WoW Forever Patch Notes - 10/15/2026

[u/Weaslelord]

https://eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-15-october/631316/6

[u/Chadwiko]

My personal highlights;

• Restored level-up messages showing stat increases and talent points gained.
  
• “The Attack!” is no longer an escort quest and is now shareable, even while the event is active. Speak to Tyrion to begin the event if it is not active.
  
• Spells with different rankings now behaves as a single entry in the Cooldown Manager.

[u/Proxnite → u/Chadwiko]

"The Attack!” is no longer an escort quest and is now shareable, even while the event is active. Speak to Tyrion to begin the event if it is not active.

It took 20 years and 3 iterations of classic but we finally have the technology

[u/SleepyNoirQT → u/Proxnite]

Finally

[u/ShlungusGod69]

-Devouring Plague down to a 24-second cooldown
-Mind Blast and Mind Flay now grant your party 15% Spirit
-Vampiric Embrace cooldown back down to 30 seconds

BASED DEVS

[u/imthomasreadit → u/ShlungusGod69]

& VE can't be resisted, thank Thex.

[u/Nac_Lac → u/ShlungusGod69]

S Priests never escaping the title of "mana battery" now! But seriously, I love this change, definitely going to be looking for an S Priest to dps the groups I heal.

[u/Cidergregg → u/Nac_Lac]

Finally, I can once again be the energizer battery of my shadowy dreams.  Love having some actual utility.  I never wanted to relinquish that niche.

[u/Skiteley → u/ShlungusGod69]

Honestly impressed with these changes. I wonder if 15% spirit buff will be worth bring SP specifically for.

[u/SwarmOfRatz → u/ShlungusGod69]

Also mind flay does more damage the longer it channeled, so clipping it is no longer optimal

[u/jametze → u/ShlungusGod69]

New spirit talent too. Bless up

[u/WrongOpinionOnly → u/ShlungusGod69]

Priest eating good

[u/abort_retry_flail]

Did humans just get a flat, 2% crit chance regardless of weapon?!?

[u/LPQ_Master → u/abort_retry_flail]

Isnt 2% crit chance like WAY STRONGER than 2% crit dmg on dwarf? Give dwarfs the crit chance, they already underplayed.

[u/rince89 → u/LPQ_Master]

Humans were really struggling, they totally needed the buff

[u/Moogzie → u/LPQ_Master]

It's obscenely more powerful even before you include any additional synergy from crit (i.e Flurry)

Changes like this really don't fill me with confidence

It really feels to me that they have X Y or Z staff that are assigned a class/spec/race to deal with and balance, but they don't consider the big picture; as this change has obviously been made to alleviate the weapon restriction, but with zero consideration for relative power

[u/Ko_s_ → u/abort_retry_flail]

Huge for warlock dot crit

[u/Shrabster33 → u/Ko_s_]

And they nerfed the orcs shatter curse.

Looks like alliance warlock is back on the menu.

[u/Mother_Bid_4294 → u/Shrabster33]

The slaughtered lambs business is gonna be boomin

[u/dstred → u/abort_retry_flail]

Yep, I was like WTF
1% would be fine but fucking 2% flat crit…

[u/DanielTeague → u/dstred]

Humans clearly ate their Blackhand's Breadth with every meal as children.

[u/dm_me_pasta_pics → u/DanielTeague]

humans just went from being pvp trinket with legs to UBRS trinket with legs lol

[u/lookzlike → u/abort_retry_flail]

yea, while for other races its crit dmg increase😂

[u/Hreny2]

• Restored level-up messages showing stat increases and talent points gained.

lol, somebody is reading this sub

[u/door_of_doom → u/Hreny2]

They literally say all the time that they do

[u/scoyne15 → u/door_of_doom]

Hey Devs reading this, Hunter quivers need to be visible at all times. Most minorest of changes for big goodwill from players.

[u/Select-Landscape-476]

Wow, the priest changes to shadow and mage changes are nearly identical to the community feedback from Discord. Impressive.

[u/Xavion15 → u/Select-Landscape-476]

I see they don’t look at the Warlock discord

[u/Select-Landscape-476 → u/Xavion15]

What's the current issue with warlock out of curiosity? Is it reoccurring QOL issues with soul shards and such or inherent talent pathing or rotational issues?

