r/politics • u/alktrio06 • 10h ago
Site Altered Headline | Possible Paywall Katie Zacharia, Trump’s New Press Secretary, Is Fired After 5 Days
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/10/16/us/politics/katie-zacharia-fired-press-secretary.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share6.7k
u/Big_Mitch_Baker Arkansas 10h ago
She out-Scaramucci-ed Scaramucci. Only the best and brightest, right?
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u/NationalMyth 10h ago
Half a mooch!
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u/cityexile Great Britain 9h ago
To translate for fellow Brits…about one third of a lettuce.
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u/confused_ape 9h ago
One fifth.
Truss lasted 49 days, Scaramucci 10 days and now Zacharia 5 days.
There seems to be some debate about whether S was 10 or 11 days.
So I propose we just call it 50, 10 & 5 for simplicity.
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u/CarlosFer2201 Foreign 8h ago
A metric mooch is 10 days. The imperial one is 11.
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u/RazarTuk Illinois 9h ago
I'm seeing that Truss stepped down on her 50th day, September 6th - October 25th. So at least if you count both the start and end dates, a Zacharia is 5 days, a Mooch is 11 days, and a Truss is 50 days or exactly one dekazacharia
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u/Cmdr_Shiara 9h ago
This is the UK and the USA, having nonsensical unit sizes is part of our DNA. Leave metric political timelines to the french.
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u/RazarTuk Illinois 9h ago
Actually... they're fairly normal. If you count their first and last days, a Truss is 50 days, a Mooch is 11 days, and a Zacharia is 5 days or exactly one decitruss. Which honestly feels just inconvenient enough to be hilarious
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u/mindspork Virginia 10h ago
One Mooch is divisible into two Katies now.
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u/addandsubtract 9h ago
Trump not only gave us SI, but also new SI units.
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u/DrNopeMD 9h ago
Wikipedia has already been updated to include a Zachariah as an unit of measure haha
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u/BethanyHipsEnjoyer I voted 10h ago
We doin it in Katies now, boys!
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u/FaceDeer 9h ago
One Katie is 0.454545... of a Mooch.
And people wonder how the Imperial measurement system got where it is.
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u/duvie773 9h ago
.45 repeating is very fitting for yet another horrible hiring by the 45th president
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u/eopanga 10h ago
The fact that people still support this clown show of an administration will never cease to amaze me. It's a collection of grifters, con artists, scammers, vultures, and incompetents. These are the people they want leading our country?
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u/REpassword 10h ago edited 10h ago
“If they let me hate others, yes!” - MAGA
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u/Hollownerox 10h ago
The funniest part is that nobody was really stopping them from hating others before this. They just felt like they couldn't share their hate openly because people would, rightfully, shame them for it. But there was nothing actually stopping them from doing so prior.
So these weirdos let obvious crooks run the nation's soft power and nigh unchallenged global leadership position into the ground, because of imagined victimhood.
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u/LuvKrahft America 9h ago edited 9h ago
I think a good number of them thought Hate Crimes were going to be legalized. It’s crazy how many local idiots have been arrested for threatening or straight up assaulting people (all while yelling xenophobic MAGA shit) with that “but why are you arresting ME” look on their faces.
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u/JnnyRuthless 9h ago
I mean, in some ways they have been legalized. In the city I'm in there've been a lot of hate crimes and the police just never seem to get around to investigating them. And this is in "commie" CA. Wonder why.
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u/ithinkyouresus 8h ago
I mean ICE is a legalized hate crime organization with a signing bonus
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u/IamDDT Colorado 9h ago
"If you can convince the lowest white man that he is better than the best colored man, he won't notice you are picking his pocket. Hell, give him someone to look down on, and he'll empty his wallet for you!" - LBJ
People say Trump is a poor man's idea of a rich man, and a weak man's idea of a strong man. This is exactly correct. His supporters are either billionaires, or poor and weak. He tells them that they are "better" than the Brown Horde(tm) that is coming to rape their dog and eat their daughter, so they love him, and throw their money at him.
