[Vorkunov] Portland Trail Blazers owner Tom Dundon has floated the prospect of relocation in private talks with league officials and other owners.

[u/DynastyInProcess]

Source: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/7696385/2026/10/16/portland-trail-blazers-relocate-moda-center-nba-dundon/?unlocked_article_code=1.JFE.kMo0.Zeo4LDcMUvUk&source=user_shared_article&smid=ta-ios-share

As the Portland Trail Blazers and local government officials negotiate the terms of a new lease agreement to refurbish the Moda Center, the prospect of relocation has hung over the city. It is, ultimately, the largest bargaining chip the Blazers and owner Tom Dundon have and what Portland must fear most if the two sides cannot agree to terms.

Negotiations on a remodel and a new lease have been rocky, but the relationship between the franchise and the city seems to have rebounded since it hit a nadir this summer. Dundon even met with city officials this week at a Blazers preseason game, as first reported by The Oregonian and confirmed by The Athletic.

With a looming deadline to make a deal by the end of the year, the Blazers owner told The Athletic that keeping the franchise where it has been for 56 years remains his goal.
“We are working to keep the team in Portland,” Dundon said by text message. “That is the priority.”

That threat of relocation has gone unsaid, at least publicly, in discussions between the Blazers and the city. But Dundon has floated the prospect of relocation in private talks with league officials and other owners, sources with knowledge of the situation told The Athletic. Those sources spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the conversations.

The discussions with NBA officials were not an official request, sources said. Dundon was met with resistance during those conversations, and the league told him to focus on trying to make the Blazers work in Portland, sources said.

Dundon denied any such discussions occurred. “That is not accurate,” he said.

[u/Or1g1nalrepr0duct10n]

Moving the Blazers to Seattle would be a crime against humanity

[u/Aromatic-Action-2523 → u/Or1g1nalrepr0duct10n]

Dundon is up for it I'm sure.

[u/mikesh8rp → u/Aromatic-Action-2523]

Especially if he's got some Seattle coupons that haven't expired yet

[u/Raul_Duke_1755 → u/mikesh8rp]

I'm in Seattle. I'd hope he'd find no support for this. Lots of us love Portland. We also hold Paul Allen in high regards (RIP) who owned the Blazers and Seahawks. Poaching the Blazers seems sacrilege to me.

[u/GenoThyme → u/Raul_Duke_1755]

I’d imagine too that as fans of a team that was stolen away, you don’t want to see another fan base have to go through that same thing. I was a Whalers fan growing up and as much as I wanna see Pucky back in Hartford, I wouldn’t want it at the expense of another fan base. At least the Thunder have the decency not to wear Sonics throwbacks like the Hurricanes do with Whalers shit. Man I hate the Hurricanes.

[u/burlycabin → u/GenoThyme]

Yeah, I absolutely do not want someone else's team. I hated when they were briefly trying to move the Kings here years ago.

[u/phillypharm → u/burlycabin]

I’d imagine you also want the Supersonics. Re-adopting the history works with an expansion team. If the Blazers relocated, even if they were renamed, they aren’t the SuperSonics.

[u/RangerFan80 → u/GenoThyme]

Funny that Dundon owns the Canes as well...

And put his whole fucking family on the Stanley Cup, what a load of bullshit.

[u/GenoThyme → u/RangerFan80]

I had forgotten about that part too, though it was a different owner who stole the Whalers amd somehow got into the hockey hall of fame for it

[u/BehavioralSink → u/GenoThyme]

And didn’t Dundon show up to his first public Blazer function in a Whalers hat? Prick has been putting his relocation threats in plain sight since he bought the Blazers.

[u/Braisernation → u/Raul_Duke_1755]

Private equity doesn’t give a flying fuck about sacrilege sadly.

[u/Raul_Duke_1755 → u/Braisernation]

You're right there...

[u/c0de1143 → u/Aromatic-Action-2523]

Dundon might be, but he’s not going to find any actionable support near King County to move the Blazers to Seattle.

[u/Hougie → u/Or1g1nalrepr0duct10n]

Did you guys read the article?

It literally says Dundon floated the idea and owners immediately shot him down.

The other owners have the most power to protect the Blazers. The fact that this not only leaked, but leaked with specific details that other owners don’t even want to discuss it was intentional.