[u/TheTeafiend → u/Select-Landscape-476]

Warlock is pretty chill, maybe could use some destro changes to enforce the shadowflame rotation, but we'll need endgame characters to evaluate that.

[u/themoosh → u/Select-Landscape-476]

You have two separate range talents for no reason, all because the devs literally forgot they had nerfed our fear range and now destroy can't bane/drain soul from 36 yds and affliction can't shadow bolt or shadow burn from 36

Plus affliction tree already had too many must have talents and now there's 2 more points needed for range.

Who thought this was a good change? And this is the only change we got.

Don't even get me started that a shadow bolt crits for less than a hunter's auto, even with bane and twinked gear ...

[u/Nood1e]

Troll

• Regeneration: Health regeneration bonuses increased to 20% (was 10%).

And now you can do even less about it.

[u/Pkock → u/Nood1e]

Whale warriors rise up, twice as fast

[u/Cha0xst0rm → u/Pkock]

Trolls gonna be out healing mobs at this point haha

[u/jestina123 → u/Nood1e]

Isn't troll regeneration a noob trap?

At level 60, a 20% health regen bonus translates to roughly 240 HP over an entire minute in combat. For perspective, a single tick of a Heavy Runecloth Bandage heals 250 HP in just one second, making the racial scale incredibly poorly for end-game content

I really want to run troll Warlock, but the numbers don't seem to add up.

[u/Garresh → u/jestina123]

I mean it's amazing for leveling or grinding. Not gonna prevent eating but even at 60 that can improve uptime depending on class.

[u/rcanhestro]

the biggest thing is the raid wide buffs.

leader of the pack, Battle Shouts, some totems are now raid wide.

Salvation is also no longer classified as a "blessing", which means one less paladin needed for blessings.

this is pretty great for overall raid composition, less people needed to provide buffs, which means 1/5 of your raid will no longer be shamans alone.

[u/Doogetma → u/rcanhestro]

Rogue stacking stocks rising

[u/KniisTwo → u/rcanhestro]

This kills the elemental and enh shamans who managed to sneak a raid spot due to a shortage of resto shamans.

[u/LoveConnection → u/rcanhestro]

Bad for cat druids if there is a bear tank tho

[u/rcanhestro → u/LoveConnection]

or bad for bear if you already have a cat.

considering that the default "main" raid is 20 people, if people bring a boomkin and feral it's 1/10 of spots for 1/9 of the classes, a decent balance overall.

[u/Mankriks_Mistress]

They just took some huge fucking swings with the racials, wow.

[u/Anthr30YearOldBoomer → u/Mankriks_Mistress]

2% crit chance vs. 2% crit damage.

Some shots in the fucking dark with a blindfold on maybe.

[u/HXamster → u/Anthr30YearOldBoomer]

They just carried over racials from retail, there was literally 0 brainpower involved

[u/SpecialSauce92 → u/Mankriks_Mistress]

3% haste on skyborn sounds crazy

[u/Kuldor → u/SpecialSauce92]

It's ass compared to 2% flat crit chance.

[u/Rawflsauce69 → u/Kuldor]

Yet it's still better than 1% haste like before lol. Better than nothing

[u/SirSaltie → u/Mankriks_Mistress]

Was literally anyone complaining about Tauren getting 1% hit chance? Why take this away? Such an unnecessary nerf.

[u/whoxcaresxixdont]

Pets now benefit from expertise? Is expertise in wow forever? Or what is that mean

[u/n_i_h → u/whoxcaresxixdont]

It is. It's just not called expertise in the game. It says reduced chance to be dodged or parried.

[u/HildartheDorf → u/whoxcaresxixdont]

It's written as "Reduces the chance for your attacks to be Dodged or Parried by x%" on items/talents, but yes it exists.

