Hugo González gets away with a horrendous travel

[u/PastaCheed]

https://streamable.com/t0scx7

[u/AmericanDreamOrphans]

Philly broadcasters really said, “Get him a bus pass. No one should be allowed to walk that far.”

[u/LongBoiiTatum → u/AmericanDreamOrphans]

Lmao

[u/Designer_B → u/AmericanDreamOrphans]

If he said should have to walk that far it'd be my favorite broadcast line ever.

[u/AddisonsContracture → u/Designer_B]

(He did)

[u/heat_fan_]

Refs already in mid-season form

[u/cpt-teebs → u/heat_fan_]

And this sub is as well. Plenty bozos in this thread saying it was a legal gather step. Christ

[u/igotzquestions → u/cpt-teebs]

Anyone that defends this is an idiot. Who actually wants this level traveling in the game?

[u/DrUmarTheGoat → u/igotzquestions]

this sub gets pissy whenever TNT guys talk about traveling or carrying

[u/likwitsnake → u/cpt-teebs]

Can't blame them when you watch season after season of Giannas gathering the ball at the top of the key and walking it to the hoop. They probably think its normal.

[u/Instantcoffees → u/likwitsnake]

Most of the time, he genuinely does the gather step within the legal limit. He's very good at walking that edge and he takes massive steps, which makes it look illegal even when its not. Honestly, people who see this clip here and think it's a gather step are either woefully ignorant on the rules of the sport or just not too bright. The gather step really is not that complex or that flawed.

[u/gamesrgreat → u/likwitsnake]

At least Giannis can make that in 2 strides usually lol

[u/Chickachic-aaaaahhh → u/cpt-teebs]

Block anyone that defends this. Theyre bots.

Edit: Block Ok-Masterpiece-8253 for the love of the culture

[u/MeteorPunch → u/heat_fan_]

NBA Basketball is officially back!

[u/schooli00 → u/heat_fan_]

They can only focus on one thing. Was totally looking to see if there was a push off on that layup.

[u/Otherwise-Attempt326 → u/heat_fan_]

Oh you thought only the players were utilizing pre-season to get into form? Psssst

[u/igotzquestions]

Honestly, the first two steps are part of his natural gather step. Then the next three are a legal crab dribble. Then the Eurostep. And then yes, his last four after that are a travel. 

[u/TickTockM → u/igotzquestions]

You had me in the first half, ngl.

[u/PetalumaPegleg → u/igotzquestions]

I loled

[u/jld2k6 → u/igotzquestions]

Reminded me of that copypasta

"Steps 1-5 clearly missed..."

[u/arawnsd → u/igotzquestions]

Thank you. That was legitimately funny.

[u/Cipher-IX]

Gotta be one of the most egregious travels ive seen. How?

[u/kosmonautinVT → u/Cipher-IX]

He even looked at the ref for a couple seconds like "shit, are you gonna call that? No? Ok, whatever"

[u/entench0123 → u/Cipher-IX]

It’s like jazz, the player didn’t travel in the steps you didn’t see.

[u/SufficientPassage504 → u/entench0123]

I don’t think that how that works

[u/Artsakh_Rug → u/SufficientPassage504]

Well he’s no household name jazz musician like Roy Donk but…

[u/rchan9487 → u/entench0123]

I've always thought of basketball as a cosmic gumbo

[u/biggargamel → u/rchan9487]

You're right, shirt brother

[u/rchan9487 → u/biggargamel]

Promise me you’ll never do another rule.

[u/PoorMansPaulRudd → u/rchan9487]

Me and Hugo are always saying it's a cosmic gumbo.

[u/RevolutionCrazy7045 → u/entench0123]

giant steps 🎷

[u/TheGirthy1 → u/entench0123]

That sounds like a John Gruden play call

[u/Mrmdn333 → u/entench0123]

Giant Steps

[u/JK4711 → u/Cipher-IX]

Preseason is my best guess.

Did you not see Russ take a stroll to halfcourt with the ball cradled in his arm?

[u/namblaotie → u/Cipher-IX]

Russell Westbrook had one of the funniest, but it was actually called

[u/pmurt007 → u/Cipher-IX]

Gather steps

[u/just_one_random_guy → u/pmurt007]

That’s a gather run

[u/pm_me_whateva → u/just_one_random_guy]

He had to gather his gathers.

