r/mildlyinfuriating • • 3h ago

frist of all how DARE yu o Store manager called out then asked me to find someone to work.

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For context, I worked anyways from 2-10. She was supposed to be in from 4-12. She texts me around 3 asking if I can close, I assumed that she meant she just needed to be home earlier and would work 4-10 instead, so I said yes. 4 pm comes, then 4:15 I text her asking if she's still coming in because she's never been this late. She says she's not gonna make it and I can call someone else to come in. SHES the store manager. Not me. I get paid minimum wage.

So I called our GM, explained, and then learned that she didn't tell out GM she was calling out either. Just me. So she's rushing to find one of the three people listed to come in. Its a busy rainy night, at an escape room, on a Friday. We are packed. I was lucky the rush didn't start until around 6, which by then the calvary had already arrived and the night went smoothly. Still irritating though.

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u/linklen2000 2h ago

The text does read like they won't be in at all, at least to me

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u/Mrbazzanator 2h ago

yeah the "im needed at home" seems like theyre asking to cover their shift

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u/Dependent-Trip-5991 2h ago

Yeah thought so too, but doesn’t excuse her not finding supporting coverage, if they’re a supervisor they should know it’s not just about their shift, unless the supervisor didn’t realize op was already scheduled

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u/Sentientmustard 2h ago edited 1h ago

Since OP said “the calvary” arrived by 6 so the night went smoothly, it sounds like there was plenty of supporting coverage. OPs manager seems to have just told OP that they won’t be coming in and asked them to work an additional 2 hours (10-12) since they won’t be there to close. They were going to be short a person no matter what because there was a call out (the manager), and the vast majority of businesses aren’t making emergency call in requests just because they’re short 1 employee.

TBH this seems pretty reasonable and OP just didn’t understand what they were being asked. A manager should be able to take a personal day off when needed and Louie, Ryan, and TJ should be able to have days off of work without being asked to come in and cover a full 8 hour shift. If OP had texted that it was too busy for them to handle while short a person and their manager said it’s not their problem that would’ve been a different story, though.

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u/HughmongusDixus 1h ago

I think you misunderstood what OP said. OP had to call the GM and say the manager isn’t coming in, which they were not told. The GM then found someone to cover the manager’s shift, aka the cavalry. The manager just decided not to come in, told no one but OP, expected OP to find someone to cover their shift, and didn’t tell their boss.

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u/thirtychirps 51m ago

Yeah this person seems to think skipping work and not telling your boss is ok because ‘everyone deserves a personal day’, nevermind how it affects your coworkers.

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u/Sentientmustard 46m ago edited 1m ago

That’s how OP framed the situation, but there isn’t enough context to really make an accurate assessment of it (in regards to staffing requirements that is).

How many rooms are running at a time? How many people are needed on shift? How are call outs usually handled? Is there always a replacement found if there are apparently only 5 employees, because that seems highly unlikely? Is the GM normally the one approving callouts and managing staffing and thus needs to be updated, and if so then what’s the point of hiring a store manager? I would imagine the store manager would be responsible for deciding who and how many people are working on a given day. The only additional communication OP posted is a text from the GM asking OP if they can also cover tomorrow nights shift for the manager, so it doesn’t really seem like they were surprised or angry at the manager. It’s very possible that the manager didn’t have a chance to update the GM quite yet, but OP called upset so the GM just decided to call somebody else in to avoid a problem rather than calling someone in out of actual necessity.

I’m not saying OP is lying by any means, but all that we’ve really been shown is a regular text exchange and the GM asking OP to cover tomorrow, which doesn’t really inspire me to be outraged lol.

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u/Ham__Kitten 2h ago edited 37m ago

OP was literally already at work and was being asked to extend their shift to 10 hours which is almost the wildest part to me

Edit: I can't read

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u/Discorhy 1h ago

When I worked at good ol Wally World for weeks because an overnight supervisor was out I covered my shift and his. So was doing doubles everyday. I asked about swapping to his but got fed some bullshit line that my younger self just ate up.

Plus the hours helped a lot at the time. But I can’t imagine doing that today.

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u/mirrx 1h ago

It was only a 2 hour difference tho. If she stayed til 12 instead of 10 she worked a 10 hour shift

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u/Sentientmustard 1h ago edited 1h ago

I mean to be fair depending on the employee count it’s not always as simple as asking other people to come in. The manager deserves to be able to take a personal day off, and Louie, Ryan, and TJ deserve to have days off of work without their manager unexpectedly asking them to come in and work an 8 hour shift.

Also OP worked from 2-12, so it was a 10 hour shift. Not ideal still, but not as bad as a full shift and a half.

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u/thirtychirps 53m ago

Man these comments are nonsense. Of course managers deserve days off, but not in a drop everything and don’t tell anyone and not get coverage until the day of, but only for closing and not for the rest of the shift.

