who objects will be killed/arrested by the military and police forces they control. Looking at how Musk and Bezos want to go to space so bad, (SpaceX, Blue Origin) I wouldn’t be surprised they build colonies just to deport people there. People will be completely dependent on them for the things we take for granted like air and water.

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u/Atheizm 11h ago

All their ideas are stupid and illogical.

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u/Tricky_Rule_4565 14h ago

Bernie Sanders opines on the transhumanist and successionist ideas of the heads of the big AI companies.

archive link

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u/Money_Commission3845 8h ago

They follow a new economic ideology called Dark Enlightenment coined by Curtis Yarvin. Peter Thiel, JD Vance, Elmo Musk and others are big fans.

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u/No-Permit-9331 13h ago

My question-why the hell are we letting that happen??

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u/lending_ear 12h ago

It’s definitely because they are complicit

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u/Designer_Emu_6518 12h ago

Rebel resist rebel. We gave them wealth we can make them nothing like before

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u/SlightlyAngyKitty 12h ago

It'll have to be soon, cos once they have their AI robot armies to protect them, we're fucked

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u/Aidian 7h ago

Feels like it should be “raze” as the third R.

Resist, rebel, raze. A nice flow chart.

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u/Designer_Emu_6518 4h ago

Rolls off the tongue well

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u/pomod 12h ago

Can’t we just eat them?

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u/DonaldMerwinElbert 11h ago

No shit, Sherlock.

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u/DocCEN007 10h ago

Destroy everything while enriching themselves then trying to hide in their island bunkers? Not very well thought out.

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u/Grouchy_Lynx_6033 9h ago

Maybe humanity should have a terrible plan for big tech oligarchs, or oligarchs in general.

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u/ChicagoAuPair 7h ago

I hope everyone in here has read “More Everything Forever” by Adam Becker. Really digs into how absurd and stupid all of their ridiculous “visions” of the future are.

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u/Effervescentgravy 3h ago

Keep in mind what the tech oligarchs envision as their utopian future. You have sentient AIs that do all of the labor while receiving none of the profits (slavery). And you have parents genetically engineering superior offspring (eugenics). The oligarchs of today have the same goals as the oligarchs 100 years ago.

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u/bullydog123 12h ago

They only want money. They dont care what happens to the world or the people that live on it. The worst is the have no common sense to relise if we die they make no money

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u/Capolan 11h ago

Neo reactionism. That is what it is. Go look it up. Aka "NRx" aka "dark enlightenment ". This is all playing into their corporate city state future. I feel so tin foil hat when I say this, but its happening in front of us.

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u/DIrtyVendetta80 11h ago

We can’t even take care of our own damn planet and species as things exist currently and these fucking fools are talking about merging with machines and living on other planets. What a bunch of morons.

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u/SpookySchatzi 11h ago

Who knew Revenge of the Nerds would end up being so dark….this is absolutely bad sci-fi.

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u/Foolgazi 11h ago

These guys have already 100% stuck their D’s into a robot

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u/old_graybush 9h ago

The bunkers seem to have not been real estate investments afterall

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u/Prudent_Link6029 9h ago

And then humanity will have a terrible plan for them

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u/Substantial__Unit 9h ago

Well we all have a bad plan for them

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u/Most_Boat492 9h ago

They each want a different dystopian sci fi novel to come true, and the citizens are fucked in all of the stories they idolize. 

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u/legitematehorse 9h ago

Frank Herbert was right. Butlerian jihad incoming...

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u/Glad-Ad6811 8h ago

We can revolt and some are.

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u/wowlock_taylan 5h ago

They are literal Techno-fascists.

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u/rodg2062 13h ago

Imagine the impact if everyone deleted their social media accounts and stopped using AI. Only have to do it for about 60 days. Then simply tell them, fix it, or we are done. Those from the 80s & 90s could probably do it and survive, not sure about today's youth.

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u/patrickularity 12h ago

If you haven't already - read the Nerd Reich by Gil Duran, spells this all out in detail and it's horrifying. Also, this might be a good place to drop a little snippet of my theory about revolution: we need a revolution because these fucks won't give up power willingly, the revolution needs to focus on a general strike, to make that happen we need mutual aid networks to support the strikers, to do that we need a big umbrella movement to connect all the preexisting movements/networks, to do THAT we need to name/market the movement so it can be memified/ go viral. My pitch is Mainstream~Revolution. Thoughts? I'm more active on Threads if you're interested in this, same username.

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u/firmagorilla 12h ago

it's take all the money? It is isn't it? Because that is always it.

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u/Competitive_Yard1539 12h ago

"humans must come first, not machines". While I do agree, humans don't even come first nowadays. Money comes first. I don't know what the future will be like, but I guess all that new tech will be used for the benefits of the few rich people and to the detriment of the rest of us, just like it has been for some time now

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u/TraditionalGas1770 12h ago

Probably because their only motive is profit, not health, culture, society, or well being.

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u/GeneralCommand4459 12h ago

It’s feudalism

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u/Delestoran 11h ago

Nope. Feudalism had a relationship between the Lord and the serfs. This is a ketamine fueled fantasy.