[u/TarnishedChoom → u/pm_me_whateva]

It’s gathers all the way down

[u/Superplex123 → u/TarnishedChoom]

Gatherception

[u/StudioGangster1 → u/pm_me_whateva]

A collection of gathers is called a Hank.

[u/Clever-Innuendo → u/pmurt007]

A gather skedaddle, if you will.

[u/MddlingAges → u/Clever-Innuendo]

Clyde, if he didn’t coin this, wishes he had. A vicarious hilarious punny funny if you will.

[u/-Kerosun- → u/pmurt007]

Well, the better explanation is that steps during a live dribble don't count.

So, the question always is "when could this player no longer legally continue dribbling the ball?" Because when that happens, the player gets two more steps after that, no matter how many steps were taken since the last dribble.

[u/IdidntrunIdidntrun → u/pmurt007]

gather marathon more like it

[u/dontgetitwisted_fr → u/pmurt007]

( Gather steps )²

[u/ftez → u/pmurt007]

Bro that was a gather line dance

[u/Mysterio7100 → u/pmurt007]

Agreed. 3 gather steps, and 2 zero steps. Completely normal.

[u/Gordo-- → u/pmurt007]

Every step is a gather step

[u/No_Conclusion9808 → u/Cipher-IX]

Not even for a bang out. Just a weak out two handed flush

[u/JF803 → u/Cipher-IX]

gAtHeR sTeP and PiVoT fOoT

[u/Icy_Steak8987 → u/JF803]

I'll never forget that old video of a ref explaining why Harden doesn't travel. They showed one clip of him clearly taking four steps, and then the ref explains why it isn't a travel...by reviewing a clip of him taking two steps and calling it a gather step.

EDIT: Found the video.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TvGayLBB2Sk

[u/Ok-Masterpiece-8253 → u/Icy_Steak8987]

A gather step is not limited to just one step. And if it is, it would be the absolute last step before the 1-2 begins. Again people exposing themselves for being NON-hoopers. I can take as many steps as I want as long as I haven't GATHERED the ball yet. That's what the GATHER STEP was invented for.

[u/LotsaKwestions → u/Cipher-IX]

Something something basketball move eurostep Taiwanese trio.

[u/Gold_Telephone_7192 → u/Cipher-IX]

Genuinely I think it was so slow and awkward the refs just weren’t sure what happened lol

[u/Incepticons → u/Cipher-IX]

They played it at the stadium like 15 times in a row lol

[u/Diabetesh → u/Cipher-IX]

Basketball is the most uncaring of their rules out of any sport. Wasn't always that way, but this decade it is.

[u/Fragrant_Falcon_1439 → u/Diabetesh]

The NBA is...

[u/bryanBFLYin → u/Cipher-IX]

That was his gather step(ssss) 😂😂

[u/jaydubbles → u/Cipher-IX]

He was in the process of "gathering" for seven of those steps. /s

[u/Ray_Bloody-Purrchase → u/Cipher-IX]

The gather step.

Oops, I meant gather steps.

[u/rainbowgeoff → u/Cipher-IX]

I can only guess cause it was a wide open break away, no one usefully close.

[u/RzaAndGza → u/rainbowgeoff]

Should be easier to follow the rules then

[u/DIKS_OUT_4_HARAMBE]

Which one is hardest to explain: a travel in the NBA, a balk in MLB, or a catch in NFL?

[u/BigDaddyD1994 → u/DIKS_OUT_4_HARAMBE]

Balk hands down. The rules are different based on the handedness of the pitcher

[u/DDukedesu → u/DIKS_OUT_4_HARAMBE]

1) You can't just be up there and just doin' a balk like that.

1a. A balk is when you

1b. Okay well listen. A balk is when you balk the

1c. Let me start over

1c-a. The pitcher is not allowed to do a motion to the, uh, batter, that prohibits the batter from doing, you know, just trying to hit the ball. You can't do that.

1c-b. Once the pitcher is in the stretch, he can't be over here and say to the runner, like, "I'm gonna get ya! I'm gonna tag you out! You better watch your butt!" and then just be like he didn't even do that.

1c-b(1). Like, if you're about to pitch and then don't pitch, you have to still pitch. You cannot not pitch. Does that make any sense?