[u/maxlaav]

once again massive rogue changes lol

[u/thepolesreport → u/maxlaav]

Must be the same rogue dev as retail since they never get changes there either

[u/SniperOwO → u/thepolesreport]

Literally exactly what I said to my buddies when we read the patch notes, it's a running joke since I'm the only rogue player in the group that everyone gets overly hype when we get to the rogue section of any patch notes just for it to not exist or be literally nothing or a slight nerf

[u/Angry_Anal → u/SniperOwO]

Don't worry he's just in stealth. Once he decides to run his opener we'll be eating good... (Copium to the max btw)

[u/Lake_Placid2319 → u/maxlaav]

mages got a full rework and frost got buffed if that makes u feel better

[u/Klutzy_Ad8335 → u/Lake_Placid2319]

Icelance, the spell people were crying about, got a huge nerf

[u/jakob_x]

tauren losing 1% hit passive makes me sad

[u/KittyShoes17 → u/jakob_x]

This is such a huge nerf to Tauren. I'll play one regardless because I love them, but why nerf them so hard? 2% crit damage is worthless.

[u/Rahavic_Jr]

RIP wep specialization

Guess it’s cool I can try some other options as a human rogue now. Not mad at it.

[u/Zezpz → u/Rahavic_Jr]

As a warlock I can finally use a stave and not stress about loosing the 2% crit buff 🥲

[u/Budget-Ocelots → u/Rahavic_Jr]

Great change. It was so annoying people only went swords all the way to Naxx.

[u/Individual-Level9308 → u/Budget-Ocelots]

Weapons felt so damn rare in 2019, viskag ony axe, crul, armament. Aqr, hatchet, cts, and kt weapons like we only had 1 of those drop during some raid tiers.

[u/bugmanslaya]

Paladin got fucking obliterated

[u/raider91J]

The keep calling Touch of the Grave, Touch of Death lol.

Spriest changes look nice

[u/Creative_alternative]

Nerfing dwarf and tauren racials while buffing human and gnome racials was not on my fucking bingo card lmfao

[u/nut_lord → u/Creative_alternative]

LMAO FR I FEEL LIKE I'M TAKING CRAZY PILLS

[u/The_Dudeeeeee → u/Creative_alternative]

Tauren got a huge buff though. 90 seconds on war stomp is wild.

[u/MizterJawsh]

Battle shout raid buff. We did it, we actually bring a raid buff now lol.

[u/Proxnite → u/MizterJawsh]

Jokes on you, I'll still forget to recast it when it falls off mid boss.

[u/MourningsOwn]

Ele Shaman -

• Nerfed Fire Nova damage and scaling.

• We lost 3% crit on lightning bolt and Chain Lightning

• We got earlier Lava Burst, Elemental Mastery returned, and 9 second duration increased on flameshock in return for those nerfs.

Chain lightning is still grief as a spell to cast, the damage was reduced by 75% originally.

Idk, I'm happy we got some changes, but it's still a shit spec. None of this helps the leveling experience, and our favorite ability chain lightning is still not worth casting.

Shame

[u/Pale-Supermarket3217 → u/MourningsOwn]

You forgot water shield proccing off damaging crits, which means it’s now essential for raiding.

[u/TotallyRadTV → u/MourningsOwn]

Was such an insanely fun PvP class in Vanilla... so sad to see it completely neutered.

[u/Toomanyquestionszs → u/MourningsOwn]

idk if you can say elemental mastery returned. its nothing close to what is was before. tbh it seems like absolute garbage.

'Elemental Mastery: This talent has returned as the new 31-point gold medal talent. Reduces the cast time of Lightning Bolt and Lava Burst by 0.5 seconds and removes the cooldown from Chain Lightning for 15 seconds. 3-minute CD. Lava Burst is pre-requisite.'

They did reduce chain lightning mana cost by 35% which is nice but its still gonna cost a ton of mana. not only that due to the horrible spell coefficient its still gonna do less then a basic lightning bolt on single target. I guess it will be op in the very few scenarios when there are 3 enemies tightly packed together. Idk if it will be worth draining ur mana bar over. maybe im wrong and it will be good but its definitely not the old elemental mastery. there is 0 single target burst in this new flavour

[u/Ravarix → u/Toomanyquestionszs]

15s of .5s off LBs is a better PvE burst CD than old EM.

[u/mistergosh → u/Toomanyquestionszs]

It ain’t great, but during those 15 seconds you can UNLIMITED POWER a small group of enemies, and that always feels hype. Somewhat Limited Power

[u/Mescman → u/Toomanyquestionszs]

Wasn't old EM 100% crit for your next spell. For one spell.

Sure it must have felt good to get a guaranteed crit, but PvE wise the new one is so much better that I'm not sure if people are trolling.

