r/mildlyinfuriating • • 13h ago

I'm slightly vexed Started a bank dispute because my spouse…

Mortgage comes out today, so I Zelle my half to my spouse like I always do. Same saved contact I’ve sent money to hundreds of times.

They’re at the gym and text that they haven’t received it. I check my bank account and confirm it’s been sent. They reply, “Still nothing.” Great! I start to panic.

So I call my bank and start the dispute process. I’m answering a ton of questions, and they mention potentially needing a police report because the money was already delivered and accepted. At this point, I’m thinking somehow my half of the mortgage went to a stranger, despite selecting the same damn contact as always.

Then my spouse texts: “Oh, it went to my XXXX account.”

Apparently, they have another account linked to an email address I didn’t even know they used for Zelle.
Glad I got to open a potential financial crime investigation before they checked their other account.

JFC.

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u/Chance-Work4911 13h ago

Each of you keep your individual accounts, but get one joint between you. Makes things easier for sharing, plus it gives the added security of having a "backup" card/account when travelling in case something happens to one of them.

Also - what if Zelle was down today? Stop waiting until the last minute and then be ShOcKeD when some minor hiccup throws you into a tailspin.

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u/EmuRemarkable1099 13h ago

This is what me and my husband did. We both have individual accounts at the same bank and we opened a joint at the same bank. So internal transfers are instant

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u/Chance-Work4911 13h ago

Plus now there's a place to deposit anything that is payable to you both - like tax refund checks, insurance checks, etc.

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u/ncshawng 12h ago

The only problem with this involves bank investigations.

Get your joint account at a different bank.

If either of you are ever investigated by your bank's fraud department, they will freeze all accounts with your name on it.

This means that if your wife has her account frozen, the joint account will also be frozen because her name is on it.

It happened to me, and we lost access to our joint account with $40K in it until the investigation was completed.

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u/SuccessPositive191 8h ago

The joint account at a different bank eliminates the benefit of instant transfer. It is best to use several different financial institutions, each with both types of accounts. There’s not much benefit to keeping all your funds in one bank.

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u/UnavoidablyHuman 8h ago

Simple fix: move to a first world country where bank transfers are instant

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u/SuccessPositive191 6h ago

Where would that be?

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u/R520 PURPLE 6h ago

The UK for one. It's called Faster Payments. Anything up to £50,000 £1million is instant and free. Anything more and you have to use a system that I believe is similar the the US's ACH system, for a small fee

Edit: the £50k limit is imposed by my bank, according to Wikipedia the limit is £1million

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u/jennapearl8 5h ago

Instant in Canada with interac e-transfer

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u/LongmontVSEverybody 4h ago

I had my account (as did my son) at the same bank as my ex-husband...when he did something (don't even remember what...maybe quit paying a credit card debt?) They froze not only his account but also mine and my son's and took all of our money (about $700 from me...$200 from my son) and never saw that money again...fun times. Luckily I had a primary account at a different bank and I insisted we open a joint account at yet another bank to split kid expenses because I never wanted to have a primary account at any bank where he had an account.

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u/Western-Corner-431 2h ago

Never open a joint account with anyone

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u/ShadowCVL 13h ago

Yep 100% and my spouse has survivorship on my personal account to help with probate if something happens.

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u/SmileParticular9396 13h ago

Yep this is the way! Makes it very easy and fast

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u/ND8D 13h ago

My wife and I do this as well, makes it very easy

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u/No-Sherbert-6853 4h ago

Does your country not have instant payments between all banks, like here in Australia? It’s called PayID here. Phone number, email, or Australian Business Number can be used.

Instant.

New Zealand has the same.

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u/bagel_blight041 3h ago

That’s what Zelle is here

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u/No-Sherbert-6853 3h ago

No 3rd party involved in our transfers. Bank to bank from your bank’s app. You just register your choice of phone/email/abn and away you go. Changing banks? Remove PayID from old bank to new bank in seconds.

Took a while to implement because banks couldn’t believe they had to offer something completely for free. There was a prior iteration before PayID that was far more strict, and took 24 hours to verify the receivers details on the first transfer to them.

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u/PaperIndependent5466 7h ago

I'm showing my other half this. I keep saying we need a joint account for house related things. He doesn't think it's important.

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u/jrossetti 6h ago

Unless the account is free you're just paying for slightly more convenience. Zelle works fine.

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u/clpatterson 5h ago

As a guy: Every guy I know that wants separate accounts from his wife is hiding what he’s earning.

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u/touxcet15 12h ago

The joint account makes sense, though the timing seems like the bigger problem than Zelle here.

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u/Virtual_Bar7818 13h ago

I don’t use Zelle often. Zelle can go down?