1c-b(2). You gotta be, throwing motion of the ball, and then, until you just throw it.

1c-b(2)-a. Okay, well, you can have the ball up here, like this, but then there's the balk you gotta think about.

1c-b(2)-b. Fairuza Balk hasn't been in any movies in forever. I hope she wasn't typecast as that racist lady in American History X.

1c-b(2)-b(i). Oh wait, she was in The Waterboy too! That would be even worse.

1c-b(2)-b(ii). "get in mah bellah" -- Adam Water, "The Waterboy." Haha, classic...

1c-b(3). Okay seriously though. A balk is when the pitcher makes a movement that, as determined by, when you do a move involving the baseball and field of

2) Do not do a balk please.

[u/LeekOriginal1447 → u/DDukedesu]

I came for the came for the pasta and got all I could eat. Thank you!

[u/FE-TSOF8 → u/DDukedesu]

Without any knowledge of wtf a balk is in baseball. 1c-b(2) gave me all the info I needed. It’s a fake throw.

[u/MrBlowinLoadz → u/DIKS_OUT_4_HARAMBE]

NFL catches aren't really that bad anymore after they clarified the rule a few years ago

[u/noFOXgivenFURreal → u/MrBlowinLoadz]

Pass interference on the other hand…boy!

[u/SkiahDudeGuy → u/DIKS_OUT_4_HARAMBE]

Goalie interference in the NHL

[u/Brave_Pop_4476 → u/SkiahDudeGuy]

Every time I see one and try to predict the call it's the opposite.

[u/470_To_Left → u/DIKS_OUT_4_HARAMBE]

Travel is obvious, refs just don’t call it. An NFL catch has gotten better over the years to explain. Balks umpires still don’t know.

[u/Consistent_Detail_61 → u/DIKS_OUT_4_HARAMBE]

Balk, travel doesn't exist

[u/calculung → u/Consistent_Detail_61]

Which is why it's hard to explain

[u/Level_Ticket_9604 → u/DIKS_OUT_4_HARAMBE]

Balks aren’t as hard as people make them out to be, once you come set you either have to definitively make a move to the plate, over to a base for a pickoff attempt, or step off completely.

If you go to the base for a pickoff as a righty or lefty, your back foot has to leave the rubber first or the same time as the front foot on a pickoff when you’re going to second or the base behind you. If the front foot comes up first, that’s like saying I’m about to pitch the shit to the entire field. For a lefty to first or righty to third, they can’t go home and then over to first. It has to be one fluid motion, but the knee essentially can’t go forward to the plate first; once you begin to break that 90 degree plane from bringing your leg up and leaning forward, you have to go home with the pitch.

Your dominant foot or easier to say the one you will use to launch from the pitchers rubber has to be the one to leave first on a step off from the windup, or you’re making a move to the plate. Same principle for in the stretch, back foot has to come off first. These are fairly straightforward, and the most common that you see. You can’t break the windup or not pitch the ball, that’s also a balk. You can’t twist your body or make a jerky motion once you’re set, that’s also a balk. Some people like to give a little shoulder shrug to keep runners honest, but you can’t really do that either. You kinda have to be statuesque once you come set. Some people get away with a little movement, but for the most part you have to be still.

There are some really obscure ways to get a balk though, I can’t lie. Some are really weird rules from a bygone era, you won’t see them as often as a pitcher having a brain fart and forgetting to step off with their back foot first or trying to fool a base runner with an overzealous pickoff attempt. People been trying to cheat in baseball since it began in the 1800s, that’s why we got all these goofy rules.

[u/Its_a_me_marty_yo → u/Level_Ticket_9604]

Based on the fact that you had to use 3 whole paragraphs to explain it, its definitely not this

[u/Ohitsworkingnow → u/DIKS_OUT_4_HARAMBE]

Hardcore baseball fans don’t even understand balks fully, and not just because it’s open to interpretation, because it’s actually difficult to understand hard to see at all sometimes 

[u/This_Material9292]

Damn, if he can do this, I wouldn’t trade him for Giannis, either!

[u/Worried-Influence-37 → u/This_Material9292]

That shit was funny take your award

[u/Smokin_on_76ers_Pack → u/This_Material9292]

Fr. We should have traded for this mf instead 💀

[u/natural-situation420]

Nooo! That's not a travel. Why would you think.... it's because that's why.