[u/cjmw]

Not listed but combined bags and autosort works again.

[u/LiveToThink]

Tauren lose the 1% hit for a mini meta gem. Would've really liked to see how that lower hit cap would've opened up gearing options at max.

[u/SirSaltie → u/LiveToThink]

It hurts man. 1% hit was unique and far from OP, no idea why they took it from us.

[u/5aetan]

Completely new to WoW here, was the option to transmog weapons onto your back a bug?
I saw it was removed in last week's patch and it fucking sucks cuz that shit was awesome, and I see nothing about it being added back in here

[u/discus_notathrowaway]

Not mentioned: Warlock pet health is reduced a lot (nearly 50%).

[u/badfish12]

Wtf undead touch of the grave nerf seems huge. 25 second cooldown seems excessive?

[u/misterrpg → u/badfish12]

It's next to useless now.

[u/Boxofcookies1001 → u/badfish12]

Undead got cooked

[u/Illustrious-Drink368 → u/badfish12]

Just straight up nerfed because of popularity.

[u/CookyKindred → u/badfish12]

Idk why it got hit so hard - At this point just trade it for the Human racial at least that makes sense given they are all dead humans.

[u/Neat-Spirit-6611 → u/CookyKindred]

I wish they did this.

[u/MyNameIsUggggh]

This is a crazy amount of changes, bold.

[u/munkin]

2% crit damage/healing is so boring and sad. Big nerf to raiding cows unless hit rains from everywhere. You need a LOT of crit to make this new racial better than 1% hit, over 40%? With no world buffs this wont be as easy to stack crit.

For non raiding the war stomp cd is pretty great for pvp and 5mans. Mount speed is nice qol, no more crack cows is kinda sad because it made me laugh.

[u/Crunchybunch00]

Man turning Blessing of Salvation into a non Blessing is actually so great.

Raidwide buffs and reverting the change that made Windfury and Grace of Air mutually exclusive, sooooooooooooo good.

Splitting Feral/Boomkin aura into melee/caster crit again means there is a reason to bring boomy.

Letting ferals keep cat energy while in bear form with Furor, finally.

Tauren racials getting juicier. But no more A-D spam to get stacks.

Absolutely loving these changes

[u/Moglorosh → u/Crunchybunch00]

I like the plainsrunning change but I'd rather have the hit than crit damage

[u/Mminas → u/Crunchybunch00]

Taurens now once again have PvE racials that are complete shit.

[u/Mankriks_Mistress]

In the next patch for ret paladins:

Champion of the Light now increases your spell damage by 0/0/0% of your Intellect (was 10/20/30%).

[u/lookzlike]

Holy fucking shit as enhance dwarf..what are we doing man. Mage got a new spell.

[u/Lil_Dirtbag → u/lookzlike]

Yeah everyone was asking for dwarf buffs but instead they nerfed dwarf and tauren who didnt need nerfs either. I understand removing the weapon specializations due to their restrictions, but what they chose to replace it with is lame af.

And now fire nova is turbonerfed and we still havent gotten the buffs they said theyd give enhancement after removing 100% spell crit dmg from it.

[u/Beiben → u/lookzlike]

I can tell you what you aren't doing: Getting a raidspot

[u/retrocyclops → u/lookzlike]

Bro I’ve been debating whether to run Enhance Shammy or Ret Pally at launch. Both Dwarf. This patch is such a massive L.

[u/CycleOfBans]

bless you for putting a link up right away. i think anyone who posts about the patch notes without linking them deserves to get an infected hangnail on their index finger

[u/Lake_Placid2319]

we’ve given mages an entire new spell because of downrsnking nerf - the other classes that benefited from downranking however need to stfu before you get nerfed again thx

[u/khronics134]

How did weaker races get nerfs but humans got buffed? Insanity.

[u/Miserable_Alfalfa_52]

These guys needed a 1-60 beta bro.

[u/Mminas → u/Miserable_Alfalfa_52]

They're getting one on November 4th.

[u/devok1 → u/Mminas]

facts

[u/MoskiNX]

Sad shaman noises

[u/lowrespudgeon]

I'm glad they added back the stat increases showing up when you level. It's part of the experience to see those stat bumps when you ding.

[u/Pkock]

Don't really like this unless I'm misunderstanding.