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u/Data_Chandler 10h ago
Magoids want others (the people they hate) to suffer. That's literally all it is.
To quote LBJ:
"If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."
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u/Particular-Guess734 9h ago
My favorite quote is “MAGA would eat shit if it meant a liberal had to smell his breath”
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u/afipunk84 California 10h ago
LBJ had their number for sure. And whats fucked is that literally nothing has changed since then.
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u/hollaback_girl 9h ago
The authoritarian/fascist playbook is maybe 2 pages and it hasn't changed in 1,000 years.
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u/eamonnanchnoic 10h ago edited 10h ago
As long as the liberals get pissed it works.
A huge contingent of the US have a serious case of terminal inadequacy and need others to suffer to avoid dealing with their own nonsense.
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u/Electronic_Film_2837 10h ago
Also Trump has completely normalized GOP completely lying about everything and acting as immorally as they want.
Who cares if the world tanks when you can just lie that’s it’s great
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u/DrunkCorgis 9h ago edited 3h ago
It’s the result of half a century of Republican propaganda:
“The most dreaded words in the English language: ‘we’re from the government, and we’re here to help!”
“Government doesn’t fix problems, government IS the problem!”
“I want to shrink government to size it can be effectively drowned in a bathtub.”
“Both sides are the same!”
It’s all bullshit that trained Reagan’s GOP, the Tea Party, then MAGA, not to expect anything from either party. The Dems are reviled for wasting money on healthcare and education, and the GOP doesn’t need to deliver anything, telling their voters that they are in on the joke, and cutting costs is in their best interests.
Cutting benefits, that is, while pushing tax cuts for the rich, more military spending, corporate bailouts. and golden ballrooms.
And red states buy it every fucking time. Guess there is a benefit to cutting education after all. /s
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u/TunaNoCrust811 10h ago
What a fucking joke this administration is
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u/Efficient_Carrot_669 10h ago edited 9h ago
This is one of the funniest jokes they’ve had all year. A fake lawyer who can’t stop doubling down on how she isn’t. For the next press secretary we should do a fake doctor or a fake scientist or something, just to keep the laugh riot going.
Edit to add: we certainly should not see a qualified public relations or communications professional in this role! I want clowns, and clowns only.
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u/IDoLikeMyShishkebabs 10h ago
Dude it'd be so funny if they tried to bring in a health expert whose policy was centuries behind modern medicine and still pushed something wild like miasma theory, that'd be too on the nose though surely
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u/HittingSmoke 9h ago
AMERICANS HAVE TOO MUCH BLOOD! DRAIN SOME BLOOD AND GIVE THEM HEROIN MARTINIS!
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u/Beer-Me California 10h ago
Lucky for her, she has her career as an attorney to fall back on
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u/Ozymandias12 10h ago
I literally burst out laughing when the push notification came.
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u/Radiant_Spell7710 10h ago
One Zacharia is half a Scaramucci.
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u/Kuze421 10h ago
That's fuckin' brilliant, unlike Ms. Zacharia.
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u/Moostronus 9h ago
Being more brilliant than Ms. Zacharia feels like a pretty low Bar
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u/postmodern_werewolf 9h ago
Came here for this comment lol, was wondering how long five days were in terms of Scaramuccis
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u/nubsta 9h ago edited 9h ago
A mooch is 11 days so she didn't even last half actually. 0.45 mooches to be exact or 450 millimooches
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u/ElysiumMidknight 10h ago
It's simultaneously comical and pathetic. Trump's so obsessed with his IvankaBots that no one around him thought that her ridiculous legal "career" would be brought up. And no one seemed to be aware of whether she could handle public speaking since her first press briefing made it seem like a she was a child who was just learning to read.
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u/dychronalicousness 9h ago
I think her university credentials need to be reviewed. There’s no way in hell she got a law degree unassisted.