[u/mattod98 → u/natural-situation420]

Noohhooo, whywouldyouthink

[u/throwsarerealz → u/mattod98]

I can hear this

[u/ThedoctorLJ → u/natural-situation420]

Youdontseehow? Let’s take a step back, let me try to be more clear

[u/rodrigo_c91 → u/natural-situation420]

lol

[u/BananaRepublic_BR]

Refs rarely call these travels on the fast break. They happen all of the time.

[u/Ok_Function2282 → u/BananaRepublic_BR]

I mean this is just a joke. You have to call that

[u/Ok-Entertainer9968 → u/BananaRepublic_BR]

I mean calling a travel on an uncontested fast break for consistency sake is lame but everyone and their mom is asking for consistency in sports so letting this go to not disrupt the flow of the game or because it was "inconsequential" is anti-consistency

[u/Ryab4 → u/Ok-Entertainer9968]

I don’t see why it’s lame. You’re about to get 2 free points. The least you could do is dribble the ball and earn it.

[u/Muffalope → u/Ok-Entertainer9968]

Its like in football when a person drops the ball celebrating right before they enter the endzone. They had an easy opportunity to score but blew it being dumb

example - uncontested fast break, flow of the game interupted and violations penalized

[u/Murasasme → u/BananaRepublic_BR]

Then let's just not have a rule book. Let's go DnD style and just do rule of cool, because wtf

[u/HeyItsBobaTime]

In what world is this not a travel? People out here smoking something or trying to look smart by claiming it's not. He literally took 4 steps after stopping his dribble and picking up the ball.

[u/Apprehensive_View575 → u/HeyItsBobaTime]

You’re just jealous i got the good weed

[u/TheBballs → u/HeyItsBobaTime]

NBA rarely calls the hall being under the ball as a gathering of the ball. Its whats happening here and shows up more commonly in missed carry calls

[u/No_Point904 → u/HeyItsBobaTime]

4 steps? I actually stopped count after 4.

[u/Lusty-Jove → u/HeyItsBobaTime]

He doesn’t actually touch the ball until step 4, so that’s a gather, then he takes two steps legally and the last one is a traveling violation. Still travel, but not horrendous

[u/chrish_o → u/HeyItsBobaTime]

Because all the little shuffle steps before the pick up are legal, then it’s three after that.

I don’t like the modern I nterpretation, but it’s a gather and two after the pick up.

[u/wellpebbles → u/chrish_o]

He had his hand under the ball before putting two hands on it. That should count as picking up the dribble and we count the steps after that

[u/Riley_ → u/wellpebbles]

Well carrying the ball stopped ending your dribble years ago.

[u/jbhoops25 → u/HeyItsBobaTime]

There’s always the travel apologist that sweat everything is legal

[u/argh123443211234]

Don’t tell Bill Simmons.

[u/MixOdd1418 → u/argh123443211234]

Ben Simmons would have passed this

[u/steebulee → u/MixOdd1418]

Bill

[u/MixOdd1418 → u/steebulee]

I stand by my statement

[u/Sharp-Selection-3541]

They were busy making sure he didn't push off. Easy mistake 

[u/djkhan23]

Your 6-8 grade league refs calls that 100% of the time.

How could the nba this happen?

[u/some1saveusnow → u/djkhan23]

Barely a real sports league at this point. We’ll see if they crack down this yr

[u/AdeptWelder3250]

I laughed my ass off watching this in real time. The ref literally ran up the court with him and decided not to blow that bih

[u/Instantcoffees]

Sometimes the NBA is a deeply unserious league. This is just beyond ridiculous.

[u/DustyBottomsRidesOn → u/Instantcoffees]

It's painful at times. What are we even doing here people?

[u/YouWasATerletBaby → u/Instantcoffees]

It's embarrassing

[u/guccisuede]

Everyone talking, rightly, about the travel but right at the beginning of the replay look at that hand under the ball when he’s dribbling. My Grade 8 coach would’ve crucified me for that.

[u/EUWannabe]

Celtics be like: "Why get Giannis when we have Giannis at home already?"

[u/sstphnn]

Damn, that’s a whole itinerary

[u/tisdue]

glad to see Philadelphia is still a walkable city

[u/Scoob8877]

They call him AA. It's a 12 step program.

