r/kratom • • 11h ago

Never feel anything

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I have given kratom multiple chances ranging from dosages of 3 g to upwards of 40 g. I give it months before I ever try it again so I don't have any tolerance ever. I have never felt anything I even take it on an empty stomach. I have tried 7oh back in the day and still don't even feel that I've done a hundred milligrams of that and I don't feel it at all. I don't use any painkillers or pills I don't even smoke weed so why is this okay


r/kratom • • 1h ago

WAR ON KRATOM: THE TRUTH

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This ridiculous war on Kratom has been on my mind everyday. I haven't seen so much deliberate misinformation since WMDs in Iraq. I am working on a flyer, that will also be an image file for people to post and share. To post in comments sections and respond with facts in one shot. Here is the draft so far, sorry that it gets into the weeds of personal feelings and on the offense but I've had enough. It's time to get the off our heels and start pushing back! Please feel free to challenge anything I am saying here or anything I should add before I finalize this:

Kratom alone has never killed anyone. [1]
Kratom is mildly addictive. [2]
Kratom is healthy in moderate doses. [3]
Kratom is a natural pain killer and anti-depressant. [4, 5]
Kratom is not a powerful narcotic or an opioid. [6]
Kratom does not impair driving. [7]
Kratom helps millions of people everyday with chronic pain and other ailments. [5, 8]
Kratom has helped millions of drug addicts quit hard and dangerous drugs for good. [9, 10]
Many quit Kratom as well with no issues. [2]
24 US states protect Kratom and it’s users with various common sense regulations. (KCPA) [11]
5+ Million people have used Kratom responsibly in the US for over 20 years. [12, 13]

Because Kratom is a natural plant, it cannot be owned by a pharma company.
Their synthetic Frankenstein drugs are trademarked and protected for profit.

Pushing for a Kratom ban is irresponsible & dangerous!
My entire generation was erased by real drugs. Don’t talk to me about dangers. THE DAMAGE IS DONE. Since Kratom became more available, opioid overdose deaths have finally begun to come down. [14] Banning Kratom will result in an immediate public health crisis as millions lose access to a safe and reliable plant (usually with no plan or support in place). [15] Anytime a state bans Kratom, overdose deaths skyrocket [16]

Alcohol is sold in gas stations and kills 200k Americans every year. [17]
Tobacco: 500,000k /year. [18]
Raw Kratom Leaf: 0 (ever). [1]

A war on Kratom is a war on laborers, poor, & working class people. Blue collar, white collar, Red state or blue state. Thousands of normal hardworking Americans have been snatched up by states that have Kratom bans. Some have been killed in prison or sentenced to 30+ years for possessing a bottle purchased a few miles away in a legal state. Personal use amounts have been compared to hard drug powder and severe “trafficking” charges have destroyed lives and families. [19, 20] Your reckless war on Kratom wreaks absolute havoc on your own country and your neighbors while you sit back and push big pharma and prison industrial agendas to make yourself feel better. You should be ashamed and embarrassed for being so uninformed and so irresponsible.

Sorry that you don’t feel safe with a plant being sold in a gas station. Maybe it’s time to grow up and get over yourself and your posturing. Trying to make the world how you want... you are the danger, and you are going to get people k**led is what you never understood. People should be allowed to make responsible decisions about their own health without going through the for profit medical system. We don't need FDA or doctor approval to know Kratom is safe and healthy.

I believe in this plant so much, that every adult should try a small dose of Kratom at least once to fully understand it’s benefits. Especially people who want to ban it. You will find the thing you feared so much was nothing but an invention in your mind. Kratom is the cure for many things, and has the potential to change the world by liberating people from these corrupt and captured institutions.