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u/Chance-Work4911 13h ago

It can, and it has. Usually not for long, but if you're trying to do a thing right before it's due - are you willing to risk it?

It's like when a school assignment is due before midnight and you have people complaining that they were trying to submit at 11:52 PM and getting an error. Sure you were still submitting before the deadline but did you allow ANY wiggle room to ensure you could get it done? nope

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u/alphamammoth101 12h ago

They they had 8 minutes. - college student who has a horrible procrastination problem.

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u/jrossetti 6h ago

This assumes that the people are waiting until the last possible minute where any type of delay would actually f*** them over versus planning appropriately and sending it a week or so ahead of time.

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u/Hecter94 12h ago

Everything online can, and will, go down at some point.

Google has gone down; Facebook has gone down; Microsoft has gone down; major banks have had outages; nothing is too big to fail.

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u/Whole_Day9866 8h ago

Any software can go down

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u/TheVojta 11h ago

wtf kind of question is that? Do you think Zelle is somehow immune to damaged equipment and admin mistakes?

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u/SuccessPositive191 8h ago

Yes, any financial system can go down. That’s why it’s best to use several different financial institutions instead of keeping all your money in one place.

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u/1N2345SIX 1h ago

I also think that if OP would’ve sent that to a stranger they would have no recourse to get the money back through Zelle either. Police report or not. It’s just risky.

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u/ithinarine 2h ago

My girlfriend and I are moving in together next month and that's our exact plan. There wasn't even a second thought about it.

She sends me money? I send her money? No, we get a joint account and both deposit into it.

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u/clarkcox3 13h ago

Even if you want to keep separate bank accounts, why not have a joint account for things like mortgages? The idea of using Zelle for this makes me nervous.

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u/mrzurkonandfriends 10h ago

Seems like it would be easier to just have a shared account for bills in addition to your checking accounts.

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u/Owtplayed 11h ago

I feel like you kind of overreacted to the situation. Granted, it’s typically better to be safe than sorry. But you should have waited for a bit before opening a potential fraud case.

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u/bagel_blight041 11h ago

Was an hour after I sent it that they still “didn’t have it”.

Given that Zelle is instant, yes I did panic.

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u/vwisp 10h ago

Ive had it takes an hour to come through before

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u/ShawsyRPh 9h ago

Especially for large sums

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u/jrossetti 6h ago

I was doing 5 to 10k zelles to my wife and those were instant basically.

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u/americanalien_94 4h ago

How are you doing that?! Mine says that I have a limit, and I had to break my rent into two separate payments on different days

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u/bagel_blight041 3h ago

I can send up to 15k I believe. I think it’s bank/account type that determines that.

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u/TheDocktorIsIn 10h ago

I work at a bank and you're the type of customer I don't like lol

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u/Whole_Day9866 13h ago

Why are you zelling your spouse money for mortgage. I feel like there's better systems to have for this.

Also, this sounds like you want to complain about your spouse. Its not a big deal move on.

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u/Potential_Lab_6655 10h ago

Spouses keeping their financials 100% separate is so weird to me. I get not sharing EVERYTHING I guess. But having to Zelle your spouse for mortgage or rent is so odd. It’s not “your half” of the mortgage. It’s your guys’s mortgage

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u/Mr_Mojo_Risin_83 10h ago

Yeah , this is weird. We just dump all our money into one account. Honestly, I don’t even know how much is in there, she looks after that.

When my uncle died, my aunt had no idea where they were financially. She didn’t know if they owned or were renting the house they lived in. So weird.

… like, I guess I don’t know how much we have saved, but I could look it up if I was concerned.

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u/Breyber12 2h ago

Joint accounts are by far the easiest way

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u/VoidingSounds 6h ago

Yeah, that’s weird. My wife and I have individual accounts and joint ones for shared expenses like car payments.

Using Zelle to manually move the money sounds like asking for trouble, I would absolutely have the mortgage come out of a joint account that gets direct deposits or scheduled ACH transfers (and has 1 month+ in reserve)

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u/mromutt 2h ago

Yeah I thought that was just normal now, you keep your personal accounts and then open a shared savings account for paying out joint assets (house, cars, bills whatever).

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u/Need4Speeeeeed 3h ago

We're each professionals who make good money. So long as the bills are paid and retirement is funded, I don't need to know what she spent on clothing, and she doesn't need to know what I spent on speakers.

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u/bikejackass 8h ago

Some of us are married to a spouse who doesn’t understand basic math, or are happy to spend all the money available in the account on their horse because it’s our money…..

