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Soft paywall Elon Musk agrees to settle lawsuits over 2024 election lottery

https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/elon-musk-agrees-settle-lawsuits-over-2024-election-lottery-2026-10-15/
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u/Stefalumpagus 3h ago

Nothing is against the law if you’re rich enough. Just have to pay a tax to commit the crimes.

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u/RedPanda_Explorer 3h ago

Most importantly, pay a tax after you get what you wanted multiple years later.

The damage was already done.

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u/cptnamr7 33m ago

And arguably he would not only have NOT become a trillionaire had the other candidate won, but all those investigations doge killed would have led to, I mean we can at least HOPE, some actual consequences.  

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u/homiej420 32m ago

Nah even still then it probably wouldnt have changed much it woulda just been more fines. Not like before and after the election that system was working vs no longer

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u/SoDakZak 35m ago

5x to his net worth too

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u/Ohuigin 3h ago

“Land of the free.”*

*Results may vary. Check skin color and bank statements for details. Not all love will qualify.

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u/Asron87 34m ago

For how cheap you can buy a Republican it might as well be free.

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u/TheSteelBlade 2h ago

“If the penalty for a crime is a fine, then that law only exists for the lower class”

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u/fillinthe___ 2h ago

Or if you steal enough. Steal $50 million, pay $5 million for a lawyer, agree to give $15 million back.

Boom, you just legally got away with $30 million in profit.

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u/[deleted] 3h ago

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u/Sharp-Calligrapher70 2h ago

It falls under the GL Account “Cost of Doing Business”

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u/hijinked 3h ago

I agree, but these were civil cases.

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u/Stefalumpagus 3h ago

My point still stands.

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u/Gunningham 2h ago

Your point especially stands.

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u/DR_CONFIRMOLOGIST 2h ago

Can confirm

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u/TheG0AT0fAllTime 2h ago

A fee that is less than tax would be*

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u/Lunch-Thin 48m ago

That happens to be a miniscule fraction of the financial gain that was rendered from the illegal action.

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u/bobbymcpresscot 27m ago

Legal bribes as always. Someone sues, they don’t even try and fight it, they just pay a settlement, someone gets money and is happy, and the people who paid get to claim that they never actually did anything wrong because they weren’t convicted of anything.

“So then why did you pay any money?”

cease and desist letter

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u/vass0922 1h ago

He may as well wait a few months so he can pay the new lawsuits at the same time for the next election.

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u/Correct_Doctor_1502 3h ago

Committing election fraud shouldn't be something you can just throw money at

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u/techman710 2h ago

Also, an election isn't something you should just be able to throw money at. He is putting $168 million additional dollars into Texas to elect his fellow piece of shit Ken Paxton. We have to change the election funding laws.

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u/NoMorePorridge1 2h ago

Basically every campaign finance law since Buckley vs. Valeo in 1976 has been meaningless or a huge step in the wrong direction. While nominally limiting campaign contributions, it established the doctrine that spending money to influence elections is protected speech. That eventually led to weakening of meaningful campaign finance laws and eventually to Citizen's United in 2010 which effectively eliminated them.

Either a shit-ton of existing court decisions have to be reversed, or we need a Constitutional amendment saying that political contributions and spending to influence political campaign outcomes are not covered under the First Amendment. Americans mostly support the results of those things, but advertising to distort such measures would easily override the limited political understanding of most Americans.

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u/Groovicity 1h ago

Having money equal political speech means that those with more money have more speech than others. That point you made alone is the issue at its core. If rights are distributed simply by wealth, we basically have a cast system.

Not saying we already dont have hierarchical structure based on wealth and power, but establishing as legal precedent opened the door to this grotesque form of it we see today.

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u/Mans_Fury 3h ago

Elon is a shit-eating traitorous piece of trash.

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u/DR_SWAMP_THING 3h ago

And a warmongering pedophile.

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u/ManiaGamine 3h ago

Also, settling a lawsuit isn't an acquittal or sign of innocence. It's also not a sign of guilt but it leans far more that way than towards innocence.

