r/sanpedrocactus • • 22d ago

Please stop telling people to go to /r/mescaline with any questions about San Pedro use.

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Please stop telling people to go to [r/mescaline](r/mescaline) with any questions about San Pedro use. These questions are totally appropriate here. [r/mescaline](r/mescaline) is fine for some things but that sub tends to be more focused on mescaline molecule and usually into extractions. Huachuma/San Pedro cactus is much much much more than just the mescaline. Sending people asking about ceremonial use of San Pedro to a sub that’s about just one molecule in the cactus and more focused on extractions is not the go.

I know the rules can be a bit confusing but it is not against the rules for people to post about or ask about San Pedro experiences here, especially for educational and harm reduction reasons.


r/sanpedrocactus • • Sep 08 '21

Is this San Pedro? The Mega Sticky for San Pedro Lookalikes and ID training.

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Howdy fellow cactaphiles. This post will be stickied as a reference to help people identify the common San Pedro Lookalikes. The following plants are columnar cacti that are easily confused for the Trichocereus species. You can use this guide to compare your mystery cactus to these photos and descriptions.

#1 - Cereus species - 

The infamous "Peruvian Apple Cactus." This is most commonly mistaken for San Pedro because it's size, profile, color, and flowers look very similar to Trichocereus.

There are several species of Cereus that look almost identical. They usually get lumped into the description of Cereus peruvianus, which is not an accepted species.(https://cactiguide.com/article/?article=article3.php). These include C.repandus, C. jamacaru, C. forbesii, C. hexagonus and C. stenogonus. Other Cereus species are easier to distinguish from Trichocereus.

The main features that distinguish a Cereus from a Trichocereus are the flat skinny ribs, hairless flower tubes, and the branching tree-like structure of mature plants.

Cereusly flat and skinny ribs

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So flat... So skinny... So Cereus.

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Tree-like branching, with hairless fruits and flowers.

#2 - Myrtillocactus geometrizans - 

This cactus goes by many names including the blue candle, whortleberry, bilberry, blue myrtle...

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This plant often has a deep blue farina, but larger plants usually look light green. Young plants are columnar and usually have 5-6 angular ribs. The ribs are often thicker than a Cereus and narrower than Trichocereus. Mature plants can get large, but are more shrub-like than tree-like. 

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The best way to distinguish these plants from Trichocereus is to look at the spines. Myrtillos have a few short spines per areole. The spines on short plants are usually dark colored and pyramidal (instead of round, needle-like spines.) Spine length increases as the plants age, but the spines stay angular.

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We have all seen these at every plant store we have ever been to. The blue farina and short, dark, pyramidal spines are dead givaways.

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Mature plants are shrub-like. The spines get longer and lighter colored with maturity.

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#3 - Stetsonia coryne -

This is the toothpick cactus. It looks very similar to Trichocereus species like T. peruvianus, T. knuthianus, etc. However, there are a few subtle ways to distinguish a Toothpick cactus from a Trichocereus.

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The dermis of a Stetsonia will be a darker green in healthy plants. The aeroles are large, white, woolen and not perfectly circular.

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 The easiest way to distinguish a Toothpick cactus is of course, by the spines. Stetsonias will have one long spine per areole that resembles a toothpick. The coloration of new spines will usually be yellow, black, and brown. They lose their color and turn grey to white rather quickly. Usually only the top few areoles will have the colorful spines. 

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Large, woolen, and ovoid areoles. Dark green dermis is common on youngsters.

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Mature plants have tree-like branching and get very large.

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#4 - Pilosocereus species -

There are many species in the Pilosocereus genus, but just a few closely resemble San Pedros. Most Pilosocereus will be very blue, with needle-like spines that are yellow to grey. The most common, and most commonly mistaken for San Pedro is P. pachyclaudus. Other Pilos are much more uncommon, or have features like long hairs that make them easy to distinguish from a San Pedro. 

Young P. Pachyclaudus will usually have a vibrant blue skin with bright yellow spines. This should make them easy to pick out of a lineup. Unhealthy plants will have lost their blue farina. For these plants look at the areoles and spines for ID. There should be about 10 yellow, spines that are evenly fanned out within the areole. The spines are also very fine, much thinner than most Trichocereus species. 

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Bright blue skin, yellow spines are thin.

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Hairy aerolas are common for mature Pilos.

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#5 - Lophocereus / Pachycereus species

Pachycereus got merged into the Lophocereus genus this year!? Wacky, but they still get confused with San Pedros so here are the common ones. 