If there’s an emergency let the right people know. That’s the bare minimum.

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u/Cubbance 2h ago

I agree, but it's pretty hard to cover someone's shift if they're already working that shit. So the manager knew she'd be shorting OP and didn't proactively try to get someone else to come in and cover for her. Poor form.

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u/nipslippinjizzsippin 2h ago

yea same, if they are needed at home why would they be comming in?

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u/DJTurd 1h ago edited 1h ago

Yes, it does. However, if there need to be two people at all times, and you’re asking the only other person to extend their shift by two hours as “the favor,” why would they be expected to call somebody else in to also cover their shift?

Never mind the fact that they’re the manager who, you’d think, is in charge of staffing.

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u/bliming1 2h ago

Thats what I thought at first but then op said they already were working 2-10 so why would you ask someone to take your shift who's already scheduled? At that point your just calling off with extra steps. So I get where op is coming from

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u/ToastingFrench_ 2h ago

I def saw that angle, but at the same time if you were calling out don't tell me tell someone who can do something about it. I can't call in another coworker, nor is it my responsibility to.

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u/nipslippinjizzsippin 2h ago

well the manager has you covering their shift, i would assume that make you the manager. thus giving you hat ability (sans pay... of course)

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u/Potential_Bit_9040 1h ago

Bruh, you are the cover.

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u/mirrx 1h ago

If it was just op and manager scheduled, then no, she isn’t the cover. They are covering 10-12 for the manager. That’s it. That leaves op alone until the next person scheduled comes in.

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u/DipschitzContinuous 33m ago

How is OP the cover if they’re already scheduled. That’s not how coverage works. If they went from two employees down to one because the manager isn’t present, that’s not coverage, that’s being understaffed. The manager replacing herself so OP has another manager on duty staffed with them would be coverage.

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u/ToastingFrench_ 1h ago

How am I the cover if I'm already at work 😭😭. We need two people on shift. I opened, second person comes in later. If shes calling out as the second person then IM the one that needs cover.

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u/Metalheadzaid 1h ago

Yeah so like it's obvious to me she isn't coming in and needs someone to come in/cover - the issue you're having is you're not a fucking manager or assistant manager it sounds like, so like, as a retail worker making minimum wage you're sitting here like "wtf is going on, why am I here alone."

So yeah, you did nothing wrong. This is on your manager and any assistant manager - you are 100% correct you are not the one who should be calling anyone else in, nor making any plans nor working solo. You aren't even equipped to know what to do or paid to.

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u/GoodishCoder 1h ago

Why can't you call in a coworker?

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u/ToastingFrench_ 1h ago

It's not my job to call in a coworker, nor do they pay me enough to do so.

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u/tsanchz22 1h ago

are you in a supervisor role at all?

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u/GoodishCoder 1h ago

That's definitely a mentality you can keep but it's probably not going to work how you want it to in the long run.

It probably won't hurt you in your current role but as you move into your long term career, that mentality is going to have you wondering why all of your peers seem to move up faster than you.

As a side note there's a good chance your manager isn't making that much more than you at an escape room. When I was a manager of an arcade back in the day I made like a dollar more than everyone else per hour.

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u/thirtychirps 55m ago

lol the manager didn’t even delegate “find coverage for me” to OP until OP had to ask if the manager wasn’t coming in at all.

How hard is it for a manager to manage to not only ask for someone to close but to also call for help? Did the manager just forget?

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u/GoodishCoder 46m ago

OP is the managers coverage. The manager asked OP to cover, OP said yes.

The manager isn't there to make the call on if help is needed. OP was empowered to make that call but got fixated on job titles instead of making a decision to reach out.

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u/Symboli 40m ago

Nah that's not it at all, you can cover a manager's shift on the floor but telling them they have to do all the managers duties is straight wrong.

If I covered a managers shift at Starbucks when I worked there they weren't asking me to do the schedule, check payroll, why would they? You think they want untrained people running the store?

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u/GoodishCoder 36m ago

No one asked OP to make the schedule or check payroll. Acting like making 1 to 3 phone calls is the equivalent of running the store is absurd.

They gave OP 3 people's names and gave them the go ahead to call one of them in. Its such tiny responsibility that most retail establishments simply allow key holders to do it.

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u/Symboli 32m ago

It's not absurd lmao, you just don't understand the liability of handing the responsibilities of a manager to a non-manager. You can cover a manager's shift on the floor WITHOUT having manager responsibilities.

You say its absurd to compare to payroll, no it's not, manager's were trained to do things like scheduling and calling people, its THEIR RESPONSIBILITY. You may have had it differently where you worked but any established business would never allow a non manager take an actual managers* shift including responsibilities

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u/YouGlittering9156 9m ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/h8HmN0UcEKR0xWnv3R

OP's a teenager working at an escape room for minimum wage.

Their manager called out and didn't ask them to find a replacement.