NBA owners want no part of relocation right now. By the time they do some form of arena deal in Portland will be done. Dundon honestly had horrible timing on this. If expansion weren’t being discussed it would be a much more credible threat.

[u/boringexplanation → u/Hougie]

100% correct. Sacramento was the last viable city to propose a move for economic reasons. And that ended up shutting down.

I’d also imaging one sport cities are exactly the types of markets the NBA want teams to stay in forever.

[u/Confident_Ad_5345 → u/boringexplanation]

if portland weren’t the home of an NBA team (or if they had a history like sonics but no current team) they would be among the top candidates to move a team to

[u/BillHigh422 → u/boringexplanation]

Sacramento got the A’s (temporarily) you should be happy you have 1.5 teams!

/s

[u/Or1g1nalrepr0duct10n → u/Hougie]

Did you read the article from earlier today about Seattle not being an expansion lock?

[u/Hougie → u/Or1g1nalrepr0duct10n]

I absolutely did. And the main takeaway was that it was all saber rattling to get the current bidders to up their bids, and that they even plan to finalize the Vegas bid sooner hoping some of those prospective groups then make a bid for Seattle.

I know Reddit loves a good doomsday scenario. But this is the most easily dissected political deal you could have.

[u/Outside-Papaya → u/Hougie]

Never underestimate the stupidity of the wealthy.

[u/Dijohn17 → u/Or1g1nalrepr0duct10n]

It's a negotiation tactic. Mexico City isn't realistically getting a team

[u/TeTrodoToxin4 → u/Dijohn17]

Mexico City? That’s Raider country!

[u/riedmae → u/Or1g1nalrepr0duct10n]

We don't want that. We are 100% against this.

[u/GarryWisherman → u/Or1g1nalrepr0duct10n]

It would be significantly worse than moving Seattle to OKC and that was real bad

[u/Cheap-Kiwi-1312]

Do not send the blazers to Seattle. We want that rivalry not to steal their team.

[u/Aromatic-Action-2523 → u/Cheap-Kiwi-1312]

As a lifelong blazers fan, I deeply miss hating the sonics. The sonics relocation had forever tainted my ability to enjoy the NBA (bad blazers teams have helped with that tbh) and this would outright kill it.

[u/Cheap-Kiwi-1312 → u/Aromatic-Action-2523]

I honestly don't know if I could support the team if we took the blazers. I'll give okc a break because they had nothing so them getting the sonics was incredible for them, I will forever hate okc but not the fans. I would HATE to take the blazers even if it gave us the sonics. Give us an expansion or don't give us anything.

[u/Aromatic-Action-2523 → u/Cheap-Kiwi-1312]

It would be awful. I didn't know anyone other than sonics fans more supportive of a team in Seattle than blazers fans. I wouldn't know how to process the blazers moving up. 

[u/BlazingSaint → u/Cheap-Kiwi-1312]

Yeah. I’d straight up have a Joker arc if that happens.

[u/Cheap-Kiwi-1312 → u/BlazingSaint]

I wouldn't even support the team honestly. I already hate the NBA for taking the sonics but giving us the blazers seems just as fucked up. I love going down to blazers games even if I get shit talked to for wearing Seattle gear, that's what's fun we had a real PNW I-5 rivalry. They took that from us. I wish you guys would also get a baseball team so we could have that.

[u/BlazingSaint → u/Cheap-Kiwi-1312]

It’s like the Braves moving to New Orleans!

[u/swawesome52]

Least surprising NBA news. Dude actively hates the Portland fanbase for reasons I don't know why

[u/doomnutz → u/swawesome52]

He doesn’t hate them he’s just a greedy fuck that will do anything for more money

[u/OGrand → u/doomnutz]

You mean to tell me the guy who made his money through high risk credit subprime lending, and is/has been under investigation by multiple state attorney generals for predatory lending practices ISNT a stand up guy?? Preposterous

Yeah he sucks.

[u/Leroy--Brown → u/doomnutz]

His entire business model is private equity business.

Buy the thing, preferably treat it like a distressed asset to get a discount on the price. Find ways to get more profit out of it, but ruin the product at the same time. Then in a couple year when he can show profitability, after ruining the blazers, he will show it's profit growth and sell it off to someone else.