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u/simAlity 9h ago
IDK.... i have met some REALLY dumb lawyers
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u/-Ein 8h ago
I did grand jury. There was a guy in training / assisting the prosecutor that would do like 1/10 cases. I'm really not sure that guy could read, and he was totally unprepared. We'd fly through cases with the prosecutor, then he'd step out and let this guy do a couple and the whole process came to a complete standstill.
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u/MeepingSim 10h ago
I yelled "Not even a MOOCH!" then my wife and I cackled about it for a few minutes.
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u/Mustard_Gap Norway 9h ago
She made it on camera once. The Mooch was hired for ten days but did not do a presser. This is just off the top of my head, so my recollection of TrumpWorld dingbats might not be entirely accurate 😁
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u/finny_d420 10h ago
SNL skit will last longer than her tenure.
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u/hfpfhhfp 10h ago
The funny thing is she was worrying about how SNL would portray her, but didn't make it to Saturday!
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u/HorseThrough 10h ago
They should %100 pretend like they're about to do a skit about her then just fire her and move on.
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u/padizzledonk New Jersey 9h ago
Bring her put to the podium and say "Hi everyone my name is Katie--" and then yank her off the podium with one of those big vaudeville hooks as shes in the middle of saying her last name lmao
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u/Manny_Bothans 10h ago
The skit should be 10 seconds long.
They should put her on one of those bungee jump things where she bounces into the press room and then is yanked back out by the bungee.
Then everybody acts like it's totally normal and nobody mentions it and they move onto the next skit.
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u/lnc_5103 Texas 10h ago
Damn didn't even last like half of a Scaramucci!
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u/tekchic I voted 10h ago
Do we now have to change the unit of measurement to Zacharias? :D
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u/theMistersofCirce Vermont 10h ago
I propose that we hang on to the Scaramucci as a standard, recognizable unit. Kind of like how we use cups and pints even though smaller units like gills and drams exist too.
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u/jermleeds 9h ago
Seconded. Also, even apart from the fact that it's prior art, it's hard to beat the phonetic perfection of a "mooch".
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u/Lubernaut 10h ago
.3401 Scaramucci
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u/Raeezordazetoo 10h ago edited 8h ago
For those British among us, 1 Scaramucci is 1/5 of a Truss. Or rather 5 Scaramuccis make 1 Truss. Making a Zacharia approximately .068 of a Truss. If my math is correct. Imperial to Metric conversion is always my weak spot.
Edit to add: Making this post reminds me of this... er... gem? Oldie but... goodie? Not entirely comfortable calling it that, but those of you with a darker sense of humor should get a chuckle out of it:
https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comments/dlu96/new_si_unit_one_hitler/
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u/GotMoFans 10h ago
Didn’t she just move her whole family from California?
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u/Hour-Ad-9508 10h ago
She said they were going to but it’s highly unlikely they have already. Her husband came out with her on Sunday according to her and then went back to CA.
Very hard to sell your house and find a new one within a week
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u/mashem 10h ago
Very hard to sell your house and find a new one within a week.
Not if you do it with energy and excitement.
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u/xdsm8 10h ago
I thought I heard "going to" move but hadn't yet. I can only imagine those conversations with her family...such bright eyed excitement for "a new chapter" in life, and yet zero actual qualifications or capability.
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u/_bk_adv Colorado 10h ago
Did that family include the husband and the one child she forgot she had?
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u/Important-Tomato2306 10h ago
Oh so when she referred to her husband as Trump, that was because she actually has a husband and not just the fantasy.
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u/coffeemonkeypants California 10h ago
Half a mooch.
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u/bejammin075 Pennsylvania 10h ago
I saw a clip of Mooch yesterday. He predicted that Zacharia would last longer than one mooch
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u/tinydancer_inurhand New York 10h ago
I think because it seemed like Trump gave her a vote of confidence yesterday but completely flipped today.