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u/Breyber12 2h ago

See I would refrain from marrying someone with habits like that. Need to be able to trust my spouse

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u/Gamblors_Neon_Claw 9h ago

Some of us are financially traumatized from a previous relationship and insist on separate bank accounts. I know logically that it doesn’t make sense, but for my sanity I will never share a bank account with anyone ever again. (My husband is wonderful and very responsible. He understands and loves my crazy ass regardless.)

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u/TransportationDue856 4h ago

Same. It took more than a decade to repair my credit and become financially stable. I’m in a 7 1/2 year relationship, we aren’t married and do not plan to get married.
We split vacations, date night, concerts. It works for us.
I do not care to have any financial entanglements with anyone after what my ex did to me financially.

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u/pengnyas_1996 5h ago

Separate accounts aren't the weird part; not knowing which account got the mortgage money is.

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u/Certain_Mycologist26 2h ago

I think it’s great they do that because if they split up and sold the home then it’s usually split 50/50

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u/Lausee- 8h ago

Having joint everything is weird to me. I send my wife half of the mortgage each month as well. We each take care of certain living bills separately. She pays some and I pay some, phone, cable, internet ect, but mortgage is split.

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u/Webword987 10h ago

All their money is joint after marriage anyway. Good luck telling a judge or arbiter it’s your money because her names not on it.

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u/SpazSpazBoBaz 10h ago

Not all money is marital property. Things such as inheritance are not marital property UNLESS you deposit said money into a joint account.

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u/slinky999 9h ago

This is only true in a community properly state, of which there are only 9 in the US.

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u/Alternative-Aside-64 8h ago

Turns out not everybody in the world lives in the US, crazy I know

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u/bitNine 8h ago

My wife and I are 100% separate. We don’t have a single account together. I Zelle her my half of mortgage because she has Wells Fargo and that’s where our mortgage is. We’ve been together like 18 years. Her ex was a financial moron and cost her a lot in the divorce. I also like to spend my money how I want to spend my money. When I want to buy something expensive, I don’t ask permission. I just do it. Even if it’s a car.

But here’s the secret: we are both financially responsible, make about the same amount of money, and have perfect credit. We also split everything evenly. Even when her son lived with us we just split it all.

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u/ShowdownValue 8h ago

“I spend my money how I want, I buy cars without even telling my wife”

Yikes.

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u/jrossetti 6h ago

Are you seriously going to judge their family for a system that's been successful for them for 18 years? All because it's not something that you would do personally?

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u/Bluegi 7h ago

There is this thing called trust. There is a difference between not telling and hiding. If you trust each others ability to make decisions it works. I didn't consult my husband on the financials of my car. He helped me pick what kind, but I wasn't asking him for permission or anything.

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u/ShowdownValue 5h ago

I would never buy a car without discussing it with my wife. In fact I wouldn’t buy even a laptop without talking to her first. Has nothing to do with controlling or permission.

Family finances. It’s ours. Not mine and hers.

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u/Gold_Challenge6437 3h ago

I agree! Been married 30 years and my husband and I have always had a joint account and it's our money. We do discuss large purchases with each other first, but otherwise we are free to buy what we want.

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u/Bluegi 4h ago

I guess we talk enough about the big picture and are both pretty thrifty that individual purchases aren't that big of a deal since we are on the same page. I get it because in my dad's relationship one person is a spendthrift and makes decisions despite the conversations of the larger picture.

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u/mromutt 2h ago

Right? It has nothing to do with permission, its being on the same page and being aware of supposedly the most important person if your life, life. Its also not even telling or asking them that you are doing X, it just comes up in basic conversations like "I need a new laptop, I think I am going to be getting X". Its weird to me when people make it seem like you have to have a meeting instead of you are just talking haha.

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u/Pimply_Poo 10h ago

I think it depends on the spouses. No way in hell would my first husband have been responsible with the bank account. 

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u/aigildalyn 4h ago

My husband and i have separate accounts and we don’t have a joint account. We don’t have mortgage or rent because we paid cash for our 4 bedroom house here in New York City. I paid half in cash and he paid 1/4 in cash and the other 1/4 his uncle “lent” him the money. Most of the loan now has been forgiven. He had $130,000 more to pay his uncle and his uncle emailed him a happy birthday $100,000 is yours receipt so now he only owns $30,000. Anyway, we have our bills to pay like i pay water and electricity and he pretty much pays the rest. Tax and stuff we take turns paying. It works out for us and to me, spouses who don’t have separate accounts are so weird to me. So whatever works for the couple. Husband and i have been married for almost 10 years and never been an issue.

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u/Motor_Sentence1713 5h ago

and what do you think is the best way to divide rent payments between you and your spouse?

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u/SamuraiZucchini 2h ago

You divide nothing. There is no “my money” and “their money”. It doesn’t matter who makes more money or who works full time or who works part time or even if who works a traditional job and who stays at home. When you’re married it is our money. Our bills. Our responsibility. If you can’t trust each other fully with money and keep score then don’t get married because it’s going to cause issues.