L. Marginatus is the Mexican Fence Post cactus. The size and profile are very similar to San Pedro. The easiest way to distinguish a fence post is by their unique vertical stripes. I stead of separate areoles, you will notice white stripes that run the length of the plant. Unhealthy plants will lose the white wool, but upon a close inspection, you can see the line of spines. The flowers are also small and more similar to Pilosocereus flowers.

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Elongated areoles form vertical white stripes.

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Truly columnar, branching at the base. The fence post cactus.

L. Schottii is another common columnar. Especially in the Phoenix metro area, you will drive past hundreds of the monstrose form. The totem pole cactus slightly resembles a monstrose Trichocereus. The exaggerated lumpiness and absence of descernable ribs or areoles makes a totem pole pretty easy to spot. 

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It is super common to see large stands of the Totem Pole Cactus in Pheonix.

The non-monstrose form of L. schottii is actually less common. Adults look similar to an extra spiny Cereus or L. marginatus. Juveniles look more like the juvenile Polaskia and Stenocereus species.

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#6 - Stenocereus and Polaskia species

Polaskia chichipe can look very similar to San Pedros. The best way to discern a polaskia is by the ribs and spines. The ribs will be thinner and more acute than Trichocereus, but wider than Cereus. They usually have 6-8 evenly spaced radial spines, and one long central spine. Although the spination is similar to T. peruvianus, the central spine of a Polaskia will be more oval shaped instead of needle-like. Adult plants usually branch freely from higher up. Juvenile plants often have a grey, striped farina that disappears with age. This makes them hard to discern between Stenocereus and Lophocereus juveniles, but it is easy to tell it apart from a Trichocereus.

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Acute rib shape and silvery farina.

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Acute ribs, fanned spines, with one long central.

Polaskia chende - Is this a recognized species? Who knows, but if it is, the discerning characteristics are the same as P. chichipe, except the central spine is less noticeable.

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Stenocereus - There are a few Stenocereus species that can be easily confused for San Pedros. Juvenile plants look very similar to Polaskia. Stenocereus varieties such as S. aragonii, S. eichlamii, S. griseus, etc get a grey farina that usually forms Chevron patterns. S. beneckei gets a silvery white coating too.

Mature plants will look very similar to San Pedros. The identifying traits to look for are the acute rib angles, spination and silvery farina that often appears in narrow chevron patterns. The flowers are also more similar to Lophocereus spp.

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Acute rib angles, and silver chevron stripes on S. aragonii.

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Baby S. griseus looking similar to the Polaskia.

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#7 - Browningia hertlingiana

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 Brownies are beautiful blue plants that can look similar to Trichocereus peruvianus or cuzcoensis. The ribs are the defining traits to look at here. The ribs of a Browningia are wavy instead of straight. Mature plants will often have more than 8 ribs, which would be uncommon for most Trichocereus species.

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Bright blue farina, long yellow to grey spines, and wavy ribs.

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Mature plants often have more than 8 ribs.

#8 - Echinopsis?

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Is a Trichocereus an Echinopsis? Yes. Is an Echinopsis a San Pedro? Sometimes. Most folks consider the San Pedro group (along with a few other species) too different from other Echinopsis and Lobivia species to lump them together into the same genus. Just because they have hairy flowers and can fertilize each other, should they be in the same genus?

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Echinopsis species are usually shorter, pup from the base, and have more ribs. There are many different clones and hybrids that are prized for their colored flowers. Where most Trichocereus have white flowers instead.

E. Spachiana - The Golden Torch

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Echinopsis Grandiflora "Sun Goddess"

Echinopsis x Trichocereus hybrids do exist, and they are getting more popular. Should they be treated as the same genus? Who cares if they are awesome plants.

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If your plant doesn't match any of these, feel free to post an image (or a poll) and see what the community can come up with.

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Cheers!


r/sanpedrocactus • • 17h ago

Lumpia scop

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And also Lumpia next to other lumpy clones in the garden


r/sanpedrocactus • • 9h ago

Little tbm button grafted to Kate's bridge took on the spiny characteristics of the Kates. Am I imagining things?

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r/sanpedrocactus • • 11h ago

Picture Nighty-night! Freeze coming tonight... time to tuck away for their annual rest.

