r/politics • u/phillygirllovesbagel I voted • 9h ago
Possible Paywall Zelenskiy Smiles as Entire EU Summit Laughs at Trump
https://newrepublic.com/post/216751/zelenskiy-smiles-eu-summit-laughs-trump-scapegoat695
u/CarbuncleMew California 9h ago
Trump temper tantrum in 3,2, 1...
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u/disdiq7 Texas 9h ago
20 years ago you couldn't have convinced me that we'd ever have a President who cries about everything and shits his pants in public every second day. So embarrassing.
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u/DonaldMerwinElbert 9h ago
Those things are bad, but I'm more concerned about the child raping and fascism myself.
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u/--Unxpekted-- 8h ago
The worst part is the hypocrisy.
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u/DTredecim13 8h ago
I disagree. I think it's the raping.
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u/Maatix12 5h ago
I want to say it's the raping, because the raping is so, so bad.
And yet, it's hard to ignore that in spite of the raping, so, so, so many of our elected congresspeople (nevermind citizens...) will defend him anyway.
The raping is bad. But the people defending and idolizing the rapist are worse.
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u/dr_obfuscation 6h ago
I mean, this guy is a real jerk!
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u/calgeorge 7h ago
Unfortunately with trump there's a lot to be concerned about and a lot we need to focus on.
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u/ThreeHourRiverMan 9h ago
And 36% of the country think he’s a “manly man” who gives a fuck about them.
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u/smack54az 8h ago
I could have been, GWB was a fucking embrassment and we've learned nothing since.
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u/insertUserNamehereno 8h ago
This is what kills me. I always thought the Emperor’s clothes was a stupid story as a kid cause the second I saw a naked man I’d ask why are you naked. Imagine a world leader actually shitting his britches and everyone just pretending not to smell shit.
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u/Hades_Mercedes Canada 8h ago
You want to see some pants shitting? Go anywhere and insinuate that America's problem isn't entirely Trump and witness some fucking pant shittery.
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u/King_of_the_Kobolds 7h ago
Redditors when you point out Epstein's bestie shouldn't be President but don't immediately follow up with ten thousand words of political theory about imperialist overreach from the USA from 1980 to the present
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u/ThaPhantom07 Nevada 8h ago
20 years ago we had Bush so its not like it was looking up at the time.
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u/Zulmoka531 8h ago
Watch him turn around and try to claim Zelensky is meddling with the elections.
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u/Taint_Liquor 9h ago
It completely scrambles my brain that maga folk still see him as a world-respected, tough guy leader. I can understand a lot of different view points, but maga makes no sense.
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u/Practical-Object9298 9h ago
They don't see news like this. In the off chance they do see it, it's dismissed as lies from a liberal media.
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u/eskimoboob Illinois 7h ago
They’re starting to, especially now that the disaster is starting to affect them personally. I’m starting to see a lot more people that were die hard Trump fans not wanting anything to do with politics anymore. Not the same as fessing up and admitting the mistake, but if they just give up and don’t vote at all at least that’s something.
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u/GyattDetected 6h ago
No they aren't. "now that it's affecting me personally" only means they're temporarily upset. not enough for them to cease operations.
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u/Kind_Of_A_Dick 4h ago
They'll also yell at you from out one side of their mouth about how rude you are and then call your entire political ideology terrorism out of the other side of their mouth.
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u/tecdaz 9h ago
They're cultists. Every election average fats wail about being stuffed into concentration camps if the Democrats win then nothing happens except they get more healthcare, cheaper drugs, new bridges, overtime pay guarantees, faster internet, more jobs, less deficit, so they do it all next time
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u/Sea_Working_80 8h ago
Former Scientologist here.We were taught the same thing about Hubbard.Dear leader could do no wrong
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u/Kind_Of_A_Dick 4h ago
I remember reading articles about North Korean refugees. They'd talk about problems in the government but shy away from saying anything bad about Dear Leader because the cult programming was still so powerful. It was never his fault, always someone failed him.
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u/thebhguy9900 8h ago
Yup. Except now the Rs, not the Ds, really are disappearing citizens into concentration camps. Every accusation is a confession.
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u/turquoise_amethyst 9h ago
It’s because the right wing propaganda channels only show him as respected. The people watching it don’t know any better.