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u/mjr96d 4h ago

Why even divide it is the point. Just have all income go to a joint account and pay the bills.

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u/blackcherrytomato 2h ago

Attribution rules. It can be a bit cleaner to not have it all joint paycheque. Our mortgage payment comes out of joint chequing though.

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u/MuchDevelopment7084 2h ago

A separate joint account for the big, shared bills. Keep your other money's individual.

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u/promethazinep 5h ago

Thats exactly how my wife and I do it. We have separate accounts. It works for both of us.

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u/ShowdownValue 8h ago

100% agreed. Such a strange thing to read

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u/dinodoodad 8h ago

It feels normal to me to have split finances, we are still individual people. We don't share a job, we don't share our clothes, etc. We still treat money as a shared resource (what's yours is mine and what's mine is yours) but we don't need to mix our money together just like we don't need to throw all our clothes in the same drawer, we can each have our own drawer 😆 We don't own any joint property though, maybe we would make a joint account if we did, to add money into instead of transferring back and forth, but we would still have our own accounts, not just one joint one.

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u/Pumbaasliferaft 10h ago

Yeah, it’s not unconditional love

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u/zorphiel 2h ago

Agreed. We've been married 15 years and only ever had a shared account. I don't understand "she takes pays this, I pay that". I don't know why a separate account is needed for that.

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u/Sad-Roll-Nat1-2024 13h ago

How about just getting a shared account?? No real reason to need multiple accounts. Yall are married, just have a shared bill account. Go in to your work website and dedicate however much is needed for bills and daily needs to the shared account.

This shouldn't even be an issue in 2026.

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u/darthnilus 12h ago

My wife and I have been together since we had nothing; so we have had joint accounts since forever. I have never really understood people who were like I pay for this my wife pays for that…. Seems like a lot of hassle.

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u/only_because_I_can 10h ago

Yeah, my husband and I had a joint checking account when we were still in high school and not yet married, which was almost 50 years ago. Both of us started working at age 15, so we always combined everything.

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u/cmakmilli 4h ago

You married folks are weird with money

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u/cobblernobbler 2h ago

Eh. Wife and I have been married for 10 years, still have separate bank accounts. We have our own set bills we have agreed to pay, and then have some that we just split down the middle and send each other money through Zelle.

We each know how much money we make, we ask each other for money if we need it, and so on.

It’s been working fine for many years so we just don’t bother with a joint account

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u/bagel_blight041 1h ago

Exactly. Someone who gets it!

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u/zorphiel 2h ago

Not all of us feel the need to have separate bank accounts.

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u/Forsaken-Carrot9038 2h ago

Yeah, as a married person, I can’t imagine not trusting my wife and our having to keep separate bank accounts.

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u/Suspicious_Long_2839 2h ago

It's not a lack of trust, it's just easier to communicate and align on how much money is going to different places. My wife and I have access to each other's accounts, but we both have X amount auto routed to an account for mortgage and bills, then at can do whatever we want with our money without any surprises or conversations. Been married 21 years, and we figured out that separating finances early saved a ton of miscommunication and fights.

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u/Starrion 2h ago

My wife and I have one joint account all our money goes into. We have one other account to maintain our HELOC.
We’ve never had a fight about money.

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u/mromutt 2h ago

I get keeping your old personal accounts that your pay goes in and what not, but its weird to me not to also open a joint account for this kind of thing. Your bank would be more than happy to setup a joint savings/bill paying account especially if your mortgage is with them and they would probably give you all the bonus stuff for free or at the very least waive any fees.

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u/bagel_blight041 1h ago

Has zero to do with trust.

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u/bagel_blight041 3h ago

Yeah. Marriage just makes things complicated.

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u/angcrad 10h ago

I'm so glad I live in a civilized country that doesn't have to rely on third party apps and services for money transfers because we have SPEI, which processes transactions in a couple of seconds max

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u/bagel_blight041 5h ago

Zelle is instant

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u/angcrad 5h ago

Does it charge a commission? Our system is completely free and compatible across all banks with presence in the country

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u/EmergingEmergence 4h ago

Zelle does not charge a commission. Pretty much every bank has access to zelle at this point.

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u/Tafsd 8h ago

Might want to discuss that other account you knee nothing about. Lol

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u/Intelligent-Exit724 5h ago

This happens to me. I think it has to do with whether the payer sets you up as a payee with your email or your phone.

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u/bagel_blight041 4h ago

Yeah, they don’t know how I got attached to that account but at least they got the money.

I have six checking accounts three savings and four business accounts, talk about confusion.

