r/nba • u/MembershipSingle7137 Celtics • Sep 14 '26
[Charania] Done deal: The LA Clippers and Raptors have both agreed to complete the trade sending Kawhi Leonard to Toronto for Brandon Ingram, Gradey Dick, two unprotected first-round picks, one first-round pick swap and two second-rounders, per ESPN sources. The sides will now schedule a trade call.
[Charania] Done deal: The LA Clippers and Raptors have both agreed to complete the trade sending Kawhi Leonard to Toronto for Brandon Ingram, Gradey Dick, two unprotected first-round picks, one first-round pick swap and two second-rounders, per ESPN sources. The sides will now schedule a trade call.
https://www.espn.com/contributor/shams-charania/67163f117708a
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u/Iptv-provider-here Philippines Sep 14 '26
So that Pascal Siakam trade eventually led to Kawhi going back
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u/YoloGuyz Warriors Bandwagon Sep 14 '26
Time to plant some trees in Canada boys
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u/GreyMatter22 Raptors Sep 14 '26
We will make sure he actually plants a few, with shovel in hand in photos.
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u/lalakingmalibog Mavericks Sep 14 '26
I have an idea, lets make an image of Kawhi looking like Groot!
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u/1000littleaccidents Raptors Sep 14 '26
Careful now, thinking like that might get you a head office job with the Clippers.
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u/Kimi7 Lakers Sep 14 '26
Dude is leaving the country, logical solution for him tbh
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u/A-Centrifugal-Force Sep 14 '26
The FBI pressing charges against him and Canada refusing to extradite him would be the best way for this to play out lol. He’d only be able to play in home games, which I’m sure he’d be fine with.
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u/RealCanadianDragon Sep 14 '26
If every Canadian planted 1 tree, that would be enough to cover 1 year of money for him
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u/r3d-wolv3s Sep 14 '26
One of the most common summer jobs for Canadian University students btw. Tree planting for logging companies is a whole lifestyle up here.
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u/Michipotz Nuggets Sep 14 '26
Isnt Canada like... 90% trees? Lmao
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u/JManKit Raptors Sep 14 '26
We could always use more. They're a great carbon sink
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u/brainspl0ad Clippers Sep 14 '26
Tbf, they did have a huge fire recently.
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u/oh5canada5eh Toronto Huskies Sep 14 '26
You would be surprised what percentage of every state/province with abundant forests is on fire at any given time.
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u/rgarc065 Heat Sep 14 '26
Kawhi for BI, Dick, picks
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u/leafsnation2k4 Raptors Sep 14 '26
BI,G. Dick, Picks.
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u/TheOrangeFutbol Clippers Sep 14 '26
Imagine the graphics if Grady re-signs with the Clippers, if you catch my drift...
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u/D_Simmons Raptors Sep 14 '26
lmao Bi dick pics
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u/Hugh_Jankles [DAL] Dirk Nowitzki Sep 14 '26
How does 35 year old Cap Circumventing Kawhi Leonard get a bigger trade package than Luke Doncic lmao
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u/w3bCraw1er NBA Sep 14 '26
Exactly but the NBA can't investigate that huh?
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u/Papa_Joe_Yakavetta [LAL] Xavier Henry Sep 15 '26
They’re not going to investigate themselves for rigging the draft to get Luka to LA
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u/razoRamone31 Mavericks Sep 14 '26
To be fair, Davis was statistically a top 15 player lol... But I agree lol
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u/zepistol NBA Sep 14 '26
Who is always injured and old compared to mvp talent 26year old they traded for
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u/D-PIMP_ACT Sep 14 '26
Because the mavs didn’t talk to anyone else…
Most of the teams in the league would’ve offered more than AD and max Christie…
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u/ngerb_5 Pacers Sep 14 '26
BREAKING: Ballmer needs Dick to help get over breakup with Kawhi
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u/iXeons Sep 14 '26
Son
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u/Dark_Spirit_Zy Sep 14 '26 edited Sep 14 '26
Nah, he plays for LAFC
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u/SUPERSAMMICH6996 Cavaliers Sep 14 '26
Kawhi's back-door deal leaves Ballmer raw, looks to new Dick to soothe things over.
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u/RaisinDetre Suns Sep 14 '26
Why is it that I've been reading Dick comments for years (KU fan) and yet I never get tired of a single one?
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u/Mmm_360 Sep 14 '26
Comments are good but the game commentary was hilarious.... Dick penetrates to the rim.... Dick from deep... what a shot by Dick!