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Decent growing season in NW Ohio this year. Everything needed uppotted this year but never got to it. Definitely many are outgrowing their pots. Had great success the last 2 seasons with putting everything dormant on an unheated 3-windowed porch in our old farmhouse. Sometimes plug in a space heater when we have stretches of subzero weather. I try to keep it around 40F all winter.


r/sanpedrocactus • • 10h ago

Photo's of some of my indoor cacti

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I've been collecting blues over the last year and thought I'd show some of them now growing in my main tent. I have a few more on my ISO list though that are proving hard to find (e.g. Serpent and Terrapin).


r/sanpedrocactus • • 2h ago

Picture First spines on this 10 days old T. pachanoi

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I got these seeds from Koehres Kakteen. They might be a little stressed, but they don’t seem to mind.


r/sanpedrocactus • • 14h ago

PNW Greenhouse Tour

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Been a great end of the season up here, very warm and dry. Got some bonus citrus shots to start it off. Just about all my tricho stock was seed grown 2 years ago. Got some real beauties in there. Going to keep most of these out through the winter. Happy growing.


r/sanpedrocactus • • 19h ago

Picture Tallest graft ever? For sure mine lol. Let’s see your giant rootstocks! :)

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r/sanpedrocactus • • 1h ago

Question Should I cut off the entire tip?

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Hi everyone! I have this cactus that is currently rooting and as you may see the tip has turned black. I already had to cut bits of 2 of the ribs due to (I think) rot but I came back for the others. The current spots aren't that soft but the color is concerning. Should I go ahead and cut the entire tip?


r/sanpedrocactus • • 10h ago

Title: Why is there no cactus festival in Colorado?

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Serious question.

Growing, using, and sharing San Pedro is legal for adults in Colorado. Has been since Prop 122 passed in 2022. No money for the medicine, that's the main rule.

Plant shows exist for everything else under the sun. So why not this one?

Picture it: private land, growers bring their plants, swap cuttings and seeds all day — and at night, whoever wants to brews their own cactus. Your plant, your pot, your call.

I'd drive in for it. Would you?


r/sanpedrocactus • • 2h ago

Question Bought some T. Grandiflora seeds. This can’t be it right? Came up last night

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Too much light or they messed up my order? I’m a novice


r/sanpedrocactus • • 20h ago

Alberto's garden in Arequipa

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Alberto is and old og collector, the doit for the love to the cactus a unknown legend. The only clon that come out of his collection is the cv arequipa


r/sanpedrocactus • • 14h ago

BK08612.4 no3

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such close together spination for whatever reason


r/sanpedrocactus • • 8h ago

Anyone know the CV of these bananas 🍌

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I Brought a small cutting from a cactus fb group to graft a few years back the seller didn’t know the cv and since they have just multiplied


r/sanpedrocactus • • 8h ago

Follow up Grafting outdoor TBM HACK

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Finally something useful for random political signs lol


r/sanpedrocactus • • 19h ago

Picture Officially planting some stuff outside of the fenced in garden where it is a total roll of the dice if the Javelina wreck them or not

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Melty TPMS with that dripping candle wax thing going on. Planted in rusty soil.


r/sanpedrocactus • • 14h ago

Video Moved everything in for the year, here's a little tour!

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r/sanpedrocactus • • 18h ago

Germination for the nation

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Really content with Tpm x dr. funk and reverse germ rates .
the mutant x mutant cross is giving me consistent mutants in every batch.
My intent is to graft and flower a nice mutant pheno and the back cross with dr.funk for even higher mutant % .


r/sanpedrocactus • • 17h ago

Good for dormancy?

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Think this space will work for dormancy? Itll stay pretty cold, but there are lots of windows in this 4 seasons room. I did this last year, although I had a lot less plants so I could bring things outside when it was nice. Only other option is basement or cover this whole area with plastic to keep it dark.


r/sanpedrocactus • • 1d ago

This is a new account I was AustinL5 making post to get some karma so I can post in sales page. Here is some of my collection

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r/sanpedrocactus • • 8h ago

Question Rate my cactus mix?

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37% - 1/8" gravel (essentially course sand)

37% - 1/4" red lava rock

16% - coconut coir

~10% - perlite

I live in zone 8a Alabama. It stays humid here in the summer.


r/sanpedrocactus • • 17h ago

Picture First successful tbm graft! Also included the mother tbm

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r/sanpedrocactus • • 20h ago

Shooting Star

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Vari (Scop x Bridge) x Gawler from Angela Payne. Cactilicious seed. Nice undulation on ribs with the long spines.


r/sanpedrocactus • • 21h ago

Por fin un cachorro en mi TBM A

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