Summon Hawk will now correctly cause the Hawk to spawn at the target the spell was cast on.

I visually liked seeing them launch, which made them more like a falcon being launched from a glove and made the initial impact damage make sense.

If they just spawn around people it's a little cheesey.

[u/nebulous-nautilus]

Finally, huge rogue changes 🙏

[u/--Pariah]

Furor now allows the player to retain the Energy they had when they were last in Cat Form even if they go into Bear or Dire Bear Form.

And just like that feral's back on the menu.

Nice

[u/Masterwork_Core]

Auto Shot now requires you to stand still for 0.5 seconds before shooting, matching early versions of World of Warcraft.

Developers’ notes: Your character will still fire Auto Shot while casting spells like Aimed Shot or Sniper Shot.

Does that mean we go back to the whole delay before firing again like in actual classic? or is that something else?

[u/Metalheadzaid → u/Masterwork_Core]

Yes, it was a bug in the first place for wands/auto shot to let you basically move while doing it.

[u/No_Variation_1686 → u/Masterwork_Core]

Yes that is my understanding of the changes. Wands and autoshot have a delay before going off. You must stand still for 0.5 seconds.

[u/The-Fictionist → u/Masterwork_Core]

In like week 1 of beta this was clearly stated as a bug that would be fixed

[u/FlattedFifth]

GOD DAMN IT MY TAUREN

[u/SirSaltie → u/FlattedFifth]

For no reason too. Meanwhile humans got 2% crit chance lol. Help it make sense.

[u/chifeke]

Chain lightning still not fixed

[u/Banananonymity → u/chifeke]

Nope, but at least the button you won’t press costs less mana!

[u/beavbeav → u/chifeke]

Honestly, are they blind or don't care about player feedback?

Everyone sharing feedback about elemental wants Chain Lightning to be a big hitting spell, not this weak cleaving noodle it currently is.

Devs get it together, bring the old CL back. Base the spec around this spell. We want lightning, not fire.

[u/The-Fictionist]

wtf is the new frost mage spell? Lol. Is it just “sorry. Have downranking back but it’s not really downranking?”

[u/Flog_loom → u/The-Fictionist]

With higher mana cost, but yes.

[u/Dinomight3 → u/The-Fictionist]

It’s just like power shifting and seal twisting. Emergent gameplay that was unintuitive to new players

[u/Relative-Sky2139]

rogue completely ignored again

[u/Realistic_Homer → u/Relative-Sky2139]

Still in stealth

[u/Mook7]

Love the Nelf 2% move speed racial stacking now. It was gonna be a dead racial as soon as I got my boots enchanted.

[u/VerbAdjectiveNoun]

SPRIESTS GET THEIR MANA BATTERYNESS BACK

[u/Kalecraft]

Did the devs forget that rogue is a class or are they just done working on them or something?

[u/door_of_doom → u/Kalecraft]

I feel like Rogue is basically being treated as the baseline they are trying to get all the other specs to, without really addressing any of the problems with the baseline

[u/Seinnajkcuf]

Am i dumb or did they just make enhancement worse, didn't fix any of the mana issues for the class as a whole, and remove shaman raid necessity by making totems raid wide? Who at blizzard hates shaman so much?

[u/ogzogz]

No comments about pet attack speed scaling?

Is it not a bug?

[u/Cosimo12 → u/ogzogz]

Im shocked they havent addressed this yet. Some pets doing double the damage of others is ridiculous tbh.

[u/ObiWanIsMyDog]

Mages walking into the patch notes asking all the other classes how their buffs are:

https://giphy.com/gifs/137TKgM3d2XQjK

[u/Neidrah]

"Read Leyline: Now castable while moving. Minimum duration increased to 30 seconds (was 20 seconds)."

Nope, it was 15sec

[u/Jinjetsu]

That undead nerf is wild. From 1 to 25, huh.

[u/randomguy301048 → u/Jinjetsu]

Im really confused by these patch notes. Is the undead racial touch of the grave or touch of the dead?

[u/misterrpg → u/Jinjetsu]

Useless racial now. lol

[u/Dtoppy]

This is random, but the extra bright fog on lower shadow settings was killing me haha. I felt like I was going blind every time I walked into the Dwarven District at sunset. Glad they fixed that.