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u/thebhguy9900 8h ago
I thought about that, but those imbeciles all saw Jan 6th, they saw the one debate where Kamala made Trump look like a fool, because they were watching their Fuhrer. Ignorance is no longer an excuse.
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u/Gluverty Canada 8h ago
they claim the bad people on Jan 6 were antifa/democrat plants. and they don’t watch debates just highlites on fox and twitter
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u/Dry-Concentrate4291 7h ago
Lmao no. My cultist family saw that and were AGHAST that they were being so mean to him, and that's all they cared about
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u/turquoise_amethyst 5h ago
I know it sounds crazy, but… no, they didn’t. They saw snippets, and it was framed in a completely different way.
Propaganda is like a drug and hypnotism wrapped into one.
That being said, if they’re occasionally shown real examples and evidence of their Fuhrers full evil and corruption… they don’t care. They’re already conditioned.
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u/Important_Air6457 8h ago
People killed their own children for Jim Jones. Humans are remarkably easy to break mentally.
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u/Repulsive_Note_4209 8h ago
How about trumps spreading the fear of communism taking over the US . All while his best buddies are Putin, xi jing ping , and Kim jong un. all while free nations of the world laugh at Trump
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u/NelsonHawkinsGhost 8h ago
What?
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u/Present_Influence315 8h ago
Have you not seen MAGA ads (and Trump himself) yelling "Don't let the commies ruin America!!" etc etc.. ?
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u/Woalolol 7h ago
All the Republican ads keep comparing new age Democrats as communists. Even though hard evidence points at someone else
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u/NelsonHawkinsGhost 7h ago
What remotely makes Trump Communist?
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u/Existing-Return-5308 7h ago
The paranoia, the propaganda, and the demonization of sections of the american population?
I think even the maga faithful are at an east Germany wall moment, when just no one believes in the [trump show of] endless outrages.
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u/NelsonHawkinsGhost 7h ago
So your definition of communism is paranoia, propaganda, and demonizing the population'?
Under that definition, isn't the post-9/11 Patriot Act, the McCarthy Red Scare, and the Iraq War WMD media blitz were all communist..? Are you describing the everyday functions of the American capitalist state and calling it communism because you've been taught that capitalism can never be authoritarian?
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u/Existing-Return-5308 6h ago
Ask anyone in Poland what they dont like about (russian) communism (having lived it).
And what they dont want (back). Russian variation or American variation; it’s all the same to the victims.
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u/NelsonHawkinsGhost 6h ago
Uh.. I guess thanks for proving my point.. saying 'Russian variation or American variation, it’s all the same to the victims' kind of openly admitting that the American capitalist state uses the same authoritarian paranoia and violence as the Soviet empire... but instead of admitting that capitalism can be violent and authoritarian, you seemingly short circuited and invented the phrase 'the American variation of communism.'
You're just using the word 'communist' to describe anything bad a government does.
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u/Existing-Return-5308 5h ago
A fair enough.
It contrasts with racist authoritarianism (Brazil, Argentina, Paraguay) - with Stalinist-level (not communist) mass extermination of political opponents.
Then there is 1850s mexico, where america (and europe) invested in slavery (by another name).
Call it anything you like. We all know where american history lies.
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u/Instameat 7h ago
If every accusation they make is a confession on their part as it seems to always turn out.
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u/NelsonHawkinsGhost 6h ago
So then... if every accusation is a confession, then by accusing him of being a communist, aren't you just projecting your own communism onto him?
Aren't thought-terminating cliches fun?
Shouldn't it just be easier to admit the word communist has lost all meaning in American politics than to try and psychoanalyze a real estate mogul into being Marxist?
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u/Instameat 6h ago edited 6h ago
They have proven this to be factual in almost every case, I haven't. :)
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u/impasseable 7h ago
Dude... please use your critical thinking skills. It is extremely easy to understand the point. You got this!
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u/NelsonHawkinsGhost 7h ago
I am.. which is why I'm wasting my time trying to tease it out of this sub.. the American political spectrum is truly amazing. Republicans call corporate Democrats 'radical Marxists' because they want a 1% tax hike, and Democrats call Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin 'communists' because they saw a hammer and sickle in a movie once. Just two groups of people screaming the word 'commie' at each other without a single person in the room being able to define it.. all while the entire function of the modern Red Scare culture war is to act as a noise machine that drowns out the bipartisan consensus on empire.