In what world should OP be micromanaging their manager you dolt? LMAO

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u/Atalanta8 1h ago

Yeah op lacks reading comprehension skills.

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u/cryptolyme 2h ago

yea, should've asked for clarification..

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u/Scroatpig 2h ago

I agree.

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u/hung-tho 1h ago

i don’t see it that way at all, they didn’t ask them to cover the shift, they asked them to close. OP was already scheduled, just not to be there til closing, the manager was scheduled to close. it absolutely reads like they were still going to work, but just needed to leave early.

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u/BluMqqse_ 2h ago

I would've assumed first text meant they could not show up period. What does ortr mean?

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u/its-just_me- 2h ago

I’m thinking a typo, meant to type orrr but the t is right next to the r

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u/nbd789 1h ago

Or it could be some sort of internal jargon for their rooms since OP thought they were still working a shift, just not closing

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u/Dependent-Trip-5991 2h ago

I’m thinking they asked not realizing they were already scheduled

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u/thirtychirps 48m ago

I read it the way OP did. Manager didn’t get coverage for their whole shift, only the last 2 hrs from someone who was already working.

OP assumed they’d be there, because if they were going to be gone all day, a reasonable person would get coverage for that whole day.

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u/MrShinyNinja 42m ago edited 37m ago

There's no time included on any of this. So how can you "assume" such? The cover would be the last 2 hours.

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u/thirtychirps 35m ago

Read the paragraphs. OP was scheduled 2 to 10. Manager was scheduled 4 to 12. The business closes at 12.

“Can you close?” means “can you work until 12 tonight instead of 10?”

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u/Dan_flashes480 2h ago

I had a manager at Wendys that would leave to bang his girlfriend and leave me their till he showed up to close the registers. I called in 2 hours before a shift saying my wife (girlfriend at the time) found out her mom has stage 3 cancer and is going to go see her so I can't come in and need to watch my kids. He said I was the only one that could speak English and needed me on the drive through. I said he could can speak English and could do it but he told me I could be fired over this. I said I quit I don't need this job. ( It was a second job I was going for my electrical license in like 6 months and wanted extra cash for Christmas). He told my I still had to come in I just said bye and ignored the calls.

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u/Bad-Luck-Guy 2h ago

Yeah I definitely read this as she won’t be in at all.

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u/McNalienBro 2h ago

Me too, she asked the person to close for her, meaning she’s not coming back.

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u/thirtychirps 45m ago

…As if she couldn’t stay late that night. Not as if she wouldn’t be there at all.

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u/BlazeBitch 48m ago

I mean. I'm needed at home 100% reads as not being able to make it in.

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u/PuddingMent 2h ago

She asked you to cover for her because she’s needed at home. How else could you interpret that?

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u/thirtychirps 29m ago

“I am needed at home at 10:30pm so I can’t be the one that closes, can you?”

Not “hey instead of 16hrs of employees working between 2 people, today is going to be just 10h of employees working, and those hours are all going to be you because I gotta go. I know you may need help, but I didn’t think to address that until 4:15pm after you texted me. Hope you figure it out though!”

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u/PM_YOUR__BUBBLE_BUTT 26m ago

I’m shocked how many people are saying this here. Did every single person miss the detail that OP was ALREADY WORKING A SHIFT the same day? It’s like people never worked these type of jobs like retail or restaurants or similar.

If you are already on a shift and someone asks you a question about closing, they are asking if you can stay later. You don’t magically become two people if someone says they’re going to be off. The only way the managers question makes sense is staying later that night. I’m baffled how anyone could take it any other way. If OP wasn’t working a shift, then I would take it as they wanted you to cover their whole shift but that’s the only way it makes sense.

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u/thirtychirps 11m ago

I’m baffled too. Apparently everyone is just cool with coworkers leaving and letting them handle everything. Payroll has 16h of work between two people today? We’ll just let one person do it all in 10h.

Do people realize that understaffing makes work suck way more? If working at understaffed locations paid you higher proportionally then maybe it’d be aokay. But that never happens.

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u/ToastingFrench_ 2h ago

Update: Literally moments after I posted this I got this text form our GM.

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u/AI-is-infinite 2h ago

Why do you say yes to these things lol

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u/FutureLarge8833 2h ago

Money. Obviously. OP isn't doing it for free lol

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u/ToastingFrench_ 2h ago

Correct. Minimum wage here is 15 bucks, I'm not giving that up. 😭😭

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u/Dependent-Trip-5991 2h ago

To be honest seems if gm said that they talked to the person and wasn’t so nice and wants to make sure store is covered since they held that person responsible.

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u/GoodishCoder 1h ago

That seems like a reach. It could just as easily be the gm reached out to check on the manager and just asked if they would be able to make it in the next day and got an "I'm not sure" in response so they reached out to people to make sure they were covered.

Most leaders are reasonable people that understand humans get sick sometimes.