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u/Frequent-Ferret-5110 Clippers Sep 14 '26
sometimes it's just fun to let yourself enjoy something really stupid and harmless
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u/Envelope_Torture Sep 14 '26
Drake gonna be busy arranging more no show deals with Kawhi so he signs that extension.
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u/A-Centrifugal-Force Sep 14 '26
That’s the thing I still don’t get about the 2019 saga. If he was just willing to do some minimal work for endorsement deals Canadians were prepared to make him a gagillionaire. He had an entire country of fans behind him, and while hockey will always be king in Canada, the Leafs have been a disaster for decades and the immigrant population in the greater Toronto area loves the Raptors.
He could have been the King of the North but instead decided he’d rather get paid not to plant trees. Dude screwed up his legacy so hard.
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u/dillpickles007 Hawks Sep 14 '26
Uncle Dennis straight up asked for an ownership stake in MLSE and they told him to kick rocks lol
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u/Exchange_Hour Sep 14 '26
I don't know for sure but I believe the reporting was he asked for a stake in the Raptors. They informed him that it was actually MLSE and that was impossible, not that the Raptors was possible, but MLSE is entirely inconceivably impossible
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u/indoninjah 76ers Sep 14 '26
For all the people saying Kawhi is at fault for all of this, this is the reaction that the Clippers should've had.
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u/ToplaneVayne Raptors Sep 14 '26
Everybody knows the Clippers should've said no and reported it, the reason Kawhi is getting singled out is because unlike the Clippers he didn't face any repercussions for partaking in the deal.
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u/Bat-manuel Sep 14 '26
But the Clippers paid him. His uncle requested partial ownership OF MLSE. He wanted to own the Leafs to stay. It's insane.
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u/IHazenArgument Sep 14 '26
To be fair, even with his shady bullshit, he still probably would've been one of the better owners the Leafs have had.
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u/S0SNSFW Knicks Sep 14 '26
i mean if you can go home and get paid the exact or maybe even more in endorsements, with NO WORK, instead of minimal, literally anyone would take that deal.
i dont ever fault any athlete who wants to play for their hometown.
if anything, he used the raptors as leverage for the clippers.
all im saying is that if kawhi stayed in toronto, new balance would be number 2 after nike. he had an entire country in a stranglehold trying to get those “board man gets paid” and “fun guy” t shirts, and they didnt release until he signed with the clippers…
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u/AutographedSnorkel Rockets Sep 14 '26
We finally have a meme worthy teammate for Gradey Dick...Keaton Wagler. Let's go
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u/SkepticCritic Sep 14 '26
There’s Darius Garland too…perhaps you have heard the Sexton Garland duo’s nickname?
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u/ShootTheMailMan DeMarcus Cousins Sep 14 '26
How do the first-round pick swaps work? LAC doesn't have picks . . .
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u/StarBug_II Raptors Sep 14 '26 edited Sep 14 '26
They do have their 2027 pick. It was 2028-2032 picks that were revoked. They already had their 2027 pick traded as a swap with OKC, so the league left that.
edit - Their 2029-2033 picks have been revoked.
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u/thrawn_is_king Clippers Sep 14 '26
It's for 2027 I think Where they already had a pick that was swapped with OKC now they could swap it back to Toronto.
The sanctions start in 2029 and five years from there.
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u/PastaCheed Spurs Sep 14 '26
How tf are yall so fast
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u/WhyRedditBlowsDick Sep 14 '26
It's botted and it's been pointed out before that anyone else who manages to post before them gets their post removed.
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u/NoTrillionaires Sep 15 '26
Bot is a script/program 10 years ago with slightly less technical skills/time. It’s a shame that the general public thinks AI/bot is the next skynet or some bullshit.
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u/MyLadySansa [NYK] Jalen Brunson Sep 14 '26
So glad all ends well for innocent soul Kawhi
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u/dating_derp Warriors Sep 14 '26
Crazy they still got 2 unprotected 1sts and a 1st round swap for him. Clippers are desperate for picks, Raptors should've lowered the offer.
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u/Legitimate_Cow_4166 Warriors Sep 14 '26
Then another team would've jumped in. The demand for talent exceeds the supply. It's why these owners resort to this shit in the first place.
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u/captain_ahabb Lakers Sep 14 '26
The NBA is also a small club where everyone deals with the same people over and over again. Reneging on an agreed deal to screw a team over would not be well-received I don't think.
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u/freshOJ Hawks Sep 14 '26
Yeah, if the raptors don’t include both picks I think Atlanta would be able to beat the raptors offer with expiring contracts.