[u/Exzibit21]

when the Clippers hammer dropped, I got into an argument on here with someone that said they'd rather have Dundon as an owner than Ballmer.

the guy who's already basically the cheapest owner in the league + desperately wants to rip the team away from Portland.

[u/CreatiScope → u/Exzibit21]

Yeah, Ballmer was cheating because he cares. Dundon is a fuckhead piece of shit. Shouldn’t have been allowed to buy the blazers.

[u/TaxLawKingGA → u/CreatiScope]

This.

You have to ask how he was allowed to buy the team at the price with suspect financing.

Congress needs to get involved. It’s amazing that Congress can find time to stop student athletes from making money yet can’t seem to find time to stop billionaires from stealing from taxpayers.

Vote the bums out.

[u/butterflyhole → u/Exzibit21]

I’d kill to have Ballmer as an owner

[u/Dusty_Negatives → u/butterflyhole]

Ya no question.

[u/CraigLake → u/butterflyhole]

Absolutely. A true sports fan.

[u/1psithur3 → u/butterflyhole]

Vivek stocks are up!

[u/mrtidles → u/1psithur3]

For real tho. For all his faults he seems to be trying at least lol

[u/ElBluntDealer → u/butterflyhole]

Honestly any fan should

[u/mrstretchb4ureach → u/Exzibit21]

I’d rather have an enthusiastic owner who gets caught being a cheater than to have one that makes me feel existential dread about my team.

[u/ZroDgsCalvin]

I would say the rich ruin sports, but in reality the rich ruin everything

[u/FrostedZombie24]

Dundon you and your Stanley Cup Champion kids can fuck off our hockey team is fine and the Blazers are too.

[u/Briguy_fieri → u/FrostedZombie24]

I always hated the canes

[u/bluedeer10 → u/Briguy_fieri]

Bunch of Jerks?

[u/OldDekeSport → u/Briguy_fieri]

1. Rude
2. Fuck Dundon

[u/SonicPunk96 → u/Briguy_fieri]

real

[u/Redrubytheofficial]

If they relocate to Seattle this sub is gonna have the funniest fucking discourse of all time

[u/Remote_Elevator_281 → u/Redrubytheofficial]

Pretty sure everyone knows that he wants to relocate. He is looking for every excuse to do it.

But it’s near impossible as there is a lawsuit clause in the contract if he does - which he would owe 1.8 to 6.3 BILLION to Portland. Which we know he is too cheap to take a massive hit like that.

He is also a republican, so the idea of him moving to another super liberal city is laughable. That’s part of the reason for him wanting to relocate. He’d want to move to Texas or Carolina.

[u/pathimself → u/Remote_Elevator_281]

Considering he’s clearly short on cash, there’s no way he’d pay that.

[u/karawec403 → u/pathimself]

The city will just have to take payment in the form of his assets. The value of the blazers should cover it.

[u/spookyghostface → u/Remote_Elevator_281]

He might want to double check the demographics of Raleigh then. We're not Seattle or Portland but still very blue. Durham even more so.

But also trying to move a pro basketball team into the middle of Tobacco Road is a guaranteed disaster.

[u/bigtimehater1969 → u/spookyghostface]

The reality doesn't matter as much as the optics of moving to a "red" state. It's not actually about moving to a better situation, it's all about virtue signalling.

Just look at all the far right techbros who moved to Austin, TX out of all the places you could've gone to in TX...

[u/amonkeysbanana → u/Remote_Elevator_281]

I was humoring myself by picturing an NBA team in Durham, NC because of this asshole

[u/skullcandy541 → u/Remote_Elevator_281]

Imagine if Portland is the team that moves to Mexico lol

[u/_thisisvincent → u/skullcandy541]

No mames guey

[u/DZ_tank → u/Redrubytheofficial]

That will never happen. The owners have to approve any relocations, and letting Dundon move to Seattle means forgoing almost half a billion in expansion fees per team.

[u/AceMcStace → u/DZ_tank]

Also, are we just ignoring that the top bid for the Seattle franchise literally owns Climate Pledge? How would that work for Dundon? He’d have join that ownership group, convince them to drop their bid and rent to him, or build his own arena. Not saying it’s impossible but it’s a weird wrinkle to all of this.

