r/codingbootcamps • • 2d ago

Was a Formation.dev Student Involved in the Codesmith Security Incident?

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Since my post in the other bootcamp sub on the connection between Formation and a Codesmith security incident got removed for unknown reasons, and then I got subsequently banned, I'm going to re-post it here.


This morning, I received an unsolicited message from a redditor in response to the latest Codesmith hysteria being drummed up by Michael Novati. Michael has been characterizing what was a rather routine compromise of a developer account with limited permissions as a DEFCON 1 security breach of Codesmith itself. Just look at his choice of language:

From just his language, you would think that one of Codesmith's "flagship" projects (which I had never heard of) was compromised. That is not true, and is a complete misrepresentation of what actually occurred.

Codesmith's Reactime project, which (I've learned) is a Chrome developer tool, was not compromised. No malicious code ever made it into the main branch; no malicious code was ever released or shipped to any consumer of this tool. If tomorrow we learned that, say, Firefox had been compromised, that would mean that a published version of Firefox had been released with malicious code in it. That isn't at all what happened here, yet Michael decided to characterize it that way to drum up fear and hysteria around something to do with Codesmith, a longtime target of his.

What actually happened, which was what I pointed out at the time, was that a developer account with limited access was compromised and pushed up malicious code to old, stale branches that don't publish anything, and which are unlikely to be pulled or used by anybody. Michael insinuated in response that I'm "not quite at the level to understand the consequences of this issue" and would be "humiliated and embarrassed down the road", and later said: "You have a skill issue. I hope you aren't an engineer."

He also called me a drug addict. (He has since deleted that comment.)

In spite of Michael's insults and histrionics, Codesmith has since confirmed that it was indeed just a developer compromise, that the developers had commit access but not to protected branches where released code lives, and that they have since tightened some github security controls and remediated the malicious code that had been pushed to old, stale branches in their repos. Yes, it's a real security incident, but it is not the type of security incident that Michael has characterized it as. All security events are not created equal.

Returning to the message I received, I wasn't sure what to do about it, in part because the person is anonymous to me and in part because I couldn't verify details of what was disclosed. However, part of what the redditor told me lined up with something that Michael himself had said, namely that he "discovered this because someone I know had a major compromise" due to this incident.

At the time, Michael was also characterizing this incident as affecting just the Reactime repo, and by one malicious actor, but in the message I received, I was told that two repos were affected, by two different compromised developer accounts. This was confirmed hours later in the email from Codesmith, where they wrote:

Verified malicious changes date back to June 1, 2026 for Reactime and August 2 for projectArtemis. ... Currently, we have restored all 24 affected branches to reviewed pre-incident commits and revoked the implicated accounts’ organization access.

As I said, I wasn't sure what to do about the message I received at first, but then those very specific details lined up hours later. So here is the relevant portion of the message that I received:

I’m a codesmith alum, someone in the slack looked into it, and there were actually two repos / two accounts affected. the other repo was affected before reactime, and the individual who was affected was a student at formation for like 3 years.

so pointing fingers here and acting all high and mighty sounds dumb when it was literally a long time formation student who got infected, had all her repos affected, and then another student

but yeah, the formation student telling him is prob how he found out

In light of Michael insisting that he is "completely transparent" and "I'm the only person openly promoting integrity (across all Reddit posts as anyone can see) in a swamp of disgusting gross manipulation", I would like to invite him to comment on these troubling matters.

Some questions that I think deserve some answers:

  • Is it true that one or more Formation students have been compromised?
  • If true, is it a current Formation student (or students)?
  • Was one or both of the compromised Codesmith dev accounts affiliated with Formation?
  • When did you learn about the compromise, and when did you learn that Codesmith was impacted?
  • Specifically when did you responsibly notify Codesmith directly that there was a security incident underway?
  • Has Formation conducted a thorough security audit to see if any other individuals or any systems of their own are also compromised?
  • Is it true that this student or students have been at Formation for a period of 3 years?
  • If this indeed came from a Formation affiliate, why did you not disclose that detail immediately, given your full throated claim to transparency and integrity?
  • Why did you characterize this incident as a major security breach of Codesmith itself and one of it's "flagship products", when you yourself knew all along that it was a matter of non-admin alumni developer accounts being compromised?

Thank you.