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u/Leather_Force_9419 1h ago
They dont use words correctly, they just make words mean completely different things, like anything the government does that is bad is communism. I gave up trying to correct them along time ago
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u/imjustsurfin 8h ago
Hey! Hold on a minute!
He's "respected" enough to have a gold statue of himself at the European Parliament. 😄
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u/fatbunyip 7h ago
Because they hear sound bites (cut out of the hours of rambling nonsense) where he insults people and they think "yeah, no other politician says it like it is".
The thought that no other politician says it because they aren't puerile imbeciles doesn't cross their mind.
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u/Stimbes 8h ago
Most of them don't get news like this. They don't watch anything but Fox News or listen to the various extreme right pod casters.
On top of their filtered world view, they also simply don't believe anything negative about Trump. Also they don't care about the bad things that happen. All MAGA cares about is doing harm to the groups of people they hate.
Nothing else matters to MAGA. They found a version of authority that allows them to do harm to the groups of people they hate. This is how they went from "don't tread on me" to "no one will get hurt if you just show them your papers and comply."
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u/caserock 9h ago
They never see reality. They live in a curated fantasy land where the news never happens.
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u/GyattDetected 6h ago
Listen, there's an old adage out there that goes like this:
Stop giving bugs the time of day. Bugs are bugs, they respond to stimuli.
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u/fr0z3nf1r3 6h ago
They only watch news that shows him as a respected leader. Everything else is fake.
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u/FU_red-dit_bots 5h ago
They have no choice. They hung on so long they don't have a way out. If he goes down they do too. If they speak out against home they go down for speaking out of turn.
The the most bitter, awful, horrible, self centered, privileged jr high girl clique. That's what your watching from the leaders of the US right now.
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u/LostManufacturer1553 5h ago
They don’t care, they are just arrogant and think people hate them because they are the world police.
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u/Vegetable-Noise4518 2h ago
If your only news source is Fox News you’ll never see anything negative. These people will never admit they’re wrong
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u/LilaTheMoo 8h ago
Remember how Trump used to say the world was laughing at us when Biden was president? Yeah, I don't recall ever seeing that in action, but we see it every day while he's president.
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u/BWander 6h ago
Specially, the second time around. The first years it was an anomaly, but the second term has been absolutely crazy to watch as a foreigner with some love for your country. From the top influence of the western world to a laughing stock, no offense, to a possible threat. I have never heard a single person outside of the US say anything good about your current president.
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u/allgamer101 4h ago
I will say this: it will be because of Trump that China and Russia will be one-up'ing us. Trump will be the reason America will be destroyed.
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u/VanceKelley Canada 3h ago
trump was given the power to destroy America by 69% of the American electorate. Only 31% opposed his election to the White House.
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u/Infamous-Sky-1874 Illinois 7h ago
Conservatives said the same thing when Obama was in office.
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u/MichJohn67 3h ago
Since I started following politics and reading theory back in '82, I notice one truism that's never steered me wrong: When a conservative says anything, the opposite will always be true.
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u/Confident_Foreverr 9h ago
He cuts deals with Russia, withholds intel from Ukraine and then wonders why Europe laughs at him. Pathetic.
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u/OP_Glorfindel 9h ago
And that our President folks, a global punching bag. Cause he is really is that weak.
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u/Punch_Up 9h ago
You still got some friends, I guess. It's just the biggest baddest source of munitions and weapons on the planet is now funding the other guy. This sucks
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u/Ok-Professor-Star 9h ago
Well America is working hard to destroy its own weapons industry... fewer countries than ever now wants to buy American.
Canada just cancelled an order for Black Hawks helicopters, might curtail its order of F-35 in favor of the Swedish Gripen, provided SAAB is able to replace the current American engine with a British or French one, which they are currently doing.
Germany, France, Italy and Spain are racing to build a replacement for the Patriot missile system.
European space industries are one the cups of having a replacement for Musk's Starlink.
Even America needs to order warships from South Korea...
The days of America hegemony over the world are over.