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u/BornTune3627 3h ago

Im seeing a pattern with the people with separate accounts and ones with joint accounts. I think the people with separate accounts make way more money then the people with joint accounts. Just my opinion from a few comments on here and from people I know and have talked to about stuff like this.

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u/graywh 2h ago

I currently make about 5x what my wife does. She's also not worked when the kids were young. We've had joint accounts only since day 1.

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u/bagel_blight041 3h ago

That’s exactly it. I make 5x more, when it comes to taxes with my multiple businesses it would be completely unfair to them to ever file together or comingle funds.

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u/rtkane GREEPLE 13h ago

Always odd to me when spouses have separate bank accounts like this.

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u/Ok_Spell_4165 13h ago

Makes sense for some.

My partner and I keep most of our finances separate. I pay most of our mutual bills and he pays me. It's just easier for us.

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u/rtkane GREEPLE 13h ago

And if that works, keep doing it!

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u/Lark_vi_Britannia 8h ago

It's odd to me that people have joint accounts.

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u/egnards 13h ago

Different situations work for different people and different relationships, and I think it is becoming more and more common, likely because it is becoming more and more common to live together before marriage.

My wife and I have separate bank accounts mostly because its a system that worked for us for multiple years before getting married, so the hassle of changing things over just didn't make sense - We still treat each other's money as "our" money. . It just works for us to not bother combining it, though we do have a joint savings account for emergency stuff.

We don't sweat small expenses and it doesn't matter who pulls out their card to pay for dinner, but it's very simply a system where I've figured out how much all of our "big" expenses are each month and she sends me her half of that amount at the end of each month [she has no interest in dealing with the finances of all the bills].

Again its not really a matter of "my money" or "her money." I don't think of it like that at all, neither of us just sees it as something worth changing.

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u/Unfair-Bass-9351 10h ago

Same for my wife and I. We have our own accounts and each have us have different bills set up on autopay, if it’s a bad month and we need help we’ll wire each other some money to cover one of them. We’ve said it’s partly laziness as to why we don’t have a shared account, but it’s also like if it’s working, why change it?

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u/Harrisbizzle 8h ago

Right?  What happens if one of them loses their job and can’t cover “their half” for a few months?  So weird. 

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u/dischdunk 6h ago

Just because you have separate accounts doesn't mean you view the finances as completely separate.

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u/eatingganesha 10h ago

well it’s odd to me that anyone would compromise their individual financial integrity with a joint account. Women get trapped in abusive relationships all the damned time because they’ve done that.

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u/Nanery662 10h ago

Your allowed to have a join account that no direct deposts go into?

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u/uhitsjules 8h ago

a joint account that you only put the amount of money to pay for joint expenses like bills into does not in any way compromise anything. you do realize you can have a joint account and also maintain your own individual account? also, we are talking about marriage, not just any relationship. there are ALREADY legal processes in place once you’re married that deal with finances if you divorce.

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u/ShowdownValue 8h ago

She should choose better men

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u/jrossetti 6h ago

Always victim blaming.

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u/ShowdownValue 5h ago

Choosing better men is bad advice?

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u/IrrelevantManatee 13h ago

Why ? It's pretty normal. I have my account. My husband has his account. We have a joint account with which we pay the bill. We never argue about money and spend our own money however we like. It's just logical.

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u/rtkane GREEPLE 13h ago

And if that works for you, great. Keep doing it. For my marriage, we don't have my money and her money. It all goes into one account. I don't really know many people who have separate accounts like that, so it's odd to me to hear people who do. Not saying it's wrong, just odd.

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u/George_Is_Upset 13h ago

For my husband and I it worked out this way because we moved in together before we were ever married. He owned a home and I moved in with him when my lease ended.

My husband has always paid the majority of the big bills because he makes 3-4x my salary. He pays the mortgage, cars, home/auto insurance, and any renovations he wants to do.

I pay groceries/takeout, household supplies, each of our personal toiletries, medical/dental/vision insurance, all streaming services, and now paying the furnishing of our nursery and all baby related costs.

Because we already had separate accounts and my husband has always made far more than I have, we never had a need to create joint accounts.

Of course this is largely because we don’t split a bill 50/50 and instead we each have a list of expenses we manage 100%.

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u/gingrbreadandrevenge 13h ago

It's actually fairly normal. My spouse and I have separate bank accounts, as well as a joint account that we use for bills/household.

We don't really look at our finances as « my money » versus « his money » and in my case, I also manage several family accounts, investments, trusts, and other assets that I'm responsible for keeping separate from our personal finances.

Having separate accounts doesn't necessarily mean a couple considers their money separate, it can simply be a matter of practicality.

