r/Westerns • • 23h ago

Discussion Crapping on a classic: The Westerner

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I've heard it said that Stagecoach is the first modern Western, if that's the case then The Westerner has to be the last pre-modern Western, because it is very much old-timey, plotless, and full of stereotypes making it a difficult watch today. It reminded me of the slog of sitting through John Wayne's many B Movie serials from his Three Mesquiteer days. But it has Coop and Walter Brennan, Chill Wills and Forrest Tucker, directed by William Wyler score by Dimitri Tiomkin! How could it go wrong?

The answer is that it has almost no plot, and extremely muddled characterizations. Characters exist to perform stereotypical tropey actions in stand alone scenes that have no connection to each other, and make no sense except within a framework of the 1930s Western singing Cowboy kind of ethos. It's a movie that can't decide whether Walter Brennan as Judge Roy Bean is a hero or villain, or whether Gary Cooper is a con man scalawag or a noble protector of the Common Man. The movie doesn't know who it's characters are so how could we be clued in on the secret?

Plus, it has very little action punctuated by long stretches of disconnected boredom. I found it to be greatly inferior to any one of the Jimmy Stewart Anthony Mann westerns made a decade later that I watched in the weeks leading up to this.

Most confusing of all is the performance of Walter Brennan. As Judge Roy Bean, he won his third of three best supporting actor Oscars in just 6 years. And each one for playing the exact same character, a character that he would go on to play in every single other movie that he ever made and for many years on television. It's that of a denture-chewing, dagnabbit, trouser-hitching, lovable old chowder-head. It only varies slightly to the degree in which Brennan plays his chowder-head as either mildly or severely mentally challenged. But really his Judge Roy Bean here is exactly the same character as his Stumpy in Rio Bravo.

I'm confused because I can't see how him playing this one character, or essentially playing himself, was worth three Oscars? My only conclusion is that the first time the public saw it in Come and Get it they thought it was real acting, and it struck them as fresh and original. Two more times and they were still enamored of it, but umpteen times more and finally they'd seen through the charade.


r/Westerns • • 12h ago

Tonight's Movie: Hang 'Em High (1968) Clint Eastwood, Inger Stevens, Alan Hale Jr., Dennis Hopper, Bruce Dern

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r/Westerns • • 4h ago

Recommendation Yellow Moon - Western Horror Graphic Novel!

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Hey western fans! My western-horror comic, Yellow Moon, launched on Kickstarter today and has already met it's funding goal! This comic is love letter to the western genre with a horror spin added in. Check it out here:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/octoberpress/yellow-moon-a-western-horror-graphic-novel


r/Westerns • • 5h ago

Discussion Western Character Actor Appreciation: Elisha Cook, Jr.

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Elisha Cook, Jr. was in the acting business a full 23 years before he made his first Western, but what a Western it was and what an impact Cook made in it. I speak, of course, of Shane (1953) and Cook's portrayal of the unadvisedly pugnacious Stonewall Torrey who prods a gunslinging bull called Jack Wilson (Jack Palance) and gets the horns in return.

Directors and producers must have liked what they saw from Cook in his first Western because, from that point until Tom Horn (1980), his final Western, Cook was a steady presence in the genre. Among his other noteworthy Westerns were Thunder over the Plains (1953), Drum Beat (1954), The Lonely Man (1957), Day of the Outlaw (1959), One-Eyed Jacks (1961), The Great Northfield Minnesota Raid (1972), and Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid (1973).

Cook had an interesting on-screen persona. He was a scrawny little guy and was far from handsome, but he had an extremely grave and somber air about him to go with large, inquisitive eyes. There was something vaguely mystical about Cook. And like many historical mystics, Cook was a solitary sort. He was quite literally a mountaintop hermit who periodically descended his lofty perch to make movies. Cook passed away in 1995 at the age of 91.

Hail! Hail! All hail Elisha Cook, Jr.!


r/Westerns • • 7h ago

Classic Picks Cowboy Crooners : Johnny Cash

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Sing along with "The Man in Black" to "Don't Take Your Guns To Town" from the November 20, 1969 broadcast of "The Johnny Cash Show."

A young cowboy named Billy Joe grew restless on the farm

A boy filled with wanderlust who really meant no harm

He changed his clothes and shined his boots

And combed his dark hair down

And his mother cried as he walked out

"Don't take your guns to town, son

Leave your guns at home, Bill

Don't take your guns to town"

He laughed and kissed his mom and said, "Your Billy Joe's a man

I can shoot as quick and straight as anybody can

But I wouldn't shoot without a cause, I'd gun nobody down"

But she cried again as he rode away

"Don't take your guns to town, son

Leave your guns at home, Bill

Don't take your guns to town"

He sang a song as on he rode, his guns hung at his hips

He rode into a cattle town, a smile upon his lips

He stopped and walked into a bar and laid his money down

But his mother's words echoed again

"Don't take your guns to town, son

Leave your guns at home, Bill

Don't take your guns to town"

He drank his first strong liquor then to calm his shaking hand

And tried to tell himself at last he had become a man

A dusty cowpoke at his side began to laugh him down

And he heard again his mother's words

"Don't take your guns to town, son

Leave your guns at home, Bill

Don't take your guns to town"

Filled with rage, then Billy Joe reached for his gun to draw

But the stranger drew his gun and fired before he even saw

As Billy Joe fell to the floor, the crowd all gathered 'round

And wondered at his final words

"Don't take your guns to town, son

Leave your guns at home, Bill

Don't take your guns to town"


r/Westerns • • 19h ago

Memorabilia The Rifleman

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I have always been a fan of The Rifleman. Earrlier this year I got this as a birthday present to myself