[u/1850ChoochGator → u/AceMcStace]

Exactly. Not happening.

[u/Whatsth3dill → u/DZ_tank]

I mean, if they choose Mexico city over Seattle for expansion, they may allow it then

[u/DZ_tank → u/Whatsth3dill]

Seattle will be either an expansion team or nothing. It’s one of the only remaining markets where a crazy 10b+ expansion fee might be justifiable.

Also, that Mexico City thing isn’t going to happen.

[u/Sanders058 → u/DZ_tank]

Surely the Mexico City stuff is just to drive the bid up

[u/1850ChoochGator → u/Sanders058]

Idk why. No other Seattle bid will work. The leading Seattle one owns the arena. The other one would have to outbid them + spend more to build their own arena and the proposed location is north of Everett

[u/cn_wizz → u/Sanders058]

Mexico City would be the biggest home court advantage. All road teams would get smoked from the altitude

[u/Jakefiz → u/Whatsth3dill]

No, the owners of climate pledge/Kraken wont want that, Dundon wouldnt want to split revenue there. Logistically itd be a worse investment than keeping the team here

[u/No_Grocery_9280 → u/Whatsth3dill]

If Mexico City moves forward with a team, it should be their own homegrown one. That sets them up for success best.

[u/Tracuivel → u/Redrubytheofficial]

Maybe Oklahoma City needs a second team?

[u/badaccentdoer → u/Tracuivel]

32 team league, 8 in okc, 8 in memphis, 8 in sacramento, 8 in utah.

[u/Room_Temp_Coffee → u/badaccentdoer]

Solved the travel problem

[u/badaccentdoer → u/Room_Temp_Coffee]

i'm doing the best at this.

[u/Cheap-Kiwi-1312 → u/Redrubytheofficial]

Please don't... We don't want to take anyone's team we just want ours back. We love that rivalry we don't want their team.

[u/SiphenPrax → u/Cheap-Kiwi-1312]

Yeah I can’t imagine Sonics fans being happy about a team being moved to their town owned by a bum fuck cheapskate owner instead of just getting an expansion team

[u/Cheap-Kiwi-1312 → u/SiphenPrax]

We already have the mariners bitch ass cheap owner who only cares about profits. We also got our team stolen we don't wanna steal someone else's let alone or oldest rival.

[u/intensebreathing → u/Redrubytheofficial]

I don’t want this bum in my town

[u/Lonely-Ocelot-2417 → u/Redrubytheofficial]

The funniest bit is that if he moved to Seattle he wouldn't own the team's arena, because the city has made it extremely clear the Sonics will play at Climate Pledge Arena. So he'd be losing a bunch of money every season forever.

[u/NotASalamanderBoi → u/Lonely-Ocelot-2417]

He’d probably just move them to whatever town outside of Seattle would be willing to pay up or give tax breaks to build a new arena. Fuck this guy.

[u/Lonely-Ocelot-2417 → u/NotASalamanderBoi]

I don't think anyone would do it, honestly. Seattle's not like other NBA cities. They've spent almost twenty years self-determining after having their team stolen and the city and state are pretty united that while they WANT their team back it's going to be on their terms, in the arena they already funded, likely with the ownership group that owns the Kraken already. Dundon is almost everything Seattle would abhor. They're like the anti-Cleveland (Cleveland famously bent over and spread their cheeks in terms of stadium funding and municpal decision making in desperation to get the NFL to give them a second Browns franchise almost immediately after Modell relocated the old team to Baltimore). Seattle's got more going on and more franchises to cheer for than to prostitute themselves for a bad deal.

[u/nativeindian12 → u/Lonely-Ocelot-2417]

He doesn’t own the Moda center either, the city of Portland does

[u/Lonely-Ocelot-2417 → u/nativeindian12]

It's a different scenario, though-- while Dundon doesn't own the Moda Center his lease with the city does grant him the majority of the revenue from the arena. In the hypothetical Seattle scenario, he'd actually be paying OUT significant money for the arena to One Roof, as well as granting them a significant portion of the revenue generated at the arena. So yeah, it'd be a bad financial beat for Dundon.