[u/JK4711 → u/Scoob8877]

BANG

[u/jcwkings]

white privilege

[u/toolegit9999]

Why have rules when nothing is called

[u/TheMoorNextDoor]

This is disgusting.

This man just had a walk in a park.

He was listening to Jill Scott - A Long Walk.

[u/VermontPizza]

250 upvotes in 15 min lolol

[u/mafisch23]

Bill Simmons has this guy rated higher than Giannis, so he’s just getting that star whistle now.

[u/Totalnah]

By Gawd, that’s Kawhi music playing!

[u/QuickIntroduction405]

Where are the guys to explain this away through a set of steps that do not exist?

[u/-Kerosun- → u/QuickIntroduction405]

People tend to make the explanations too complicated. I think I have a good way to dumb it down.

When it comes to traveling, we have to first accept that any steps during a live dribble do not count. Which begs the question: "When could this player no longer legally continue dribbling?" When watching a replay, answer that question first. Once you establish that point of the play, the prayer gets two steps after that.

And this player took about 4 steps after he could no longer legally continue dribbling. Should have been a travel.

[u/HerrYusoy]

They need to stop this shit entirely. It makes basketball suck when everyone is just running around with the ball.

[u/QuantumTranquility]

Kids are basically claiming if you combine a carry and a travel, both are nullified 🤣🤣 y'all could not have grown up playing the sport talking like this. Lot of folks in these comments would have been tossed off the court.

[u/JK4711 → u/QuantumTranquility]

That's exactly what I'm saying. These ppl arguing that it's legal must have either never played the sport or started playing after the NBA decided it's all about making an entertainment product. David Stern was a bastard, but at least he knew not to fuck with the game of basketball like this.

[u/jknuts1377]

I don't care if he does play for the Celtics. This is a blatant travel that needs to be called. Stuff like this is why people make fun of the NBA. Have some integrity and make the correct call.

[u/-bigmanpigman- → u/jknuts1377]

Making fun of = talking about = good.

[u/jknuts1377 → u/-bigmanpigman-]

Unfortunately that's how Adam Silver's NBA thinks.

[u/throwawaymycareer93]

Steps 1-5: Clearly gather step

Steps 6-9: Not counted (due to the ball still spinning in his hand)

Steps 10-11: Legal two steps after picking up the dribble

Step 12: Already released the ball

[u/gimmedawz]

all those extra steps for a basic two handed dunk lol

[u/Live_Interaction9975]

Its like he was about to dribble but thought “ah it’s too late now”

[u/No_Exercise_6790]

That's Silver's NBA. If they're not enforcing the rulebook, stop calling it basketball. Take the B out of NBA.
I stand with Rick Barry.

[u/NonNewtonianResponse → u/No_Exercise_6790]

National Asketall Association

[u/m_ttl_ng]

We need a full reset of the way refs officiate travels.

[u/BlueClovr]

That was terrible

[u/Relevant-Apple8142]

An expedition

[u/m3xm]

Makes the game boring as hell imho. Enforce the rules.

[u/aopps42]

Even though preseason, probably refs cooking in fanduel

[u/Automatic_Ring_7553]

Bro gathered his gather, nothing wrong with that

[u/AlecGator6]

It’s ok someone on twitter will just say “gather step” and everything will be ok

[u/edki7277]

Refs are busy focusing on off-hand pushing and flopping. Neither one of these violations was observed here hence no call.

[u/SentenceDifficult396]

Lmfao that’s disgusting

[u/Superplex123]

LOL.

I can't help but laugh at how ridiculous this was. You can put this in a comedy movie and it would fit perfectly.

[u/Sir_Grindalot]

Oh come on guys. This a perfectly legal textbook "catch -> gather -> gather step -> balancing step -> 2 steps -> dunk". I don't know how anyone can think this is a travel, smh my head.

[u/Greedy_Ear_Mike]

What in the fuck was that, lmfao.

Come on ref.

[u/RovertheDog]

Most average NBA play

[u/Swift_Jr]

This league is a joke 🤦‍♂️

[u/Holiday-Ad-4654]

In modern NBA, every step before the last two is a gather step

[u/Cheap-Kiwi-1312]

So the NBA doesn't call any traveling now? What a joke.

[u/StudioGangster1 → u/Cheap-Kiwi-1312]

Where you been?