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u/plaerzen 2h ago

Didn't trump say he didn't want Canadians interfering with the usa elections?

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u/redmambo_no6 1h ago

Elon is South African

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u/plaerzen 1h ago

And canadian

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u/Thawayshegoes 23m ago

As a Canadian, we do not claim him.

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u/Zakath_ 51m ago

And american. Gotta catch all of the citizenships!

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u/Deeppurp 2h ago

He's South African.

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u/Mykmyk 2h ago

Tripple citizen lol imagine what the right would say if Obama allowed a citizen of multiple nations slash the government. Shit imagine if Obama allowed Musk to do the same thing. They would loose their mind.

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u/Russian-Spy 2h ago

Not that I'm saying the Democratic Party is perfect, but all the more reason to despise what Moser Republicans have done. Virtually anything even remotely controversial Trump has done, I guarantee if Obama or Biden had done it, Republicans would be up in arms over it. The Republican Party are a bunch of hypocrites.

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u/cupidstrick 2h ago

Why, my good sir. I could not have expressed it more adequately myself.

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u/rolL_uP_one_more 3h ago

So he gets to “settle” for committing fraud. Fuck the rich

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u/Stefalumpagus 2h ago

Let’s eat em instead.

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u/Chrono_Convoy 3h ago

It’s just fraud people

It’s basically required to get where he is and plenty of other broken laws

At least I agree with what his son told Donny:

“You’re not the president and you need to go away”

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u/ztreHdrahciR 3h ago

Can he also tell his dad: "you are the president and you need to go away"?

Of course, Elong didnt stay away

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u/Fallouttgrrl 2h ago

These people will put up with any amount of insults if it gets them the power and attention they crave and they can be useful to equally powerful people

It's the only form of friendship they know

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u/Trying2improvemyself 2h ago

Don't forget the, "shut your mouth" I know I heard a toddler say to the sitting president. And that young of an age, he was only parroting what he'd been hearing.

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u/Enygma_6 1h ago

Ah, the wisdom of little Meat Shield. The only person willing to speak publicly to Dementia Don at a matching level of metal capability.

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u/showmenemelda 1h ago

I forgot about that episode of the Twilight Zone on Pennsylvania Ave. Dear lord

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u/khalamar 3h ago

That means the settlement wasn't high enough. Make a note for next time, in Texas.

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u/-kylehase 2h ago

Make it a percent of net worth.

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u/Enygma_6 1h ago

Start at 150% and go up from there.

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u/Mand125 1h ago

Wait, why does he get to settle?  Shouldn’t the people of the country get justice via a trial?

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u/tmac_79 1h ago

You can't settle a criminal prosecution (well, you can negotiate a plea deal. Different tho) you can settle a civil lawsuit.

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u/Traditional_Day_9737 32m ago

Because when you're a trillionaire you can throw pocket money at a problem till it goes away.

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u/DevilahJake 10m ago

Good thing he’s not a trillionaire

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u/Slyzxx78 3h ago

He's already interfering with this one.

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u/copyrider 2h ago

“Settle” = “Buy innocence”

This is a huge example of the correct answer to, “what is wrong with America?” Right now, the super wealthy run everything for their own personal gain with zero regulation.

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u/Penultimo_1 3h ago

Civil suits. Elon should still face criminal charges

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u/starrpamph 2h ago

I haven’t looked into this. But I have a feeling - it would be the equivalent of a regular person paying a fine of 12 cents.

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u/Eloquent_Redneck 2h ago

I gotta say he's really gotten his money's worth. Investing in regulatory capture is a pretty good investment when the government is full of corrupt yes men with no morals they won't sell down the river, often literally in the form of yet another superyacht

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u/goomyman 2h ago

No terms of the settlement?

Knowing this government it was probably 1 dollar and a promise to do it again.

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u/OverlordLork 2h ago

He wasn't being sued by the government here. He was being sued by individuals who were tricked into signing his pledge to enter the fraudulent lottery.