[u/SenseiIxnay → u/Redrubytheofficial]

We don’t want em, we love our PDX neighbors

[u/TheScrote1 → u/Redrubytheofficial]

If they do that I hope Seattle fans boycott. Probably won’t happen but one can hope

[u/butterflyhole → u/TheScrote1]

They won’t boycott and I don’t blame them. It wouldn’t change a thing.

[u/IntelligentSize531 → u/butterflyhole]

As a Seattle fan I’m boycotting bro. I want the Sonics not the blazers. You deserve your team

[u/No_Grocery_9280 → u/IntelligentSize531]

I want the Sonics back badly, but I couldn’t imagine stealing another city’s team.

[u/TheScrote1 → u/butterflyhole]

Agreed

[u/ImAShaaaark → u/butterflyhole]

I'm sure plenty of Seattle residents would still go to games, but a lot of old sonics fans would absolutely be pissed about it. That'd be just about the last team that they'd be okay with "stealing".

[u/Viron_22 → u/TheScrote1]

I ain't watching that shit, this owner sound like a fucking jackass and anyone that supports that version of the team has no principles at all and are complete sellouts. Fuck em.

[u/Constant-Low-5111 → u/TheScrote1]

Why would they lmao

[u/burlycabin → u/Constant-Low-5111]

We absolutely would boycott and all the people here without Sonics flair saying otherwise clearly do not know this city.

We don't want the Balzers here. We want our own team. We've spent decades now putting the pieces in place for expansion.

[u/woopwup → u/TheScrote1]

Yeah that’s not gonna happen

[u/OccasionalGoodTakes → u/TheScrote1]

I would almost certainly stop watching the NBA in general

[u/imthesqwid]

Is he the worst owner in all of sports?

[u/NotASalamanderBoi → u/imthesqwid]

In the NBA? Yes. In all of sports? There’s defo people above him. Gérard López for example.

[u/Pele_Of_Anal → u/NotASalamanderBoi]

Totally glazing over James Dolan is crazy.

[u/NotASalamanderBoi → u/Pele_Of_Anal]

Dolan ain’t got shit on López:

>Under his ownership, both Girondins de Bordeaux and Boavista, as well as Royal Excel Mouscron in Belgium, have been relegated from the top division of their respective leagues into the 4th and 5th tiers of amateur football.[21] On 31 May 2022, Royal Excel Mouscron filed for bankruptcy.[22]

>In mid-July 2026, Girondins de Bordeaux was relegated from the national championships to Régional 1, the sixth tier in French football, due to financial difficulties and failure to meet financial requirements.[23] On 31 July, López sold Bordeaux to British investment firm Sparta Capital Management for a symbolic one euro, after the firm secured the required €10 million to complete a takeover of the club. Bordeaux subsequently sought for reinstatement to the Championnat National 2 through an appeal to the CNOSF.[24]

[u/cortouchka → u/Pele_Of_Anal]

Owner of the current NBA champions?

[u/Pele_Of_Anal → u/cortouchka]

Yes, that one. He’s still a shit owner by every fuckin metic there is. Even knicks fans would agree with that.

[u/ajteitel → u/NotASalamanderBoi]

Fucking Bidwills...

[u/xbhaskarx → u/imthesqwid]

John Fisher

[u/Spiffiestspaceman → u/xbhaskarx]

FJF

[u/PumpJockyTwerks4Tips → u/xbhaskarx]

100%

[u/BasedShawn → u/xbhaskarx]

by a country mile

[u/owiseone23 → u/imthesqwid]

Some soccer teams are owned by straight up villains.

[u/Agreeable_Quality768 → u/imthesqwid]

Woody Johnson and John Fisher would like a word with you

[u/geewillie → u/imthesqwid]

Lmao nowhere close. 

[u/pitifullittleman]

For as long as I can remember the Trailblazers were known for their rabid fanbase. Portland doesn't have much else besides them. Never heard anything about bad attendance.

It would be a tragedy if they relocated. The NBA should say no if they can.

