r/CompetitiveWoW • • 4d ago

Weekly Thread Weekly M+ Discussion

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Use this thread to discuss this week's affixes, routes, ideal comps, etc. You can find this week's affixes here.

Feel free to share MDT routes (using wago.io or https://keystone.guru/ ), VODs, etc.

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The other weekly threads are:

  • Weekly Raid Discussion - Sundays
  • Free Talk Friday - Fridays

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r/CompetitiveWoW • • 1d ago

Weekly Thread Free Talk Friday

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Use this thread to discuss any- and everything concerning WoW that doesn't seem to fit anywhere else.

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UI questions, opinions on hotfixes/future changes, lore, transmog, whatever you can come up with.

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The other weekly threads are:

  • Weekly Raid Discussion - Sundays
  • Weekly M+ Discussion - Tuesdays

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r/CompetitiveWoW • • 23h ago

Question Is Kith'ix's Legs proc bugged in M+?

33 Upvotes

Hey guys,
Has anyone noticed weird aggro issues with Kith’ix’s Legs proc?

Ever since I started wearing these pants, I feel like the proc randomly pulls mobs that aren’t even in combat during M+ runs -_- (wouldn’t be the first time…)

Just bricked a key because some trash mobs randomly jumped on me for no apparent reason, and then I realized I’ve been having these issues ever since I started wearing this thing.
Anyone else experiencing this?


r/CompetitiveWoW • • 22h ago

Question Targeting Kithik Vault?

3 Upvotes

I was wondering, does anyone know if we just kill the two single boss raids then the one raid slot should just be their gear right?

I don’t need anything from Venomous abyss, so while it would be less boxes, I’m considering just killing the two single boss raids for the 1 slot and hope for one of the new cantrip items.

And then just do the usual 3 m+ boxes, but not sure if they prevent “targeting” in this way.

But would hate to only have one shot if it still rolls from all raid bosses killed this season, if that makes sense?


r/CompetitiveWoW • • 2d ago

R2WF Kush has joined Liquid

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r/CompetitiveWoW • • 2d ago

Fabled Let Me Solo Him: Kindo'jan -some info from my experience

79 Upvotes

Just putting some info together about my experience grinding the new delve this week. Wowhead is catching up, but full clearing seems to be the way to go to be in the best position for the boss. I made sure to grab all the mislaid curisosities/treasures as well as the masks. I was quite powerful by the end of the run. It seems that if you check every room, you'll be guaranteed to get the three masks.

As you progress through renown, you scale a bit by unlocking more rooms with curiosities. Finding all the sturdy chests seems to be a super fast way to level renown. There is a photo of their locations on Wowhead.

I did a little research before the fight and found on the method guide that it says there is an intermission at 70%. This is NOT true. I think the intermission starts after 90 seconds, but the suggestion to hold burst for phase 2 is incorrect. I was able to one-phase the boss on a 322 assa rogue. I swapped onto the adds when they spawned, but honestly I probably should've ignored them and burned the boss. I used drums and a light's potential and just did my normal burst rotation. I also switched Valeera to DPS for the final fight. I had her as healer while clearing the 9 rooms, but you have an opportunity to swap her before the boss. There are no dispels that require a healer specialization, and I was not worried that I would die at any point. She is level 80 and did more DPS than I did. I went corrosive bilespear, soul-cracking dreamcatcher, and bursting toad toxin.

If you make it to phase two, during the Hazzali phase (cat), a few guides say to arbitrarily select which line to stand in, but as Bandevil on YouTube pointed out, you want to block the cat doing an animation (moving paw).

I did not do the cheese with the fire loa, but it may be worth looking into for others. It also seems that blizz is hotfixing most of the bugs present at launch. I had done two 7/9 runs that had bugged out previously, but completed them after the hotfixes last night.