[u/Dazzling_End8412 → u/Cheap-Kiwi-1312]

he ain't watched hoops since the 90s 😭

[u/pilsnerd11]

Gathering the ball for 35 feet, lol

[u/executivesphere]

Pre-season used to mean something.

[u/laz10]

We have American refs in the NBL now and they don't call travels, so I'm forced to conclude that it's an American thing

[u/swill59]

Some of you guys clearly don’t understand the gather step(s) rule where a player is allowed to take as many steps as they damn well please while gathering the ball

[u/Makoto_Kurume]

This is ridiculous. Just change the rule if you're not going to enforce it anyway.

[u/BilboLaggin]

Too valuable for a Giannis deal

[u/Firm-Lavishness-172]

It's the most obvious travel I've seen in awhile, but refs never call travels on uncontested transition dunks. He had a free 2pts and tried to get fancy...whatever. Keep the game moving.

[u/Koteissad → u/Firm-Lavishness-172]

People try to explain it away because they say the ball is still moving in the offensive players hand, like the offensive player doesn't have complete control of the ball which was the interpretation of the rule for damn near 100 years

[u/UkNomysTeezz → u/Firm-Lavishness-172]

It don’t make it right. Blow the play dead give ball to Sixers and then keep it moving.

[u/RonSwanson069]

SMH, that’s not a travel! Yall don’t know ball. As long as he is GATHERING himself for the GATHER steps, it is legal

[u/HamiltonBlack]

Dudes on the 12 step program

[u/SpicyAnal]

First step with the right leg as the ball hits his hand will be considered a gather step 100% of the time - he takes 3 steps after that point so got away with one extra

[u/garicandrew]

This is why 90's players have very little respect for todays game . Shameful

[u/RobertDownseyJr → u/garicandrew]

Shit my old man always complained about the dribbling in the 90’s.. “Jordan carries the ball every time!”

[u/Plastic-Gur444]

Average Giannis drive

[u/jagrbro68]

That 1x Grayson Allen

[u/MakeCocktailsNotWar]

How many steps was that actually? 😅

[u/nostoopid]

refs are focused on push offs.

[u/Yeti60]

5 steps. Dude has a passport, visa, and a map

[u/RGS03]

He walked from the 3pt line 😂

Crazy that it did not get called 😂

[u/WobbleKun]

bro out here playing football

[u/JMadFour]

Jesus. The refs let that go? Really?

[u/satangod666]

I counted 6 steps with the weird shuffle thing at the start

[u/Lowfuji]

Haha looks like the type of dribbling you see at halftime between two under-7 squads.

[u/darthgator84]

That was 6 steps with the ball not hitting the floor

[u/soldier4death]

Mfer traveled more than the California high speed rail.

[u/osym]

This is INSANE

[u/jmlinden7]

The slow motion makes it look (very slightly) less bad, I think the refs gave him 2 gather steps since the ball was still spinning in his hand

[u/arrofil]

“Ok so dribble, gather, step … step step … step .. step step.”

Lmao how do they let this go.

[u/readingonthetoilet]

Everybody loves the ole 5 step

[u/drdildamesh]

Might as well just give two points for.the breakaway and blow the whistle to get back to the game faster.

[u/Pimpy_Longstocking]

The euro euro step

[u/kyleharveybooks]

Lol… like what… 14 steps

[u/TaxObjective6908]

Good count I lost count of the steps!

[u/Forty_Six_and_Two]

Even he was shocked that wasn't called

[u/CarefulBid6485]

Unfortunately that’s clean based on the gather bs

[u/MagicNinjaMan]

Even my 6 year old doesn't travel this bad.

[u/No-Cryptographer9326]

That’s a regular Friday in the NBA season

[u/Diqt]

I hate this league I love

[u/gunhan_kaytaz]

Let's dunk. I should gather first. Ok, step one, two... Hmm, why is the basket still so far away? Alright coupla more steps... Yeah, just two or three more to re-gather. That's easy 😄😄

[u/stockflethoverTDS]

Some South East Asian pickup primary school game level shit

[u/mabansis]

I wonder what special name the NBA will give this legal travel move.

[u/Worth-Tank336]

Waiting for the "that's just a gather" LMAO

[u/gelobaldonado]

Part of the "new gen players are more skilled" package