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u/thebhguy9900 8h ago
No need for Canada to buy F-35s that the Fuhrer next door can disable when he gets grumpy and decides to attack you. EU would be wise to cut ties with Starlink for the same reason.
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u/AliceLunar 7h ago
All it does is ensure that won't last, Europe is re-allocating their resources to their own industry and surely all those friends America has in the Middle-East aren't eager at this point to continue to put their eggs in America's basket either
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u/Shot_Squash_9772 7h ago
Remember the first time he went to the UN to speak and they laughed at him? They never stopped.
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u/Fantastic_Prettyy 9h ago
Zelensky didn’t even have to say anything. The EU did the work for him. That’s how low he’s fallen.
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u/imjustsurfin 8h ago edited 8h ago
Ouch!
That's gonna leave a mark!
Cue social media mango menace meltdown in 5..4..3..
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u/NoMamesMijito Canada 2h ago
Don’t forget that this legend was also just a TV star before he became who he is today. One TV star is out there physically and diplomatically fighting for his country and the other is shitting his pants and blowing smoke up his own ass. Prob why Donnie Diapers hates Zelenskyy so much
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u/mymar101 2h ago
Trump is the single biggest world destablizer at the present. Followed closely by Musk.
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u/RazielDune 7h ago
ah such a loser, cant wait for him to be tossed out and he runs to north korea or some country who wont extradite. prediction hat
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u/RUser40k 2h ago
Trump doesn’t understand because of him he now has enemies on all 4 sides Canada to the north Mexico to the South china to the west and the eu/ nato to the east we have a nato ally bordering him so we have a staging post the u.s is alone and 3/4 of the world would be happy to see them fall 1 less powerhouse for them to deal with
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u/Pristine_Albatross36 9h ago
Please don't laugh at him or give him any type of external reason to even more so align us with Russia.
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u/SewCreative 1h ago edited 1h ago
You treated neurolink & starlink like a toy, dumped all you're wheat, hid javilin missles in wheat taxes and front line advantage covid for dogs to get new consoles. You walk around like chernoble is the 8th world wonder and the world should be dumping funds over henry fords metal loom. Snuke'm then you won't be shunned by america. Till then kim jong un and vlad are church blowing up kid killers...We'll take it from here.
p.s. veitnam is an american docking port full of experimental deisel for new abrams...never shun us again. all american embassasys pinged 8 potental assassination attempts on vlad on his way into north korea. Everytime I think about the ukraine war...I stop and think about a treasonious flag america accepted and your second seat at the UN hanging in the balance of the UN's cosolidation of croatia...then there's tinsel town feling new generations of islamic warlords and i stop and say...
lets get the fuck out of here...I had to drop ac 130 wings for 105 jeruisilum hostages - 1 from setting himself on fire and 189 from 8 of your worst weddings. The warner brothers flew out anistasia and now she's some stormy daniels dopple.
Meanwhile the pentagon finally opened its eyes to 'operation bedtime story' where vlad was targetting homes based upon your citizens stuffing money in matresses...War is war zellisky. Get it done. Oh and your people drone struck our president, that was cool.
Played Final fantacy 8. found church full of dead kids & an north korean plot. Now what?
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u/lex99 America 4h ago
Zelenskyy is playing this wrong. He needs Trump for weapons. Trump doesn't need him for anything (since he doesn't care about Russian aggression).
Zelenskyy should be publicly praising Trump, and (yes) bending the knee.
Is that right, fair, or good? Of course not! But it's reality.
Clamp down on your ego and anger and (rightful) feeling of betrayal, and just say out loud how smart and strong and respected Donald Trump is, and he'll give you the missiles you need. And we'll do the best we can to vote him out in two years.
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u/Demalab 4h ago
Trump is a bully and with bullies you can never win giving in. As a Canadian our PM is handling Trump perfectly.
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u/lex99 America 1h ago
I don't understand how or why you're comparing Ukraine to Canada.
Ukraine needs US missiles or they may fall. And Trump will block those missiles if he does not get public praise and respect from Zelenskyy.
You seem to be saying that Ukraine should rather be crushed by Russia, than to "give in" to the bully Trump by kissing his ass. Bizarre.
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u/deepbluemeanies 4h ago
I don't think he'll be laughing if the US was to pull all ISR (etc) and leave it all to Europe/UK.
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