Long-time reader, first-time poster on Reddit! Cheers and gl to all. Keep going, you got this! There's no time limit to clear the labs, so can always wait for cds. :)


r/CompetitiveWoW • • 1d ago

Question Question about Holy Paladin m+

19 Upvotes

At what key level do I need to start using Lightsmith instead of Herald for the damage increase? 19? 20?

I like how easy it feels to heal as Herald but everyone at the top goes Lightsmith so I guess I got to myself? Also is Lightsmith pug friendly? With Herald I can save a lot of mistakes I feel like


r/CompetitiveWoW • • 21h ago

Pulled raid progress for every US title-range char from Midnight S1. 13 out of 1153 had zero Mythic kills

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Got tired of the "mythic raiders get all the loot so pure M+ players can't get title" argument so I wrote a script and checked.

Grabbed every US character above the raider.io title cutoff for S1 (4210.6), which was 1175 chars. 22 were private so I skipped those. Then I checked how many mythic bosses each one killed in the S1 tier (VS/DR/MQD, 9 bosses).

Mythic kills Chars
0/9 13
1/9 51
2/9 77
3/9 100
4/9 101
5/9 110
6/9 105
7/9 91
8/9 83
9/9 422

So only 13 out of 1153 (about 1%) never killed a mythic boss. Around 79% killed 4+, and 9/9 M was the biggest group by a mile at 422 chars.

Basically there's no separate group of pure M+ players getting pushed out by raiders. The people getting title are the raiders. Which kind of makes sense, the people with the time and the group to push 4200 are usually the same people raiding mythic.

You can argue the mythic trinkets are too good in keys, fair enough, but that's a different argument from "raiders are taking title from M+ players" because they get 9/6M gear.

Couple of things: - US only, one season. Want to do EU and older seasons next - cutoff is raider.io's estimate, not blizzard's - only checked the title char itself, so if someone raided mythic on an alt they count as 0/9 here. Real number is probably even lower - these are characters not unique players


r/CompetitiveWoW • • 1d ago

Discussion Someone expert please help this poor soul to improve :(

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I've been playing as DH for months since the S1, but for the love of good I can't figure out how some people deal above 400K DPS in for example, +12 Ruby Life Pools, this was the best I could do.

I have Crit 25%(905), Haste 21% (946), Mastery 38%(1112)(with flask), Versatility 1.8% (101).

I've done so many sims, compared and contrasted my gears with plenty of logs, tested multiple different talents, they are mostly the same. I do my rotation like a machine, up to 5 Collapsing Stars pack to pack, Reap at 4, Eradicate at 10, soul immo outside meta etc. but nothing is enough…

I am so frustrated by this :(

I have even followed VooDooSaurus's tips for rotations months ago, But again can't break more than 350 even now which I am full gear.

Meanwhile, yesterday I played some dungeons with a Havoc guy, he just annihilated everything no matter what, his overall DPS was around 380~410, And most of the time I can't even do 350 :(

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/a:yVMhqzB3F2Qj6rRd?fight=last&type=summary&source=3

EDIT: Thanks for all your hearty feedback guys, I knew I was wrong about it but I was frustrated, maybe I just needed some motivation, right now I think I've built up quite a courage from you all to do some higher keys from now :)


r/CompetitiveWoW • • 2d ago

Mudder row barrel bug

49 Upvotes

Basically we were doing a key today and the line didnt locked on the barrel. We tested after and happened a couple times as well. Seems like rng if it will work or not
Clip: https://www.twitch.tv/yheratv/clip/PeacefulLuckyChimpanzeeOptimizePrime-NAGD3Yygsy-sSRnC


r/CompetitiveWoW • • 1d ago

Question I have a lot of argues about me playing arms that season

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Basically title.
This season i rolled into arms and I’m mostly playing with my tank buddy. Rn I’m 3.8smth io…
At first i do good logs in my timed keys on avarage 77.3avg perf log, also had a 100th log on 19th vale for some time.
So genuinely I’m not really struggling with rotation and my ilvl is ok(330).