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u/oobbyb_61 10h ago
That’s less than a single Scaramucci.
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u/JustHomer68 10h ago edited 9h ago
If he fired her for lying about being a lawyer then he should be fired too. He stood up there and told us all she was a lawyer.
Edit: if she was fired for lying about passing the bar there are ways to easily vet that lie.
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u/spleeble 10h ago
He fired her for awkward moments on camera. If she had just yelled at everyone and blamed the liberal media she would still have a job.
Lying is not something he fires people for.
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u/cavmax 10h ago
True, lying was literally her job...
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u/Sturmgeshootz 9h ago
Scaramucci himself was talking about that on his podcast the other day, how Leavitt was really good at standing up there and confidently and enthusiastically telling lie after lie after lie, and Zacharia stumbled over the need to be able to do that almost immediately and that she likely wouldn't last very long. Even he is probably surprised that she didn't even last half a Mooch though.
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u/g0kartmozart 10h ago
She also read the “with enthusiasm” note in her script by accident and then didn’t improvise to make it seem intentional.
You’re allowed to be dumb, but you have to always double down on your mistakes.
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u/OYB2480 9h ago
That was funny, but Trump has done something similar. Rubio passed him a note saying to go back to another topic (because he was rambling) and HE READ IT OUT LOUD.
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u/aaronhayes26 10h ago
She didn’t get fired because she lied, she got fired because she embarrassed him
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u/lvnlrg831 10h ago
I think he fired her cause she is embarrassing him. He worries more about optics than actually facts.
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u/IThinkImDumb New Mexico 9h ago
He fired her for not being a Karoline Leavitt. Like her or hate her (I do NOT like her), she was an incredible press secretary...for THIS administration. Female version of Trump, with the lies, insults, aggressive tone, etc. Her press conferences were not to inform the public, it was to praise Trump while insulting those who didn't like him.
I work in media/public relations and know a bit about this. Katie reads off of a paper, even when she speaks about things that should come "straight from the heart." Leavitt barely looked at a paper, and I'm willing to bet it wasn't a script, but bulleted talking points. Katie reading word for word from the paper leads to her awkward phrase breaks. A phrase or clause should never be broken up. If she can't finish the sentence on her own after just looking at the beginning for a brief moment, then she doesn't know the material. When she uses hand gestures, she is looking down. Using a hand gesture should coincide with directly looking at the audience.
It's weird because when she was answering questions, she totally had the ability to look up and answer the questions without reading her papers.
One more thing, when asked a question that you don't know the answer to, it's totally legit to say that you will get back to that person. However, the few times Karoline Leavitt was asked a question she didn't know the answer to, she did one of two things:
-insult the reporter for asking a stupid question
-begin and end her answer with a Trump message. For instance, I don't remember any specific questions, but let's say she didn't know details about the Trump phone. Instead of saying, "I'll have to get back to you on that," she would say something like, "We are all excited about faster data speeds, improved range, and cheaper monthly cost that Trump Mobile will bring to every American. I look forward to providing more information for each exciting updates. But I can say this, I've spoken with the developers and I can tell you, Trump Mobile will be the best plan out there on the market. Mr. President selected the best minds for the job, and I wouldn't be up here if I didn't trust him."
I made up the last scenario but it's an example of the BS that Trump wants to push
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u/VladtheInhaler999 10h ago
This cult administration has another blonde woman, under 35, that kinda resembles ivanka Trump waiting on the sidelines anyways
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u/I_only_post_here I voted 10h ago
There's always blondes the kinda resemble Ivanka in the banana stand
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u/njintau_fsd 10h ago
New unit of measurement:
1 Zacharia = 0.45 Scaramuccis
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u/disastermarch35 10h ago
Fucking Imperial measuring system doesn't make any sense.
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u/Starbucks__Lovers New Jersey 10h ago
What’s the conversion between Zacharias and Scaramuccis?