[u/Sirtopofhat → u/pitifullittleman]

Also to add to your rabid fan base comment. I hear the Timbers in MLS have crazy loyalty it's like Portland is that starved they will love everything you give em

[u/butterflyhole → u/Sirtopofhat]

Not to mention the Thorns and Fire get crazy support

[u/SiphenPrax → u/butterflyhole]

The Thorns have had really good support for a while and the Fire already have a passionate and dedicated fanbase despite only being in the league for a year

[u/thegayquadzilla → u/butterflyhole]

the Thorns are the most successful women's professional sports team in the world in terms of average attendance. They do better numbers than many mens MLS teams (9 by my count)

[u/DibsOnThatBooty → u/Sirtopofhat]

The Timbers were one of the best run teams in the MLS for years. They’ve been rough in recent years, but they were a team well worth supporting passionately. Their rivalry with the Sounders is probably the second best rivalry in the MLS.

[u/jboarei → u/DibsOnThatBooty]

It’s easily the best.

[u/1dlefall5 → u/DibsOnThatBooty]

Second? Wth

[u/milionsdeadlandlords → u/DibsOnThatBooty]

I do not think there is a better MLS rivalry than Portland and Seattle.

[u/jboarei → u/Sirtopofhat]

Best supporters in MLS reside in Portland.

They paint some amazing tifos for games every season.

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/SLQtRdKO544?ra=m

[u/DarkBlueX2 → u/Sirtopofhat]

Their B-team is gonna hit an attendance record for B-teams in the League for their playoffs

[u/MrE134 → u/Sirtopofhat]

Now I’m crying

[u/WISCOrear → u/pitifullittleman]

Portland is hungry for good basketball again.

Maybe Dundon should just idk invest in a city and state that already has a loyal fanbase, put a good product out there any you will make your precious money.

[u/WellTextured → u/pitifullittleman]

Portland, a city with some of the most amazing natural beauty in its back yard. A world class food and wine scene. Two wildly popular professional soccer teams. And an emergingly popular women's basketball team. 

You're right, not much besides the blazers.  

[u/Nexgod2]

Almost like that was his plan all along.

[u/Aromatic-Action-2523 → u/Nexgod2]

Clay Bennett 2.0

[u/SecurePlate3122]

I hate this mf

[u/CollegeFootballGood]

No. Portland or any city never deserves this. Fuck this guy. Jody Allen failing her brother

[u/AceMcStace]

Isn’t this old news? He asked and was told to politely fuck off silver and the other owners. The take from the local beat here is he might not WANT to stay in Portland but he’s realized it’s his only real option if he wants to be an NBA owner. Hes a shit brain but he stuck here and we’re stuck with him.

[u/Party_Foundation_209]

El Cheapo

[u/KartFacedThaoDien]

He never wanted to stay in Portland in the first place. 

[u/EvanTurningTheCorner → u/KartFacedThaoDien]

First appearance in Portland, this mf showed up wearing a Hartford Whalers hat, aka the previous location and name of the hockey team he owns. A subtle fuck you to the fans of both teams.

[u/Aromatic-Action-2523 → u/EvanTurningTheCorner]

What a fucker.

[u/MicroSofty88 → u/KartFacedThaoDien]

Exactly. How does this not come up in the original vetting and sale process? I think the league office is more in on this situation than they are letting on.

[u/Extra-Bite2324]

Be like football (soccer) fans in Europe. If he proposes it, riot.

[u/Aromatic-Action-2523 → u/Extra-Bite2324]

We might anyway. You know how we roll.

[u/CreatiScope]

I will stop watching NBA, full stop if this happens. Not another dime. No tickets, no jerseys, nothing on tv, no league pass. Nothing.

This better not happen.

[u/LinuxDootTP]

i fucking hate this dude. shoot him off into jupiter

[u/Complete-Apricot-591]

here we go again

[u/Thealbumisjustdrums]

Fuck this guy. Silver and the other owners should force him to sell.  

[u/Extreme-Dirt7545]

It would be so sad. 40 years of history in town wiped out by a dumbass

[u/NotASalamanderBoi → u/Extreme-Dirt7545]

Almost 60 at this point + a chip.

[u/WISCOrear → u/Extreme-Dirt7545]

40 years wiped out because a sociopath billionaire needs more.

[u/Woodsy1901]

This is why Adam Silver should stop dragging his feet and get expansion taken care of but on the other hand, he and the owners probably still like having this threat hanging around to strongarm every local government into covering the costs for upgrading/replacing arenas

[u/devereaux → u/Woodsy1901]

That's why they've kept Seattle without a team for years. They seem to be more useful as a threat than as an actual NBA city

[u/MicroSofty88 → u/Woodsy1901]

They have to take tax money from school kids to feel like they’re getting a good deal

[u/Radiant-Banana161]

Didn’t silver just say moving the blazers would be a failure? fuck Dundon man.