Update: Michael Novati has confirmed below that one of the compromised accounts was a Formation alumni, which was how he learned about it in the first place, and that he did NOT responsibly disclose the security incident to Codesmith as it was underway. He instead chose to make hay over it by publicly attacking Codesmith and mischaracterizing the nature of the incident as a "severe compromise" of Reactime, which was not true. What's more, he knew there was an issue three months prior, but chose not to inform them about it. He's refused to answer further clarificatory questions.

He is now throwing a tantrum, threatening legal action, and angrily declaring that I have "EVERYTHING to lose", calling me a Codesmith shill, and "If you want to play 4D chess DM me and we can go there, were talking Duck Hunk [sic] right now." [Update: Novati has since edited that from his comment. Sneaky. Good thing I took a screenshot. If the mods actually care, they should DM me for it.]

I will repeat what I said about this small man in his recent Codesmith thread:

Michael has been engaged in a years-long campaign against this particular company to influence people's perceptions of it, and you should take everything he says about it with a huge grain of salt.


r/codingbootcamps • • Sep 16 '26

Looking for other former BloomTech/Lambda School students who have dealt with the TRG, student loans, or similar problems.

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r/codingbootcamps • • Jul 14 '26

Even if coding becomes automated, CS Fundamentals will matter more than ever

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As an engineering manager, I think software engineering is going to become less about manually writing code and more about system design, architecture, DevOps, testing, AI integration, and understanding how everything works together..

Coding will be automated. But as software systems become more of a gray box using agentic engineering and engineers become disillusioned and leave the field or retire early, I think engineers with strong CS fundamentals will become extremely more valuable. I'm talking about OOP, data structures and algorithms, operating systems, databases from scratch, and even compiler theory. You may never build an operating system, database, or compiler from scratch at work, but understanding how they actually work helps you catch bad decisions, debug difficult problems, and design better systems.

It is kind of like math. Most people who studied math are not doing manual calculations all day, but understanding how math works is still extremely valuable. I think strong CS fundamentals will be one of the main things that separates mid-level engineers from top engineers.

Are other engineering leads or developers seeing something similar?


r/codingbootcamps • • May 16 '26

Clueless with coding

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r/codingbootcamps • • Mar 25 '26

Cancel your Chatgpt subscriptions and pick up a Claude subscription.

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r/codingbootcamps • • Feb 15 '26

The Story of Codesmith: How a Competitor Crippled a $23.5M Bootcamp By Becoming a Reddit Moderator

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r/codingbootcamps • • Jan 29 '26

Forbes: Best Online Software Engineering Bootcamps Of 2026

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r/codingbootcamps • • Jan 28 '26

Any good vibe coding bootcamps?

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r/codingbootcamps • • Jan 28 '26

what is the placement rate for coding bootcamps in 2025-2026? How many self taught guys have success now.

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r/codingbootcamps • • Mar 09 '25

Leetcoding DEAD? College grad GAMES his leetcode interviews, gets offers from Meta, Tiktok, Amazon

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r/codingbootcamps • • Jan 29 '25

NVIDIA's paid Advanced GenAI courses for FREE (limited period)

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r/codingbootcamps • • Oct 02 '24

I'm a Tech CEO at the Berlin Global Dialogue (w OpenAI, Emmanuel Macron) - Here's what you need to know about what's being said about AI/Tech behind closed doors - AMA

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r/codingbootcamps • • Sep 13 '24

WARNING Forbes Coding Bootcamps List: Blatant Fraud, Lies about bootcamps participating in CIRR (council of integrity in results reporting)

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LINK: https://www.forbes.com/advisor/education/bootcamps/best-coding-bootcamps/

Heads up, everyone. Forbes is at it again, cementing its reputation as one of the most unethical and fraudulent platforms out there, yet still managing to dominate Google search rankings. Their latest article shamelessly name-drops CIRR, the only credible, transparent body reporting student outcomes in the bootcamp industry.

Forbes list schools like "4Geeks Academy," "Coding Temple," "Nashville Software School," and "Design Lab UX" as participating in CIRR—despite none of these schools ever submitting data to them.

This isn’t just sloppy journalism; it’s outright exploitation. By leveraging CIRR’s reputation, they’re promoting bootcamps that have no accountability, misleading readers who trust Forbes to provide accurate information. Meanwhile, established CIRR participants like Codesmith, Turing, and Tech Elevator? Not even mentioned once.