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u/placeinspace 10h ago
1 Scaramucci = 235 hours, 11 minutes (14,111 minutes). Zacharia lasted approximately 109 hours, 37 minutes (assuming a midnight start on October 12 and ending at 1:37 PM on October 16). That puts her tenure at 0.4661 Mooches, or roughly 46.6% of a Scaramucci.
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u/TheManWhoShotTheMan 10h ago
If you convert this to the UK Truss. It works out as. 1 Truss = 49 days (1,176 hours / 70,560 minutes). Zacharia lasted approximately 109 hours, 37 minutes (6,577 minutes, assuming a midnight start on 12 October and ending at 13:37 on 16 October). That puts her tenure at 0.0932 Trusses, or roughly 9.3% of a Truss. The lettuce would still be crisp. Metric edition: 1 Truss = 4.23 megaseconds Zacharia = 394.6 kiloseconds (0.395 Ms) Fun fact: 1 Truss ≈ 5.00 Mooches, so the Scaramucci is effectively a Fifth of a Truss. A Scaramucci is a 200 millitruss (mTr) unit. So Zacharia clocks in at 93.2 millitrusses. (Uses the full 49 days in office, 6 Sept–25 Oct 2022. If you go by the resignation announcement on 20 Oct, a Truss is 44 days and Zacharia rises to about 10.4% of a Truss.)
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u/thecloudcities 10h ago
I think we can round up to 50% and call it a Halfamucci.
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u/dyslexicsuntied North Carolina 10h ago
A Zachariah is 5 days, a Mooch is 11 days. Personally I’d call it the Zachamooch
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u/bejammin075 Pennsylvania 10h ago
That's the Imperial Mooch, but you could use the 10-day Metric Mooch. Then a Zacharia would be exactly 1/2 Mooch.
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u/Significant_Cup_238 10h ago
I thought a Metric Mooch was 45 days, and colloquially referred to as a Truss?
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u/dvsmith North Carolina 10h ago edited 10h ago
Is the Zachariah the new SI unit of measure?
1 Scaramucci = 2.1 Zacharias
1 Liz Truss = 8.4 ZachariasEdit: I suggest that 5 days = 1 Zheesh
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u/SnarkOff 10h ago edited 10h ago
Understanding Trumpian units of time
1 Zacharia = .5 Scaramucci = 5 days
Eventually = infrastructure* week = never happening
it's very disappointing SNL is off this week.
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u/Twisbi 10h ago
The fact that they’re firing her because she lied about being a lawyer but not because she can’t read is wild
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u/zchatham 10h ago
Is that the official reason theyre going with? Because it seems pathetic to claim the white house cant do a background check as well as a bunch of reporters and tik tok creators.
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u/Impressive-Cause42 10h ago
Seriously?? Wow, trump sure knows how to hire the best!!
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u/imjustnatek 10h ago
If they're not careful, they're gonna run out of blondes.
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u/mabhatter 10h ago
And they used all the hydrogen peroxide on the reflecting pool. Gonna be hard to find soon.
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u/OkBrilliant8092 10h ago
So 9 zacharia’s equals 1 Truss for those doing metric conversions for UK. Wow
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u/rainonmepanda 10h ago edited 10h ago
comedy gold. Cant even do a good skit if real life is funnier than one could ever be.
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u/travio Washington 10h ago
No SNL this week. She will have come and gone before they could even send up her horrible first and only press briefing.
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u/NerdySongwriter 10h ago
Made it half a Scaramucci.
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u/Rich_Housing971 Mexico 10h ago
Before: "Zacharia is going to last how many Scaramuccis?"
After: "Scaramucci lasted two Zacharias."
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u/CrazyHorrsee 10h ago edited 10h ago
What happens when you do no actual vetting and just put someone who "looks good on tv" as press secretary.
Poor Katie really thought this was her path to a Fox News anchor lol
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u/luv2ctheworld 10h ago
Jeez. The SNL writers gonna have to go into overtime for this. To be fair, they've had to since 2016.