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u/AI-is-infinite 2h ago

I’m confused. If minimum wage is $15 couldn’t you get that anywhere that doesn’t treat you like crap?

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u/vertical-luau-pig 2h ago

The job market is terrible, friend.

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u/Groundbreaking_Act44 2h ago

Exactly. Money isn't earned through wishes and good intentions.

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u/Connect-Idea-1944 RED 1h ago

People don’t realize we’re not in 2013 anymore where you can just quit at 10am and find a new job by 2pm

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u/j4schum1 2h ago

But it's an escape room. Your customers are all there to have fun. Probably a relatively enjoyable job compared to the other alternatives at that pay.

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u/ToastingFrench_ 2h ago

It is such an easy job. I actually love it.

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u/countrymud 2h ago

Take the initiative and go for Amanda's position 😂

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u/ToastingFrench_ 2h ago

She got ten years under her belt here, so while I don't think I'll be usurping her, it makes this situation a fair bit more frustrating.

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u/P4TY 1h ago

Not that I have life figured out, but I mentor people sometimes and I would advise you to stop telling yourself no, and make other people do it.

In other words, ten years doesn’t mean shit. Sounds like this person sucks at their job, and you’re consistently stepping up.

Email this GM person directly and say you’d like to take on more responsibility and grow at the company. Don’t ask to replace this person, but show initiative.

The GM is unlikely to tell you “no.”

But never take on more responsibility for the same pay, of course.

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u/BackgroundParsnip837 1h ago

Don't sell yourself short. If you are already covering for them then you are already doing at least part of the job

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u/lungonion 2h ago

this. sometimes competitive pay isn’t worth dreading going in every day. at my current workplace a 16 hour shift feels is a breeze and feels far shorter than every 6-8 hr retail shift i’ve had the displeasure of working because im not miserable while working there.

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u/Pittsbirds 2h ago

Where are these jobs with minimum wage that don't treat you like crap

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u/lI-Norte-Il 2h ago

How are they treating OP like crap? They're asking OP to work and OP said yes. Communication could be better but that's it

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u/cryptolyme 2h ago

better stick with the crap you know you can handle

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u/ExtremelyOkay8980 1h ago

Um.. what economy and job market are YOU living in

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u/berriesnbball_17 1h ago

Job market sucks and they might not be able to get as many hours elsewhere. We also have no idea if they’re treated like crap with this little context lol their supervisor could be having a family crisis or issue and this is just a wonky week while they’re figuring it out. Shit happens

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u/aruby727 2h ago

Someone who understands the value of hard work. Kudos to you for digging in and hustling. You've got a bright future, I can tell.

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u/kyrakitty21 2h ago

Why are you complaining about the behavior if you're enabling it? 💀

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u/BluMqqse_ 2h ago

I assume you have zero complaints on a daily basis at work then? You continue showing up and enabling it!

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u/aruby727 2h ago

I complain about cleaning giant messes every night in my home but do it anyways. People can complain about things without demanding solutions. Minor grievances are often a byproduct of hard work.

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u/movzx 1h ago

Most people can't pay bills with "I stood up for myself at work"

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u/cryptolyme 2h ago

this is the time to ask for a raise

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u/Seethcoomers 2h ago

Extra money

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u/NEOscav9 2h ago

The better question is why the hell would you give management your cell number, that's a big ol no no

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u/hundopdeftotes 2h ago

I’m pretty sure that’s a common thing now since no one has a landline.

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u/NEOscav9 2h ago

Having it on file for hr if you need to get called in, yeah, sure. But having your manager in your contacts so they have a direct line to you at all times? Yeah thats a big ass no no where i work. I learned the hard way its a horrible idea with my last manager where I work now, only to find out after he left that its explicitly not allowed at all where I work. Figures I'd find that out after the fact when he's gone already.

Would have saved me a hell of a lot of stress had I known that earlier

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u/ToastingFrench_ 2h ago

This isn't like a corporate chain store. It's family owned and we have less than 20 employees. It just makes life easier if my GM can call me and let me know something urgent instead of texting through group me.

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u/NEOscav9 2h ago

Ahhh I gotcha, that makes sense if its not corporate run then

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u/lungonion 2h ago

idk why people set hard lines about this because it literally just depends on where you work. i work at a museum and we don’t have enough walkies so everyone stays in contact through a group chat set up every morning. literally every issue is solved through texts or calls on our personal phones. it’s not an issue though because there’s a ridiculous amount of mutual respect across the board so situations like this just don’t exist. makes its far easier to do… everything.

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u/NEOscav9 2h ago

On paper thats fine, especially in your situation where theres mutual respect between most people in question. In some cases it is legitimately just straight up not allowed (definitely for good reason). I work retail, and having management phone number just doesn't make sense unless you're also management.