Every couple has a system that works for them 🤷🏼‍♀️

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u/rtkane GREEPLE 13h ago

Yep. And I'm not saying to change what anyone does, just sharing my experience and what's normal for us.

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u/Sad-Roll-Nat1-2024 13h ago

Right. Agreed. It's not mine and hers. It's ours. For us. Our kids. Our bills. Anything over $50 we talk about and make sure we can afford to get it, or make sure no bills are due, etc.

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u/RaeaSunshine 12h ago

And that’s great, but for folks that have property and businesses that predate their relationship it isn’t that simple. No one should find either set up odd, they are both common approaches that differ based on circumstance.

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u/jrossetti 6h ago

It's weird how everyone who thinks folks should use a system that works for them is somehow downvoted.

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u/tic79 13h ago

I have separate accounts with my wife and most of the people I know have the same. For me it's odd the other way around 

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u/SkyYellow_SunBlue 12h ago

Not just odd but feels old-fashioned in a way. From the not too long ago times when women couldn’t have their own money.

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u/IndigoTJo 10h ago

Is interesting you say that, as the majority I have seen do this because the man makes more money. Bet they will be shocked in a divorce when the husband has been saving but the wife hasn't, and that money still needs to be split with the wife. He will complain and complain how she is stealing "his" money. Anything earned during the marriage is joint money anyway. Having things separated just doesn't make sense to me and I don't understand it.

My husband and I have joint finances. He earns significantly more than me. I handle all the finances.

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u/dischdunk 6h ago

The difference is it's a court splitting the assets in a divorce. When I left my spouse, they drained the joint account and left me with nothing long before we ever got to court. Sure, it may have been included in the final tally, but functionally at that moment, I had nothing. So now nobody has direct access to my money except me.

I hope you never learn the lesson the same way I did.

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u/FranksWateeBowl 11h ago

Many people do bro, many.

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u/neverquitereallysure 13h ago

not really. if i wanna buy something for a hobby that i have why would i use what’s also part of her money? she shouldn’t have to pay for something she’ll never use

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u/rtkane GREEPLE 13h ago

Our lives are merged, our money is merged. There's no my money or her money anymore. If she wants to buy something for her hobby, it comes out of the shared pool of money we have--I don't begrudge her or think she's taking stuff away from me. That's just weird to me, and I easily make 4x what she does. I can't imagine thinking, "Oh, man, why is she wasting my money on that?"

Different strokes for different folks. Just sharing my experience and how things work for us. I know they don't work that way for everyone.

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u/Barbarossa49 12h ago

My financial situation is exactly this. And it has worked perfectly for 40 years and counting. All the money in our accounts is our money, not mine or hers.

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u/neverquitereallysure 13h ago

def gonna have to agree to disagree! if it works for you then thats totally ok. i grew up in a single parent household so the idea of marriage being arbitrary is just kinda instilled into my head

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u/stickyplants 12h ago

I would imagine the issues often come from couples that don’t have much money. As in any time they buy anything, they have to worry if they have enough for bills without screwing each other over.

Joint account for all the joint bills can make sense to help with that. Assuming it’s managed in a way that they have enough going in every month to take care of essentials, and then see how much extra they each have.

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u/The_Squirrrell 6h ago

This is exactly it for my husband and I. We each keep the same dollar amount per paycheck in our individual accounts. The rest gets moved into shared accounts for bills and savings.

We both like having fun money in individual accounts. It makes it easier for me to budget fun purchases, as compared to if those were being paid from a shared account.

Now we're in a place where things aren't so stretched financially, but the system is still working and doesn't need to be messed with.

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u/igomhn3 13h ago

We do the same with milk. His, hers and shared. We never argue about our milk and use it however we like. It's just logical.

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u/IrrelevantManatee 13h ago

I really hope you see the difference between sharing money and sharing milk

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u/jrossetti 6h ago

No they thought they were clever that's why they posted it for all of us to read.

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u/nopulsehere 12h ago

When I met my girlfriend now wife, she had her debt and I had mine. When we got married we were already use to paying bills with separate accounts. 20+ years and it’s still that way. At this point it’s almost a little bit of security. If we had all of our money in one account? And it got hacked or something? The bank takes its time getting that money back to you.

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u/acnerd5 8h ago

Honestly I think it depends.

My husband and I TECHNICALLY have separate accounts, but I can pull money from his account at any time. I pull bill money or pay with his info, which is in my Google wallet, paypal, cashapp, etc - so I can do anything instantly. I do have a few small things I do still for a few bucks, but it's not enough to justify adding me to his account. His is bill money, I pay for fun and kids - and thats easier to do when the accounts are separate. I also separate my money in accounts - I have a savings account for "us" in my name, and a savings account for just me in my name, and one account for personal spend and another for joint spending with bills. Personal is also where kids get small surprises from me, his account is where they get surprises from him.