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u/brainspl0ad Clippers Sep 14 '26
I might be dumb, but how do 1st round pick swaps work if we got ours taken?
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u/gazing_sunspots Sep 14 '26
Cost of getting rid of BI's contract.
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u/IanicRR [TOR] Amir Johnson Sep 14 '26
And I cannot stress enough how awful Gradey Dick is.
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u/Potential-Comment960 Sep 14 '26
I mean if you look at it as just for kawhi, then I'd agree, but you're dumping BI's contract which you would've had to add picks to get off of anyway.
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u/sakata32 [LAC] Sam Cassell Sep 14 '26
It was dumb that people kept thinking that would happen. Its bad practice and will make people not trust verbal agreements in the future from raptors front office. And if they changed the deal clippers would shop somewhere else too.
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u/lottolser Raptors Sep 14 '26
Either team changing the deal would look bad to all other teams that neither team would be of their word and untrustworthy. Like in the PWHL Detroit made promises to trade their 1st round pick during a roster freeze for Hilary Knight as a sign and trade, they also promised their players and her they'd sign her. After the everything went back to normal Detroit ended up winning the 3rd overall pick they already had promised to trade to Vegas. They could've back out of the trade, but man would that look bad on them so they made the trade and kept their word.
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u/deleted-user Raptors Sep 14 '26
Raptors traded away the two players that contributed the least during the playoffs and replaced them with Kawhi Leonard. Both BI and Gradey were negative contracts - it would've cost a first round pick just to get rid of BI's contract alone.
I'm not surprised the terms haven't changed. Since Kawhi wasn't suspended nothing has changed in the Raptor's perspective. Negotiating in bad faith like that guarantees that other GMs won't trade with you ever again.
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u/YourAsianBuddy Knicks Sep 14 '26
Kawhi barely getting punished and then gets to go back to the Raptors is the finesse of the century.
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u/onefootback Raptors Sep 14 '26
THE EAST BETTER WATCH OUT DEMONS HOMEEE
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u/samhit_n Lakers Sep 14 '26
It’s crazy that 3 teams out of the Pacers, Pistons, Cavs, Magic, Hawks, Heat, Wizards, Raptors, Knicks, Celtics, and 76ers could miss the playoffs in the East next season.
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u/cleo22270 Heat Sep 14 '26
Ballmer wanted Board Man to sweat one out before making the trade.
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u/MddlingAges Knicks Sep 14 '26
I'm not sure I would have done it if I was him. Because if Kawhi DOES WIN THE CHAMPIONSHIP NOW, THE YEAR BEFORE AND AFTER HE WORKED FOR ME WHILE FAKING INJURIES TO EXTORT ME FOR ILLEGAL INCOME that would just be a supervillain story arc. I don't think I could face it without torching the whole thing down at least symbolically.
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u/rejus_crust Raptors Sep 14 '26
Idk why so many Raptors fans (and other fanbases) are tripping about this.
We are clearly more likely to be a good basketball team with Kawhi Leonard than we are with Brandon Ingram and Gradey Dick (and whoever those picks turn out to be in the future).
This is more likely to move us closer to contention than the assets we are giving up would.
No need to overthink things.
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u/sportsinaround Hornets Sep 14 '26 edited Sep 14 '26
In terms of basketball Kawhi seems fairly healthy and just made an All-NBA team last season with 28ppg on nearly 50/40/90 splits. Sure, he remains a health risk, but people acting like moving on from BI to Kawhi isn't massive are genuinely stupid. Scottie has been getting better and better and RJ has come a long way from where he started as well. One of their biggest issues was individual shot creation causing stagnation when the game slows down which Kawhi excels at. They have a good mix of size and defense. Nearly won 50 games last season and took Cavs to 7. Now they've added a multiple time champion who is levels better than BI.
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u/Kingcanute99 Sep 14 '26
And 3 players (KL, SB, CMB) who are elite defenders against like size players, and can switch 1 to 5 somewhere between good enough and perfectly.
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u/jakers300 76ers Sep 14 '26
3 firsts really softens the blow of their punishment
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u/NinfthWonder Raptors Sep 14 '26
Those picks are likely going to be at the end of the draft, especially on the front end.
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u/r3d-wolv3s Sep 14 '26
Raptors are a real contending top 4 team again. Buckle up.
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u/HedonCalculator Raptors Sep 14 '26
The East is such a fking blood bath this year. Hoping for a Raps vs Sixers series. Would be so cathartic for the winning team.