SOURCES

[1] The acute adverse health effects of kratom: an evaluation of case reports https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12425911/
[2] Singh et al. “Kratom (Mitragyna speciosa) dependence, withdrawal symptoms and craving in regular users.” https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30614408/
[3] Heywood, Smallets & Paustenbach. “Beneficial and adverse health effects of kratom: A critical review.” Food and Chemical Toxicology, 2024. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39134135/ ; Prevete et al. Human mitragynine safety study. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12084173/
[4] Vicknasingam et al. “Kratom and Pain Tolerance: A Randomized, Placebo-Controlled Study.” https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7309661/
[5] “Kratom Use for Self-Management of Pain: Cross-Sectional and Ecological Momentary Assessment Data.” https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11781972/
[6] Obeng et al. “Investigation of the Adrenergic and Opioid Binding Affinities of Selected Kratom Alkaloids.” https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9130800/
[7] Zamarripa et al. “Effects of Kratom on Driving.” Traffic Injury Prevention, 2024. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11149710/
[8] Grundmann. “Patterns of Kratom Use and Health Impact in the United States.” https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28521200/
[9] “Kratom as a Substitute for Opioids: Results from an Online Survey.” https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31284119/
[10] “Kratom and Opioid Withdrawal: Preclinical Evidence.” https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9285932/
[11] Kratom Laws by State: https://restoration-recovery.com/resources/kratom-laws-by-state-2026.html
[12] CDC. National estimates of kratom use. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/75/wr/mm7511a1.htm
[13] Heywood et al. Traditional use and kratom research review. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39134135/
[14] CDC. “U.S. Overdose Deaths Declined in 2024.” https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/releases/20250514.html
[15] Kansans dealing with statewide Kratom ban https://www.ksnt.com/capitol-bureau/youre-not-alone-local-group-says-many-kansans-dealing-with-kratom-withdrawals-after-statewide-ban-takes-effect/
[16] Kratom bans directly increased opioid overdose mortality in five out of the six states analyzed https://ir.library.louisville.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=5152&context=etd
[17] CDC. Excessive alcohol use and deaths. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/73/wr/mm7308a1.htm
[18] CDC. Smoking and health. https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/about/
[19] NEA Report. Marshall Ray Price in-custody death and kratom-related sentence. https://neareport.com/2022/12/09/in-custody-death-of-greene-county-man-devastates-family/
[20] Tri-City Ledger. Shaina Megan Brown kratom trafficking case. https://www.tricityledger.com/story/2023/04/06/news/kratom-leads-to-trafficking-charge-in-ala/5807.html


r/kratom • • 5h ago

Morality Scaling prohibitionist non-profits

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I'm curious as to how others feel about this. I'm genuinely trying to understand the opposition perspective. How do these nonprofits start, what are their initial intentions, and how do their motivations and the overall morality of their actions change over time?

The more I see them put their face out in public, in the name of honoring their late adult children, the more it feels like this isn't about honoring their children at all. It seems to become more like they're using the death of their child as an excuse to get attention and go on an ego trip.

The notion that the world should stop because they suffered a loss is a fairly self-centered one. Their frustrated responses to the pushback from us sounds like virtue signaling, and frustration at lawmakers who don't do what they want sounds like entitlement.

I'm intentionally leaving out any potential alternative motives that are more conspiratorial in nature. I'm just looking at this from the perspective of the actions I see them taking publicly. Perhaps they started out with more legit intentions, then as the issue grew, became more political, gained outside influence, etc they lost sight of what they were doing it for?

Please avoid any attempt to frame people as good or evil. This is about understanding from my end.


r/kratom • • 7h ago

Why do you feel there is an agenda against Kratom?

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I'm gathering some more anecdotal evidence for videos I make fighting misinformation. If multiple answers are the same thats great because I'm trying to see how the community feels overall.

What are you seeing that makes you feel there's an agenda to get Kratom banned?

What is it about Kratom that makes you feel what's being said is untrue?

Or feel free to share any opinions on the matter.


r/kratom • • 10h ago

Michigan Advocacy Group

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Hey Michigan,

I’m Beth and I’ve been a natural Kratom consumer for 11 years.

I was just in Washington, D.C. and had the chance to join the American Kratom Association on Capitol Hill. Being there made one thing very clear: the groups pushing for bans and restrictions are organized and working hard. We need to match that energy here at home.
In Michigan right now we have a real fork in the road:
• House Bill 5537 already passed the House and would ban the production, sale, and distribution of kratom (including natural leaf). It’s sitting in the Senate.
• Senate Bill 1181 takes the opposite approach — sensible regulation with labeling, testing, age limits, and a ban on high-7-OH and synthetic products while protecting natural leaf.
At the same time, several local governments are already banning or restricting sales, and more are looking at it.
I’m starting a Michigan-focused advocacy group for people who want to protect access to natural leaf kratom under clear, responsible rules instead of a blanket ban. The goal is practical: coordinate outreach to legislators, show up when it matters, share accurate information, and make sure our side is actually heard.
If you’ve used natural leaf for pain, focus, or as a personal alternative that works for you — or if you just believe adults should have access under proper regulations — I’d like to connect. Even if you only have a little time, every person helps.
Drop a comment or send a DM if you’re interested in helping get this off the ground. Looking for people who want to stay focused, factual, and effective.
We saw what’s possible when people show up in D.C. Now it’s time to do the same work in Michigan.


r/kratom • • 10h ago

10.18.26 Recap With Mac Livestream

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r/kratom • • 12h ago

Traveling to Canada

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Anyone have any experience traveling to Canada with Kratom?