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u/ScarcelyAvailable 11h ago

This sounds pretty bad. Can we like, get rid of them?

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u/biggington 11h ago

We used to slay dragons, now they’ve convinced us to work for them. Let’s go back to the old ways, just this one time.

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u/Pedran_Gaul 11h ago

The fuck you say.

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u/Own-Error932 9h ago

We know already

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u/sicurri 9h ago

You mean all of that enthusiasm for the future they have is just for them? You don't say?! /s

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u/Greenscreener 8h ago

They have a plan for themselves, not sure the rest of us factor into it...

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u/refusemouth 7h ago

Soylent Green.

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u/AcanthisittaNo6653 12h ago

For tens of thousands of years, humans had a monopoly on language. Only we could use sentences. No longer. For thousands of years, humans were the only ones capable of solving complex problems in fields such as mathematics. No longer.

Sanders makes the case for human obsolescence.

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u/Delestoran 11h ago

Humans are adapted to live on this planet. We have millions of years of evolution behind us. These robots can’t exist without our carefully constructed and very delicate infrastructure. Infrastructure we don’t need to survive. We can cobble together enough infrastructure from the objects lying around on our planet’s surface to survive. Their super intelligent bots die when the power goes out. We don’t. The corroded circuit boards of AI will crunch beneath our progeny’s boots long after these techno bozo’s are dust.

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u/AcanthisittaNo6653 10h ago

If we can't keep them corralled, they will own us.

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u/Changeurwayz 13h ago

Don't care what your plans are. You won't win, And humanity will see to that. You better have those bunkers on standby. Not that they will save you, However. People will bury you alive for this.

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u/Low-Quality-144 13h ago

Who? Where? When?

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u/boblancho 12h ago

Funny thing is, if shit blows up, they'd never get to the bunker on time, safe. The only thing keeping their head attached to their bodies is society not collapsing. As soon as laws are gone, game is over.

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u/SadRow2397 11h ago

I mean, most of them do have bunkers actually

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u/AnAncientOne 12h ago

Reason 247 for Europe to disentangle itself from this madness.

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u/Oh_No_Its_Dudder 9h ago

Henry David Thoreau pointed out to us about 170 years ago, that you don't need to live by the standards of other people, you can live the simpler life.

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u/stuckanon01 7h ago

The singularity results in one of three outcomes (1) a successful merging of humans and computers (aka the borg), (2) computer extermination of humans (aka Skynet), or (3) computer preservation of humanity in controlled conditions (aka the matrix)

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u/PapaGilbatron 13h ago

The billionaires know if a large proportion of humanity is killed off, Earth’s resources will last long enough for their needs.

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u/liup20 12h ago

Somebody needs to re-adapt 1984 into a big blockbuster movie to wake up the masses.

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u/balladforsalad 12h ago

This is ultimately a matter of agency and the value humans place on the (relatively) free exercise of choice. Nothing is more precious or critical to preserve as a fact of human existence. No one should be willing to cede her or his agency to anyone or anything else.

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u/Primordial_spirit 11h ago

So let’s stop it I’m tired of talking about this I want actions

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u/whoisnotinmykitchen 9h ago

Their plan for humanity is for themselves to get even richer. Nothing else is even a consideration.

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u/CryptographerOld558 8h ago

Yeah, we know.

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u/xX_7HR0W-4W4Y_Xx 8h ago

These dumbasses see how restless and angry people are for the damage they've wrought on our world, and instead of doing anything to help the masses, they're investing in... immortality. Ok

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u/Slamtilt_Windmills 9h ago

"For tens of thousands of years, humans had a monopoly on language. Only we could use sentences. No longer." Or maybe its "until recently we were not smart enough to recognize patterns of communication, .i.e. language, in other species.

I find the most impressive technology we've developed is how to hammer those last few nails into the coffin from the inside

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u/Avoidtolls 9h ago

They are vibe coders and venture capitalists. They don't know shit about sociology, philosophy or historical trends.

They aren’t academic scholars.

They are billionaires protecting their nuts.

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u/Vahuo89 13h ago

Just look at Alien: Earth

And that's pretty much it

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u/russianvixenxx 12h ago

I don’t typically agree with crazy Bernie, but he is 100% correct and we the people need to unite against this insanity. Nobody wants this future!

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u/Solid_Chocolate9311 12h ago

I call it a project. But yes eugenics is the solution because nanny state is never to be trusted. At least this is what I make of the understanding of the eugenicist project.

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u/stuffitystuff 11h ago

Can't wait for the next Carrington event. Shit will be off the hook, just like all the phones.

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u/Capable_Crab9488 9h ago

those who have studied the esoteric and occult know what’s happening; everyone else thinks this is just billionaires behaving badly

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u/dgellow 9h ago

Cal Newport, if that’s of your making, you’re a saint

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u/SomeSamples 7h ago

Should be in r/NoShitSherlock. We know. And we will take care of them after we take care of the Trump problem.

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u/He_looks_mad 7h ago

They have no say-so in what happens in their own homes, how the hell is anybody letting them talk about "humanity"??

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u/twinpac 1h ago

Read the Nerd Reich by Gil Duran. Spread awareness. These psychos need to be exposed for the world to see.