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u/Signal_Hat2119 14h ago
evil vs evil
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u/Numerous_Fudge_9537 LoL will reach 200 champs by 2050 14h ago
the cloth armor value in this fight was insane lol
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u/qonoxzzr Chovy <3 14h ago
And also the boots value. Which is why I hate people advising players to not buy boots early as laner.
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u/Metalbound 13h ago edited 8h ago
I think the advice is not to buy t2 boots early as the upgrade isn't as worth it after the nerfs.
For top lane specifically though, it's meta to rush plated steelcaps and whomever finishes them first basically wins lane.
Edit: Also for midlaners obviously due to quest.
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u/qonoxzzr Chovy <3 13h ago
I think the advice is not to buy t2 boots early as the upgrade isn't as worth it after the nerfs.
For mid it is also fine as T3 boots are also strong, especially Ionians.
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u/Qubert64 12h ago
A lot of midlaners also get nuts value out of t2 boots. Yas/yone with berserkers is one of their more valuable buys in general, though most other boots end up better if they can wait. Most mages and ap assassins have a major spike at sorcs. Most midlaners in general also like the movement speed more than top/adc because they're such a roam heavy role. It's probably why riot even decided mid gets t3 boots quest- because it is just so valuable on all mid champs specifically.
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u/G0_0NIE 12h ago
That's more contextual though
Sometimes you want to reach your spike asap and a -300 penalty is not ideal
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u/qonoxzzr Chovy <3 11h ago
For sure, there are always nuances to it as it is champ, game and matchup dependent.
That's why I dislike people saying you should never buy boots early.
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u/Frodolas 4h ago
Not really. You have to be good enough to understand the context. If you're not, a good default is to never buy boots early. And if you're good enough to know the exceptions, then you know you're good enough.
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u/AB4ND0N_H0PE it's quiet... too quiet 14h ago
So many underestimate early cloth armor, especially on squishy champs.
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u/PervertTentacle 7h ago
Armor in general. Lucian only went in because Jayce pressed R for no apparent reason(one would be E+Q to harras/last hit, instead he just stands there awkwardly) and went out of hammer form so he loses his tanky melee stats.
Combine that with cloth armor and you see why it wasn't close
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u/sorendiz ..BUT THE FAITH REMAINS 12h ago
zeka played it pretty much perfectly on his part but jayce definitely flubbed it
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u/DragonHollowFire EzrealMain 10h ago
If the jayce did just 1 less mistake its a free win for the lee/jayce
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u/sorendiz ..BUT THE FAITH REMAINS 8h ago
all he had to do was hit instead of trying to position for an E knockback toward lee
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u/LeagueofLagginz 8h ago
All he had to do was walk toward Lee the moment Lee started to gank and he would've lived and killed Zeka lol.
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u/TupacYupanqi 14h ago
How the f did he won against a Jayce with a boot and bow
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u/Lazywhale97 HLE 14h ago
Lucian just does a lot of dmg early game in general due to his passive.
Add on Exhaust to essentially make sure Jayce can't do more dmg and then add on cloth as well to further mitigate return dmg.
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u/PervertTentacle 7h ago
Exhaust, plus he took a really good timing to go in when Jayce pressed R and lost his tank stats
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u/comfortreacher 14h ago
After rewatching this clip 3 times, i think what i like most is his positioning initially to not let jayce E him into lee. gives him time to get jayce into lethal. timing the auto on the expiring shield and then kiting with W movement spd was also chef's kiss
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u/haven4ever Small in Size, Huge in Evil 6h ago
Game 5 Worlds Finals Zeka laneswap on Lucian mid killing Doran Jayce and Oner Lee Sin colourised AWARE
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u/Accomplished_Rush749 12h ago
The difference in e dash length every time he dashes; when he first fights jayce he uses the shortest dash possible to trigger the passive and then later through the fight as he keeps trying to keep as much distance from both opps he uses longest dash
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u/Thegenuinebuzz 14h ago
Honestly, the most impressive part was the patience on his last Q. By not Q'ing he knew :
That his Q wouldn't kill before a lee auto attack.
That Lee still didn't have E up
That his (Lucian's) E will be up before Lee's / His jungler will be able to do something before Lee's skills come up.