I previously ran a business and I found it easiest to have my own account plus the business account, and I was able to deposit any payments to an account that was clearly just mine, showing I was the sole person in the relationship involved in the business.

I know this isn't all situations, but sometimes separation makes it easier for people to manage and not overspend. For the short time frame we had a joint account, I found out my husband had no clue on bank account functions. He still struggles but that's ok, I am good with numbers so he can just tell me what he has and I manage the rest, leaving him to spend money not allocated for bills, which means if anything gets messed up it's not our payments. (Which also happened a few times before we started separate accounts, and was why we discussed a new plan. He liked how I had more than one account and we chatted about separating money sources with the understanding that it's still "ours" and how to not slow down access. Modern technology helps access stay quick between accounts

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u/DirtyDan516 13h ago edited 12h ago

Me and my spouse have one main account for most things, the we each get some discretion money each month that goes into personal accounts.

When I talk to my buddies who have separate accounts, it usually comes down to an earning discrepancy. They all earn around 6 figures while significant others are lower earners.

Normally I thought with kids that would end that but from what I’ve seen it really hasn’t changed it.

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u/rtkane GREEPLE 13h ago

Discrepancy causing them to not want to share their 6 figure income with their spouse? Or am I reading that wrong?

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u/DirtyDan516 13h ago edited 12h ago

Generally the discrepancy being, more so being say over what the money is used for if that makes sense. Like if they want to buy a pickle ball paddle or something stupid like that, they feel as they deserve more say in that area. Still pay more towards bill and utilities across the board.

I do have one that recently joined after being separate for a while. Only reason they did however was more so out of not wanting to do finances in general.

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u/thewinehouse 12h ago

  When I talk to my buddies who have separate accounts, it usually comes down to an earning discrepancy

Y I K E S

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u/lmNotaWitchImUrWife 6h ago

My husband and I keep everything separate. We started out with wildly different incomes (I made more, he made less because he was in school), then spent 7 years close to parity, then he made significantly more for a few years, and now he's on sabbatical for another few years and I'm the sole earner.

We've always kept separate accounts simply because I like having my own account and he likes having his. All the money is "ours" and we have each other's passwords, but there's just no reason that we can see why we should create another third joint account when maintaining the system we've always had works for us.

He pays the mortgage, and I just have an automatic transfer to his account for it each month. We use a credit card for other bills and then just each pay a portion of it from our accounts. It's so simple and not a big deal.

I guess when it comes down to it I trust him enough to not need to micromanage "his" money and vice versa, and fewer accounts is simpler for us. If we were ever to divorce it would all get split regardless, so it's not about control. It's just what works.

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u/RaeaSunshine 12h ago edited 10h ago

It’s very common in my area because people settle down later. When both people entering into a relationship are already well established, with individually owned assets and businesses, it really does make the most sense a lot of the times.

The difference is that everyone I know, myself included, also has a joint account which shared expenses pull from to avoid this issue.

Honestly I only know a few folks my age that DONT have separate finances, and they all got married earlier on in life before these types of factors came into play.

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u/bagel_blight041 13h ago

I have multiple businesses just easier to keep things separate.

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u/MrBalll 13h ago

Why are you paying your personal mortgage out of a business account?

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u/bagel_blight041 13h ago

I’m not. But I’m sending money from my personal account to their personal account. We don’t share any accounts.

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u/MrBalll 13h ago

I can understand a separate fun money account, but no joint bills account?

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u/Sad-Roll-Nat1-2024 13h ago

Same man, same. Wife and I have shared everything. Just easier.

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u/PaintedMountains 12h ago

It always baffles me too. Our finances got so much easier once we got married and started the joint accounts.

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u/RejectZero 11h ago

My spouse and I have separate accounts and just split the shared bills proportionately to our income. It works great. We don't have kids though. I feel like kids would add a lot more joint expenses and make separate accounts harder.

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u/BigJim_TheTwins 13h ago

That goes beyond mildly infuriating, simultaneously panicked and pissed is a different catergory

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u/mathewwalker714 8h ago

Had the exact thing happen to me, it got sent to a different bank that i never used for zelle.

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u/big-booty-heaux 8h ago

Why are you doing things like this through payment apps instead of having a joint bank account?? You are BEGGING for money to be lost.

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u/Exhausted-CNA 12h ago

Thankfully your wife got the money. Me and my husband also have sep accounts. I pay the rent, he pays utilities and we each pitch in for groceries, etc. I've had a joint account in the past and got burned by my ex w it, so I refuse to do any joint bank accounts and he's fine w that. What works, works.