I can think of one manager I'd maybe be okay with having my number, but I don't directly work for them so there'd be no point anyway. My direct manager is kind of a useless pos who literally talks to no one in my department so no one has his number, and my store director is kind of a snake so I'd never want her number either.

Other than having a coworker who you're cool withs phone number, there's just absolutely no reason for anyone to be directly talking to management in that way where I work. It actually actively hindered my work when I had my ex managers number

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u/lungonion 2h ago

“idk why people set hard lines about this because it literally just depends on where you work”

im actually gonna backtrack on my take a bit because I have worked about half a dozen retail jobs in my life and I had managers and coworkers numbers at each place. it just made things easier for picking up and offering up shifts, giving notice about attendance etc. maybe it’s some sort of regional thing because where im at in the south it would be weird to not have direct contact information for your coworkers and bosses. come to think of it I don’t know a single person in my life that isn’t directly connected to their coworkers and bosses through their cellphone for the absolute convenience of it. truly don’t understand the hard line but i guess i’ve never had managers that overstep basic boundaries with that shit. the only place I have ever worked where i didn’t have the cell numbers of people at my work (and vice versa) was an amazon warehouse (which, like, obviously)

i’m not trying to be rude or even respond to your take directly here, but honestly, i don’t know what the big deal is about getting a text from a manager asking you to come in? people must really hate their jobs or coworkers or something. my girlfriend works retail and is in a massive group chat with her coworkers where they yap all the time. boundaries will sometimes be crossed at a workplace regardless of the means or method but if you have a solid team people like that don’t last long.

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u/MagnetHype 1h ago

I text my employees all the time to let them know they aren't needed and can stay home if they want. You're saying you would prefer to have to drive all the way in to work, just to get sent home?

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u/hundopdeftotes 2h ago

Ah that makes sense then. It’s normal where I work as it’s a restaurant. So it works both ways. People call in sick through texts, management asks why you’re late, asks if you can work etc.

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u/NEOscav9 2h ago

Shit I wish we cold do that haha. It's pretty hard to get legitimately in trouble for anything where I work, but if you called off through text to someone, that's a good way to guarantee you get murdered on your next shift 😂

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u/Sufficient_Energy_32 2h ago

How else are they supposed to contact you?

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u/NEOscav9 2h ago

Already said in another comment it makes sense to have it on file for hr, so they can attempt to call you in if extra help is needed, but contact me for what? My responsibilities for work start when i go in and stop when I leave. Anything that needs to be relayed to me should be relayed to me while I'm actively there. If I'm not on the clock, what work needs from me means jack diddly to me

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u/italwaysworksoot 1h ago

Stop moaning if you’re good with helping out.

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u/rosegoldblonde 51m ago

It sounded to me like she wasn’t coming in

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u/mr_glide 1h ago

I can't see that she gave you any reason to assume what you assumed

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u/thirtychirps 44m ago

Because she didn’t get coverage for the rest of the day she skipped out on. That is a reasonable expectation, so OP assumed that they were just asking for help in letting them leave early.

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u/MakeMeDrink 2h ago

They are literally telling you they need to call out and therefore are asking you to work. Then you agreed to work. Next time say “no” if it is an issue.

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u/ToastingFrench_ 2h ago edited 2h ago

I already worked. There is no "I agreed to work" because when she sent the first message I was already sitting clocked in. I agreed to work an extra TWO HOURS.

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u/GaiaMoore 42m ago

If I'm understanding correctly, this isn't about the extra two hours.

This is about the fact that you were supposed to have overlapping shifts with your manager, and you thought she would be there for most of the shift but would head out early while you closed up.

You didn't realize she intended to leave you as the only person working what is supposed to be a two-person job during the bulk of the escape room work when guests are there.

And she also made no effort to get someone else to cover her shift so that you wouldn't be the only person there, and made no effort to let anyone else or her manager know, either

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u/thirtychirps 19m ago

100%

Op was happy to cover a quarter of the managers shift.

OP is mildly infuriated that their manager abandoned the other three quarters of their shift completely without finding coverage. That’s super reasonable.

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u/gerber411420 1h ago

If you close at ten and she asked you to close, wouldn't you work until well, close ?

People work doubles, not a crazy concept, but you're probably 16.

Where are you agreeing to an additional TWO HOURS. 

If these questions are upsetting, look around, I'm not the only one thinking this.

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u/GaiaMoore 39m ago

People work doubles, not a crazy concept, but you're probably 16.

Wild that you think this is a remotely reasonable take if OP actually is that young.

Forcing a 16 year old underage girl to work a double shift at an escape room by herself around a bunch of strangers in the middle of the night sounds like a terrible idea.

All of you guys lack reading comprehension. It's really not that hard to read the facts that OP's boss left OP completely alone.

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u/ToastingFrench_ 1h ago

We don't close at 10, we close at 12. So, I went from not closing to closing. If it was a normal shift I would've left at 10 while the other person stayed until 12 to, well, close.