And now to the point of the post: we are arguing that we’re not a rank-1 players and warr isn’t effective enough. Cuz as warr i’m by far least consistent in our keys he’d ever seen me. And this is ig 7th season we play in and out.
The reason while all the boss reflects, trash reflects, die by the swords to ignore some mech on top while doing rotation and aiming overpower lines made me inconsistent. I started to die in puddles one out of 4 keys, sometimes i rearrange my defs and dying cuz of not def stance in time. Sometimes i fuck up cc and not doing stuns i need to.
I DO KNOW HOW TO FIX THAT — and it’s by playing more, but i dont have much time and i do play only few keys a day. So he’s got frustrated by that. He did complete his 20th resi, but i still miss mine. Cuz yes. While a lot of keys we’re not able to time cuz pugs are not always good, we should play to our best abilities to time the keys. Be consistent enough. And while he’s consistent i’m still lacking it on my warr.
And the second complaint is that my overall doesn’t gonna carry us through if other dpses isn’t good enough. Cuz while I’m doing all the reflects like mr 2nd boss, last at bv, 1st at vsa, destroyers in rlp etc; i’m doing good logs. But even like that warr isn’t gonna top a meter. And if so that just means that u are either in phys comp with monk or ur dpses are bad.
And this is the complain. While all the previous seasons i was playing top-dps carry role as i capable of doing dam, this season i cant carry us this way on damage.
This is destroying me. I even did drop 1 talent from execute into more overpower damage on execute range.

Dear warrs and possibly some other masterminds out there: what should i do? Cuz I’m enjoying playing warr that season (1st time doing warr), but this kinda throws me away and pushes to play even less. :’(

Edit. Sorry If it looks like it was written in rush (it was), and sorry cuz English is my 2nd language.


r/CompetitiveWoW • • 2d ago

Question Solo Labyrinth Boss Defeated – No Achievement or Treasure (Bug)

17 Upvotes

Hello,

After nearly four hours of attempts, I finally managed to defeat Kindojan, the final boss of the Labyrinth, completely solo.

The game confirmed that I had won the encounter, and the boss died. However, immediately afterwards, the entire Delve appeared to bug out.

Despite successfully defeating the boss:

  • I received no achievement.
  • I cannot claim any treasure or rewards or enter treasure room.
  • I am now stuck inside the Delve, unable to progress.

I'm reluctant to leave the Labyrinth because I'm worried I'll lose both the achievement and the rewards after spending so much time completing it.

Has anyone experienced this bug before, or could someone from Blizzard please help? Is there any way to trigger the rewards without having to repeat the entire encounter again and again?

I would really appreciate some assistance.

Character: Skandaroar – Argent Dawn


r/CompetitiveWoW • • 3d ago

Question Murder Row Heartstop Poison?

22 Upvotes

Been tanking (Guardian) some MR 17s this morning and was surprised how much damage the Heartstop Poison is doing. Actually to a point where I need to change my pulls because I get absolutely demolished by them. Has anything changed with them? On 15-16s I could survive pulling everything from below the stairs and up to the two rooms. Obviously it's harder stepping up a key level, but still. Seems absolutely overkill now.


r/CompetitiveWoW • • 3d ago

LOS spot on King A'akui's Blood Drain has been silently hotfixed

73 Upvotes

Our team just bricked our fresh 21 to a silent hotfix.

https://imgur.com/a/UEspBNb

I have the perfect view of it taking out the paladin. No reason this couldn't have been in the notes. We probably would have been fine if we knew.


r/CompetitiveWoW • • 3d ago

The new healer weapon will basically pull the entire dungeon

148 Upvotes

You've been warned. It pulls indiscriminately from hilarious ranges.