[u/Greedy_Ear_Mike]

Fuck this guy.

Trying to rip the Blazers away from Portland. Fuck that.

[u/Efficient-Swimmer794]

I want this owner to be miserable for the rest of his life. Portland fans deserve way better than this shit

[u/unikcycle]

First I want to say Dundon sucks and is terrible for our city 

BUT

This is all just postering to get more money out of the bidders for the Seattle expansion bidders. It’s no coincidence this is the same day as the story about possibly not expanding into Seattle and into Mexico City instead. This is all just posturing by Silver to increase value in NBA franchises and spur more competition in the bidding for expansion into Seattle as its worth is lagging behind the Las Vegas bids. 

F Dundon anyway and we should have never given that lousy billionaire a single dime for public money. 

[u/Unusual_Name_8714 → u/unikcycle]

The Raiders have had the most expensive tickets in the NFL despite sucking (until this year)

He wants the Blazers in Las Vegas. The NBA has cuddled up to gambling and that will turn Vegas into a top 10 market.

The Blazers are worth 4 billion and it will cost 7-11 billion for an expansion team to go to Vegas. If he can weasel his way in he'll increase his net worth by 3-7 BILLION dollars.

[u/unikcycle → u/Unusual_Name_8714]

He really wants to move the team to Vegas 100% but I don’t think the league will allow it. It’s worth too much as an expansion. He’s trying to back door cheap his way into Vegas if the stories from this summer are true that he kicked the tires on expansion cost but didn’t like the steep price tag. 

[u/ayeno → u/Unusual_Name_8714]

The other owners won't let him move to Las Vegas, because the other owners won't get expansion money if he moves there.

[u/ThinkThankThonk]

What if we get two teams in Mexico City

[u/VyronDaGod]

Warriors fan in Portland. I will burn this whole bitch down!

[u/bingersforall]

Not a Portland fan by any stretch but if they move the team I'm done with the NBA.

[u/gmr548]

He is a cheap ass mf despised by literally everyone and no one would want a franchise run by him

[u/SantosCalzonesBatman]

Relocating to mexico to save money on the staff

Instead of paying USD he nows pays pesos

[u/JasonPlattMusic34 → u/SantosCalzonesBatman]

So he’s running his team like American auto makers run their shops, outsource it to Mexico

[u/sloppy_steaks22 → u/SantosCalzonesBatman]

The El Cheapo nickname would go even harder if he did that

[u/prosperousoctopus → u/SantosCalzonesBatman]

It’s sickening. Dudes a billionaire, owns an NHL team, does whatever the fuck else, and his money sitting around is probably making more than most people do in a lifetime. Yet he won’t pony up the money for an arena for a team that will only grow in net worth regardless of where it’s located. He didn’t have to do this shit

[u/Leroy--Brown → u/prosperousoctopus]

It's all because the cost of relocating a team would be cheaper than paying the required expansion fee.

He knew all of this going into it. He knew about the status of the moda center, the necessary repairs before he bought the blazers. He negotiated with the city to pony up cash for renovations, even though only about 10% of those repairs are necessary and structural, while 85-90% of the repairs are to meet luxury high status and box office needs. He negotiated with the city like a piece of shit. And then...... The city agreed to his stupid terms and will pay him. And even after all that this cheap POS still wants to back out of the deal because a relocation fee is cheaper than the expansion fee.

He's bringing the private equity model to the blazers. Fuck private equity. Speaking of private equity ruining things.... Sorry for the future lakers fans, it's about to happen to you guys too.

[u/Unlikely-Tone-6269 → u/prosperousoctopus]

This guy bought and shut down a minor league football team when he realized it required more money

[u/No_Grocery_9280]

Guess it wasn’t that private.

There should be some rule against people buying teams to immediately try and relocate them.

[u/Toten88]

This level of greed is a mental illness

[u/UnethicallyMoral]

This guy fucking sucks

[u/LimCity]

God damn this guy is such a raging piece of shit.

[u/stonecutter7]

Relocate a foot up his ass

[u/GarageFridgeSoda]

Mexico City is a smokescreen for Dundon to strongarm Portland like this, I don't buy it.