[u/ETCswawret]

lol holy Paladin is fucked

[u/Randvek → u/ETCswawret]

Yeah, it's been looking that way all beta long. There was a lot of hope that they'd do something good with the Holy tree but all they did was nerf Shockadin a bit and left healing untouched. Worst healer right now and it's not even close.

[u/Lorenzeo]

40% uptime on a 25% heal reduction and 33% uptime on 30% cast speed reduction for pet abilities is still pretty good. Glad they tuned it back without completely gutting it

[u/ItsmejimmyC]

Rogues as usual get nothing.

[u/papaya_pat → u/ItsmejimmyC]

With leader of the pack and totems going raid wide, we indirectly get more raid spots.

[u/Dinomight3 → u/papaya_pat]

Battle shout too!

[u/mrrogers911 → u/ItsmejimmyC]

Yeah all that scrolling to see they fixed a sap bug..

[u/Trappramlaren → u/ItsmejimmyC]

Feels like Retail

[u/-WhateverDude]

"Added ‘Auto Attack/Auto Shot’ setting. If enabled, Hunters will automatically switch between auto attack and auto shot. This is now also supported for gamepad"

fuckin finally

[u/Nozzledyou98]

So is the Tauren racial crit bad now ??

[u/StrawberryWeekly342 → u/Nozzledyou98]

1% hit was really good. 2% crit damage is terrible. With a 30% crit rate, 2% crit damage is only 0.6% of your overall DPS increase. It'll be better on some classes than others, but overall very bad.

[u/casmilu → u/Nozzledyou98]

Extremely

[u/SirSaltie → u/Nozzledyou98]

Extremely.

[u/brnkse]

We really need a very big streamer who plays Shaman. Mage streamers cried their way to a new spell which is basically a R1 frostbolt.

At this point nobody will play Enh Shammy. We are stuck between dps and tank talents but we cant do both efficiently. A Xaryu like Shaman streamer would really help a lot to get the spec fixed.

[u/shamonemon]

Kinda glad no more being locked into a racial weapon specialization

[u/IgniteMyJoint420]

Love the rogue changes /s

[u/pmgbro]

Undead change is so incredibly bad

[u/Kuldor → u/pmgbro]

Will of the forsaken massively nerfed in forever.

Touch of the grave useless now.

Where are the forsaken combat racials? It has none lmao.

[u/contains_language → u/pmgbro]

Yeah 25s internal cooldown? Seems basically completely useless unless I am missing something

[u/SandwichChance731]

The mage cabal wins again!

[u/rufrtho]

Mage

Frost Blast: This new spell is learned at level 24. It deals damage and slows the target's movement by 40%. It has a 1.5 second cast time, and is affected by all talents that affect Frostbolt.

are these devs stoned

edit:

Ice Lance damage against Frozen targets changed to a 200% increase (Was 300%)

I can't dude they really did interpret "triple damage" as a 300% increase

[u/nebulous-nautilus → u/rufrtho]

The mage council strikes again

[u/Celestrael → u/rufrtho]

My Skyborne Arcane Mage is eating good on these notes. No crumbs.

[u/Lake_Placid2319 → u/rufrtho]

don’t forget that frost armor wasn’t proccing fingers lmao we might’ve just got buffed boys

[u/Zealousideal_Bag_819 → u/rufrtho]

Why ?

[u/alphabet_american]

Is the dwarf change a typo? Why 2% crit damage when everyone else gets 2% crit?

[u/Mineskri → u/alphabet_american]

Tauren got it too. It's the same racial stat buff both races have in retail.

[u/misterrpg → u/Mineskri]

It really is so hilarious that they just gave us retail racials, like they couldn't come up with anything on their own lol

[u/mpire → u/misterrpg]

I didn't even think there was anything wrong with the 1% hit...

[u/gabo2007 → u/alphabet_american]

But you get an extra stack of cornbread in every chest!

[u/EtherGorilla]

On the non balancing side I’m shocked they haven’t done anything to fix the hundreds of broken quest objects around the world while questing. Moonglade has been shut down for two days because no one is able to loot the relic to get cat form. Are people just like supposed to wait for server resets and hope the item isn’t bricked? I pray they fix stuff like this before launch.