Edit: For clarification. That means the last room books at 12. Each room is an hour, so now you're here until at the very least 1-1:30 am.

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u/UnkyjayJ 1h ago

You agree to close though wtf are you on about. Don't say yes when asked to do something if you don't wanna do it. You're the worst kind of college I hope you know that

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u/LOIL99 1h ago

It’s really not that difficult. Job takes 2 people during core hours. OP was already at work. Manager calls and asks if they can close. They said yes. So they now work until 12 instead of 10. But manager didn’t call someone to work the rest of their shift so OP now working alone all day.

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u/Yontep 1h ago

You lack reading comprehension my man

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u/ToastingFrench_ 1h ago

I didn't say I didn't want to do it. I'm confused at the disconnect. The post is labeled "Store manager called out and asked me to find someone to work." The frustrating part is the store MANAGER asking ME to find someone else to work when it's her job to do so as a manager, and because she called out. I agreed because I was already there, and like my original post mentions, thought she was just going to leave early instead of me.

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u/Munster19 1h ago

they responded to your text asking ~'if they'd be in' suggesting people who could come in because you sounded like you might need help

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u/ToastingFrench_ 1h ago

Yes, and I'm the wrong person to suggest this too considering if she's calling out she needs to talk to HER manager, in this case, GM. Not me.

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u/thirtychirps 24m ago

Yeah sounds like the manager knew they’d need help and didn’t arrange it and put it on OP at 4:15pm after the shift already started.

Why would the manager suggest help randomly like they did?

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u/babarambo 56m ago

You’re missing the whole part where it’s a Friday night packed and 1 employee couldn’t handle everyone by themselves. The complaint isn’t that the manager asked her to close, it’s that the MANAGER called out and left OP all alone to either find help or deal with the situation herself.

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u/thirtychirps 26m ago

Bro come on now. Between her and the manager they are doing 16 total hours of work. The manager leaving and not finding coverage for their whole 8h means OP is doing 16h worth of work, but only in 10h.

That’s shitty.

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u/UnkyjayJ 12m ago

Sure but don't say you can If you can't

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u/thirtychirps 7m ago

Can or can’t what? Op was happy to work 10pm to 12pm. Op never had any say in working from 4pm to 10pm down a staff member because their manager decided not to get coverage for that part of their shift.

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u/Ill_Veterinarian_172 1h ago

I'm sorry people's reading comprehension is poor.

You got asked to close, an extra 2 hours.

"Needed at home" wasn't specified right at that moment.

So, it is safe to insinuate that the manager was needed after 10 and before 12.

The manager should have been more clear.

This follow up sounds like something bad happened, which is why they were unclear.

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u/thirtychirps 22m ago

I’m surprised at OPs downvotes lol. Say OP was already closing — would the manager just have no showed and not have said anything, since the only reason she texted was to make sure someone was there to close?

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u/Delver_Razade GREEN 55m ago

You still agreed to work. She said she couldn't cover her shift, she was giving you her shift. It was on you to point out you already had a shift if you thought she was unaware. Come on. Is this your first job?

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u/thirtychirps 20m ago

The manager gave OP a quarter of her shift. She never found coverage for the remaining 3/4ths of it.

Manager knew OP was working. She didn’t ask “hey can you work today” she asked “hey can you close”.

Also lol you think it’s reasonable for a manager to be unaware of their employees shifts?

I feel like I’m taking crazy pills with these comments I’m seeing. wtf.

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u/Delver_Razade GREEN 10m ago

I've had managers ask me that very thing, using those exact words in that exact phrase knowing I was off that day. That's not an unusual or unclear meaning of those words.

Also I don't know your work history but a middle manager in a minimum wage job not knowing everyone on the schedule especially if they don't have it right in front of them? It doesn't matter if I think it's reasonable or not, the reality is that that's so common that you asking me if it's reasonable is unreasonable. If I had a dollar for every mid-level manager at a minimum wage job who didn't have a clue who was on shift without the schedule stapled to their face I wouldn't have had to work at least two of those jobs.

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u/thirtychirps 2m ago

Ok so what you’re suggesting is that this manager could have been saying “hey I don’t know if you’re working today but can you close? I don’t think it’s necessary for me to discuss a start time of your shift if you’re not working, I just need to discuss when it would end, and that’s at close.”

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u/thirtychirps 46m ago

I don’t understand why you’re getting downvoted. You’re not wrong, and this sub is called “mildly infuriating”, which it’s not like you’re having some huge reaction. It’s just mildly infuriating that your manager ditched you the day of without a plan.

They even knew you’d likely need help—since they were the one to suggest who to call.

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u/Fabulous_Witness_935 1h ago

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u/squishypoo91 1h ago

It was really obvious they were asking for coverage and you agreed bro

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u/thirtychirps 43m ago

Only in the last 2 hours. They did not arrange coverage for the rest of their shift.