Log: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/bR1F6h29Kwy8HJpm?fight=1&type=damage-done

If I had to guess, the true range was probably like over 100 yards. After the first boss in particular, things were pulling from extremely far


r/CompetitiveWoW • • 3d ago

Discussion Labyrinth delve bugs

26 Upvotes

The new labyrinth delve bugged out on me twice tonight.

First run I nearly made it to the end, had 3 doors left, and got the smuggler room. Clicked the bag, mobs spawned, killed them. Couldn't click the bag again. Killed everything in the room, bag was clickable again, but this time mobs from the bag took about 5 mins to spawn. Killed everything, bag was never clickable again, couldn't spawn boss. I went around the whole room and side rooms, couldn't find anything else to interact with. Run over.

Second run I made it 2 doors in and killed the wraith boss with the souls. Killed boss, all the rest of the adds and souls, didn't get credit for the kill. Run over.

This is insane because every run starts over from the very beginning. I just couldn't do it anymore tonight, sad I won't get solo boss achievement on day 1. 😑 Saw a bunch of posts on the wow forums about this shit being bugged to hell.


r/CompetitiveWoW • • 5d ago

Discussion Sense (RL of <Nurfed>) Opinion on what’s wrong with raiding in Retail WoW

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r/CompetitiveWoW • • 4d ago

Discussion Massive Mythic Coiled Altar Nerfs with Weekly Reset

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r/CompetitiveWoW • • 4d ago

Dungeon and Raid Tuning

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r/CompetitiveWoW • • 5d ago

Voidscar Arena - Watchful Harrower's Whirling Gust

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In the first 5 seconds of the key, I was one shot out of stealth. I had not pressed a single button yet as we were gathering the pull.

After the run, I check my death log. I was hit by Whirling Gust with 600k overkill. This is an ability used by the Watchful Harrower. This mob only exists upstairs.

Is this a bug? Is this a known bug? Is this intended? I am so confused. Anyone have any information on this.


r/CompetitiveWoW • • 4d ago

Is kith'ix repeatable?

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As the title says, is the new boss repeatable as rotmire was? So with 2 bonus rolls, can I kill it twice and use one of my rolls each time, to guarantee two items from the boss


r/CompetitiveWoW • • 5d ago

Northern Sky is done raiding

465 Upvotes

https://raider.io/guilds/eu/blackhand/Northern%20Sky

Northern Sky ist Geschichte. Nach unzählbaren Jahren, als eine der Ältesten deutschen Gilden, unzähligen Progress-Nächten und Momenten, die wir nie vergessen werde, geht ein Kapitel zu Ende. Danke an jeden Einzelnen, der Teil davon war.❤️

Northern Sky is history. After countless years as one of the oldest German guilds, endless progress nights and moments we will never forget, a chapter comes to an end. Thank you to everyone who was part of it. ❤️"

Huge loss to the raiding community...


r/CompetitiveWoW • • 5d ago

Question Where to look for pug friendly routes between threechest and keystone guru?

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Hi all, I’m a prot pala starting to push into a key range where I need to learn a lot more (18s). For routes, my main resource so far has been threechest.io, but I feel those routes are tailored to premade groups, while I mostly play PUGs or at most a duo premade. A player I ran with recently told me Keystone Guru has some good key routes. I had dismissed it because I assumed it only had beginner-level routes that wouldn’t hold up in higher keys, but after exploring it for a while I found some that look pug-friendly. Are they actually good? Has anyone used them successfully in 18s and up?


r/CompetitiveWoW • • 7d ago

Discussion All Melee Swings Cause "Phantom Damage" to Health Bars in Midnight

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r/CompetitiveWoW • • 6d ago

Weekly Thread Weekly Raid Discussion

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Use this thread to discuss any- and everything concerning the raids.

Post logs, discuss hotfixes, ask for help, etc.

The other weekly threads are:

  • Weekly M+ Discussion - Tuesdays
  • Free Talk Friday - Fridays

Have you checked out our Wiki?

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Specify if you are talking about a raid difficulty other than mythic!