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u/haveanairforceday 2h ago

I dont agree. As an American voter i am the victim. I believe they are required to notify all victims.

I want this dude to do prison time for election fraud

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u/New_Housing785 3h ago

That's why they are taking reservations on a flying Tesla that won't ever make it to market. 5k to start and 245k in 45 days on a scam.

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u/Sharp-Calligrapher70 2h ago

Settle = Avoids Accountability 

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u/nilyro 2h ago

This is an immigrant I'd like to see deported.

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u/chriskot123 2h ago

Yet again, if you’re rich enough and the penalty is a fine, it’s just the cost of doing business

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u/UnfortunatelySimple 1h ago

If you have money the puts you in the 1%, then nothing should be a fine, everything should be a jailable offence.

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u/Jesus_Is_My_Gardener 3h ago

Shouldn't be about settling, he broke the fucking law. He should be in jail over it.

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u/UbiSububi8 3h ago

See him back to South Africa!

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u/ITMORON 2h ago

Piece by piece.

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u/burnmenowz 2h ago

No... You should probably lock him up so he doesn't do it again

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u/Shadowthron8 2h ago

Which is how rich people never actually gave justice. They literally pay for the privilege of breaking the law

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u/Stealthcatfood 2h ago

What a fucking weasel. 

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u/Skullsandcoffee 2h ago

I hope his dick falls off.

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u/Jskidmore1217 2h ago

So the punishment for buying votes is a fine??

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u/Woalolol 2h ago

So he's gonna pay like .0000001% of his monthly paycheck? Oh wow so great. Shows him

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u/ChiliFreetos 2h ago

We would all get 15 years for this.

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u/SimkinCA 2h ago

Pay a fine to crime. Anyone else goes to jail. That treasonous f?ck

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u/Constant_Ad_8028 2h ago

That's just "the cost of doing business" for people like him.

The rich write a system where a felony for the poor, is just a transaction fee for the elite.

If the people of the world will unite to end this madness and stop playing their rigged game of exploitation, then, liberty and justice for all won't be just for the rich, but truly for all.

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u/oblivious_human 42m ago

Why? Is it not a criminal act?

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u/DeepInTheSheep 17m ago

Not good enough. Criminal charges and deport him to Venezuela

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u/lancert 3h ago

Does "settle" mean long jail time?

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u/TehGoad 2h ago

0.9999999 trillion in fines. plz.

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u/PetrolHeadF 2h ago

Just the cost of business.

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u/showmenemelda 1h ago

I didn't pay attention enough 2 years ago, almost to the day. This scumbag was in the headlines and I ignored it because, FTG. But I'm afraid to open this.

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u/thehangryhippo 38m ago

You know for a country that has jerked itself off for its “democracy” for the last century… you’d think that we would take our democracy a little more seriously

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u/AlienInUnderpants 33m ago

Enough with fines. Prison time!

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u/Dramatic_Reserve5984 32m ago

Ah yes, justice was served....not. Nothing accomplished. Elon is richer, nothing has changed.

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u/whatswithnames 16m ago

What was the “settlement”, seriously?

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u/Joinusclan 6m ago

Sure let the rich asshole buy himself out again

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u/Skeeterdrums 3h ago

Isn't that the same as admitting guilt? 

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u/Positive_Mud952 2h ago

You’re thinking of accepting a pardon. Settling is saying, “I’ll pay this much if you agree to stop suing.” Many reasons you might do it, or accept a settlement, and it’s almost never justice, just a calculation that lawyers will eat more if you don’t. Oh, they’ll still eat some or all of your settlement too, make no mistake.

All that said, Elon is clearly guilty. Traitor’s the one I have a hard time with, even if he is a citizen … well, no, he is a citizen and therefore his actions make him a traitor. It’s just so obvious it feels like we should consider it enemy action.

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u/mistermeowowowow 3m ago

I think your first sentence should be “taking a plea deal” vs. accepting a pardon.