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u/MrShinyNinja 44m ago edited 40m ago

The poster is an absolute gas lighter. The texts are clear. The ask was to cover till close

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u/Appropriate_Donut590 1h ago

“I’m needed at home” what about them saying they’ll be home is telling you they’ll be coming in. What a terrible lack of literacy

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u/Snoo-69774 27m ago

“I need you to close” close. Close. 

Not “you’ll be alone all shift”  But instead “you’ll be the person closing up”

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u/BoiledFrogs 17m ago

Why would they text them about it if they're going to see them at work shortly and can ask them then? They're only going to text if they're not coming in.

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u/thirtychirps 40m ago

“I need to be home early” was my initial read.

Manager is the one that suggested people to call for help. Manager knew needing help may be necessary. They didn’t cover their own shift anyway.

Imagine if OP was already closing this day. Manager presumably would have just never said anything (since the only thing they asked about was closing) and not come in when scheduled. Is that reasonable?

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u/GoodishCoder 1h ago

I don't really understand the issue. They asked you to cover -> you agreed -> you clarified they wouldn't be in at all -> they confirmed and offered additional resources you could reach out to if you need help.

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u/thirtychirps 58m ago

Nonsense. The manager left this person to fend for themselves.

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u/GoodishCoder 49m ago

They didn't though. OP agreed to cover for their manager and their manager gave them names of people to contact if they needed help.

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u/thirtychirps 38m ago

Op agreed to cover the last 2 hours, they never discussed covering the rest of the managers day. Op couldn’t cover that shift, they were already working.

The manager is the one that told them who to call for help, unprompted. The manager knew help would be needed and didn’t even address that proactively.

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u/GoodishCoder 31m ago

They asked OP to close which was an extra 2 hours on their shift. Logically the expectation would be that should OP agree, they stay for that time instead of leaving and coming back. OP objectively agreed to cover the shift.

The manager might not have known help would be needed. Have you ever worked retail? Sometimes it's super slow and you don't need additional coverage. If that happens on days when everyone is there, you just send people home. If it's a slow day and you call someone in only to send them home, you suck.

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u/thirtychirps 15m ago

This isn’t retail this is an escape room on a Friday night.

Idk what you’re on about with “leaving and coming back”

The manager got coverage for a quarter of their scheduled shift (10-12), and didn’t get coverage for the other three quarters. That’s shitty.

Apparently didn’t even tell their own boss. How is that defensible?

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u/GoodishCoder 2m ago

Escape rooms would be in the broad category of retail. Having worked at an arcade early on in my work history and eventually becoming a manager I can confirm sometimes the nights you expect to be busy aren't and the days you expect to be dead are swamped.

The manager got coverage for the part of their shift that would have been a gap on the schedule and provided resources to reach out to if anything beyond that was needed.

Whether or not they made the right call in failing to notify the district manager depends on the expectations the district manager has for their employees. Some managers take the stance that they don't care as long as business hours are covered. If they didn't make the right call, that's something for the manager and district manager to work out when the manager returns.

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u/ValarielAmarette 1h ago

They did. It was OP. They just misunderstood and assumed they would be finishing and then coming back at the end of the managers shift

A text is not the correct way to have this conversation from either side

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u/GoodishCoder 1h ago

The manager got their shift covered but was not present to know if an additional resource was needed. They empowered OP to make that call and ask people to come in.

Some of you get way too fixated on exact job descriptions. In my experience people hyper fixated on their job description are the same people complaining that they're being passed over for promotions.

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u/Albedo0001 1h ago

Despite you already working and having a schedule, they're asking you to close their shift which appears to be a few more hours. You said yes and then pikachu face when they said they're not coming in?

Shitty manager to ask you (I assume you're not in management at all) to find extra help, but this one is pretty cut in dry imo. You somehow read that and severely misinterpreted it. Oh well.

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u/SweatUnderMahTits 1h ago

"asked me to find someone to work."

"if you need a hand"

>.>

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u/Affectionate_Dot2643 1h ago

I understood this to mean they would still be working but finishing earlier as you had overlapping shifts and they just wanted to go home earlier.

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u/dego_frank 26m ago

Damn you misread the text then ratted them out to the GM. Good luck at your next job

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u/Lanky-Welder-4519 1h ago

Nah bruh you need to lock in and read

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u/Lazy-Interests 2h ago

You say she’s never usually late, does she ever do anything like this, like does she have a history of things like this?

If not it could be something really serious going on at home and she’s just not got the time or emotional capacity to handle work things right now

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u/ToastingFrench_ 1h ago

Shes a typical manager. Doesn't really help out, always on her phone, etc. Not a BAD manager. Which was why this was mild.