[u/Kozimix → u/EtherGorilla]

I thought they fixed that a couple weeks ago. I certainly had no issue getting my cat form

[u/bad_bad_data → u/EtherGorilla]

It was like that in classic and they had to hotfix it. One person can grief every druid on that layer.

[u/Beltox2pointO]

Sadly I didn't see a fix for bags filling from the bottom :(

Hopefully the name plate fixes allow me to see target of target properly, instead of it just showing my name as the last NPC I clicked on.

[u/BronRugby]

Gut horde races whilst mega buff humans the already op and most played race. This makes no sense

[u/Zezpz]

What’s the difference between touch of the grave and touch of the dead?

[u/chifeke]

Tauren actually op now ? Stomp on a 90sec cd

[u/Chase_Norton → u/chifeke]

AND druids able to stomp in form - massive buff

[u/MangoROCKN → u/chifeke]

I do wonder about losing the hit to getting 2% increase crit damage seems like a wild nerf

[u/chifeke → u/MangoROCKN]

Yea they couldv left endurance like it was i understand changing the weap crit for other races tho

[u/Mminas → u/chifeke]

They lost their 1% hit racial just so they can get 30s off warstomp...

[u/Hogger18]

Feels crazy that release is 3 weeks away and they’re still making pretty big changes across the board.

[u/Kalthecgos → u/Hogger18]

It's a live game. This won't stop anytime soon.

[u/FenrisPrime → u/Hogger18]

Don’t worry, they’ve got until forever to get it right.

[u/Mt430]

New tutorial experience??

[u/thattawaythrowaway]

That's cool, I didn't really want to play Forsaken anyway.

[u/DinosaurBill → u/thattawaythrowaway]

Actually might have worst racials overall now for pve

[u/LostManufacturer1553 → u/DinosaurBill]

From the best to the worst by far.

[u/plentynuff]

Take away downranking but make new spells to replace what people were using downranking for. Why did we need to change downranking to begin with? Same goes with resource regen and spell scaling. None of this needed changing to begin with. Make it make sense.

[u/Cautious_Condition82 → u/plentynuff]

They want to make the game more intuitive, basically having a new spell do something is more intuitive than having to use a r1 spell. 

[u/Caneofpain → u/Cautious_Condition82]

that actually makes sense

[u/FasFas1600 → u/plentynuff]

It's more new player friendly. Downranking is not very intuitive, while a seperate spell is. Think of it what you will, but i'm certain that's the logic.

[u/AsherNZ]

What the fuck are these nerfs to paladin? Half damage on cons ticks, champ of the light 30% at max rank from 100% like bro we haven't even got to play with int gear or SP in later levels and the playstyle looks DoA

They nerfed Prot's passive threat gen and now are nerfing their mana gen here too.

What is going on?

[u/Boethion → u/AsherNZ]

Meanwhile I guess Mage really needed a rank 1 frostbolt as its own spell for whatever reason, I'm too employed to know why.

[u/Brogies9069 → u/AsherNZ]

Seriously, champion of light made me so excited to play ret in PvP and be able to throw off heals at people. We haven’t even gotten to use this talent and every week it gets more and more nerfed??? How are they deciding what to nerf because they certainly aren’t using any data from the beta servers lol

[u/IGotMeAMazda3 → u/AsherNZ]

we haven't even got to play with int gear or SP in later levels and the playstyle looks DoA

Like you said, we haven't gotten to play with int gear or SP at later levels. So you have no clue whether its dead or not.

[u/ElderberryJunior470 → u/AsherNZ]

Prot basically never went oom on beta. Like, you could press buttons all the time and be full mana. I think they're trying to fine tune that a bit. 

[u/hdpr92]

nerfing Dwarf racials is certainly a choice lmao

Also not rolling shammy any longer sadly. There's 1 resto shammy required for the raid now. I could see the raid wide windfury change coming, but not making it exclusive with grace of air... going to be tough to get a raid spot.

[u/The_Race_Car → u/hdpr92]

Doesn’t the change to Air totem exclusivity make it more likely to bring 2 shammies?

[u/SpecialSauce92]

Leader of the pack now raid wide woot

[u/AngryCrawdad]

This brings joy.

[u/Jokin_0815]

Man going through change logs is really feeling like I am backing 2005 again.

But then looking into the reddit comments bringing me back to 2026 with all that whining about literally everything.