Forbes and this journalist team: this is beyond irresponsible. It's dangerous to both students and defamatory to the nonprofit CIRR, which has worked for years to bring transparency to the bootcamp space.

Bootcamps are expensive, and publishing outright falsehoods without basic fact-checking is reckless at best, malicious at worst. Shame on Forbes for allowing such a blatant disregard for truth. And shame on the journalists who have no business shaping public trust when they can’t even bother to load CIRR's website and perform basic fact checking.


r/codingbootcamps • • Sep 11 '24

List of Notable Coding Bootcamp Shut Downs in 2023-2024? ** RIP **

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Kenzie Academy

Codeup

Launch Academy

Epicodus

Bloomtech (formerly lambda school)

Rithm School

Bloomtech is still running on paper I guess, but in function, I dont think they can accept any students right now. Am I missing any bootcamps? Anyone caught at the tail end of the shutdowns and what was your experience like?


r/codingbootcamps • • Sep 11 '24

From $5 Billion to $12 Million: The Coding Bootcamp That Bought Harvard's EdX Platform and Lost It All

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2U has long been the shadiest entity in the coding bootcamp space. They acquired Trilogy Education, a company notorious for buying the rights to prestigious university names like MIT and Columbia, and then using their logos to market subpar courses led by unqualified instructors. How that’s even legal is beyond me, but it looks like karma has finally caught up with them.

Key things:

  • Under their Chapter 11 Bankruptcy, 2U cuts their debt by half and gets a $110 million dollar injection (enough for 2 year runway)
  • The $800 million payment from 2U led to the creation of a non-profit called Axim Collaborative
  • Axim's PR is described as focusing on "overcoming persistent inequities in online learning, in part through exploring how to apply artificial intelligence to enable personalized learning..." *cringe*
  • Anyone currently in a 2U affiliated university bootcamp?

https://www.classcentral.com/report/2u-edx-bankruptcy/


r/codingbootcamps • • Oct 19 '21

Can I take a tax deduction for tuition paid for a Coding Bootcamp?

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Is the tuition for a coding bootcamp tax deductible like the tuition for a regular university? What about expenses for laptop, headset, webcam, etc?


r/codingbootcamps • • Aug 16 '21

Is there a list of bootcamp rankings?

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I would like to see a list of coding bootcamps that includes reviews of former students with career information (salary after bootcamp, salary before, etc.)

Most bootcamps I see online advertise graduate salaries at around $75K but have these clauses that say you don't have to pay until you get a job that pays 50K. 50K for a software engineer seems like a very low salary so I'm a little concerned.

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Is there such a list somewhere? or can someone here share their personal experience with a bootcamp they attended and how it affected their career?


r/codingbootcamps • • Jul 23 '21

Best boot camps in NJ?

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I’m tempted to sign up for the rutgers coding boot camp, since that’s where I got my bachelors in environmental science. I’m thinking it might look more consistent on my resume if I do that. However, I need a little more info on the program before signing up. Has anyone taken the boot camp that can tell me about your experience? If it’s not good, what other boot camps in nj are good?


r/codingbootcamps • • Jun 17 '21

Building Fathers Day Gifts - Using Vue Nuxt And Deploying to Netlify

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r/codingbootcamps • • Jun 13 '21

Self-Teaching vs. Coding Bootcamps

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Trying to get people's thoughts on the value of coding bootcamps. Are the job placement and career networking opportunities of a $15k coding bootcamp worth it in terms of finding a job. Or is it just as worthwhile to take some of the many cheap online course available and just network independently through LinkedIn and other platforms?


r/codingbootcamps • • Jun 10 '21

How To Become a Full Stack Developer

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r/codingbootcamps • • Jun 03 '21

How To Use Git With VSCode Quick And Easy Tutorial

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r/codingbootcamps • • May 29 '21

Is Coding Dojo Worth it?

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I'm thinking of joining Coding Dojo but I'm not sure if I should. It shows that average salary alumni makes $75000, but when I see some reviews, people said they aren't ready for a job even after they finished the program. Also how hard it is to get a job after graduating Coding Dojo? Trying to join somewhere that is beginner friendly since I'm married and can't spend more time to change my career.


r/codingbootcamps • • May 28 '21

Software Developer Resume That Helped Me To Get Junior Web Developer Position

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r/codingbootcamps • • May 27 '21

7 Types Of Software Testing And Why Do We Use Them

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