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u/PropDrops Sep 14 '26
Kawhi has an opportunity to do the funniest thing now
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u/SnooCupcakes3114 Sep 14 '26
Ask for an under the table deal?
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u/ag_fan Magic Sep 14 '26 edited Sep 14 '26
win a title and leave for LA
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u/BeesPhD Raptors Sep 14 '26
I'd be okay with this only if he also ruins the lakers for the next 10 years.
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u/PropDrops Sep 14 '26
I was thinking just a title but winning and then heading to the Lakers would be extra funny
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u/LukeBabbittologist Sep 14 '26
This year was on par with 2016 and 2019 off seasons and this was absolutely the craziest off season of the 2020's decade. 2016 will always be number one I've personally witnessed though between KD and once in a life time league wide cap boost that is now illegal in the CBA
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u/ForsakenCherry8333 Spurs Sep 14 '26
2018 free agency/trades gotta be the most random ones in league history ever, like kawhi to raptors, bron to lakers, demarcus cousins to the warriors, tony parker to the hornets, melo to houston, dwight to washington, and then the draft with trae, luka, and shai.
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u/AlwaysRightNeverLeft Nuggets Sep 14 '26
How is the pick swap gonna work? The Clippers dont have anything to swap...
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u/Redpin :sp8-1: Super 8 Sep 14 '26
Well you see, uh, when you swap, uh, lemme start over, the picks, they uh...
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u/sammybwise53 Lakers Sep 14 '26
All I saw when I skimmed the paragraph was “Dick” and “unprotected”
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u/FeeNegative9488 Sep 14 '26
So at the end of the day this boils down to the Clippers only having 2 1sts in a 5 year span. That’s a common occurrence in the NBA.
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u/steeeeeeee24 Raptors Sep 14 '26
I don’t hate getting Kawhi as he’s the best we can ever get, but I hate that the clippers are getting actual compensation. We shoulda said kick rocks
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u/bta47 Warriors Sep 14 '26
clippers had to trade him, but they didn't have to trade him to you so they still had enough leverage to get compensation. lots of teams would have liked to get him even with... everything
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u/Haunting_Test_5523 Sep 14 '26
The Clippers can also say kick rocks to a deal that doesnt involve unprotected picks
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u/sakata32 [LAC] Sam Cassell Sep 14 '26
They you wouldnt get kawhi. I'm sure detroit would do a kawhi rental for 1 pick.
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u/RelevantTreacle3004 76ers Sep 14 '26
Why is everyone saying that the Raptors got fleeced now? It was a good trade then and it's a good trade now.
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u/Independent-Size-258 Sep 14 '26
What happens if the clippers don't have a pick to swap?
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u/TheI-Iound Sep 14 '26
Gradey Dick has been the single biggest stain on TORs otherwise spectacular draft record over the passed several years. Glad to put Dick behind us
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u/gtahnyo San Diego Clippers Sep 14 '26
I can't believe we got this package. Raptors fans were convincing me they were gonna away with a single pick.
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u/brainspl0ad Clippers Sep 14 '26
Man. Get him the fuck outta here. Who knew I'd be more excited about him leaving than signing him to begin with.
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u/Chrisdkn619 Lakers Sep 14 '26
Raptors owner doing Ballmer a solid on his way out. I'm sure it's a wink and a nod as they all try and pull the same shit
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u/SkepticCritic Sep 14 '26
Better to not fry relationships down the line a decade from now, anything can happen in the NBA
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u/clayfu Clippers Sep 14 '26
Yaaaaaa. Now the clippers officially have picks in four of the next 7 years.
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u/Prof-Ponderosa Mavericks Sep 14 '26
How do you do a 1st round pick swap when you don't have 1st round picks to swap?
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u/Financial-Grass-6114 Sep 15 '26
This is why I dont think clippers are as screwed as people think (atleast from an assets POV). Their front office team management are decent so they'll bounce back quickly. They just got unlucky with this Kawhi and Paul George bet.
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u/zeroxray Vancouver Grizzlies Sep 15 '26
Contract should be voided and trade nullified. This trade benefits the cheaters too much
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u/AtreusIsBack NBA Sep 15 '26
Now imagine what the Luka trade would have looked like if Nico wasn't such a snake and shadow traded him. The haul would be biblical.
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u/catscanmeow Raptors Sep 14 '26
man imagine how awkward it would have been for BI and Gradey to come back to the Raptors.
that would be soul killing, Dalton Knecht style, never the same again