[u/karl_hungas]

Fuck that guy 

[u/wolffanglex]

Fuck Tom Dundon

[u/complicatedairflow3]

Shame. Portland has some of the best fans in the league.

[u/Bkaysivart]

Can we relocate him instead?

[u/No_Respond5748]

Seeing as the world is apparently now full of an endless stream of billionaires with fuck-you money, I’d wager it is well beyond time that the NBA had additional considerations when it comes to approving sales. Granted in this case maybe Silver and company are getting what they want… But the league simply isn’t desperate enough to approve every sale and let every fuckwit, cheap ass owner buy a team. There is more at stake than just team valuations at sale.

[u/jawid72]

Fuck Adam Silver.

[u/ChefCurryYumYum]

After how wrong it went with the Sonics/Thunder I think everyone is going to be gun shy about relocating.

[u/petarisawesomeo → u/ChefCurryYumYum]

Especially with 2 expansion teams coming very soon.

[u/thejontorrweno]

I hated this guy when he canned the AAF. Glad to see he hasn't changed one bit.

[u/Lopsided_Ad6719]

Just move the Nets to Seattle.

[u/Dusty_Negatives]

As always FUCK Dundon

[u/triplevanos]

If I had a nickel every time a PNW NBA franchise was bought and almost immediately shipped to another city, I’d have 3 nickels

[u/ComprehensiveGas6980]

What a POS.

[u/jelqlord]

Tom Dundon. More like Tom Dumdum.

[u/Finnbarr]

Fuck Todd Dundon. Sell the team if you don't like Portland. We don't need you here.

[u/Downtown_Soil_3651]

These owners are such scum.

[u/the_descendent]

Blazers gonna be the first fanbase chanting “sell the team” in the new owner’s inaugural season

[u/BigShotBob89]

Trump also isn’t telling the truth, the sky is blue and CEOs of the trillion dollar companies don’t care about general well being

[u/Verbz]

Becoming an NBA fan in the beginning of the Kemp & Payton era, living in Washington, but being across the bridge from Portland, and 3 hrs from Seattle, I was a huge fan of both the teams. The Blazers are my team forever, but I loved the Sonics too. It's absolutely bullshit that one of the best basketball cities in the country doesn't have a team. And as a fan of the only actually NW team in the NW division, I sure the fuck wish Seattle would get the Sonics back. It's asinine to be in the same division as OKC.

[u/Katesburneracct]

He’s been telegraphing a move since he bought the team. It’s just a matter of time imo

[u/44035]

Fuck that guy

[u/ProfessorCon]

No wonder Adam Silver is saying the expansion time isn’t going to go to Seattle now. Fuck Tom Dundon, even if they stay fuck him and fuck billionaires.

[u/aw2669]

He is such a piece of shit.  

[u/politicians_are_evil]

They haven't even outlined what arena upgrades they want.

[u/doccogito]

Anyone else think he bought to get the expansion money as a quick bonus and anything else he can negotiate is just delay tactics before he sells again?

[u/Gordo--]

Man, fuck Tom Dundon

[u/BotherEconomy4413]

Tom dumdum was always going to move them. Fk him. He is massive prick and douche who made his billions thru predatory lending. The dude obviously just does ngaf about anything and has no soul. I don't think they ever should have sold to a guy like that but the greed train marches on.

[u/Prudent-Aspect5085 → u/BotherEconomy4413]

I just don't get it. Spend your fucking money, build an arena, embrace your fans, feel good. But then again, that's not how billionaires operate

[u/Edogawa1983 → u/Prudent-Aspect5085]

Isn't this the warriors

[u/Jayfxt → u/Edogawa1983]

Technically he did move them. I wish he could have waited and did something in Oakland. I know it's still in the same area but the energy isn't the same in SF

[u/numba-1-stunna → u/Edogawa1983]

In the bay area its been shit on lacob season this summer since he hasnt put steph in position to win a 5th title(what a jerk). But that dude also built a stadium in one of the most expensive cities in america with entirely private money. As far as owners go he’s about as good as you could hope for

[u/Character_Reward2734 → u/numba-1-stunna]

You forgot to add all the NIMBYs he had to fight to get said arena built.