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u/Hayfee_girl94 12h ago

So a hidden bank account?

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u/Duke_Newcombe 11h ago

And now you have another issue--you've found his second account that he spends out of for his side piece...

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u/joecag 9h ago

Lots of second marriages have separate accounts, hmmm, wonder why? lol, it's love until it isn't,

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u/Valuable-Effect3362 13h ago

Maybe rant to your partner about this?

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u/Carlosthefrog 1h ago

How are you married and not having a joint account lmao ?

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u/bagel_blight041 1h ago

Because it’s not 1950 anymore

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u/Carlosthefrog 1h ago

why get married if you trust them so little, crazy work

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u/bagel_blight041 1h ago

Has zero to do with trust.

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u/Carlosthefrog 1h ago

hence you not wanting a joint account that literally just provides benefits ...

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u/ArmedClaymore 43m ago

This is so true. I didn't want to have separate finances for years, because money was "tight." Now that we've distaste our acorns accounts, we have more conto of our spending and saving. As it turns out, one or both of us was were not being responsible spenders. Now I got a couple thousand saved and it's only been less than a year. Sometimes out ain't about trust, it's about accountability.

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u/Sudden_Ad_9255 4h ago

Zelle is reportedly down for maintenance currently, according to Navy Federal.

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u/Safe_Control_9572 1h ago

My Mom and Dad both advised me as a teenager to have a shared account and to have my own bank account and credit card. My husband and I lived together for 17 years before we married and we have always had a shared and private account. I think it’s healthy and safe to do that.

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u/Geronimo732 13h ago

I just have to say that I think it’s weird to have separate accounts when you are married. Also, I think it’s weird when spouses basically live separate lives and never spend time together (Im not implying this is happening, just adding some more opinions of mine.)

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u/1000thusername 13h ago

And basically invoice one another like it’s the doctors office co-pay or something

“Here’s my half of the baby formula and diaper bill, sweetheart”

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u/rtkane GREEPLE 13h ago

Yeah, it's very strange. My daughter has a friend whose husband tracks stuff down to the penny. Literally, they'll go out to eat, and he'll tell his wife how much she owes from the meal and have her Venmo him there and then.

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u/colamonkey356 13h ago

Dear God! Why even get married if you’re going to be like that 😭

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u/clarkcox3 13h ago

That feels so weird and controlling to me.

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u/rtkane GREEPLE 13h ago

It is very weird. But he makes sure to send his portion of the bill to her when she pays, so it's at least not one-sided. My daughter and her husband went on a trip with them once and my daughter picked up the bill for some coffees or something for everyone. Later in the day, he bought something else for everyone and immediately asked my daughter to Venmo him her share. She was like, "What? I paid for your coffee earlier, I'm not paying for this." She said you could tell he was trying to do some mental math to make sure he wasn't overpaying.

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u/ShowdownValue 8h ago

Are you guys married or roommates?

Your half of the mortgage? wtf?

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u/jrossetti 6h ago

Who are we to judge someone's system if it works for their family?

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u/ShowdownValue 3h ago

Redditors

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u/LadyRedofShire 11h ago

"your half?" So not your spouse, your roommate.

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u/Kickedhard 11h ago

I have done this for nearly 28 years. It has worked for us splendidly.

We have a joint account for bills/costs and seperate accounts for fun/hobbies.

I tend to go out with friends and travel alot. She tends to prefer a quiet night with tea and a book.

So our costs are greatly different. I wouldnt even consider having her money go towards my misadventures.

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u/LadyRedofShire 10h ago

Room mates. There is no "mine and hers" when you're married. Unless you're doing it wrong. Congrats on being happy about doing wrong for 28 years. :) gold star.

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u/jrossetti 6h ago

Why is anyone who doesn't live like you think they should wrong? You seem to have some strange beliefs.

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u/caryn1477 10h ago

Ridiculous, a lot couples do this. It's called contributing to expenses and it's totally normal.

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u/bagel_blight041 11h ago

Wrong. We split the mortgage, I pay the rest. End of story.

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u/LadyRedofShire 10h ago edited 10h ago

Room mates. Also your post wouldn't need to be made if you had a joint account.

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u/ithinarine 2h ago

"Mortgage comes out today." So you send your money today?

This is idiotic.

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u/aiprompt 1h ago

My wife and I have been together since high school, and we're both now in our mid 40s. We've had a joint bank accounts since we were both 20. We've both bad periods of unemployment, and we've both always made different levels of incomes. It's ALWAYS been OUR money. We have different accounts for different purposes, but they are all OUR accounts.

Personally I think that says a lot about trust since money is a major sore point for many marriages. If you can't trust your spouse enough to have a joint bank account, why are you even married?