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u/Lazy-Interests 1h ago

These type of managers piss me off, but again if she’s not usually skipping out on the actual shifts and getting overs to cover, this could be a real emergency scenario so I’d give her the benefit of the doubt

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u/italwaysworksoot 1h ago

That’s not a typical manager. That’s just what you think is what is a typical manager

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u/Intelligent-Whole366 1h ago

Yeah they said they’ll be at home….You kinda tattled on your manager going to the GM. I dunno your guys dynamic and I know it’s not your job but my philosophy is just figure it out on your own. Then your manager owes you and it shows you have manager potential. Next time just text coworkers if they wanna come in, some like you, just want extra hours. But I get it, retail/service sucks ass.

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u/Mrsmyrke 4m ago

That's a load of rubbish, it doesn't show management potential at all lol. It shows that you are a push over for a slacker. Manager should sort her own cover out

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u/Strachmed 1m ago

Fuck that

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u/ToastingFrench_ 1h ago

I didn't mean to tattle. I was just as surprised to know she didn't tell the GM before coming to me, because I thought that was just a given. Here's to hoping I didn't get her in trouble 😬

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u/ADelusionalStudent 1h ago

It's really crazy how you didn't seem to have a single thought in your head during this entire process.

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u/DipschitzContinuous 36m ago

Na fuck that, if the staff manager didn’t tell the GM that she wasn’t there and she was supposed to, that’s on her, not OP. Don’t pull shady shit with chain of command, it’s not fair to the staff under her who make minimum wage. It’s not OP’s responsibility to cover for the SM shirking her responsibilities and trying to hide it from the GM. 

OP is just trying to make it through their shift.

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u/ADelusionalStudent 31m ago

Right sure agreed manager should've told the GM. But OP just said she hopes she didn't get her manager in trouble, and stated she didn't think that first message was the manager calling out. It's a genuinely insane to me that someone can just shut off their brain to that level. It really seems like zero thoughts were had by OP. Head full of air

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u/Tresident-Prump 30m ago

Wtf dude, she is right. Get yourself checked.

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u/GrapeChoice4010 1h ago edited 57m ago

I was way more confused by the context, then the texts. What do you think close tonight means. Do you close at 4pm. How is that confusing. To be fair, if the shift usually has two people then yeah dick move. After the GM call, Sounds like your equal now though. He ain't doing that shit again.

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u/Mcpops1618 42m ago

If my boss texted me with those emojis or emojis at all I’d know I’m out.

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u/ToastingFrench_ 40m ago

LMFAO i didn't even realize how odd those emojis look esp coming from a manager. 😭✌🏾

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u/slimricc 24m ago

Why did you think they were coming in? Lol they literally got you to cover their shift

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u/Simsima494 8m ago

Guys, they didnt ask to be covered, they asked if they could close. As in stay late enough to close because it was my job to close. Nowhere does it say "i cant come in/can you COVER my shift, you cant cover a shift you were already working. She didnt ask if they would be okay by themselves AND can close. Asking someone to close implies "you stay late, i go early," not "im not coming at all."

because then you would say I cant make it in and also formally call out, which they didnt because the GM didnt know. You cant just, not show up to work and only notify one person.

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u/Wronghand_tactician 1h ago

Op posted this to r/mildlyinfuriating because they knew we’d be the ones mildly infuriated by their lack of reading comprehension skills and efforts to double down.

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u/chungusamongos 58m ago

Am I the only one who read it the same way as OP? If OP has the first cut then I would assume the manager asking them to close means they want to swap shifts, not that they’re not coming in at all.

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u/GaiaMoore 35m ago

I'm with you.

Most people ITT are blasting OP because how dare she think it's unreasonable to be left completely alone to handle multiple escape rooms parties by herself until 1:30-2 in the morning

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u/murasana 45m ago

She owes u a good meal at the very least

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u/ToastingFrench_ 44m ago

Its piling up atp 😭

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u/Top_Stretch_2340 14m ago

As a scheduling manager, I prefer the precovid "quiet quiting" over the "ill be there when I can even though I'm scheduled".

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u/codesine 9m ago

It reads that they will be out, and if OP could do the two extra hours. And if OP realizes it’s rather busy, that maybe one of the three could come in based on OPs judgment call.

Sounds like OP was just given more control of the situation and shoulda communicated back with the SM but then went to the GM instead of contacting back oof.

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u/Help_Anon_27 2h ago

Well you see, the problem behind this is that you work at an escape room

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u/thelagopure 1h ago

Why talk down to someone because of the job they have? Job market sucks, gotta take what you can get.

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u/Help_Anon_27 42m ago

More meant that’s why the manager is the way they are. The manager probably doesn’t give a shit about that job and is just doing it because they have to. No one is working there because their dream is to work at an escape room

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u/18k_gold 2h ago

what boss uses emojis like this? weird

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u/Lazy-Interests 1h ago

One who is friendly with their staff?

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u/flatclown 2h ago

Very infuriating

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u/3fxz_ 1h ago

Ask for bonus