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u/cdglasser 10h ago
I'd argue it's the opposite. This stuff all writes itself - there isn't much they have to do, except maybe make it a little more believable.
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u/film_composer 10h ago edited 9h ago
The administration steers the conversation by taking yet another loss that fundamentally has no real consequences. But hey, we have a new character to laugh at instead of talking about the millions of examples of corruption.
EDIT: It’s not about preventing you from thinking about more than one story at the same time. It’s about diluting your attention as much as possible.
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u/-Debugging-Duck- 10h ago
I like it when people defend Trump and say that he fires so many people because they are not doing a good job and forget that Trump is the one who picked them in the first place. They are basically admitting that he is terrible at picking anybody for positions.
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u/SnoopyisCute 10h ago
High turnover means bad leadership but they can't process that about Dear Leader.
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u/MissionCreeper 10h ago
I guarantee her thought process when she took the job was "how hard could it be?" What a fucking idiot and this is an embarrassment.
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u/PabloPicasshooole California 10h ago
Now she has plenty of time to study for the bar exam
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u/Nautster 10h ago
Oh man, you know her name is going to be featured in pub quizzes 2 years from now.
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u/jeo123 10h ago
Wow, they joked she would set the record, but she really did it...
Good for her?
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u/Dreadpirate3 10h ago
We now have a measurement of time even shorter than a scaramucci.
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u/DankingtonMemesworth 10h ago
Seeing this on her wiki page is hysterical:
In office
October 12, 2026 - October 16, 2026
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u/newleafkratom 10h ago
..."Speaking as he was leaving the White House for a political rally in Georgia, Trump said Zacharia had been mistreated by the media and praised her as a loyal supporter.
But he made clear he did not believe Zacharia was suited to speak on his behalf as the government’s top spokesperson.
“Maybe it’s not for her,” he conceded...."
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u/Splodingseal 10h ago
It's too bad she scrubbed all her social media accounts of her simp content. Now what is she gonna do to get attention??
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u/Athleticsbaby 10h ago
This truly is a clown-car administration. I fucking hate clowns.
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u/biggles86 10h ago
Where's that guy i saw a few days ago that said she was only going to last .5 mooches. He's right on the money
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u/seaurchinthenet 10h ago
We have a new benchmark. A hot Zach is less time than a Mooch
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u/rainonmepanda 10h ago
I've got produce in the fridge that lasted longer than this lady
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u/MrFunktasticc New York 10h ago
Imagine being that bad at your job that you get fired after a single press conference where you take 3 questions?
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u/steve_french07 10h ago
I have a rotisserie chicken in the fridge that lasted longer than her
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u/iguanaman8988 10h ago
Pretty sure she didn’t get fired for being bad at the job as much as being the center of all that attention/negative press.
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u/bottom 10h ago
So why was she getting all that press ?
(She’s bad at the job)
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u/Whosebert 10h ago
lmao this is not a serious government, not that it wasn't evident before this
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u/TerrWolf 10h ago
How many Scaramucci's is that?
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u/Galevav 10h ago
Just under a half. One Mooch is 11 days. I've had avocados that lasted longer than this one.
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u/artificialterf 10h ago
Trump: “I don’t know her. Never heard of her. She was the coffee girl.”
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u/khalamar California 10h ago
When you are too incompetent for this incompetent administration, it's time to reconsider some things.
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u/TheNiamosDiscoBall 10h ago
It’s still crazy that this midterm is not a bigger blue wave
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u/Etzell Illinois 10h ago
We're still almost a full month out from results coming in.
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u/ATLfalcons27 10h ago
They are definitely going to frame this as being bullied out of a job
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u/LookWhatDannyMade 10h ago
The head of lettuce actually lasted longer… I’d say it’s unbelievable, except that it’s totally believable.
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u/agent_mick 10h ago
Is she actually done or are they just saying she should reconsider
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